/co/ - Comics & Cartoons » Thread #76980642

[99 / 17 / ?]

115KiB, 1012x675, 1434195615431.jpg

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:22:57 No.76980642 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980729 >>76980732 >>76980786 >>76980920 >>76980992 >>76981057 >>76981232 >>76981372 >>76981423 >>76981621 >>76981696 >>76981710 >>76981826 >>76982175 >>76982216 >>76982539 >>76982550 >>76982634

Why is there always so much outrage when a character is made into a black person, or gay, or gets turned into a girl? Why do people get mad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:25:28 No.76980697 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980899 >>76981307 >>76981488 >>76981865 >>76982521

Because rather than making a new character and trying to make them popular, writers would rather have the popularity already there and just give whatever character they want the title

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:26:07 No.76980715 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Generally speaking there's very little thought put into it beyond "mark it off the list of why people should consider us progressive"

Tacking things onto existing characters isn't very creative at all while making new characters is always cool unless you're autistic and contrarian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:27:00 No.76980729 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980771 >>76980810 >>76980899

>>76980642
Why not? Why stop at race? why not change a character into a mentally disabled person, or a little person?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:27:05 No.76980732 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
I think someone needs to make an image that answers this question to avoid further shitpost threads like this in the future.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:28:42 No.76980766 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Let's petition to make Static Shock white.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:28:43 No.76980767 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Probably because it takes a big giant dump on that character's source material. The fact that it's a shitty cash grab gimmick makes it worse. Of course I imagine that some people are legitimate bigots, but only a small percentage of the upset people.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:28:56 No.76980771 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980729
They did that with Nova
They made him a 15 year old retarded Mexican that is also an insert for Jeph Loeb's dead son

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:29:06 No.76980773 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980813 >>76980898 >>76980970

Lets make Black Manta a white guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:29:44 No.76980786 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Has anyone ever taken something you liked and changed it so it didn't resemble what you fucking liked?

It should be kind of obvious. People want to be able to fucking recognize their favorite things.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1401641250312.jpg, 17KiB, 200x250

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:30:31 No.76980806 Report Delete

Quoted By:

It's a cheep gimmick to briefly promote sales with drama. Stories and development get uprooted so the seeds of internet progressiveness and feminism can be planted.

There are plenty of existing characters that have been black or gay or whatever since their conception, but the whiners who want this forced diversity don't know that because they don't read comics and those diverse characters don't get any support. They want the big popular characters to do a 180 to make them feel better.

It's a shitty message to sell a person; hey, your race/gender/identity/chia pet is only interesting if we slap it on like a haphazardly applied coat of paint to an existing white character!

It's fucking rude. How would you like it if someone came and started fucking with your shit for someone else's sake? The people who say they won't mind haven't experienced it.

Why am I responding to the fucking bait goddamnit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:30:42 No.76980810 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981610 >>76981760

>>76980729
Little person seems so demeaning.

Gotta agree with Brad Williams, an actual midget, who would rather be called midget or dwarf. Or a one better, Achon, as in Achondroplasia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:30:51 No.76980813 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980773
why not

White Tiger is like Latino or Puerto Rican or something

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:34:05 No.76980876 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980892

What character's race has ACTUALLY been changed like Wally West?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Fury.jpg, 131KiB, 880x1082

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:34:52 No.76980892 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980930 >>76981551

>>76980876
Nick Fury

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:35:11 No.76980898 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980773
Be careful now, someone actually got banned you for saying this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:35:14 No.76980899 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981109 >>76981224 >>76982521

Companies, or should I say people working for them, aren't allowed to say they actually have some sort of AGENDA (dun dun dunnnnnnn), even though they might not use that word at the workplace. Yes, the people working there know they have to make it more appealing to other people besides straight white men, but you also have places that might not even have some sort of social AGENDA (dun dun dunnnnnnnn) like the new Star Wars movie. The people working on said projects are not allowed to say they have to do that because talking about having to make a black character or the "real" reason why they are changing a character to be Muslim or gay (outside of the company deciding to reveal stuff officially) is because it is part of the NDAs.

Also what >>76980697 said, but when you do make new characters, you get stuff like the new Star Wars movie being called anti white because of white girl and black guy two main protagonists.

>>76980729
It will seem really easy for characters to randomly reveal they have Autism, self diagnosed or not. I don't have that one picture saved. It is just that there are a lot more guys who have brain problems (Autism) than girls for some raisin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:35:15 No.76980900 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980991

Most of whats been said is true but in world cape comics I'm numb to the attempts to shake up a character with some sorta random change. I dont care if Flash is black or if Cyborg was suddenly white just make an entertaining book but a lot of the time this doesn't happen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:36:22 No.76980920 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
people like status quo and hate change when unwarranted.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:37:08 No.76980930 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76980969

>>76980892
I don't think that counts.
He's an alternate universe version of himself and his own son.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO samuel-jackson-shield.png, 235KiB, 860x498

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:39:00 No.76980969 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981671

>>76980930
>an alternate universe version

well what the fuck? that's the same thing as the black Wally

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:39:10 No.76980970 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980773
Good, having a black villain was racist anyway

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:40:10 No.76980991 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981040 >>76981252

>>76980900
That is an unusual reaction.
One of the main reasons people like superhero comics is continuity.
So obviously they don't like when things change suddenly for no reason

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:40:12 No.76980992 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Shit tends to feel kinda token and for the sake of equality and not for the sake of making the story any better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:43:09 No.76981040 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980991
I'm definitely not into this stuff for continuity, if that was the case I'd never get over the sliding timeline.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:43:54 No.76981057 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
People freak out over any fucking change, look at SpOck, look at how people jumped the gun on the current Superman, hell look at people raging over Gal Gadot WW.

The only reason it seems like a bigger deal for race and shit is that now we have these stupid fucking Twitter wars that drag out nerd rage into framing it as a social issue that then gets turned into clickbait articles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:44:23 No.76981072 Report Delete

Quoted By:

It's insulting
>sorry we don't have enough black people in our comics black people
>here have this white character in black face

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:46:27 No.76981109 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980899
McDuffie pretty much laid all of this out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u16sKK-1oLQ

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:51:19 No.76981224 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981707

>>76980899
To be fair it's not like Abrams hasn't made an agenda public.
More brown faces at the Oscars.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:51:37 No.76981232 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981289

>>76980642
It's nearly impossible to do and not completely fuck the narrative.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:52:38 No.76981252 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980991
Yea but those people are fucking autistic, Superhero comics provide the most outlandish sci-fi and fantasy stories, that's why i like them

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:54:46 No.76981289 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981232
Now I'm willing to admit I've seen more of them fail than not but that's because shit writers not because the idea itself was hard to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:55:43 No.76981307 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981358 >>76981367 >>76981421 >>76981427

>>76980697

THIS.

Make original characters for the sake of diversity, don't change already established and beloved characters for the sake of diversity.

Marvel is the worst offender of this and because of it I don't read any Marvel comics except Invincible Iron Man.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO nigga spidey.jpg, 343KiB, 1024x1617

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:56:21 No.76981317 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981406

People read and watch capeshit because they want to have fun. There's nothing fun about race relations and politics.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO John_Boyega_by_Gage_Skidmore.jpg, 147KiB, 800x1142

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:58:22 No.76981358 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981307
>Make original characters for the sake of diversity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:58:54 No.76981367 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981307
I thought you were alright until you said you were reading IIM

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:59:15 No.76981372 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Many writers think that by just having a popular character be a minority they've come up with an interesting story. See: Venditti's Wally West.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:01:00 No.76981406 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981424

>>76981317
>Modern Marvel comics
>Not even giving the reader the choice to believe what they want, outright tells them X political ideal is good, Y is bad

The current Marvel writers aren't true believers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:01:31 No.76981418 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Different people are outraged for different reasons. Some of them are just racist and/or sexist. Outrage over the new Ghostbusters reboot is mostly this. Often, the outrage is over what people perceive as major changes being made to their favorite characters purely for the sake of adding a minority to the cast. For instance, they made Sue Storm adopted just so Johny could be played by a black man, and Iceman's teenage clone is gay, but Iceman's been around for decades without a hint of homosexuality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:01:38 No.76981421 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981307
>we want an ethic character
>I know! Let's make a new one!
>STATIC SHOCK (TM)
>no one watches it because people just want fun escapism, not a call to march on Washington
>Static Shock (TM) is canceled

>what if we take a white character and make him ethic?!
>enter black Spider-Man, black Heimdall, black Johnny Storm
>audiences become enraged because they just wanted to see Superman punch Lex Luthor in the face, not see Black Superman punch Lex Luthor in the face as a bold statement about race relations in the US

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:01:46 No.76981423 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Because it's handled poorly more often than not, your pic is testament to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:01:48 No.76981424 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981465 >>76981506

>>76981406
I guess you've never read an X-men book.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:02:01 No.76981427 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981635

>>76981307
They made Khamala Khan, and since Ms. Marvel is a nomadic name that switches hands, it works.

That's it. Everybody else simply replaces long standing big names.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:03:34 No.76981465 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981424
I bet you don't read comic books at all.

ValleLator !nCGvC6eOuQ

ValleLator !nCGvC6eOuQ Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:04:28 No.76981488 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980697
This.

Like I'm more offended at the laziness and them just shitting all over an established character that's around for 70 years.

I don't give a fuck if my mutants are gay or muslim, just be fucking new mutants. Don't take Cyclops and make him trans and convert to Taoism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:05:31 No.76981506 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981594 >>76981601 >>76981910

>>76981424
X-Men never full force hamfists it's views on social politics, where the latest Captain America has gone out of it's way to become a strawman comic.

Even the original Cap runs didn't do it as rough and strawmaned as the new one, age and all. It has moral briefs while Cap knows he can't always fix the world and make a change one at a time. No, new Cap goes "ME GOOD, U BAD, LOL TRUMP AMIRITE FELLOW CHILDREN?"

ValleLator !nCGvC6eOuQ

ValleLator !nCGvC6eOuQ Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:07:16 No.76981551 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980892
Do you even /co/ ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:08:25 No.76981578 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981601 >>76981624 >>76982048

Dont non whites get offended by this shit?

A bunch if old white writers and admen are pretty much saying the only way non whites can get respect and admiration is to steal a white dude's identity

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO GodLovesManKills.jpg, 82KiB, 400x533

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:09:18 No.76981594 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981506
Are you serious? X-men has always been pretty heavy handed about social viewpoints.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:09:27 No.76981601 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981615

>>76981506
Falcon Cap hasn't done that
>>76981578
Different people get offended by different shit but ultimately none of it matters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:09:51 No.76981610 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981853

>>76980810
Dwarf is a badass term
anyone that doesn't want to be called it is lame

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:10:17 No.76981615 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981704

>>76981601
>Falcon Cap hasn't done that

Somebody needs to catch up

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO image.jpg, 962KiB, 970x2569

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:10:27 No.76981621 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981840 >>76981892 >>76981903 >>76981978 >>76982621

>>76980642
Because White Cissys ruin everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:10:33 No.76981624 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981578
Honestly not really, some people are really putting too much thought into it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:11:10 No.76981635 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981704 >>76981817 >>76981985

>>76981427
That's hardly fair.
Kamala may have taken up the mantle, but she did not take the name Captain Marvel and is not trying to just be a younger Pakistani Captain Marvel. She is trying to be her own hero.

Which is a criticism that Jane Thor has, they do nothing to differentiate her with what she does against Thor. In fact they have an excellent way to show that she can do things Thor can't.

Bring the Ragnarok into the equation, Thor is supposed to die to stop it. Except Jane Foster is not Thor, the prophecy has no bearing on her, means she had a chance to stop it without dying. They could play that angle, but they won't.

As of right now Mile, Jane and a few others are just a Ms. Man character to borrow the term. They do nothing that the previous character can't or hasn't already done. Which is a problem. If you changed the person under the mask but nothing else, its not progressive, its just pandering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:13:12 No.76981671 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980969
>well what the fuck? that's the same thing as the black Wally

Rebooting a universe isn't quite the same as making a seperate one. Like Green Lantern didn't even lose its previous continuity at all, it was mid-story when Flashpoint happened and kept on truckin'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:14:34 No.76981696 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Because it's along the same lines as making Optimus Prime transform into an electric car instead of a truck.
It's pointless change to pander instead of change that has reason behind it
I wonder how that would go down. After all: trukk not munky

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:14:55 No.76981704 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981615
What happened? When has he actually referenced Trump? All I'm aware of is the Anti-Immigrant squad.
Though Spider-Miguel did shit talk trump.
>>76981635
How many times has Thor died in Ragnarok already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:15:05 No.76981707 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981745

>>76981224
Did Twitter fucking forget Leia and Lando existed? Why is everyone pretending black guys and women are new in Star Wars?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:15:17 No.76981710 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642

That's when it isn't done well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:16:53 No.76981745 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981798

>>76981707
Oh no I'm just saying Abrams wants more brown faces at the oscars,Boyega and those fuckers aren't anything new to the series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:17:41 No.76981760 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980810
I've been saying this since the 90's.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:19:53 No.76981798 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981830

>>76981745
No but why is all this whining about Star Wars having a black guy and chick lead even happening.

A chick has ALWAYS been a main character and Billy Dee Williams blew up the fucking second Death Star.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO image.jpg, 244KiB, 550x818

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:20:10 No.76981805 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981840 >>76981892 >>76981895

>this thread
>MUH WHITENESS

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:20:13 No.76981808 Report Delete

Quoted By:

The thing about black Wally that I don't understand is that The Flash is already a legacy superhero. Making a new Flash character to be the face of the book doesn't have to completely replace the existence of one of the other four guys named Flash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:20:50 No.76981817 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982068

>>76981635
>Which is a criticism that Jane Thor has, they do nothing to differentiate her with what she does against Thor. In fact they have an excellent way to show that she can do things Thor can't.
People criticized Jane for the crappy build up she had with the stupid mystery of who F!Thor is and the feminism induced plot holes and OOC moments, and how it was kind of stupid for her to take Thor's name as her costumed identity, since that was his real name, not his costume, and also it's a man's name and she's a woman. I never heard anyone complain that she wasn't different enough from Thor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:21:29 No.76981826 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Because they're cynical publicity stunts that do nothing to genuinely further diversity

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:21:37 No.76981830 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981798
Because partially racists partially people just dont' trust the new shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:22:20 No.76981840 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981876

>>76981621
>>76981805
I see tumblr has arrived.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Dwaven_Females.jpg, 296KiB, 1263x766

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:22:56 No.76981853 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981610
Might be the little women

They know that Dwarven women have it hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:23:26 No.76981865 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980697
Why the fuck wasn't it just /thread here? Because frankly, that's the fucking answer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:23:59 No.76981876 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76981932

>>76981840
/pol/ pls leave

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:24:28 No.76981892 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982712

>>76981805
>Everyone abhors a gated community
except the people living in there.
Also Sue wasn't white.
Did anyone complain that Johnny would mean too many black people with Sue rather than just being pissy that Johnny was changed? >>76981621
True, though you need to put Women on the end of that.
White Cissy Women ruin everything.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO 1445840410107.jpg, 45KiB, 280x278

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:24:37 No.76981895 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981805

ValleLator !nCGvC6eOuQ

ValleLator !nCGvC6eOuQ Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:25:03 No.76981903 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981621
>hes going for his race card
>zimmerman powers activate
>current status: euphoric

Holy shit fuck the political panhandling, those lines made me kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:25:26 No.76981910 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981506
I take it you never read Morrison's X-Men run or that time in Cap where a Nixon stand-in was a member of the Secret Empire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:26:23 No.76981932 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981876
Is /pol/ the only one to dislike tumblr on 4chan?

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO hate white men.jpg, 407KiB, 970x2569

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:28:57 No.76981978 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982621

>>76981621

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:29:22 No.76981985 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982570

>>76981635
>Bring the Ragnarok into the equation, Thor is supposed to die to stop it. Except Jane Foster is not Thor, the prophecy has no bearing on her, means she had a chance to stop it without dying. They could play that angle, but they won't.

So what you're saying is that Jane will die at Ragnarok and Thor, being freed from the cycle of godhood, will assume the name Jane Foster, becoming a doctor and cancer patient?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:32:21 No.76982048 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981578
I'm not white
I don't get offended by anything, if I did I wouldn't be here, but it is patronizing and annoying

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:33:14 No.76982068 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981817
If you change the person behind the mask, and nothing else changes. What legitimate reason for change did you have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:38:55 No.76982175 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982621

>>76980642
I'm a black anon, if that counts for anything (which it shouldn't) and I honestly hate when they turn pre-existing heroes and heroines a different color just to pander to my demographic.

If you really have an idea for a nigger superhero, then make a nigger superhero. Don't kill off Peter Parker and/or retroactively make Spidey black. I hate that shit.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO tumblr_nsrf9rnqPn1uwlmkuo1_1280.jpg, 2MiB, 1200x1845

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:46:16 No.76982216 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982588

>>76980642

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:46:51 No.76982221 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I don't mind diversity. It's forced diversity I have a problem with. It's not genuine, it's trying to make a buck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:28:13 No.76982481 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982570

What if Static was a white guy?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:34:22 No.76982521 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980899
>Also what >>76980697 said, but when you do make new characters, you get stuff like the new Star Wars movie being called anti white because of white girl and black guy two main protagonists.

Yeah, by like 50 people
Nobody besides the people who browse sites like Stormfront mind diversity; it's changing an ESTABLISHED character that alienated fans of the orriginal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:36:47 No.76982539 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982640

>>76980642
>or gets turned into a girl?

I get mad because this never ever fucking happens. It's always a female character taking over a male role. I'm a huge TGfag and I can still fap to stuff like Jane Foster as Thor if I imagine she's just the male Thor transformed, but I'd like to have a character who properly caters to my fetish. It's so close constantly and yet so far away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:38:47 No.76982550 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Because the main ingredient to superpowers is white privilege.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:40:51 No.76982570 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76982481
Then he'd be Spider-Man.

>>76981985
That sounds like it could be all kinds of hilarious.
Plus it'd get us to whine about trans rather than feminists. Change is nice once in a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:42:50 No.76982582 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I honestly don't care anymore. It's happened so many times by now that I just have to accept it. Whor outsold God of Thunder with EVERY issue. Something obviously works here for Marvel.

People on /co/ rage night and day but its not like they actually buy comics. They have no voice in the industry. Nothing you say or do here will matter. The books you like will get cancelled while the stuff SJWs like will continue to get made.

Its just a fact of the capeshit industry and you gotta deal with it.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO uncanny_600_1.png, 2MiB, 900x1367

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:43:36 No.76982588 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982595

>>76982216

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Uncanny_600_2.png, 2MiB, 1049x1600

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:44:37 No.76982595 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982602

>>76982588

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Uncanny_600_3.png, 2MiB, 1400x1086

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:45:58 No.76982602 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>76982644

>>76982595

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:49:04 No.76982621 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981621
>>76981978
Oh come on!
The jokes are actually funny.
And this is about stereotypes we all met online.
I really don't see a problem here.
Shooting down dialogue by yelling bullshit at the opposition is a legitimate problem with discourse nowadays.

>>76982175
But that hasn't happened. We have two universes outside the main verse where he died and others took on the role of Spider-Man.
So conceptually in 616 we have Miles as a legacy without having Peter die, but freed up to do new things while Miles takes over the New York neighborhood.
So they manage to have their cake and eat it, too.
By having two Spider-Men at the same time. Well, three if you want to count the future one.

If anything, that is patronizing to Miles who gets thrown Peter's leavings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:50:44 No.76982634 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76980642
Its very simple. Now, to be specific, I don't personally mind if a characters title is taken over by anyone. New Thor is a girl? Thats fine. Making her identity a mystery for so long was stupid, and treating Mjolnir like a green lantern ring is incorrect, but I'll bite. Same with say, Falcon as cap. If its not gonna be Bucky, the person that makes the most sense to take over the title is Wilson. The problem comes when you take a character and make huge sweeping changes to him, or make assertions that such changes are completely normal, and anyone who thinks they aren't is racist. If you knew somebody and they looked, sounded, and/or acted completely differently, they wouldn't seem like the same person, would they? Race/Gender/whateverthefuck lifting is really never cool, unless its clearly a big reboot, or alternate universe. Even then its a bit weird. I mean, fuck I love Idris Elba as Heimdall, but read little and less comics about Heimdall, so I have no attachment.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO Sera_(Earth-616)_from_Angela_Asg (...).jpg, 89KiB, 445x1295

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:51:54 No.76982640 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76982539
Well, there is one, technically.
Although we did not know her before.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:52:23 No.76982644 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76982602
I keep hoping this is how it'll play out
that everything was just to make a point about her being a mindraping cunt
but it wont, this will be about making Bobby come out of the fridge and accepting himself
yay him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 07:01:22 No.76982712 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>76981892
The problem is that there are actually racist people who disliked the changes for that reason. They make everyone who just don't like the change look bad. And speaking honestly, if you saw that movie and it was your biggest problem there has to be something wrong with you. He was probably the best character in that shitfest, and I can see why Josh Trank likes working with him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 07:16:22 No.76982836 Report Delete

Quoted By:

because then they can't self insert to them anymore

Subject

Name

E-mail

Password

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these boards

Your latest searches