>>137647I'm not him but I think you're missing the point of the original argument. If futa is gay because theres a penis, it can't possibly be 'gayer' than if there's a man instead. Pic related. This is a 'straight' picture. Man ass, masculine body taking up most of the shot, tits not visible, etc. If the dudes were replaced by futa, some people would literally be saying "wow, this is gay!".
Even in projecting, the main factor there is still the dick. If the dude didn't have a dick theres really nothing to project. You aren't going to insert as mr.dick-less dude, so theres still a focus on the penis. and according to straight logic, that's gay bro, I'm sorry.
Shit logic aside, you can enjoy something and be aroused through the actions happening with the characters. People do it all the time. You don't have to insert.
I'm not saying futa is straight, but I'm saying in scenarios with a dude, you can't argue its somehow gayer if the dude is replaced with a futa. Yes, straight-sex by definition involves a man and woman, but this argument is based on sexuality, and unless you're a female, futa on female sex couldn't possibly be any more homosexual than male on female.
Either way, this doesn't have much to do with futa on futa or solo futa, which is what most of the kids are crying about. Essentially, all that can be said is that it's not straight, but it clearly isn't gay. Ignoring all the feminine features and calling it gay is just retarded. Unless you think a penis alone makes it gay, in which case you probably don't know what gay means.