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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 16:55:48 No.8687091 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8687324 >>8687380 >>8687514 >>8687837 >>8687859 >>8688044 >>8690022 >>8690066

how is there so many "well known" cosplay photographers but most of them are complete shit?

no strobes
no diffusers
one (kit) EF lens

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 17:18:21 No.8687143 Report Delete

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Because most well-known photogs get that way through networking and persistence and not through photo quality. This is true of the photo industry as a whole too, 90% of being a pro has nothing to do with actually taking pictures.

Also, there's such a thing as overkill when it comes to lighting at cons. I used to schlep remotes and softboxes around and eventually backed off to a single on-camera speedlight with a lightsphere or whatever it's called, and 90% of the time it was as much as I needed to make successful photos.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:31:08 No.8687257 Report Delete

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A lot of the East Coast cosplay photographers are fucked without all their strobes and shit. Try talking to some of them in person and you'd be amazed at how many of them think white balance and blown highlights are nothing important.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:15:21 No.8687324 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8687440

>>8687091
you dont need strobes or fancy lighting to take good cosplay photos. check out Beethy sometimes

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:40:07 No.8687380 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8688057

>>8687091
THIS IS NO BULLSHIT THE 4TH WHINY "I HATE PHOTOGRAPHERS" THREAD I'VE SEEN ON THIS SITE THIS WEEK.

KILL YOURSELVES.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:53:38 No.8687410 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8687440

Because no one wants to lug all that shit to a con

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:11:46 No.8687440 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8687598 >>8688068

>>8687324
>Beethy sometimes
>not at cons
infinite time and prep and theyre pretty shit
>muh natural light

>>8687410
cosplayers can carry up to 20lbs of props but photographers cant carry a strobe and a stand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:56:39 No.8687514 Report Delete

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>>8687091
You don't NEED a strobe and diffuser if you know about light.

When I go to conventions, I generally only take my camera, a backup body, my lenses, and a reflector. Shooting outdoors, you don't need more than a speedlight (really, the pop up flash is sufficient).

Plus, if I am just shooting random cosplayers at a convention or whatever, a strobe and diffuser isn't going to make their cosplays look any better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:39:46 No.8687598 Report Delete

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>>8687440
I don't know about other major cons but Katsu doesn't officially allow tripods, light stands or anything that requires being set up on the ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:51:28 No.8687623 Report Delete

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Photographer here. Carrying three strobes, a few lenses, and a few stands is not an issue. What is an issue is restrictions, such as Katsucon where you can not set up a stand.

There are also venue/location restrictions and some places let you take pictures but not flash photography. It's not as crazy on the west coast as it is on the the east coast but there are factors that may just make it slightly harder for a photographer to utilize their equipment without having to pay (a fine or other wise).

An external flash can make a site think you're doing commercial photography. Just to give you an idea on how some locations can be limiting to a photographer's creativity. Some sites may allow flash but require everything to be handheld. Some might have a limit on how many external equipment is allowed.

It's not extremely complicated as I'm trying to put it, but it does sometimes ruin the potential of some shoots and it's not fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:07:09 No.8687837 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8688068

>>8687091
so who are these people, the Cosplay Photographers? I see Martin Wong, MLZ, Acksonl, and the infamouse Richard Bui

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:18:10 No.8687859 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8687878

>>8687091
>Only one female photographer
>was a really good cosplayer, now she is a photographer

Why don't more of you guys step up?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:31:24 No.8687878 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8688030

>>8687859
Presumably because women are smart enough to know that photography is a really shitty career move.
All men think about when they get into photography is how much T&A they'll get to shoot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:16:55 No.8688030 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8688054 >>8688077 >>8689335

>>8687878
tell that to Anna Fischer, Lauen Pihl, Sarah Sugarman, Soulfire, Darhselle, Bunny Tan. All very good photographers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:31:38 No.8688044 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8688064

>>8687091
USE THE OTHER THREADS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:37:38 No.8688054 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689429

>>8688030
Who cares if they're good?
I said "really shitty career move".
How SUCCESSFUL are they?
Even if they can pay their bills, how many photographers are out there struggling to get by in comparison?
Photography is an art. Do you recommend that people become artists? There's a reason why the "starving artist" stereotype exists.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:39:48 No.8688057 Report Delete

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>>8687380
I'm pretty sure it's all the same shitposter taking off their namefag

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:46:19 No.8688064 Report Delete

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>>8688044
what other threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:52:59 No.8688068 Report Delete

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>>8687440
some people like carrying them. some don't. i'm kind of in the middle. for my particular style i like using external lights.

>>8687837
dunno, but it is from 2012 so it could be a bunch of unknowns who stayed unknown. it's cosplay photographers in general and not really The ones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:18:59 No.8688077 Report Delete

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>>8688030
Either you are trolling or you are one of the listed

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:21:42 No.8688378 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689393 >>8689591

I laugh at all the photographers chasing after that costume! Good luck in the real world!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:23:22 No.8689335 Report Delete

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>>8688030
Hi lauren you bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:01:59 No.8689393 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689578 >>8689952

>>8688378

What costume?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:26:15 No.8689429 Report Delete

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>>8688054
You do realize most of the male cosplay photographers don't have photography as their day jobs, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:39:31 No.8689578 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689589

>>8689393
the only person in the photo without a camera

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:54:06 No.8689589 Report Delete

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>>8689578

oh man I didn't realize I thought it was just a photographer group photo and assumed everyone had a camera. Especially since that one girl on the far right is in a costume (albeit very loosely defined costume).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:58:38 No.8689591 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689952

>>8688378
I'm guessing costume was a typo, maybe cosfame?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:52:41 No.8689952 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689966 >>8690018 >>8692203

>>8689393
>>8689591
Sorry!!!! Yeah I meant costume! Stupid autocorrect!

I see so many photographers trying to be famous in the cosplay scene and they're dropping so much cash on fancy equipment and hitting all the cons and its funny because none of that shit will matter in the end. They ain't gonna be famous for real or make fucking money. So many of the new photographers are kids living at home or deadbeat dads who think they'll make money at charging $20-40 a shoot! gimme a fucking break!

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:04:57 No.8689966 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689971

>>8689952

You could easily replace the word "photographers" here with "cosplayers" and the entire paragraph still applies.

People in this hobby (especially the younger crowd) are blinded by the "fame" of Jnigs and Yaya and think that they want to be a "professional cosplayer" when they grow up.

The stigma of anyone being "famous" within our convention community is hilarious. We're all losers dressing up in costume or taking photos of losers dressing up in costume. ANYONE thinking they can make a living off this hobby alone is a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:11:17 No.8689971 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8689982 >>8690010 >>8690018

>>8689966
Not the case. It may be hard now, but I do think there is money in cosplay down the line.

Every character people cosplay comes from a multi-billion dollar media corporation.

If you can't see where the money is you're extremely short sighted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:28:58 No.8689982 Report Delete

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>>8689971
I think you misunderstood me.

I'm talking about the kidos who think that dressing up in cosplay and/or taking a few neat photos at cons is all that it takes to make it to the big time.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:49:25 No.8690004 Report Delete

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You're right, it's a lot of hard work.

But the blanket statement, "ANYONE thinking they can make a living off this hobby alone is a moron." is wrong too.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:57:15 No.8690010 Report Delete

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>>8689971
Don't quit your day job

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:04:39 No.8690018 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8690100 >>8690802

>>8689952
Again with the stupid autocorrect! "COSFAME"

>>8689971
The money is eventually there, but most cosplayers won't know how to get it. At best, they may make a few commissions over the course of a year, but they'll still be realistically undercharging on their own labor alone. The same with photographers and their post processing, at least the ones that do it for real and aren't sliding a few bars right and left for a few seconds.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:06:57 No.8690022 Report Delete

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>>8687091
I always shoot flashless and handheld. It's easier to carry around, I can move quickly, I'm good at holding still, and I can always lighten it up in post-production.

I don't trust photographer with too much gear for no reason - they're often compensating for a lack of skill or talent. The better they get, the more gear they shed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:48:55 No.8690066 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8690264 >>8690813

>>8687091
people I recognize: Al (EBK) front and center. I know no one else. Anyone care to label this or point out other people?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:18:52 No.8690100 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8690268

>>8690018
The reason we just slide a few bars around and use the healing bush on some pimples and that's it is because real post-processing takes a good amount of time. It's reserved for paying customers.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 15:37:10 No.8690264 Report Delete

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>>8690066
Richard Bui is the guy on the right.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 15:42:15 No.8690268 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8690802

>>8690100
I wasn't talking about you then. I was talking about those that do a few seconds of work and then act like they've spent years on perfecting a photo that they are charging for at cons like some of the ones mentioned in the bad photos thread >>8668433

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:32:53 No.8690802 Report Delete

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>>8690268
>>8690018

I mean... it's not even sliding bars anymore. Any photog with lightroom and some real understanding of their software will just use presets. So really we're talking a few clicks of a button.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:44:32 No.8690813 Report Delete

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>>8690066
To the best of my ability and memory

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:05:16 No.8690831 Report Delete

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>>8690813
one of the cool dudes is MLZ

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:26:52 No.8691052 Report Delete

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>>8690813
Whoa, someone else knows Dale other than me?

He is a cool guy, more of the old school photographer, but still a nice guy.

(In before a million people post about how much they hate him)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:08:32 No.8692203 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8692234 >>8692272

>>8689952
Sounds like Jason Laboy (unemployed, but charges for photos even though he manages to get a press badge) and Cosplay with Me (hipster who begs to sleep in everyone's room)

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:37:31 No.8692234 Report Delete

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>>8692203
He got a press badge through that rag of a mag

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:13:16 No.8692272 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8692806

>>8692203
If he does press work with the badge and shoots on the side that's okay. If he just shoots then that's not okay and he shouldn't get a badge

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:40:24 No.8692447 Report Delete

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>>8690813
lol "cool dude"

double lol for the not meepy

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 10:01:09 No.8692806 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>8692817

>>8692272
Hu just does cosplay shoots and then submits them, hoping they get accepted

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 10:12:53 No.8692817 Report Delete

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>>8692806
Nope he represents the mag with a press badge and still charges for shoots with promises of hopefully being in the mag. He should be covering the con and shooting for free since he's press.

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