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Semi noob here, trying to learn a few things. I've started to learn about greenshoes recently, and I'm lost as to whether or not a typical investor is able to make a return on one, if they time their investment well. I know that if an IPO falls/breaks its price, the underwriter will buy back the shares it oversold at the IPO price, driving prices back up (hopefully) to the initial offer price. So if, when the price briefly falls, an investor goes in long right before the price is "fixed" back up to the initial price, does the investor make a return? I assume so, but I'm just confused because if those share never actually existed, they were just oversold, how can a return be made?
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>>939651 I mean, I know the greenshoe isn't actually exercised unless the market price goes above the IPO price, but the shares wouldn't have been oversold without the greenshoe being there in the first place
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bump for interest also I dont really get them either tbh
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>>939916 This
Same faggot is a huge faggot.
How adorable, anon doesnt understand something. There are a thousand ways to ask without samefagging. Well, atleast your not a trip.
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>>939921 Si, es same faggito turn elboardo into el cancero.
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>>939923 i will cuck every single american if you don't build an electric fence guarded by alligators
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>>939926 Im not building shit aside from an observatory on my side of the wall to noscope jumpers.
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guys leave anon alone he's just asking a question
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>>939651 Didn't know shit about them either, thanks for introducing me to the term.
Have learned a bunch since I saw this thread an hour ago.
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>>941168 Samefagging with ids literally means hes not even looking at the screen. Why anyone would legitimately respond knowing hes not even looking, is beyond me
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>>941189 Was having a fucking laugh mate cool your jets
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>>939651 green shoe is an option held by the investment bank to buy more shares from the company (not the market). it is used when the market price goes UP (not down) so that the bank can flip the shares on the market for a profit.
in theory this should increase share supply, cutting market price, but in practice it lets the IPO frenzy continue and drives up price more
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>>941224 since this is a samefag thread you can think of it as a call option on privately held shares of the business that the founders weren't planning to sell in the IPO. the shares do exist tho
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>>941224 I know what a greenshoe is.
I'm asking that given than the underwriter puts an extra 15(ish) percent of the IPO's stocks into the market (without actually having them, as the greenshoe hasn't been executed yet), and given that if the IPO fails, it will "buy back" these shares at the IPO price, can an investor take advantage of the price rise (i.e. by buying long)?
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>>941227 Ohh right.
Ok
that makes sense.
Thanks
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>>941230 No. The market cannot frontfun the investment bank because the bank is frontrunning the market.
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>>942071 >frontfun Right, but if an investor just so happened to by the shares at the right time (when they were at their lowest, before the correction), they could benefit, right?