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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:51:58 No.132798431 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132799639 >>132799703 >>132799758 >>132799968 >>132800109 >>132800194 >>132801125 >>132801590

Whats your excuse for not following your dream? You do not betray your dream. That is all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:59:53 No.132798640 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132798663 >>132800054

>implying I have a dream

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:00:47 No.132798663 Report Delete

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>>132798640
/thread

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:39:04 No.132799639 Report Delete

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>>132798431
There is no "I" in "team" and he betrayed his team for his dream. Therefore he is pretty mean.
If you disagree go suck on a dick

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:41:27 No.132799692 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800158

It's obvious the torture messed him up to the point of no return, you can't totally blame him for what he did.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:42:00 No.132799703 Report Delete

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>>132798431
I'm too busy watching anime and playing Dota 2.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:44:01 No.132799758 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132799916 >>132799986

>>132798431
Grifith had a harder life than Guts

Prove me wrong

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:49:54 No.132799916 Report Delete

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>>132799758
It is, because guts was raped when he was 6-8 (I don't remember exactly) for a muscled man than probably has a massive polearm between his legs. also maybe I'm wrong and the muscled man got a tiny dick and the old pedo king that raped griffith got a wmd in his pants, but who knows

!Hawk/WYGNE

!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:51:20 No.132799955 Report Delete

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>>132799916
>and the old pedo king that raped griffith
It wasn't rape! It was consensual sex for money.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:51:37 No.132799968 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800007 >>132800019 >>132800205

>>132798431
Reasons why I would not follow my dream to the extent that Griffith did

1 - Getting your ass fucked by fat rich dude to fund your personal army

2 - Having every muscle in your body retarded to the point where you can't do anything

but the absolutely worse part about being Griffith?

3 - Fuck a black woman

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:51:59 No.132799986 Report Delete

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>>132799758
Griffith chose to make his life that way, Guts life was hard because he was adopted by a massive prick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:52:40 No.132800007 Report Delete

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>>132799968
And getting your dick chopped off

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:52:59 No.132800019 Report Delete

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>>132799968
Casca is a moor, not a black chick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:53:03 No.132800022 Report Delete

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>>132799955
True, then that only justifies that Guts had a worse life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:54:13 No.132800054 Report Delete

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>>132798640
I came here to post this, but without the greentext.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:55:09 No.132800077 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800184 >>132800334 >>132802564

>people still thinking Berserk is anything but trash
What's happening is part of a phenomenon I wrote about a couple of years ago when I was asked to comment on Kentaro Miura. I went to an Akihabara anime store and bought and read a copy of the "Golden Age." I suffered a great deal in the process. The writing was dreadful; the art was terrible. As I read, I noticed that every time the main character introduced himself, he told people to tell others that "the black swordsman is coming." I began marking on the back of my volume every time this was repeated. I stopped only after I had marked the volume several dozen times. I was incredulous. Miura's mind is so governed by cliches and dead metaphors that he has no other style of writing.

But when I wrote that on My Anime List, I was denounced. I was told that new anime fans would now read and watch only Berserk, and I was asked whether that wasn't, after all, better than reading nothing at all? If Berserk was what it took to make them pick up anime, wasn't that a good thing?

It is not. "Berserk" will not lead our children on to Masaaki Yuasa's "The Tatami Galaxy" or his "Ping Pong: The Animation" It will not lead them to Satoshi Kon's "Perfect Blue" or Ryūtarō Nakamura's "Serial Experiments Lain" or Hiroshi Nagahama's "Mushishi."

Later I read a lavish, loving review of Berserk by Hiroyuki Imaishi. He wrote something to the effect of, "If these new fans are watching Berserk at 13 or 14, then when they get older they will go on to watch Gurren Lagann." And he was quite right. He was not being ironic. When you watch Berserk, you are, in fact, trained to watch Gurren Lagann.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:56:17 No.132800109 Report Delete

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>>132798431
My dream is to become a spambot so sofisticated that I'm indistinguishable from an actual poster.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:57:54 No.132800158 Report Delete

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>>132799692
He got the torture because he was a stupid, arrogant, overly emotional idiot who couldn't deal with his buttbuddy beating his ass and leaving.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:58:39 No.132800184 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801794 >>132801898

>>132800077
i read berserk AFTER watching gurren lagann so your argument in invalid.

try again kid.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:59:10 No.132800194 Report Delete

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>>132798431
Nigga you betrayed your dream by fucking the princess early. Don't act like you can talk shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:59:31 No.132800200 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800250 >>132800393

>>132800158
>stupid, arrogant, overly emotional idiot
>warranting all that horrible shit

Nah. The king was fucked up.

!Hawk/WYGNE

!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:59:43 No.132800205 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800384 >>132800412

>>132799968
>>132800019
Yeah, Casca isn't black. Just look at her hair and nose.
>>132800022
I'm not sure who had a worse life, honestly. Guts' life in general was surely harsher, but the torture and everything that came with it was way worse than anything Guts ever endured, so it makes up for it.
>>132800158
Whatever you think the reason was for the torture, you can't deny it messed him up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:01:14 No.132800242 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800261 >>132800300 >>132800362 >>132800440

What was so wrong about fucking the princess?
Was it just a rule in the time period or did she claim rape?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:01:32 No.132800250 Report Delete

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>>132800200
Everyone in Berserk is fucked up. Griffith is no exception, but he has no excuse for it being the supposedly amazing perfect being he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:01:54 No.132800261 Report Delete

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>>132800242
Are you really this clueless?
The king's daughter is a bargaining tool and a type of currency.

!Hawk/WYGNE

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!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:03:25 No.132800300 Report Delete

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>>132800242
It was a rule of the period, but the punishment was really exaggerated for the crime, because the king wanted to take Charlotte's virginity and was jealous of Griffith.

Charlotte never claimed rape, and on the contrary always defended Griffith.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:04:27 No.132800334 Report Delete

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>>132800077
The writings overrated sure, but it's only trash by that guy's standards because he's a pretentious faggot, some of it's clichéd and the comedy falls flat, but he creates a cool atmosphere and some interesting characters. Also if he read the golden age then there shouldn't have been any mention of the black swordsman, so what the fuck is he talking about?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:05:23 No.132800362 Report Delete

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>>132800242

Because the king wanted to fuck her

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:06:08 No.132800384 Report Delete

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>>132800205
Including the eclipse, you cannot possibly think that Griffith had it worse than Guts. As for how the torture fucked him up, sure. Every psychopath had a life leading to them being one - but it isn't a defense against them being one in the first place. Griffith is an insane megalomaniac who thinks he's capable of being a messiah, and he let his friends die because he was either tricked or genuinely believed the godhand, making him either insane or stupid.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:06:28 No.132800393 Report Delete

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>>132800200
Griffith went out of his way to keep provoking him, if he had tried putting on the charm instead of calling out the king when he first got arrested he might have been able to get away with it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:07:09 No.132800412 Report Delete

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>>132800205
Well he becames a God Hand and rapes Casca after the torture so I don't know, maybe it's worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:07:58 No.132800440 Report Delete

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>>132800242
Aside from the fact that the king was obviously a pedo it should be fucking obvious why taking a princesses virginity was considered bad.

!Hawk/WYGNE

!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:12:27 No.132800557 Report Delete

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>>132800384
>Including the eclipse, you cannot possibly think that Griffith had it worse than Guts.
The Eclipse really sucked, but it only lasted a few minutes. The torture lasted for a year.

>Every psychopath had a life leading to them being one
I studied criminology and I can tell you this isn't true. Some people are just born psychopathic. And by the way, pre-Eclipse Griffith isn't one. He expressed too much remorse and compassion to be one.

>Griffith is an insane megalomaniac who thinks he's capable of being a messiah
He never said he wanted to be a messiah. He just said he wanted his own kingdom, which he got pretty close to.

>and he let his friends die because he was either tricked or genuinely believed the godhand, making him either insane or stupid.
He was tricked, but that doesn't mean he's insane or stupid. He just had a moment of weakness because of the overwhelming circumstances he was in.
>>132800440
The king wasn't a pedo. Charlotte was 16.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:14:41 No.132800613 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800630

>>132800557
Ephebophile, whatever, she had no ass and that makes him a pedo in my book.

!Hawk/WYGNE

!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:15:27 No.132800630 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800705

>>132800613
>she had no ass and that makes him a pedo in my book.
You're basically a caveman.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:18:29 No.132800705 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801031

>>132800630
So you're short AND you have no ass, what a catch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:22:59 No.132800833 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132800873 >>132801031

>>132800557
>lasted a year
So? Everyone you know being murdered (indirectly) by your best friend is somehow insignificant because it only took however many minutes? Compared to torture that he should have known was coming when he fucked the princess, he's smart enough to know that.

>this isn't true.
Ok. I'm using psychopath as a convenient way of saying that Griffith is crazy, insane, wicked, evil, whatever you want. He got all of his previous friends killed to get his own kingdom. He had a life leading to him becoming a person like that, but it doesn't change the fact that he is that kind of person.

>never said
Actions, words, etc. Everyone believes him to be one, and he's using that.

>He just had a moment of weakness
He just had a moment of trying and mostly succeeding to kill every comrade he had because he wanted a kingdom. What an unbelievably selfish, disgusting choice.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:24:13 No.132800873 Report Delete

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>>132800833
>>132800557
To clarify, Griffith's torture wasn't insignificant or warranted, but it was avoidable by his own hand.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:27:20 No.132800960 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801060 >>132801990

If Griffith didn´t rape Casca, you all, and I mean it, you all would have been sucking his dick and utter "didnt do nuthing wrong". Disagree?

!Hawk/WYGNE

!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:29:33 No.132801031 Report Delete

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>>132800705
There is nothing unattractive about being short.
>>132800833
>Everyone you know being murdered (indirectly) by your best friend is somehow insignificant because it only took however many minutes?
I'm NOT saying it was insignificant. It was horrible... but less than being torture for an entire year to the point of being permanently crippled.

>Compared to torture that he should have known was coming when he fucked the princess
He couldn't just guess he would be caught.

>Griffith is crazy, insane, wicked, evil, whatever you want.
He isn't any of that.

>He got all of his previous friends killed to get his own kingdom. He had a life leading to him becoming a person like that, but it doesn't change the fact that he is that kind of person.
It was because of the circumstances. A healthy Griffith would have never sacrificed anyone on purpose like that. We know this because he went as far as to whore himself so less of his men would die.

>Actions, words, etc. Everyone believes him to be one, and he's using that.
That's a different case. You're talking about post-Eclipse Griffith, who has little to do with the old one, since using a behelit changes your personality drastically.

>He just had a moment of trying and mostly succeeding to kill every comrade he had because he wanted a kingdom. What an unbelievably selfish, disgusting choice.
See everything that I explained above.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:30:34 No.132801060 Report Delete

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>>132800960
It was never about the rape. He hurt Guts' feelings.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:31:35 No.132801100 Report Delete

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Keep telling yourself that.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:32:19 No.132801125 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801286

>>132798431
There isn't any dragons so I can never become a dragon slayer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:37:30 No.132801286 Report Delete

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>>132801125
You can be a human flayer

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:38:59 No.132801329 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801351 >>132801697

>>132800557
>The king wasn't a pedo. Charlotte was 16.
Charlotte was king's daughter, right? Did he fuck her?

!Hawk/WYGNE

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!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:39:47 No.132801351 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801493 >>132802416

>>132801329
Yes, his daughter. He tried to fuck her, but she rejected him.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:44:57 No.132801493 Report Delete

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>>132801351
They should teach this move to every japanese women

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:49:16 No.132801590 Report Delete

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>>132798431
I'm not a homosexual that betrays my friends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:52:47 No.132801697 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801718

>>132801329
So Griffith took her virginity when she was 14?

!Hawk/WYGNE

!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:53:34 No.132801718 Report Delete

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>>132801697
No, 16.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:56:14 No.132801794 Report Delete

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>>132800184
>>132800334

That guy is posting something written by a literary critic named Harold Bloom while swapping around some words. It might as well be copypasta.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:57:48 No.132801849 Report Delete

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I've never had an ambition in my life. I just want to live comfortably and see beautiful things.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:57:54 No.132801853 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132801990

>>132801794
What was it originally about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:59:21 No.132801898 Report Delete

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>>132800184
JAV girl or gravure idol?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:03:16 No.132801990 Report Delete

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>>132800960

He still murdered all of their mutual friends, save Rickard, who was lucky enough not to be around.

>>132801853

Kids reading Harry Potter, being lead on to read Stephen King instead of canonical classics.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:05:03 No.132802029 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132802073 >>132802293

>you will never get the comfy story of Griffith working his way up to becoming king while Guts goes on a journey to find himself

Damn it Miura

!Hawk/WYGNE

!Hawk/WYGNE Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:06:34 No.132802073 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>132804067

>>132802029
I honestly think it would have made for a better story, though we would unfortunately lose the Conviction arc.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:06:37 No.132802076 Report Delete

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Japanese version of Conan is more realistic. But it makes me more angry.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:13:54 No.132802293 Report Delete

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>>132802029
Sounds like what you want is Legend of the Legendary Heroes, got a lot of Berserk feel, just no dark fantasy with rape. Also no season 2, just like Berserk.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:18:03 No.132802416 Report Delete

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>>132801351

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:24:25 No.132802564 Report Delete

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>>132800077
>Mushishi
fucking hipster

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:15:09 No.132804067 Report Delete

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>>132802073
Agreed, Conviction is actually my second favourite after Golden Age.

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