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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:21:25 No.77010638 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77010724 >>77010743 >>77010753 >>77011079 >>77011175 >>77011197 >>77011204 >>77013248 >>77013282

This was destined to fail the moment they revealed Bruce was still alive way too soon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:24:25 No.77010682 Report Delete

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It hasn't failed it's really good actually

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:27:14 No.77010720 Report Delete

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I like that they interact with Bruce in new ways.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:27:25 No.77010724 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77010734

>>77010638
What is this?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:28:21 No.77010734 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77010917

>>77010724
Bat-Gordon

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:29:19 No.77010743 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011190

>>77010638
But it sells in the top ten

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:30:15 No.77010753 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77010865

>>77010638
Snyder's said it's just as much a Bruce story as it is a Gordon story, so that was his intention. It was never meant to be huge status quo changer for a long period of time, it's just a single storyline Snyder wants to tell and it'll all wrap up and be back to normal by the time it's finished.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:34:58 No.77010848 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77010919

>DC isn't re-numbering their trades
>Bat-Gordan is vol 8 or some shit

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
EXTREMELY TRIGGERED NEED SAFE SPACE.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:36:01 No.77010865 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77013335

>>77010753
I like both aspects of the Gordon story and the Bruce story, but telling them simultaneously like this feels like it's taking away from both of them. Of course we know Bruce would be back as Batman, so it just makes this feel like a filler story when they could explore a lot more with this.

As for status quo, I know nothing will change, it's Batman, but I'd like to see a more Bruce Wayne centric side of Batman for a while.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:36:26 No.77010872 Report Delete

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>actually wanting them to pretend this is a "NOTHING WILL EVER BE THE SAME AGAIN!!!" change
shit taste, they've handled this perfectly

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:38:52 No.77010917 Report Delete

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>>77010734
Barbara should become Batman for a bit using a super suit. Not one that over the top, but one that gives her a man's bulk.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:39:02 No.77010919 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77010987

>>77010848
Why would they renumber the trade?

It's still part of the same Snyder run. The book didn't change it's name or relaunch.. So no need to renumber anything.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:41:45 No.77010957 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011124

Is Snyder staying on after #50?

From what I understood, Capullo is leaving for a while after #50 to work on another book and will come back to Batman "eventually."

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:43:59 No.77010987 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011028 >>77011047

>>77010919
Batgirl trades got renumbered and it is still part of the same volume as the first Nu52 Batgirl series.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:46:50 No.77011028 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011157

>>77010987
Didn't Batgirl get overhauled with a new creative team? It was a relaunch in the sense that it ignored all preceding Batgirl issues.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:48:10 No.77011047 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011157

>>77010987
Well that got a new creative team.

Bat-Gordon is just another arc of Snyder's Batman run. We don't even know if that status quo will last past issue 50 yet.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:50:29 No.77011079 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77013294

>>77010638
It was destined to fail because it's yet another storyline ripped from Morrison's run.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:54:11 No.77011124 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011177

>>77010957
That's a shame, Capullo is probably my favorite artist I've seen on Batman. He is very understated while still being emotive. I would love to see him on Flash or Wonder Woman for a while since both characters have been on hiatus for the last couple of months.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:56:38 No.77011157 Report Delete

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>>77011028
>>77011047
A bloo bloo bloo I just want Bat-Gordon on my shelf forever without it triggering me, why do you guys have to keep figuratively literally raping me with your rational reasoning?

Also Wonder Woman under the Finch did something similar and it didn't get renumbered.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:58:49 No.77011175 Report Delete

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>>77010638
batman looks like a robo-rabbit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:58:56 No.77011177 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011270

>>77011124
Well he's not definitively coming back to Batman. Snyder's been a bit coy about wording their reunion saying it's for an exciting secret project, and Snyder's voiced his desire to write Wonder Woman a bunch of times in the past so it's possible.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:59:36 No.77011190 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011347 >>77013300

>>77010743
It's Batman, of course it sells in the top ten.

They could ship a book that's nothing but 20 pages of some hobo shitting himself, call it Batman, and still outsell almost anything else.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:01:02 No.77011197 Report Delete

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>>77010638
This probably would have bombed if it weren't for Bruce.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:01:58 No.77011204 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011228

>>77010638
in what way has it remotely failed?
>Sells well
>different and fresh
>creepy new original villain
>Gordon is a strong lead who acts as his own hero but is certainly not Bat-God
>Implying Bruce being alive and simply unable to be Batman anymore isn't more interesting than just a pointless comic death

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:03:38 No.77011228 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011259 >>77011282

>>77011204
I've actually been really enjoying most of the DCyou changes, it's a damn shame they didn't do better.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:04:41 No.77011241 Report Delete

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Is anyone else excited to see what the status quo will be after? I'm assuming Bruce won't be the same Batman he's been. I for one hope for a Batman where Bruce is the man rather than the mask. A Batman that trusts and has relationships, that can be with Julie Madison (my personal favourite Bat-romance) and a gordon that can be Batman for when Bruce can't. should be interesting.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:06:05 No.77011259 Report Delete

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>>77011228
Same, I think most of us on this board feel the same way honestly. We're just about the only ones though and most of us don't actually buy comics, let alone singles, so yeah.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:06:59 No.77011270 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011308

>>77011177
I hope if Snyder gets the Wondy gig he includes as much of the pantheon as Azzarello did, though Azz didn't leave him much to work with.

I know each issue is basically mandated to have at least one fight scene nowadays but I personally like watching characters talk things out before fighting, it's much more relatable. I think Azz did a pretty good job of that but I can't see Snyder making Diana that kind of character. If people just went around punching every new person they met the world would be chaos.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:08:21 No.77011282 Report Delete

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>>77011228
but what exactly is wrong with it? and eh honestly the DCYou changes are pretty hit and miss for me
>Tim fucking Drake is still BB

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:10:25 No.77011308 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011336 >>77016490

>>77011270
>Snyder on Wondy
hmm... I guess we'll see. Honestly the only wonder-woman story I can say I've been genuinely invested in has been Darkseid war, Johns is alot of things but he writes wonder-woman quite well I think. and Fabok draws the best Wonder-woman than anyone else

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:12:20 No.77011336 Report Delete

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>>77011308
No one will ever draw a better Wonder Woman than George Perez did.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:13:34 No.77011347 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77011561

>>77011190
No it sells because of Snyder's deep writing.
Just like Spider-Man Renew your Vows sold becaus of Slott's thought-provoking writing and his new break-out villain.
And like how Star Wars sells because of Jason Aaron.
And Justice League sells because of Geoff Johns.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:30:26 No.77011561 Report Delete

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>>77011347
I like the artwork really. The writing, especially for Joker, can be quite bad. But not gonna lie, I really enjoyed Year Zero and that Riddler finally got some love again.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:38:35 No.77012175 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77012376 >>77014655

Kinda unrelated, but what happened to Batman on the Möbius chair discovering the Joker's identity? Anything come of that?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:57:39 No.77012376 Report Delete

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>>77012175
DC's whole "don't worry about continuity" pretty much fucks any questions like that. But no nothing came of it but both Scott Snyder and Geoff Johnms said Joker's name would not be revealed. so its pretty fucking pointless.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:03:04 No.77012417 Report Delete

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Agreed. I know from the Flintstones amnesia can be reversed at a drop of a hat or bowling ball.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:04:22 No.77013248 Report Delete

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>>77010638
>implying anyone believed he was actually dead or would stay dead if dead

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:10:31 No.77013282 Report Delete

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>>77010638
Failed how?

In terms of sales?

Critically?

Be more specific.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:13:48 No.77013294 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77013417

>>77011079
Grant Morrison invented replacement Batman.

Nice meme.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:15:24 No.77013300 Report Delete

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>>77011190
It's selling double what the previous writers sold.

Snyder is popular stop being butthurt.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:21:08 No.77013335 Report Delete

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>>77010865

Bruce being amnesiac and carrying stuff into the shelter and building playgrounds wouldn't sell funny books, anon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:37:49 No.77013406 Report Delete

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>sales are still DC's top book
>reviews are still good
How exactly is this book falling OP? Also why should they even pretend Bruce was dead, any retard can tell they're not going to kill him

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:39:45 No.77013417 Report Delete

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>>77013294
It is a meme. It's an old tactic of saying something to make two groups of people fight.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:03:22 No.77014655 Report Delete

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>>77012175
You do realize that Batman is going to forget that identity the moment he gets out of the chair, right?

It was just to show the power of the chair, telling Bruce something that's never been revealed to the readers before.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:11:03 No.77016490 Report Delete

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>>77011308
>Johns is alot of things but he writes wonder-woman quite well

Nah. I haven't forgotten the first two years of the new 52. He may have gotten better, but he's doing one step forward after taking three steps back at first.

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