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Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 01:55:07 No.744963 View Reply Report Delete

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Historical European Martial Arts Thread
Please keep it kind and on topic. Also no SCA/Reenactment please.

Essential Information:

http://www.communitywalk.com/user/view/81443
https://www.zeemaps.com/map?group=619536
http://hemaalliance.com/?page_id=686
http://wiktenauer.com/wiki/Main_Page
http://www.hroarr.com/
http://www.middleages.hu/english/martialarts/treatise_database.php

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:06:04 No.749360 Report Delete

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>>749353
>It's nearly impossible to block this with a dagger,
Your best bet is the fiddlebow to stop the blow, then close in fast, at least according to Hugo Wittenwiler. It does work in hard drilling mode, but you for sure still won't like the odds.

>>748238
>tfw you know deep inside that Geman longsword is superior to Italian longsword.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:17:56 No.749363 Report Delete

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>>749356

>tips fedora

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:48:34 No.749371 Report Delete

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>>749021
>>749024
>>749027
>>749036
>>749050
>>749052
>>749059
>>749221
>>749353
Thanks guys, but most prolly I'm the outskilled spear guy.
I'm going to have a fight with a skilled swordsman so I wanted to know what he may use to beat me.
Obviously I'm already winning since, well, spear.
How do I not let him win?
Making distance? Fast thrusts? Good footwork?
All of it together?
How much will he be playing mind games with me?
How would YOU take out an average level spearman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:55:52 No.749373 Report Delete

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>>749371
Be careful rather than aggressive, retain a good grip on your spear, and don't jeopardize your range advantage by going in too deep.
Also don't hold your spear too far out; as long as the swordsman can't bind he's not safe.
Do attack freely, but from far away, and *stay* far away. If he can't get to you with one step, you're fairly safe.

Keep him on his toes without letting him get past your weapon's tip.

Also don't forget that you can and should swing, when appropriate.

At least that's what I recall from our spear training, but that was a while ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 06:00:41 No.749374 Report Delete

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>>749373
Should I feint much?
Cause I usually do that a lot and when they expose a body part I quickly go there.
I almost always win this way, because I'm quite fast with thrusts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 06:05:13 No.749377 Report Delete

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>>749374
If it works for you, why not?

You really should try it on someone else first.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 06:33:33 No.749382 Report Delete

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>>749371
Mind your distance, you got the range advantage and can only be beaten when the other guy closes in, so stay mobile.
Use strikes too, not only thrusts. You got the leverage. Strike for legs etc. that hard to parry with one handed weapons.

>How much will he be playing mind games with me?
Depends on the fencer, some play a lot, some don't.

>How would YOU take out an average level spearman?
Lure himinto attacking, best to present a Blosse and make sure you got a little leverage with the distance, catch that one attack and close the distance as fast as I can, meanwhile block his weapon with my off hand, and go for the kill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 10:27:45 No.749415 Report Delete

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>>749371
>>749373
Also, if he does get inside your effective reach, remember you can move your grip and your spear has two ends, even if the other one isn't pointy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 07:44:18 No.749748 Report Delete

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>>749353
>Sorry for that stupid question, but what is this glove-like thing at your picture?
A duelling gauntlet most likely.
Apparently the Irish were known for using it.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 06:58:34 No.750104 Report Delete

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Can /asp/ identify this sword?
Also Any swedish HEMA bros missing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 10:25:51 No.750144 Report Delete

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>>750104
>Can /asp/ identify this sword?
Gonna need a profile pic for that.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:29:34 No.750335 Report Delete

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>>750144
From a thread on /pol/

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:11:11 No.751058 Report Delete

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Any review on the PBT hema jacket?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:57:15 No.751191 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>751192

check out this documentary
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmTi-NGQNh8

thanks for the link markus

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:59:02 No.751192 Report Delete

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>>751191
Alright, really, here too?
Can anyone confirm that this thing is worth spending 90 minutes on?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:34:15 No.752469 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>752474 >>752643 >>753344

>>751192
>Unfit Anglosphere Nerds in a Circle Jerk: The Film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:54:07 No.752474 Report Delete

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>>751192
>>752469
I thought it quite interesting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:13:05 No.752478 Report Delete

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>>751192
well made movie that to me as german presents a nice few into the hema sphere. to me, it also draws a good picture of the community. that's the kind of movie i'd show to people if they ask me what i do for a hobby

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:51:38 No.752482 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>752643 >>753640

Tasmania?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 15:56:42 No.752643 Report Delete

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>>752482
Hobart lists a club on the HEMAA Club Finder. But it could be dead and there's no contact information. However there are names listed.
>>751192
It's really good. I thought it was worth all my time.
>>752469
>angry German nerd gets mad and posts nothing in the community
Dem dere Anglosphere! Monopolizing the HEMA videos!
What? Me actually produce content and share it? Fuck that! I don't want to get laughed at by Brits!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:40:22 No.753214 Report Delete

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>>752643
what is it with you and germany? any issues you want to talk about?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:11:34 No.753270 Report Delete

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>>746814
I just use some old cargo pants. Only thing you need is enough room to move around in without excess fabric getting in the way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:12:59 No.753271 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753284

>>747818
Might want to include some for dagger and wrestling

Silver's also good for general theory too.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:21:01 No.753275 Report Delete

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>>748238
>you don't need a buckler, padawan. This one guard is the only thing you need for sword in one hand

Why Fiore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:26:12 No.753277 Report Delete

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>>751192
If you have anything more than a passing familiarity with HEMA, there's not much you're missing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:39:18 No.753283 Report Delete

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>>750335
it's impossible to identify the sword without better pics

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:41:14 No.753284 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753306 >>753637

>>753271
Silver? The one telling "just use your dagger like it was a buckler"? That Silver?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:32:48 No.753306 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753637

>>753284
I am referring to the four governors and defensive fighting. "use your dagger like it was a buckler" is specific technique, not general theory

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:14:58 No.753344 Report Delete

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>>752469
Polish, dutch, swedish, italian is now anglosphere?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:43:47 No.753570 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753606 >>753639

>>753214
In the last thread, the person who whined about the Anglosphere was a German.
Nothing against German HEMA, but there's one loud idiot among you who needs to step up and make content, or shut up.

As a matter of fact, if we could get more German HEMA guys making more video content, that'd be awesome.
More HEMA content in general would be the bee's knees.
>>753275
Because Fiore's fucking awesome and he'll show you how he killed you super awesome and fucked your girlfriend better than you could.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 06:33:40 No.753606 Report Delete

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>>753570
ah, i see. thx for the clarification

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:40:04 No.753637 Report Delete

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>>753284
>>753306
Using you buckler like your dagger is really quite intuitive relatively speaking, even gripping it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:56:05 No.753639 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753654 >>753661 >>753670 >>753769

>>753570
>if we could get more German HEMA guys making more video content, that'd be awesome.
We do, you don't bother to learn to speak it.
Your loss.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:57:36 No.753640 Report Delete

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>>752482
http://www.stoccata.org/index.php/schools/schools-in-tasmania/hobart

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:13:17 No.753654 Report Delete

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>>753639
The Italians have some pretty sexy stuff too, but they at least subtitle their vids: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psaksDHJq9Q

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:50:08 No.753661 Report Delete

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>>753639
>don't bother

Are you trolling or are you really so stupid you think its a matter of 'not bothering'?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:51:56 No.753670 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753672

>>753639
Und wie wäre es zur Abwechslung, wenn du jetzt auch mal ein paar anständige Videos verlinken würdest? Mit Deutschkenntnissen oder ohne, man kann immer beurteilen, ob die Bewegungen sauber sind oder nicht. Ausserdem gibts hier auch Leute, die Deutsch sprechen und sich gern mal ein Video in Landessprache anschaun würden.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:07:30 No.753672 Report Delete

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>>753670
Zwoter
>weil hat recht und so

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:33:17 No.753700 Report Delete

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>>752643
Hobart is alive and kicking. Good people, I visited them while backpacking/Eurotrashing it up round the world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:00:29 No.753726 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>754234 >>754429

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rlIUwwfCMcg can't wait to see more of this, looks promising

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:55:05 No.753769 Report Delete

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>>753639
Everyone understands video. With something as simple as video, the original image or the folio/page information, one can make a very detailed learning tool that others can use. And that's just the videos about plays.

No one in my country speaks German. It sounds kinda shitty, but HEMA's the only reason for me to learn German. Which I can get around because the sources have English translations. Which diminishes the value of the language. I also live in Canada, so it will be unlikely I will ever be able to afford to step into your country.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:06:34 No.753804 Report Delete

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>>753769

I always thought everybody in Canada has some german anchestors somewhere..?

>mfw speaking german but don't care about HEMA

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:29:43 No.753812 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753836 >>753897

>>753804
Nope. All Brits and Frogs. We had Germans, but we erased their identity in World War One, renamed Berlin to Kitchener, and now people only acknowledge Germans existing during Oktoberfest.
There are also Albertans who claim they have German backgrounds, but Albertans are horribly malformed products of incest and bigotry.
They only stopped castrating the mentally ill and "morons" (a very vague legal term that was abused, and caused some people who are just normal to get castrated) in the 60s. The act that let them legally do it was only repealed in 1972.
But no, we don't have Germans anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:53:37 No.753836 Report Delete

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>>753812
Purging the under-races and the weak. Alberta did Father Germany proud.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:05:32 No.753897 Report Delete

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>>753812
The fuck are you talking about? There's Germans all over BC in my experience. Both coming here before and after WWII. I have greatgrandparents that came before, and grandparents that came after. The reason why you don't really know about them is that they kept mostly to their own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:31:14 No.753931 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>753935

Stay on topic l, no one cares about your ancestry or your shitty country's demographic. If germans wants to appear on english speaking documentaries then they should learn English. "but we do, anon, but you should bother to learn german" great, so it sounds like you have nothing to contribute then. If you don't like the content then make your own documentary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:25:03 No.753935 Report Delete

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>>753931
>so it sounds like you have nothing to contribute then.
That statement sounds a bit stupid when you look at the vast realm of the German school of fencing. It is rather nice if you understand the language of your sources, and Italian and German School have most sources. And yes, I do believe they understand their material better than someone with only 'secondhand' know-how on the topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:58:22 No.754233 Report Delete

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>>753700
>Good people, I visited them while backpacking/Eurotrashing it up round the world.
What were they like, I was thinking of travelling around Australia next year and wanted to hit up some groups along the way.
Also, what's the nature like in Tasmania?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:59:24 No.754234 Report Delete

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>>753726
>Ribbed
HEMA confirmed for n-no homo...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 20:33:51 No.754429 Report Delete

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>>753726
that looks weird. I get what they're going for, but I'm skeptical that it'd actually perform well

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