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Bat Family Power Rankings

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 02:58:20 No.76920013 View Reply Report Delete

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>Reading Batman Eternal
>Batgirl promptly kicks Red Hood's ass
>Red Hood says that she was always better than the other Robin's

The fuck? I always thought Batgirl was the weakest member of the bat family but apparently she's top tier.

Anyone have a decent idea of the Bat family power rankings so I won't be triggered like this again in the future?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 02:59:18 No.76920030 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921270

>Batman
>Batwoman
>Nightwing
>Batgirl
>Who gives a fuck about the others

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:08:58 No.76920137 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920176 >>76920184 >>76920385 >>76920430 >>76920541 >>76936516

>>76920013
>Anyone have a decent idea of the Bat family power rankings so I won't be triggered like this again in the future?
When it comes to fights one on one

Bruce > Cass > Dick > Jason > prepTim > Damian = Tim > Helena > Babs > blonde whore that had an abortion

And no Cassfags, Cass is under bruce, Cass is a better Martial artist, but not a better fighter overall, she and bruce are both Peak human, but bruce has the strenght edge (the same he uses with shiva).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:13:02 No.76920176 Report Delete

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>>76920137
>Bruce greater than Cass
Get fucked. Bruce could never best Shiva.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:14:01 No.76920184 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920211 >>76923226

>>76920137
Cass is above peak human, she's baby meta tier. she makes a game out of dancing around bullets.

Batman is not the best at everything no matter how batgod writers try and make him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:15:11 No.76920198 Report Delete

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>>76920176
He had. twice. And he literally says "i must use my strenght before her skill beats me".

Being a better martial artist does not equal being a better fighter, he was trained by shiva after bane fucked him up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:16:13 No.76920211 Report Delete

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>>76920184
>Cass is above peak human
She isn't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:16:16 No.76920212 Report Delete

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>>76920198
No, he didn't. The first time he beat her, he beat her with Tim, and both of them had gone unconscious at one point or another in the fight. The second time she was mind-controlled by Grodd, so she wasn't exactly at the top of her game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:16:33 No.76920218 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922655

Well aparently Babs is a better fighter than Jason since she wrecked him in Eternal. Granted she was on a hypnotic rage but still...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:18:31 No.76920247 Report Delete

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This shit always changes depending on the author and the situation but Bats is usually always on top. Except for that one time nightwing beat his ass in a fight just cuz it was a night wing comic.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:20:31 No.76920276 Report Delete

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>>76920211
The bitch is Neo.

She was trained to the point of being a character out of a japanese anime, to the point it fucked up her development as a normal human being so she couldn't talk properly or read.
She was the Batfamily muscle, minmaxed in a single area of expertise compared to the all-rounder nature of guys like Batman.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:21:55 No.76920292 Report Delete

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>>76920276
You seriously underplay what peak human means. Peak human means Captain America tier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:23:45 No.76920317 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920372 >>76920600 >>76920647

Captain America is still above batman, especially his stamina which is outright superhuman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:24:09 No.76920327 Report Delete

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>>76920292
When Cass and Bruce fought, Bruce, despite being on rage drugs, ran away, because he was going to fucking lose. He even knew he was going to fight her going into it, so don't give me that 'well he didn't have prep time' bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:24:37 No.76920331 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920385 >>76920397 >>76920403 >>76920430 >>76920541

>>>76920013
it all depends but If you're speaking about a fair fight
Cass > Bruce > Jason > Dick = Barbara > Damian = Tim

But ranking power on comics it's pretty much bull shit.
Sometimes Babs looks like the most intelligent and powerful member of the family, others, she's good only in acrobatics.
Sometimes Jason is the best fighter and sometimes, he barely can keep a fight with damian.
Aaaaaand sometimes Bruce can beat the supposed world greatest martial artist and others batwoman take him down with some bat

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:28:14 No.76920372 Report Delete

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>>76920317
Pretty much.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:28:48 No.76920385 Report Delete

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>>76920331
>>76920137
I've honestly never read a Bat comic where Jason was painted as a good fighter in scope of the Batfamily. The most competent he ever seemed was as a villain in Morrison's stuff, and even then a lot of it was him having situational advantages making him more of a threat and then still losing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:29:43 No.76920397 Report Delete

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>>76920331
>But ranking power on comics it's pretty much bull shit.
We can all go home now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:30:10 No.76920403 Report Delete

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>>76920331
>Sometimes Jason is the best fighter
When writers wank him like in RHaTO.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:30:43 No.76920417 Report Delete

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>>76920385
>I've honestly never read a Bat comic where Jason was painted as a good fighter in scope of the Batfamily.
Neither you will.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:30:55 No.76920419 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920460 >>76920462

>This shit always changes depending on the author and the situation
This. Although it's still kind of a shock seeing Red Mothafucking Hood getting beat by a C-lister like Barbara Gordon after watching Under The Red Hood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:31:26 No.76920430 Report Delete

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>>76920331
>>76920137

you forgot to rank Dyke.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:32:07 No.76920438 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920444

Goddamnit. Why? Barbara's shoulder-candy, why the fuck is she beating him? Is it because he pities her?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:32:57 No.76920444 Report Delete

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>>76920438
Boy hero isn't allowed to hit girl hero.
Noticing lack of female punchable villains for Batman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:33:54 No.76920460 Report Delete

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>>76920419
You mean the movie where he was a pathetic whiner and got his shit pushed in the moment Batman stopped holding back because of MUH GUILT?
The most badass thing he's done in the entire movie is beating some no-name cyborg ninjas

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:34:02 No.76920462 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920598 >>76922966

>>76920419
Babs is wanked out every now and then to try and justify why she was such a good batgirl, despite being just a pair of tits in a bat costume who only became worthwhile after being crippled and becoming Oracle, where she actually had a very useful niche in the superhero community.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:35:12 No.76920479 Report Delete

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>>76920385
He is better than Tim. But Tim with prep time beats everyone since he doesnt really like to fight, he doesnt want to taste himself. His fight with shiva was ñiterally "fuck you i poisoned you"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:37:43 No.76920511 Report Delete

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>>76920479
That would not have worked on Cass. We've seen how little effect poison has on her on several occasions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:38:29 No.76920523 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920571 >>76920582 >>76920604 >>76931448

Cassfags are cancer. Stop over-glorifying not-Miho.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:39:18 No.76920541 Report Delete

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>>76920331
>>76920137
Tim is better than Damian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:40:31 No.76920571 Report Delete

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>>76920523
Batgodfags are cancer. Stop over-glorifying your husbando.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:41:00 No.76920582 Report Delete

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>>76920523
Its not over-glorifying to say she is the best in a battle out of the batfamily, that was her entire gimmick. She was basically retarded outside of ninja shit because everything in her life had been dedicated to this one facet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:41:56 No.76920598 Report Delete

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>>76920462
>>76920462
I miss Orcale, she had good character growth, a strong personality that was reasonably distinct (mostly being stubborn and a bitch but still), and actually overcame a huge life changing event and genuinely seriously lived with the consequences she was dealt.
Hell it was even nice to have a wheelchair bound hero there working to make a difference. I do wonder if the returning her to Batgirl had come later into the n52 when tumblr SJWs were in full swing for every move DC made would they have lambasted them with claims of ableism, or would they pull a double standard because Simone on writing and them wanting Babs in the cowl just because its a female hero they know.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:41:58 No.76920599 Report Delete

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>>76920571

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:42:03 No.76920600 Report Delete

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>>76920317
I'm pretty sure fighting during 28 hours before he was even batman is also superhuman. The ammount of bs feats are there.
>>76920372
The whole point of that fight was that they were so evenly matched anyone could win

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:42:28 No.76920603 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920625 >>76922987

>Babs is wanked out every now and then to try and justify why she was such a good batgirl

This. Never heard of Batgirl being stronger than the Robins before. This feels more like a cheap empowering women moment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:42:32 No.76920604 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920647

>>76920523
Characterfags in general are cancer.
Still, I was amused with "Dick was injured and ambushed, he could defeat Cass if she fought fair!" after B&R Eternal #1.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:42:58 No.76920606 Report Delete

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>>76920600

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:45:29 No.76920625 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920642 >>76920660

>>76920603
Well half the time Jason is made out by writers as being the incompetent Robin who even now never learned how to actually fight and just knows how to scrap. So depending on which Jason Todd she was fighting it's actually not that big of a feat. Now if she'd taken down Dick that'd be different.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:46:50 No.76920642 Report Delete

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>>76920625
She did!
In Simone's Batgirl.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:47:16 No.76920646 Report Delete

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>>76920600
Captain America's body being super resistant to the buildup of fatigue poisons is one of the sideeffects of the super soldier process, thats just a bullshit comic because writers have no concept of scale and thought it would be
>>so badass

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:47:20 No.76920647 Report Delete

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>>76920604
That's not my cass m8. New52 fucked up all the characters.

>>76920317
And Batman is a character that trains in the vacuum of space cuz prep time. Batman has been a mary sue since 1939

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:48:04 No.76920660 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922445

>>76920625
>Robin who even now never learned how to actually fight and just knows how to scrap.
And he never went to train with Wildcat.
For shame, DC.
For shame.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:48:23 No.76920665 Report Delete

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>>76920176
There's more to winning a fight than being the best martial artist. Cassfags I swear...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:49:15 No.76920675 Report Delete

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>>76920665
see>>76920511

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:50:19 No.76920683 Report Delete

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>>76920647
Haha man that's retarded.

Even Manhunter is telling him he's being a dumb faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:50:40 No.76920686 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920698

>>76920642
Well, situational context can mean a lot. I don't want to just give a reactionary "that's fucking bullshit", but it does sound it.
I remember Simone had an issue where Kate showed up and wrecked Babs (as she would), so I'd like to think she didn't just decide to throw character skill out the window when a dick was suddenly involved, but it's just that sadly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:51:23 No.76920694 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921838

Underrated post. Every time I see a hero vs a fem hero the guy is always holding back and only tries to disable her while she kicks the crap out of him lel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:51:44 No.76920698 Report Delete

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>>76920686
>but it's just that sadly.
Meant "it's probably just that sadly"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:55:34 No.76920736 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920750 >>76920805

>>76920675
You just need to use the right poison, Cass is not Bruce, she may had some resistence, but is not that used to poison, fucking Tim was clonning Superboy, i'm pretty sure he can get the right poison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:56:29 No.76920750 Report Delete

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>>76920736
Why is Tim so gay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:58:15 No.76920769 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920792

In Eternal Jason says "None of us Robins were ever as good as Batgirl. We knew it. Drove us all crazy."

So new 52 Batgirl is possibly stronger than Dick.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:00:03 No.76920791 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920805

>>76920675
>>76920511
that isn't true..why would you lie?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:00:10 No.76920792 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920860

>>76920769
None of the robins were as good as some random chick that ran around in canary yellow high heels in battle. Some hardcore shilling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:01:05 No.76920805 Report Delete

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>>76920736
That's kind of the issue. She wasn't prepared against that poison, there's some weird automatic function in her body that causes her to slip into a nap, and then she starts healing really fast.

>>76920791
Yeah, that drug makes you aggressively psychotic or super happy. Unless you're Cass, then you take the aforementioned nap with weird-ass dreams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:06:06 No.76920860 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920897

>>76920792
>Some hardcore shilling.

Nah, it's just new 52 turning Babs into mary sue. She's a redhead that everyone has the hots for, has eidetic memory as well as perfect recall, and took self defense classes which, given how she handles folks like Jason, was apparently for defending herself if she were ever to be mugged by Kalibak or some shit.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:09:09 No.76920897 Report Delete

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>>76920860
And is an absolutely obnoxious bitch to read.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:11:26 No.76920920 Report Delete

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>>76920897
A girl in a wheel chair got into a fight with the writer/artist of Bargirl for saying she missed oracle, the cunt blocked her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:14:16 No.76920945 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76920992

>Self Defense classes
Pfft Jason was trained by Batman and mystical, ninja, warriors from the All Caste. No way does this bitch beat Jason in a fight. I'm calling this fight Bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:14:40 No.76920950 Report Delete

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>>76920920
Ha.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:18:27 No.76920992 Report Delete

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>>76920945
That's kind of the problem with Barbara, she steals the thunder from the other characters. "Oh, we traveled all across the world seeking the best teachers that are alive today, to teach us the mystical ways of X"-Batman and company, Even Cass. "I took Pilates"-Barbara.

Kinda makes Batman and company look like fuckheads.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:21:45 No.76921020 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921033

>That's kind of the problem with Barbara, she steals the thunder from the other characters because she's a girl.
Fixed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:23:21 No.76921033 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921054 >>76921106 >>76921127

>>76921020
No one gives a shit about that Batwoman's a girl, she doesn't steal their thunder, because she went through the same bullshit. Steph doesn't, because she sucks, unless it was after she'd been trained by Cass and Bruce. Cass doesn't, because she's Cass, and what she went through makes them all look like pussies.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:25:15 No.76921046 Report Delete

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>>76920013
>Bruce
>Cass

>powergap

>Everyone else

Also I'm glad Oracle is gone. She was a condescending cunt and was omnipresent in every batbook. Batgirl Barbara keeping to her containment book is fine by me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:26:15 No.76921054 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921083

>>76921033
Steph's been on the suck stick in the new 52 as far as fights go, and she's still undergoing training from both catwomen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:29:22 No.76921083 Report Delete

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>>76921054
Which is fine, she can suck, she's a normal person, without Bat-training, and she's back to building herself up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:29:33 No.76921085 Report Delete

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>>76920013

Batman is the weakest but compensate using tricks and experience
Dick is second best
Jason is either shit because he relies on guns or a super ninja
Damian can kill everyone if he wanted to
Cass is an autistic fighter and her being good is her gimmick other than being autistic and pandering to anime fans
Barbara and Batwoman are the best at everything because they have the female gene

Oh yeah, forgot about Tim but who doesn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:30:30 No.76921097 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921109

Ok point taken. I guess Babs is just given special treatment now to make up for her former paralysis shtick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:31:32 No.76921106 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921121 >>76921164

>>76921033
>I trained in the military this justify me taking down Batman in a fight

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:31:52 No.76921109 Report Delete

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>>76921097
The most retarded thing about this is that for the new 52 she was marketed as having a bit of ptsd that triggers around guns pointed at people, which came up all of once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:33:19 No.76921121 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921140 >>76921196

>>76921106
A big part of what Batman banks on is people being scared of him. If she's not scared of him, she'll handle him better than most people who squares off against. This can surprise him and it has in the past. Hell, it does so every fucking time he fights Joker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:33:22 No.76921122 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921236 >>76921272

>Batman is the weakest
You wot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:33:34 No.76921127 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921133

>>76921033
Well yeah, when you're deliberately written as a woobie Mary Sue you tend to get super duper backstories.

Doesn't make Cass a good character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:34:21 No.76921133 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76943423

>>76921127
>Mary Sue
It doesn't mean 'character I don't like', stop being a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:35:03 No.76921140 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921161

>>76921121
>the guy that defeated Ra's Al Ghul and other expert fighters gets taken down by a woman that trained in the army

But I guess it's okay, otherwise if Batman wins is "LE BATGOD MEME"

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:36:36 No.76921161 Report Delete

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>>76921140
I can see it going either way frankly, Batman has lost to some stupid shit in his time. It's almost like he's the least consistent character in comics or something.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:36:46 No.76921164 Report Delete

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>>76921106
>still being butthurt over those issues
>which you probably didn't read

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:39:36 No.76921190 Report Delete

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>Female
>Military
>Lesbian

Of course she wins and is the best at everything. If not you have three different sections of SJW's raging at you on tumblr.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:40:28 No.76921196 Report Delete

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>>76921121
>trained in the military
>literally top 5 of best martial artists in the world

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:42:02 No.76921222 Report Delete

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>>76921196
Batman's not even in the top ten, so I'm not sure where you get that idea.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:42:07 No.76921225 Report Delete

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>>76920385

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:42:49 No.76921236 Report Delete

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>>76921122
The batkids all had ongoings and hack writers think that raising the power level of a character it's going to make it better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:42:55 No.76921238 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921273

Do people honestly think Kate could take Bruce? Her claim to fame is what, like a year of SpecOps training?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:43:56 No.76921254 Report Delete

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>>76920013
Those are literally the pistols from Halo

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:44:05 No.76921255 Report Delete

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>>76920013

why does he have Halo magnums?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:45:21 No.76921270 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921375

>>76920030
Didn't Batwoman beat the shit out of Batman with a 2x4?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:45:31 No.76921272 Report Delete

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>>76921122
batman is actually the weakest character in general in the batfamily

tim is smarter, better detective
Cass, Damian, Jason are better fighters
Dick stole his nice side and is a better acrobat
etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:45:31 No.76921273 Report Delete

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>>76921238
He's lost to people like that before, for whatever fucking reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:45:35 No.76921274 Report Delete

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>>76921222
Sure faggot, try reading comics. Cass, Shiva, Dragon, Sensei, Bruce, Hawke, and o-sensei are the top seven. Muh nigga tiger, fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:46:52 No.76921302 Report Delete

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>>76921254
>>76921255

They really are. The only difference is the halo pistol's guard covers the entirety of the handle, whereas Jason's just covers the trigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:47:05 No.76921304 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921333

Power levels in comics are stupid. The weakest character can beat the strongest character at any given moment due to plot convenience. /thread

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:47:09 No.76921305 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921375

>>76921255
>Roy, did you mod my guns to look like the Magnum from Halo?
>...Yes.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:48:25 No.76921325 Report Delete

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>>76921274
You're forgetting Deathstroke, Karate Kid, Wonder Woman, Superman, Vandal Savage, and a shitload of others.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:49:02 No.76921330 Report Delete

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>>76920176
Motherfucker, TIM has beaten Shiva.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:49:11 No.76921333 Report Delete

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>>76921304
Except that you can't /thread your own post, I agree.
OMG Squirrel Girl vs Doom!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:49:28 No.76921338 Report Delete

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>>76921325
>Deathstroke got killed by Damian in the fucking animated movie
>no one complains

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:50:36 No.76921351 Report Delete

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>>76921330
With poison, dumbass.

>>76921338
It's a movie, what do you want?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:53:42 No.76921375 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921540

>>76921305
>not modding them to look like Casull and Jackal
Jason sucks even at being an edgelord
>>76921270
That's kind of what makes the whining about Kate beating Batman so stupid.
>treated as a horror-movie monster an entire arc
>even despite all of Batwoman's struggling and preparation to take him down just shrugs it off and keeps coming
>gets sucker-punched with a piece of wood when he drops his guard
>admits that he could've escaped and beaten Kate anyway
>autists on 4chan are butthurt as if Kate beaten Batman with ease
>>76921330
Does beating someone under drugs that pretty much make you a superhuman count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:54:25 No.76921385 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921425 >>76938267

>>76921325
>>76921325
>You're forgetting Deathstroke
Not a martial artist
>Karate Kid
Form the future you idiot.
>Wonder Woman
She is a melee fighter, she is not a martial artists either
>Superman
If you thing Superman is better than fucking batman at fighting this is clearly bait.
>Vandal Savage
Terrible at fighting, both Sensei and Ra's are superior when it comes to martial arts, and Ra's is not that high

If you want to come with meme answers like White canary, Bronze tiger, the circle of six or hell even wildcat do it. But don't pretend to know what you are talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:58:29 No.76921425 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921527

>>76921385
>deathstroke
>not a martial artist
Christ, you say that like there's no ranged martial arts, which is fucking retarded.
>Karate Kid
So? Still DC, still counts, because he's spent a lot of time in the 'now'.
>implying melee fighter is different from martial arts
You don't know what a martial art is. It's not exclusively 'kung fu' jackass. It's an art, that is martial in nature. As in 'for fighting'. Boxing is a martial art, the proper use of a gun is a martial art (even if it's not amazingly well-refined like other martial arts are) archery is a martial art, wrestling is a martial art, because all of these are types of skills aimed at 'fighting better'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:09:46 No.76921527 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921578

>>76921425
Karete kid and Batman one million don't fucking count, as simple as that, Deathstroke without his fucking enchanced stats is well below dick grayson. And don't pretend to be dense, either way, take the powers away from diana and she is not better than Black Canary. And no, Karate Kid doesnt even spend that much time in the present, one fight ended in a draw, it was interrumped but batman could hold on his own when KK started using anti-gravity martial arts, the second fight was a victory for batman, cheating as usual, in both he states that batman is one of the greatest martial artist that had ever lived.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:11:09 No.76921540 Report Delete

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>>76921375
What I hate was how easy Batwoman was able to take down Batgirl, and then also easily take on several of the villains Batgirl had been dealing with that arc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:16:06 No.76921578 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921612

>>76921527
No, because we've seen Diana without her powers, she still kicked seven colors of shit out of Batman. Deathstroke, in his prime, could kick the fuck out of Batman. Also,
>Karate Kid doesn't count.
Fuck off.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:18:15 No.76921595 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76924949

>>76920276

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:19:38 No.76921612 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921626

>>76921578
>ecause we've seen Diana without her powers, she still kicked seven colors of shit out of Batman.
That never happened.
>>76921578
>Deathstroke, in his prime
You mean deathstroke in his series? Yes, that one time.
Karate kid doesnt count since he is not from the present, as simple as that, and i guess you don't even know who Batman one million is. You haven't named a single martial artist that isn't Karate Kid. You probably never read a Richard Dragon comic you stupid casual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:21:00 No.76921626 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921691

>>76921612
>I never read books before 2010.
Get lost.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:27:33 No.76921691 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921716

>>76921626
Admit you didnt even knew sensei existed you filthy pleb.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:28:27 No.76921702 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921109
I thought Babs' trigger was having a gun pointed DIRECTLY AT HER SPINE.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:30:00 No.76921716 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921745

>>76921691
You're going to have to narrow this down some. Do you mean O-Sensei, the man who trained Richard Dragon (among others)? Or some other guy, because there's a bunch of characters that go by 'sensei', thanks to it meaning 'teacher'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:32:29 No.76921745 Report Delete

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>>76921716
Hell, Saitama from One Punch Man is called 'sensei' by Genus and he's a lazy-ass who plays video games when he's not out getting groceries, hanging out with friends, or obliterating evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:34:41 No.76921766 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921109
I remember people on /co/ complaining about that because they didn't want her former trauma mentioned at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:35:09 No.76921770 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921790 >>76922064 >>76922717 >>76923330 >>76931562 >>76931650

>everyone putting Damian so low
In a straight up 1 on 1 he's only below Cass and Bruce

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:36:31 No.76921790 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921825 >>76921886

>>76921770
Of course he is, our little special snowflake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:41:13 No.76921825 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921878 >>76921886

>>76921790
Well yea, that's the entire point.
Damian is Special Little Snowflake the character. Doesn't make it any less true tho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:41:25 No.76921826 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921875

>>76920600
That fight was determined by fan vote.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:42:43 No.76921838 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923020

>>76920694
Jason stats to beat up Cass in B&RE #3

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:45:02 No.76921863 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921878 >>76921885 >>76921944 >>76922479 >>76922736 >>76922906 >>76925812 >>76927394 >>76934501

Is he right, guys?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:45:25 No.76921869 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921951

>>76920211
Cassandra Cain is functionally metahuman.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:46:31 No.76921875 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921904

>>76921826
>That fight was determined by fan vote.
No it wasnt, in that fight Batman says "you know let's stop this shit you don't look like a bad guy let's find a solution". He knows he may win or he may lose but it would take a long long time to find out, so they ignore thair egos and try to fix the situation, you are thinking of Marvel vs DC, where batman drags Captain america into the sewers (outsmart him) and then Batman is shown to have better aim with 3 batrangs than steve with his huge ass shield in a small space, it was probably the less polemic fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:46:50 No.76921878 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921890 >>76921962

>>76921825
Smartest, best at fighting, best at this, best at that. Kill everyone else, leave Damian only.
>>76921863
Of course, he is. Landis is our lord and savior. His tweets are worshipped in dungeons of /co/.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:47:18 No.76921885 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76927471

>>76921863
His ranking is on point, but saying any of them could take Spidey is just dumb.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:47:18 No.76921886 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76921899 >>76922166 >>76931028 >>76931598

>>76921790
>>76921825
>niggas still hating the D-man

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:48:19 No.76921890 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921878
>Smartest
But still extremely naive and butt headed
> best at fighting
Best at killing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:49:21 No.76921899 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922272 >>76922562

>>76921886
Why are they all such manlets compared to Bruce?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:50:03 No.76921904 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921875
Okay yeah, you're right. My bad.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:54:45 No.76921944 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921863
Jason would beat Tim in a fight. Tim is the baby he should be dead last

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:55:17 No.76921951 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922146

>>76921869
Read that again, it pretty much shows what Peak Human means, feats that should be Meta, but with the editorial insisting they are not, from batman in pic related reflecting a bullet, to captain america holding 2 tons, to cassandra running at 100 km/h, or bane breaking steel as if it was made of paper

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:56:34 No.76921962 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922033

>>76921878
He's even more of a special snowflake now in the new 52 given that the adjusted timeline basically states that Damian was a accelerated age baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:05:15 No.76922033 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921962
That's the thing with that character. He's entertaining af but his backstory is some retarded ass shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:08:50 No.76922064 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922316

>>76921770
>only below Cass and Bruce
>Tim kicked his ass twice

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:10:40 No.76922080 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922133 >>76923094

In what world could Batman EVER even touch Batwoman? She has more training, more experience, better gadgets, she's stronger, faster and smarter than he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:16:41 No.76922133 Report Delete

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>>76922080
Can't tell if you're being butthurt or satirizing people who are butthurt over that issue.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:18:00 No.76922146 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922180 >>76922241

>>76921951
Obviously the peak for humans is higher in the DC and Marvel universe, but only for Cass was it explicitly stated that she's performing above what should be a possible for someone without superpowers. Given the fact that Cass lolstomped Babs within a split second and won a sparring match with Bruce, causing him to cough up blood, after which Bruce described Cass as a "phenomena" that Stephanie Brown has no real chance of equaling, I think it's safe to say that Cass is at the top of the Batfamily as a fighter. She literally had to have her brain damaged and arranged in such a manner that the area's normally reserved for speech functioned in making her a better fighter, rendering her an illiterate mute, for her to perform at the level that she does.

David Cain impregnated one of the best martial artists in the world and exposed the resulting child to an abusive environment solely so Ra's Al Ghul would get his perfect bodyguard. All of the other rankings are up for negotiation, but Cass as the best fighter seems like a constant.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:20:23 No.76922166 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922203

>>76921886
Issue? I like batfamily stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:21:35 No.76922180 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922146
peak human in DC is Captain America levels in Marvel

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:24:26 No.76922203 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922166
Batman #1

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:29:32 No.76922241 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922303 >>76922315 >>76922397 >>76927687

>>76922146
>David Cain impregnated one of the best martial artists in the world
Doesn't mean her child will be even better, you know? that's retard logic.

Michal Jordan's kids aren't going to grow up to be better basketball players than him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:32:47 No.76922272 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921899
they all have to be under 5-8

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:36:41 No.76922303 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922320

>>76922241
>that's retard logic.
Comic logic is retard logic.

>Cass' autism gives her superpowers

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:38:09 No.76922315 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922331 >>76931397

>>76922241
Shiva at least had a normal childhood and a comparatively normal brain. Cass is more like if the child of Michael Jordan was forced to do nothing but play basketball from an early age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:38:19 No.76922316 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922343

>>76922064
Hey remember when Tim beat Cass by throwing out a bullshit punch that she should have seen coming?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:38:51 No.76922320 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922303
>everything is stupid so it's all right for this to be stupid
great standards you have there, buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:40:24 No.76922331 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922373

>>76922315
Still doesn't mean he'll be a better basketball player than his dad. Or even half as good. As I said, retard logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:41:53 No.76922343 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922316
When written by a man who didn't know how flintlock guns, the GCPD, Lynx, The League of Assassins, Cass, or really much of anything worked? Remember, this is the same asshat that killed Mad Stan with a gun.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:44:42 No.76922365 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922385

>>76920176
Bruce also smarter than Cass. Bruce beats better fighters all the time because he's outsmarts them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:46:13 No.76922373 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922674

>>76922331
Assuming he inherits the same physical stature and athletic potential, but is placed in an environment, earlier on, that better develops said potential, yeah it does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:47:42 No.76922385 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922410 >>76922413

>>76922365
He's really not. I've seen her solve cases before him on multiple occasions, under multiple writers. He is more educated, of that I'll agree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:50:48 No.76922397 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922674

>>76922241
It's about genetic potential due to her lineage. Lebron and MJs kids have greater chance of being athletic stars due to their daddy's genes doesn't mean they will be

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:51:21 No.76922400 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I keep seeing Jason do this dumb power ranking bullshit in B:E and B&R:E. I can't tell if the writers are trying to make a point or if they're really that stupid to institute a canonical Who Could Win In A Fight list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:53:06 No.76922410 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922385
That's because he's rigid and set in his ways about things while she approached things with a different outlook that put her on a closer track to the criminal like that issue with the kidnapped models in the doll house

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:53:31 No.76922413 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922490

>>76922385
>my Katawa Shoujo reject is the best fighter....and the best detective too!

Yeah fuck off

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:59:34 No.76922445 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76920660
Damn, anon. Why must you make want things that I know I will never have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:04:39 No.76922479 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922493

>>76921863
I think he is right in term of physical combat, I think it would suit Jason if he was a long to mid range fighter instead of close ranged fighter. Now that doesn't mean he can't fistfight, but he should be the weakest fist fighter of the Batfamily.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:05:20 No.76922484 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921351
>poison don't count

Motherfucker if she's down she's down.

It's like that indiana jones moment. Your skills doesn't matter if you bring a sword to a gunfight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:06:06 No.76922490 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922413
Nah, Tim is a way better detective, hands-the-fuck-down. I'm just saying she's not as retarded as everyone likes to say she is. She's literally a person wandering around a country that doesn't speak using a language type she has context for. It'd be like speaking a romance language and ending up in a place that spoke an indo-iranian language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:06:18 No.76922493 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922534

>>76922479
Or use rare art of combat known as Gun Fu and pistolwhip fuck out of bitches.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:06:35 No.76922494 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922552 >>76922781 >>76923322

Cassandra and Batwoman are stronger than Bruce, Tim and Barbara are smarter, Dick is more heroic, Jason is more pragmatic, Stephanie is braver, and Damian is a better leader.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:11:22 No.76922534 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922493
But then he will become a RWBY character

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:14:05 No.76922552 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922566 >>76922654 >>76922731

>>76922494
How did Batwoman get stronger than Bruce exactly?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:15:08 No.76922562 Report Delete

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>>76921899
Dick is like 5'8 but usually drawn as 6'4. Being short helps him with being the world's best acrobat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:15:22 No.76922566 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922552
Steroids, punching dead cows, pushing dumpsters in the morning...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:27:38 No.76922654 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922663

>>76922552
She beat in easily in 1v1 combat.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:27:40 No.76922655 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76920218
Jason wouldn't have been fighting her full strength though, while she was going all out.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:29:25 No.76922663 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922654
Nice meme.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:31:24 No.76922674 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76928260

>>76922373
>Assuming
retardedly assuming

>>76922397
>Lebron and MJs kids have greater chance of being athletic stars
wrong

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:32:24 No.76922680 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922694 >>76923420

>>76920385
In Under the Hood he easily kept up with Bruce and then there's >>76921225
But honestly, all the power rankings are useless, it all depends on who the writer jerks off to, anyone can be nerfed or made overpowered in any given comic.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:35:21 No.76922694 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922680
>it all depends on who the writer jerks off to, anyone can be nerfed or made overpowered in any given comic.
You're smart anon.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:39:08 No.76922717 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921770
He's still a kid and hasn't gotten control over his temper. Now Batman 666 would easily destroy anyone on the list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:41:20 No.76922731 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922552
She has lesbonic strength.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:41:57 No.76922736 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922768

>>76921863
What kind of logic is that? Jason had tonnes of training besides Bruce's even before the ridiculous reboot. By that logic Cass should be at the bottom of the list because she's barely trained with Batman at all.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:45:46 No.76922768 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922797

>>76922736
He's right. hack writers should stop trying to make the character they're writing "DA BES" and focus on their personality and character. Jason should be played up as a fuck up, you want him to be a quipmeister, fine, but make it so that he uses jokes to hide a warrior's pain. Don't make him out as successful. If you want him to be a hero and not an antihero GIVE HIM A DIFFERENT COSTUME AND PERSONA. And play him out as what he's supposed to be. Not a terrific fighter, not a genius, but just someone driven, someone angry.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:47:29 No.76922781 Report Delete

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>>76922494
>Damian is a better leader
Haha, what? He might become one eventually, but right now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:51:13 No.76922797 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922894

>>76922768
How is he a fuck-up though? He was a great Robin. Occasionally overly emotional, but so is Damian. The fact that he died doesn't make him a fuck-up. Damian has died, Bruce has died twice.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:03:14 No.76922894 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923106

>>76922797
He died because of his own stupidity. And he was always a troubled teen with anger issues. He struggled to find his place(like dying his hair) and when he came back from the dead he was a villain.
Bruce hasn't died once.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:03:47 No.76922900 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76922922

Depends on the time or era and what character you want to shine in the moment.
- At first it was Bruce>Dick Robin>Barbara
- Then Bruce>Dick Nightwing>Barbara>Jason. from that time and until Tim appeared Dick was a great detective (read new titans stories), leader and one of the best martial artist in pair with Deathstroke. Also Barbara was a so-so character but when he started with Oracle in Suicide Squad she upgrade to be superinteligent and computer wizard
- When Tim appeared affect Dick. Suddenly he was not a great Detective, they had to push Tim, also Tim was some kind of some martial artist prodigy (shiva wanted to train him and glorified him). Dick was reduced almost to a simply acrobat. In this time it was Bruce>Tim>Dick>Barbara (only because Oracle was in wheelchair and could not fight)
- Then Bruce was "broken" and we had Jean Pail, suddenly from a B lister to be Batman
Jean Paul>Tim>Dick>Barbara
- Jean Paul did not work and we get back to the previous status (with a little inpass with Prodigal)
- Then we have Cass, and she was Shiva daughter and super martial artist and everyone forgot that Tim was the super martial artist. Also Dick finally had his series which push him up and even encounter Richard Dragon (who had his own series at the time too). jean Paul is dead.
Bruce>Cass>Dick>Tim>Barbara
- Jason was alive again and to be some kind of villain. To be some kind of treat they upgrade him from wost Robin to anti hero. He even when to the titans tower and beat the hell up of Tim (none remembers at this time that Tim was the karate genious)
Bruce>Cass>Dick>Jason>Tim>Barbara
- Then Damian appeared, son of Batman, trained from years in the league of Assassins but still a kid.
Bruce>Cass>Dick>Jason>Tim>Damian (but a short margin not Tim equal)>Barbara
>We had earth primer Helena (Huntress) all this time running around, but she was never a threat barely above Oracle and some times equal to Tim. Also Steph
>Finally we had Flashpoint and the New 52.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:04:48 No.76922906 Report Delete

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>>76921863
>Dick/Damian taking down Spider man
>the guy who can lift trains, dodge bullets and knock out dinosaurs with one punch

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:06:42 No.76922922 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922900
There is exactly one point in history where Bruce could best Cass and that's when her martial arts had been stripped from her.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:07:14 No.76922927 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Why do cape shit eaters even argue about about this when it was proved that the writers will just mess with the power levels and change them however they want?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:13:19 No.76922966 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76920462
Oracle was a plot device and was becoming outdated.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:16:26 No.76922987 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76920603
>female character does anything better than a male character
>cheap empowering women moment
Sooner or later you're going to have to accept that women can be badass too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:17:57 No.76922990 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923088

>>76920665
>lol poison chocolate
Timfags pls.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:19:07 No.76923003 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923088 >>76927686

>>76920665
But this is bullshit jobbing. Lady shiva doesn't have to exert herself when fighting a robin so her heart rate should've stayed calm and steady.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:21:05 No.76923013 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923025

>>76920665
Poisoned or not Lady shiva would've just straight fuck Tim up. Somebody for the love of god get Shiva away from the Batbooks.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:22:07 No.76923020 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921838
Which would be stupid.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:22:53 No.76923025 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923062

>>76923013
Oh she would've fucked him alright.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:27:36 No.76923062 Report Delete

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>>76923025
>sexual objectifying Lady Shiva
Don't be a faggot anon.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:32:57 No.76923088 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923114 >>76923131 >>76923132 >>76923153 >>76927320 >>76927347

>>76922990
>>76923003
>B-b-but Shiva and Cass aren't supposed to lose to people who've spent years training to win by any means necessary. They know kung-fu!

They're both autistic and know only how to fight hand-to-hand combat. All the batboys know brain trumps brawn.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:33:18 No.76923094 Report Delete

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>>76922080
I think writers try to go a lil too hard when it comes to Kate being a badass. Lighten up Kate you're a superhero not a CIA assassin, try to have some fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:36:52 No.76923106 Report Delete

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>>76922894
The hair thing happened Pre-Crisis, it has nothing to do with his "troubled kid" origin. Saying he died because of his own stupidity is unjustified, he was trying to save his mother. If anything, Damian was acting more irrational, but noone ever says HE died because of his own stupidity. And he came back as a villian because the Lazarus pit screwed with his head. Really, none of this makes him a fuck-up.

I hate the magic mumbo-jumbo they added to his character in the Nu52, but otherwise, I see no reason why he should be portrayed as less competent than the other Robins. He wouldn't have been a Robin in the first place if he was less competent. Sure, all of them should have their own fortes, but overall all of them are meant to be on the same level.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:37:22 No.76923114 Report Delete

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>>76923088
Kung fu is a way of life that conditions the body and mind. Lady shiva isn't going to get tricked by Tim.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:40:23 No.76923131 Report Delete

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>>76923088
You're under some foolish impression that you don't have to be a genius to learn how to fight well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:40:27 No.76923132 Report Delete

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>>76923088
>spent years training to win by any means necessary
But that's what Kung Fu teaches ya.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:41:26 No.76923135 Report Delete

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>>76923114
You're confusing kung-fu with magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:43:56 No.76923153 Report Delete

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>>76923088
>all the Batfags know that plot armor beats established skills.
Lady shiva and cass are in a whole another league where cheap tactics don't fly. Lady shiva could have the flu and both hands tied behind her back and still demolish Tim in seconds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:44:52 No.76923158 Report Delete

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>>76923106
>because the Lazarus pit screwed with his head
that's a retcon, baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:45:25 No.76923162 Report Delete

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>>76923135
You're confusing plot armor with brains.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:47:19 No.76923170 Report Delete

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>>76923158
So is red hair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:56:05 No.76923216 Report Delete

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>>76923153
Not according to that issue where Tim beat the shit out of her to the point that she was clinically dead for a while. And all it took was some drug in his system. Get rekt, Shiva.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:56:16 No.76923217 Report Delete

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>>76923153
whatever you say.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:57:15 No.76923226 Report Delete

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>>76920184
Being really good at martial arts doesn't mean much against the guy with a closet full of bullshit supertech.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:05:39 No.76923292 Report Delete

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>>76923226
Who never brings it to these fights for whatever reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:06:27 No.76923296 Report Delete

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>>76923217
Then shiva beats her up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:06:36 No.76923297 Report Delete

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>>76920013
Jason will always be a massive failure

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Batgirlish Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:07:00 No.76923303 Report Delete

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I love how people keep using Cass pre-52 power level like they still matter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:08:11 No.76923315 Report Delete

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>>76923216
>what is jobbing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:08:59 No.76923322 Report Delete

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>>76922494
Yeah, but Bruce has the best mix of all those traits. He's the jack of all trades of the Batfamily.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:10:08 No.76923330 Report Delete

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>>76921770
He is low. He's just an arrogant little shit so he thinks he's higher when all of the other Robins can generally kick his ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:10:24 No.76923332 Report Delete

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>>76923292
Batman is only allowed to bring his A-Game vs his allies.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:14:31 No.76923366 Report Delete

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>>76923296
No she doesn't you liar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:17:28 No.76923388 Report Delete

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>>76923332
Which Cass counts as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:22:00 No.76923420 Report Delete

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>>76922680
I don't remember how Jason fought in the Under the Red Hood comics, but man, I wish his current hand-to-hand fights were more like the cartoon, where he utilized every single thing available to him. He's supposed to be street smart and a survivor, fighting with everything he has. Of course, during that time he was also a long-time planner instead of the brash reactionist he's usually written as.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:25:50 No.76923450 Report Delete

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>>76923388
I'm sorry I meant to say 'his allies on the justice league"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:36:02 No.76923522 Report Delete

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>>76920013
>Bat family power rankings

That highly depends on the writter favorite bat character

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:47:04 No.76923640 Report Delete

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>>76923106
that's because they always blame Batman instead

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:49:51 No.76923667 Report Delete

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>>76923450
Let's be honest those fuckers tried to kill him more than once

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:54:40 No.76923733 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923747 >>76923767

>>76923450
>>76923667
I can't take the Justice League seriously anymore. Bruce is the only adult there, everyone else has been de-aged to early or mid 20s. They're basically all college kids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:55:54 No.76923747 Report Delete

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>>76923733
>Who the hell is Bruce Wayne?
Really, Hal?

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Batgirlish Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:57:24 No.76923767 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923789

>>76923733
I miss the variety of before too. Them all being at the same young adult stage of their life is boring to me, especially because it seems like everyone is under 30 but Bruce. period. It's all teen vigilantes and young adult superheroes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:57:26 No.76923768 Report Delete

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>>76920013
Yeah that's some asspull Barbara is canon the worst one. She has the least amount of training and was never actually chosen by Batman, she forced herself onto him and Batman finally accepted cause he didn't wanna see his friend's daughter get hurt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:59:21 No.76923789 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76923840

>>76923767
And Bruce isn't 20 like rest of League only because he has decade of leading various Robins.

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Batgirlish Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:03:22 No.76923840 Report Delete

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>>76923789
And they de-aged The Robins and crammed their time together so they could make Bruce as young as he did. I don't mind them being closer in age, but it sucks because it takes away that Bruce raised them because now he...didn't. It made Damian more 'the real son' because he just like mentored the others for like a couple of years in their late teens, i miss that bond.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:06:02 No.76923880 Report Delete

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>>76923840
Two years of being Robin and you have to return suit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:06:57 No.76923891 Report Delete

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>>76923420
It really was a cool fight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os3VkJzsCVg

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:08:16 No.76923915 Report Delete

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>>76923840
>>76923880
And Tim technically wasn't even that.
At least in Kingverse their relationships are still canon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:09:31 No.76923934 Report Delete

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>>76923891
Yeah, it was really cool fight.
Silly as it sounds, I prefer him with domino mask beneath helmet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:30:34 No.76924152 Report Delete

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>>76923891
Batman is at his best when he has to fight other gadget based "normal" humans

the fact that it was a fight against Jason added something too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 11:15:58 No.76924949 Report Delete

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>>76921595
That's neat.
Anyone have anymore animations like this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 11:37:35 No.76925372 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76925451 >>76926616 >>76937408

>>76920598
>mostly being stubborn and a bitch but still

For liking Oracle you are part of the problem. Strong female? Oh right she's a bitch. Tired of this garbage that feels like propaganda.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 11:42:54 No.76925451 Report Delete

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>>76925372
Let's be fair here, when her personality came up in meaningful ways, it was often quite bitchy. Steph's strong, in character, but she's just kind of a cocktease. Cass is strong and the worst she comes off as is taciturn. Strength of character has very little to do with being a wretched bitch, but most authors fail to understand this.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:02:47 No.76925812 Report Delete

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>>76921863
He failed at everything the moment he said they could take down Spider-Man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:04:30 No.76925840 Report Delete

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>>76920013
"Power rankings" are bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:06:47 No.76925886 Report Delete

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>>76923522
Basically this. It all depends on the writer's favorite and whose title it is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:42:47 No.76926616 Report Delete

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>>76925372
Black Canary is a female I like who isn't a bitch. Bruce Waynne is a male I like who is a bitch. I don't think she's a strong female because she's a bitch, but it's not like either is mutually exclusive.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:12:51 No.76927320 Report Delete

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>>76923088
You do know martial arts and assassin skills are not the same as sending your kids to a McDojo right? "Any Means Necessary" is included in that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:14:21 No.76927347 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76927514

>>76923088
Hasn't Shiva been training since she was a teenager, so at least as long as Bruce? And unlike Bruce or Tim, she is essentially specialized in hand-to-hand combat. Shiva should win.

But it's not like DC ever gives her the respect that she deserves. Where's Judge Anon when you need him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:15:13 No.76927363 Report Delete

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>>76920176
Fucking hate you cassfags.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:16:44 No.76927394 Report Delete

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>>76921863
As a Batfag, why do people think that Batman or anyone on his level could EVER take on Spidey? He is on another level entirely, he's a fucking metahuman who basically always holds back. You can't even really hit the motherfucker if you're just a normal human, really, unless you get lucky or, again, he's holding back.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:20:09 No.76927471 Report Delete

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>>76921885
Landis is retarded and a massive DCfag, he gushing that batman could take down the entire Avengers group by himself because HE'S JUST SO TACTICAL!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:21:52 No.76927514 Report Delete

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>>76927347
On an unrelated note, do you think Shiva and Damian know each other?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:26:43 No.76927686 Report Delete

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>>76923003
Yes she fucking does. If unpoisioned would she dominate? No doubt. But you can't throw punches and kicks and doge that hard without your heart beating faster. That's not how bodies work. Exertion takes effort.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:26:49 No.76927687 Report Delete

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>>76922241
but Michal Jordan kids are balling

just check em

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:27:09 No.76927696 Report Delete

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:27:22 No.76927700 Report Delete

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>>76927514
Idk, but I've always wanted to see the two interact. Would probably be funny.

Batgirlish

Batgirlish Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:30:10 No.76927772 Report Delete

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>>76927514
I always liked the idea that she was someone who helped train Damian when he was little and doing League missions. Like an assassin aunty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:30:22 No.76927777 Report Delete

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>>76927696
that shit talking

BRAVO SLADE
R
A
V
O

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:49:30 No.76928260 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76928360

>>76922674
Are you really suggesting that kids of athletic parents don't have a greater possibility of being athletic and having traits that aid in athleticism vs kids who are born from nonathletic people?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:50:13 No.76928278 Report Delete

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I loved Slade's fight with Damian, when Dami just payed him off to go away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:52:25 No.76928341 Report Delete

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>>76923891
>rockets on dumpster
Lol. Is this a thing in the comics? I've seen it used on The Batman as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:53:11 No.76928360 Report Delete

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>>76928260
>literately genetics

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:01:14 No.76928591 Report Delete

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>>76920013
>Power Rankings

Stop this bullshit. It's fiction, there are no rankings, whoever wins is whoever the writer wants to win.

Fucking Hawkeye took down the Hulk in two seconds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:01:26 No.76928599 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76928821

>>76928360
That's my point. Genes for things like height and weight could come into play and help their child succeed in sports where things like that are reasons for success.

Not to mention that athelete parents may put their child in an environment where they can learns skills at high level.

i.e. Rousey, Curry

That's one reason why the creators of Cass said let's make Shiva and David Cain her parents. It's something he stresses in that Father's Day issue about why he did what he did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:10:01 No.76928821 Report Delete

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>>76928599
>its almost as if natural selection is at work

its evolution

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:30:51 No.76929308 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76929376 >>76929389

>all this asshurt over one anon stating the truth

You don't have to be a Cassfag to have a functioning memory.

Bruce and Cass have fought a few times, and she's destroyed him on every occasion. The one time he was faced with the prospect of fighting her without her holding back, due to rage drugs, Bruce fucking ran away because he knew she'd kill him.

Whether this is the case in the n52 has yet to be seen. If you've been reading Batman stuff for any length of time, though, you'd know that Cassandra and Bruce are just different kinds of characters altogether. Bruce is a pulp detective dialed up to 11; he's good at everything but he's not the best fighter in the world - he's essentially Sherlock with more developmental problems and a bat fetish. Cassandra is basically a wuxia character - she'd be at home in shit like Crouching Tiger, Hidden Dragon.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:31:46 No.76929327 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76929430

Has Dick ever dressed up as Red Hood?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:32:11 No.76929330 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76929372 >>76929487 >>76929517

>>76920013
...Do Talia and Ra's count as bat family?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:33:53 No.76929372 Report Delete

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>>76929330
Talia, maybe? Not Ra's though

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:34:03 No.76929376 Report Delete

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>>76929308
Wow. Someone gets it.

At least take solace in the fact that Batman is the best cheater in the DCU with maybe Luthor making a run at the title every so often and would beat her that way.

Hell, he's won against plenty of guys that outclass him in some form by turning the scales. I don't see what's wrong with him having to do that against someone who's Kung Fu the character.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:34:27 No.76929389 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76929477 >>76930003 >>76931679

>>76929308
>he's good at everything but he's not the best fighter in the world
He's beaten superman, darkseid, and karate kid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:36:12 No.76929430 Report Delete

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>>76929327
I don't think so. Why?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:38:01 No.76929477 Report Delete

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>>76929389
He's 'beaten' Superman and Darkseid due to taking advantages of their weaknesses, namely Kryptonite, Red Solar Radiation, and Radion.

As for Karate Kid, fucking source? Wasn't that Countdown or some shit? Yeah, the Karate Kid vs. Batman matchup is even worse for Bruce, there is absolutely NO way he could ever do shit to him. Karate Kid's martial arts are fucking broken, dude was on the same level as Pre-Crisis Superboy.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:38:27 No.76929487 Report Delete

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>>76929330
No.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:38:31 No.76929489 Report Delete

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>>76929430
A guy I know is talking about BvS in my Uni societies group chat. Some of the stuff I'm hearing I've never even heard of.

Has Dick ever become the Joker? Only Robin I could think of becoming the Joker was Tim in TAS.

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Batgirlish Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:39:42 No.76929517 Report Delete

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>>76929330
She's his baby mama; that's kind of like family I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:40:40 No.76929539 Report Delete

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>>76929489
>Has Dick ever become the Joker?
He did, in Dark Knight Strikes Again, that's sequel to Dark Knight Returns.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:58:39 No.76930003 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930086 >>76930131

>>76929389
You say that as if he slugged it out with them. Being a great tactician is not the same as being a great physical fighter.

That's why Batman is in the JL because he's got the cash and the whole I'm super paranoid and can make you think I rigged your space station to blow up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:01:10 No.76930086 Report Delete

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>>76930003
>You say that as if he slugged it out with them.
He did. He's punched out supes and darkseid. And made deathstroke and karate kid look like a joke. Yes, it would be nice if they kept him in the great tactician spot, but for people to really see him as an equal member of the justice league, apparently, he has to be right there alongside them punching out gods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:01:35 No.76930101 Report Delete

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>>76920013
muh strong independent buttwomyn who needs no batarang

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:02:35 No.76930131 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930171 >>76930726

>>76930003
If you believe Batman is not a great physical fighter when he has been stated to be among the best in the planet several times you can just go fuck yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:03:37 No.76930159 Report Delete

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>>76930086
>karate kid look like a joke
"that's not why i moved my leg" Asshole batman is best batman

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:04:22 No.76930171 Report Delete

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>>76930131
>>76930131
Not him but 'among the best' doesn't mean that he should be able to take on the likes of Lady Shiva, Cass, Karate Kid, or even Deathstroke or Bronze Tiger. Richard Dragon too, for that matter.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:05:27 No.76930202 Report Delete

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>>76930086
Didn't he, in the new krypton arc, beat two full powered kryptonian soldiers with only martial arts and pressure points after gatlings and missiles did nothing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:05:30 No.76930204 Report Delete

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>>76930171
Why not?
Also Deathstroke is far from the level of batman, Deathstroke has superhuman speed and strenght, without that he is probably below oliver queen.

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Batgirlish Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:06:16 No.76930227 Report Delete

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>>76930171
He can, but only because he's a smarter fighter not a stronger one.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:06:32 No.76930233 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930348

>>76930204
>Why not?
Because they are better fighters maybe?

Deathstroke is kinda debatable, but he also has fucking years of combat experience too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:06:52 No.76930240 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930373

>>76930204
>Also Deathstroke is far from the level of batman
He's captain america mixed with deadpool.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:11:53 No.76930348 Report Delete

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>>76930233
>Because they are better fighters maybe?

Not bronze tiger, and not deathstroke. And Batman has beaten shiva twice, being a better martial artist doesnt mean they are better fighters. Everyone over the level of Hawke is pretty much at the same level. the you have the power gap to Sensei and O Sensei.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:12:55 No.76930373 Report Delete

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>>76930240

But you are wrong, Slade is well beyond the limits of Captain America.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:13:41 No.76930388 Report Delete

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>>76930227
>He can, but only because he's a smarter fighter not a stronger one.
That shit can only take you so far.

>>76930348
Bronze Tiger? Wasn't he supposed to be one of the top 5 prior to the nu52? If he's ever lost to Batman, it's due to jobbing.

>And Batman has beaten shiva twice
He should still lose most of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:14:53 No.76930410 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930435 >>76930710

>>76930373
Which is why I said "mixed with deadpool". In either case, batman fucks him up repeatedly because he's the protagonist, despite having no business ever being on his level.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:16:31 No.76930435 Report Delete

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>>76930410
>In either case, batman fucks him up repeatedly because he's the protagonist, despite having no business ever being on his level.
Precisely.

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Batgirlish Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:17:31 No.76930463 Report Delete

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>>76930388
I think it depends on how much is at stake, if Bruce brings support, the circumstances whatever. Bruce is clever enough to beat much better fighters, but if they fought on even ground no tricks he'd lose thoroughly. But he would try to avoid that kind of fight by all means necessary.

I liked when he fought Nobody in B&R and got his ass handed to him. He's been less invincible since Nu52

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:19:28 No.76930546 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930628

>>76930463
>Bruce is clever enough to beat much better fighters, but if they fought on even ground no tricks he'd lose thoroughly.
Exactly. I was arguing on the assumption that this were 1v1, no frills, just all-out brawls, in which case, Batman does lose against pretty much all of them, or at least he should.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:22:18 No.76930627 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930675

>>76930388
>Bronze Tiger? Wasn't he supposed to be one of the top 5 prior to the nu52?

No, he wasn't he used to be back in the 80's, but then Cass, Hawke,were introduced, Shiva, dragon and batman got all powerups, while bronze tiger was the same.

>>76930388
>That shit can only take you so far.
And when the difference is small, and you are both smarter and WAY stronger than your oponent you will still win. Batman is stronger than anyone of the top 10 martial artists from DC, he can probably lift 3 times more than Dragon, only hawke has better stamina.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:22:21 No.76930628 Report Delete

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>>76930546
>or at least he should.
But he doesn't, and that's the problem. I get that he has to win since he's the protagonist, but you can not having him in a one on one fight, with no trickery involved with these people, and then win. Which is what they always do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:22:27 No.76930632 Report Delete

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>>76927686
But Shiva can beat up tim effortlessly.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:24:21 No.76930675 Report Delete

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>>76930627
>No, he wasn't he used to be back in the 80's, but then Cass, Hawke,were introduced, Shiva, dragon and batman got all powerups, while bronze tiger was the same.
Alright, fine.

Love how they screwed the brother over.

>And when the difference is small, and you are both smarter and WAY stronger than your oponent you will still win. Batman is stronger than anyone of the top 10 martial artists from DC, he can probably lift 3 times more than Dragon, only hawke has better stamina.
How strong are the other martial artists? Can't Cass do shit like break concrete with her fists? I was under the impression that they were just as OP as Batman.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:25:53 No.76930710 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930774 >>76930781

>>76930410
>despite having no business ever being on his level. according to who? you? Batman was Peak human, fucking human perfection before Captain America even existed. You are trying to retcon this, even when it started in the fucking golden age. And during the 70's Batman was pretty much a martial arts-detective comic.

9326

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:26:33 No.76930726 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930781

>>76930131
He is a great fighter. Just not the absloute best bullshit hax mode like Cassandra and Deathstroke are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:28:10 No.76930774 Report Delete

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>>76930710
>that Sugar Ray line From Batman

Seems so out of character these days

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:28:20 No.76930781 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76930848 >>76930892 >>76931227

>>76930726
See
>>76930710
Proves you wrong. There is absolutely nothing wrong with a character like batman soloing people like cass or shiva or even superman.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:28:32 No.76930788 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931056 >>76932824

>On paper:
Cass > Bruce > Damian > Kate > Barbara > Dick = Jason > Tim > Harper > Steph

>Accounting for the fact that every member of the Batfamily cheats like a motherfucker in a fight:
Bruce = Cass > Dick > Kate > Jason = Damian > Alfred > Tim = Barbara > Steph > Harper

Are we agreed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:31:25 No.76930848 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931152 >>76931268

>>76930781
>or even superman.
Where's that gif from Justice League: War with Superman just casual tossing around Batman while he's trying to fight him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:33:05 No.76930892 Report Delete

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>>76930781
>Proves you wrong.
They fight and is a draw.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:38:01 No.76931028 Report Delete

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>>76921886
>Damien in sneakers
It's the little things.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:39:18 No.76931056 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76930788
>anybody over alfred

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:43:17 No.76931152 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76930848
le Based bald manlet cereal lord

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:43:59 No.76931170 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931363

>>76923153
>Lady shiva could have the flu and both hands tied behind her back

Thats even more bullshit plot armor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:46:06 No.76931227 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931252 >>76931419

>>76930781
Richard Dragon wasn't trying to fight. He was defending himself while Batman was being the aggressor. If Dragon wanted too he would've beaten the guy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:46:23 No.76931234 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76927696
I need more characters that can talk shit and use that to win.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:46:46 No.76931252 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931309 >>76931343

>>76931227
>If Dragon wanted too he would've beaten the guy.
Nah. Maybe give him a decent fight, but batman would eventually come out on top.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:47:19 No.76931268 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76930848
Such a stupid scene

Batman says hey Hal, don't fight him. We just wanna talk. And what's the first thing he does when given the opportunity?

Fight. Terrible film.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:48:25 No.76931309 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931354 >>76931380 >>76931386

>>76931252
>Nah. Maybe give him a decent fight, but batman would eventually come out on top.
Uhhh, no. Richard Dragon would wreck his shit. IIRC, he was THE best fighter and martial artist in the DCU prior to the nu52.

Not really seeing how Batman would win against someone who was objectively superior to him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:49:38 No.76931343 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76931252
Sure anon. If that's what you want to believe, we'll go with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:49:56 No.76931354 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76931309
>IIRC, he was THE best fighter and martial artist in the DCU prior to the nu52.
In the modern day at least, my bad.

With Karate Kid being objectively the best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:50:11 No.76931363 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931498

>>76931170
That just the league Shiva is in. She's a fighting genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:50:41 No.76931380 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931436

>>76931309
>he was THE best fighter and martial artist in the DCU prior to the nu52.

But he wasn't.
The best one was SENSEI.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:50:47 No.76931386 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931436

>>76931309
Batgod. If he can fuck up darkseid and supes with no problem, some little chink would be nothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:51:15 No.76931397 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76922315
What bullshit. A little girl can yank out someone's larynx with her fingers like it nothing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:52:00 No.76931419 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931456

>>76931227
Dragon tried to knock batman out, failed, then batman tried to control dragon and failed too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:52:48 No.76931436 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76932352 >>76938333

>>76931380
Didn't richard dragon surpass Sensei?

>>76931386
Again, WHAT PART OF 'BATMAN EXPLOITED THEIR WEAKNESSES' DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

I mean, I guess Batman could just shoot him or poison him or something but that's not Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:53:16 No.76931448 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76920523

Agreed, Cassfags need to be fucking sterilized.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:53:40 No.76931456 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76931419
He parries two blows and blocks another all the while saying Hey I'm not trying to fight I want to stop this killer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:55:00 No.76931498 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931561

>>76931363
>I-Its okay when muh shiva uses bullshit plot armor

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:56:09 No.76931530 Report Delete

Quoted By:

power rankings in comics are mostly silly, as the plot can completely undermine them at any given time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:57:04 No.76931561 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76931816

>>76931498
One is a villain, the other is the protagonist. It's not rocket science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:57:07 No.76931562 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921770

Dick and Tim could kick his fucking ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:57:49 No.76931585 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76920013

To demolish the patriarchy of course!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:58:15 No.76931598 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921886

>Damien wearing converse to a dinner party

Fucking little snot-nosed arrogant shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:59:41 No.76931638 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76920013

>Dick Grayson
>Bruce Wayne
>Cassandra
>Batwoman
>Tim
>Damian
>Barbara
>Stephanie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:00:03 No.76931650 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76932404

>>76921770
I think, given time, Damien will eventually wind up being the most combat proficient member of the Batfamly who's not Cass. I mean, he already has the training. With more experience, and with age, as he grows older, I see no reason to see why he wouldn't be the best fighter barring Cass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:01:03 No.76931679 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76929389

What a disgusting Mary Sue

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:01:41 No.76931700 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Just remember guys,

If the writers are trying to be WRITERS and not just dragon ball z power level fags, then anybody could win.

You can't use "but in this comic, this character, beat this person" as actual evidence that can predict an outcome.

All it takes is for someone to be within the same "range" of skill, and then, they all have a chance to win.

It's like horse races. If the number one ranked horse always won, and the 2nd ranked horse always came in 2nd -- then what's the point?

Arguing over tiers of ability is stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:05:31 No.76931816 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76931561
Its still bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:15:11 No.76932075 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Batman>Cassandra>Dick>Damian=Jason>Tim>Barbra>Stephanie

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:26:27 No.76932352 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76931436
>Didn't richard dragon surpass Sensei?
I'm pretty sure he fought O-sensei, not sensei

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:28:44 No.76932404 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76932459

>>76931650
Except Morrison has shown the opposite. Damian cheated and booby trapped the entire city because he sucked worse than Bruce and Dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:30:44 No.76932459 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76932626

>>76932404
That doesn't even wholly make sense if you actually think about it.

Also that only happened b/c everything went to hell for like no real explicable reason when Damian became Batman.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:31:18 No.76932476 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76923891
>yfw they ran out of budget so they made him cut off batman's belt so that they didn't have to use anymore yellow ink

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:38:03 No.76932626 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76935835

>>76932459
Actually to make my point better, although it's probably too late now, this was basically to show that since Damian was raised as an assassin, was reluctant to NOT kill, and carried entirely the wrong attitude as a member of the Batfamily, that things essentially metaphysically went to 'hell' as he was the wrong person for the role.

Not to mention that none of that had fuck all to do with his fighting prowess anyhow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:41:41 No.76932724 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76932939 >>76933985

Cass, Dick, Bruce, Kate, Damian, Barbara=Tim, Jason

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:44:38 No.76932811 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76923891
The thing that always kills me about this scene is
>Bathroom with no door
What the fuck, that's got to be one of the biggest oversights ever

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:45:30 No.76932824 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76930788
>Damian over anybody

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:50:09 No.76932939 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76932724
>Tim and Barbara over Jason
Yeah, nah

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:29:36 No.76933887 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Midnighter could easily beat Cass

and he counts as part of the Bat-family

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:33:44 No.76933985 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76934246 >>76934386 >>76936364

>>76932724

>Dick ahead of Bruce

What the hell are you smoking?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:40:33 No.76934109 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76934440

>Damian has been training since he was at least 4 years old
>people acting like he'd get his ass kicked by Tim
Hell if we're doing he whole "genetics makes you better thing" then he definitely shits over most Robins.

Yes he's a special snowflake but its still true

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:45:34 No.76934246 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76934386

>>76933985
I was thinking more pre-52. I thought by the end of it Dick had easily surpassed Bruce.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:51:32 No.76934379 Report Delete

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>>76920013
In Cass's run she would simfight Barb all the time and just trounce her ass in 99/100 fights. In the 100th fight she was feeling pretty sad because she always looked up to Barb, and sim Barb managed to beat her that one time. Cass comes out of the sim and Barb tells her something along the lines of I was never the best trained or most athletic, but I did have brains and the know how to make use of her opportunities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:51:52 No.76934386 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76934246
You are retarded.

>>76933985
It's b8 m8.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:53:55 No.76934440 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76934588

>>76934109
He's only 10. 6 years of training isn't that much, especially wen you're barely old enough to walk and not shit your robin tights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:55:19 No.76934501 Report Delete

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>>76921863
>Take down Spidey
Bitches leave. Landis you are the dumbest motherfucker I ever saw.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:58:41 No.76934588 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76934876

>>76934440
That's the same amount of time Dicks been training in New52. By the start of New52 it was even less.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:01:12 No.76934649 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I think people are sort of getting riled up at each other here for not actually engaging in the same argument.

One side is saying that Bruce can beat Cassandra in a fight by playing smart and not engaging her in an actual duel. This is correct.

One side is saying that that Cassandra should wipe out Bruce is a straight-up brawl. This is also correct - we've actually seen this happen tons of times.

>b-but muh batgod beat Shiva that one time!

Stop being retarded, we all know that Shiva is written as better than anyone in the Batfamily 99% of the time. What some writer with more fanboyism than integrity spewed into one issue matters exactly zilch.

>b-but muh cass can't be beaten by tricks she's too gud!

Stop being retarded, of course she can. She's good but she's never been immune to shit like gas or remote weaponry or anything like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:12:33 No.76934876 Report Delete

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>>76934588
It's still dumb when you consider that the training would be done by a child who shouldn't be able to grasp the material as well as an adult.

There's also the fact that a 10 year old shouldn't be able to muster the strength to knock out a grown man.

The assassin stuff was still dumb, but it's more plausible that a 10 year old could kill a man if he's using a sharp weapon, which can be effective without a ton of force, and by attacking when the adult is asleep or otherwise incapacitated and can't fight back.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:53:44 No.76935835 Report Delete

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>>76932626

Damianfags tend to ignore that Grant Morrison wanted to showcase Damian Wayne as a kid full of himself and bad person, in case nothing changed him, and later show that he'll always battle his early upbringing and that this can and probably will lead to horrible shit, which makes him a bad fit for Batman's role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:16:38 No.76936364 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76936911 >>76941544

>>76933985
Everyone is rating Bruce low because it
cool to hate on him. We all know Bruce would beat all of them. Even if one is a better fighter, Bruce would figure out some way to beat them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:19:37 No.76936419 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76936836

I wonder where Terry would fit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:24:17 No.76936516 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76936927

>>76920137
>Damian = Tim
They fought once where Damian sucker punched Tim from behind and went crazy assassin on him, and Tim beat his ass down until Dick stopped them. Tim has said many times that he is not a great fighter. It's why he uses a bo staff, so that he can avoid close combat. And he still beat Damian.
Damian is a shit fighter

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:37:11 No.76936836 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76936903

>>76936419
Terry's an actual superhuman when in his suit. He's basically Spider-Man with invisibility and flight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:39:44 No.76936903 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76938169

>>76936836
He still gets his ass beat, arguably more then most of the batfam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:40:11 No.76936911 Report Delete

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>>76936364
Bruce is the second best at everything. Kind of like how Doctor Doom isn't the best scientist or the best sorcerer in Marvel, but the fact that he's a high ranker and maybe even second best in those fields and can combine them it gives him an edge.

Batman doesn't HAVE to be the best fighter or the best detective because he can combine them and become a jack of all trades. The Robin's need specialities to make them unique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:40:47 No.76936927 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76938356

>>76936516
Tim was a grown-ass 18 year old. Damian was a 10 year old boy. Of course he beat Damian. Tim's redemption match vs Damian in Red Robin was an embarrassment.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:56:53 No.76937408 Report Delete

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>>76925372
Oracle WAS a bitch. She called an illiterate girl stupid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:24:23 No.76938169 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76936903
Eh, Bruce doesn't regularly go up against cunts like Inque and Blight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:28:08 No.76938267 Report Delete

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>>76921385
>She is a melee fighter, she is not a martial artist

Swordfighting is a martial art, retard. Batman's 127 martial arts include various fencing schools. Batman uses Capo Ferro in one celebrated swordfight against his nemesis, Racer Cool, for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:30:54 No.76938333 Report Delete

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>>76931436
>Again, WHAT PART OF 'BATMAN EXPLOITED THEIR WEAKNESSES' DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

If exploiting Darkseid and Superman's weaknesses allows him to fight on an even keel with, and even sometimes triumph, over them (and he's matched them with pure power on one occasion each), then why can't Batman just exploit Cass's weakness, specifically being white dick?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:31:50 No.76938356 Report Delete

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>>76936927
Tim is 17, and Damian was trained by assassins since birth to be a super weapon and has fucked up a lot of guys much bigger than him.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:31:38 No.76941544 Report Delete

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>>76936364
This. At the end of the day, Bruce will do what it takes to win. The fucker just doesn't quit. He has a compulsion to have an answer to every eventuality, including having to take down his closest allies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:23:58 No.76943141 Report Delete

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>>76920176
>tfw Cass is the best Batgirl but Cassfags give her a bad name

smhfamlolidkbbq

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:32:46 No.76943423 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76921133
>It doesn't mean 'character I don't like'
Yes it does.

Anonymous

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>>76920665
:) i love tim

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