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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:01:31 No.77015358 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77015416 >>77015526 >>77016081 >>77016158

i want to start reading wiccan and hulkling's stories, which books should i start with?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:03:20 No.77015381 Report Delete

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Fantastic Four: The New Generation.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:04:44 No.77015404 Report Delete

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Their stories all kind of suck tbh

But check out Heinberg's Young Avengers

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:04:47 No.77015406 Report Delete

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I just think of aids when I see a gay couple.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:05:36 No.77015416 Report Delete

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>>77015358
All the Young Avengers books then the current run of New Avengers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:06:12 No.77015424 Report Delete

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>>77015406
What is this, the 80s?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:06:29 No.77015426 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77015485 >>77015526

No, you don't. Trust me.

If you want an actually decently written homosexual relationship in comics try Authority.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:10:16 No.77015485 Report Delete

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>>77015426
ok, how bout something not dc though?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:11:40 No.77015513 Report Delete

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>>77015485
Love and Rockets?

Marvel doesn't have any good gay couples.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:11:51 No.77015515 Report Delete

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>>77015485
But he right.
All the Wiccan and Hulkling Stories thus far have been pretty meh to shit.
The second Volume of Young Avengers limps along and is just barely tolerable because Loki.
And volume 1 is just okay.
I'd just read Young Avengers Volume 1.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:12:31 No.77015526 Report Delete

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>>77015358
I know they're cute and you want it to work but really, you're better off skipping most everything they're in.
I don't know if it's bad writing, bad direction, or what but they come across as a pretty bad couple. I think a lot of that'll get better now that they're under a solid writer in New Avengers.
I cannot tell you how often I just think "Teddy's only here because he's shackled to an inescapable reality warper."

Like >>77015426 said, Authority is good, current Midnighter run is great if you want a gay super hero.
Hell, current Hellblazer run's not doing bad with a bi hero either. It's not great Constantine but it's good for what it is.

Batgirlish

Batgirlish Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:12:55 No.77015528 Report Delete

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Just read Midnighter and Grayson instead.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:14:02 No.77015543 Report Delete

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>>77015526
They even cover that in volume 2, I believe.
Where Teddy's like 'What if he's just warping reality to force me to be with him?' and handled it like ass.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:17:28 No.77015597 Report Delete

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>>77015485
Authority came from DC's Wildstorm imprint and DC's current Midnighter book feels a lot more like Wildstorm Midnighter than the previous stuff he had in DC.

Marvel has Northstar in just about nothing, Bendis decided young Iceman is gay and nothing's happened there, Anole's another gay mutant but I haven't seen him in YEARS, I think that leaves Marvel's Western title "Rawhide Kid", so have fun with that.
DC's about the only imprint I can think with a well done gay superhero, can't think of a single indie thing I've read/checked out about gay heroes and I sort of look for that.

>>77015543
Yup, I really wanted that to go somewhere or at least be well addressed. That's what I get for reading Young Avengers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:20:34 No.77015637 Report Delete

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>>77015597
>Yup, I really wanted that to go somewhere or at least be well addressed.
Nigga why did you expect that from current Gillen? The only book he doesn't go full ham on is Uber

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:20:48 No.77015640 Report Delete

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>>77015485
>wanting good writing for gay characters from Marvel

OP stop. And get this. But if you really want something, get Scarlet Spider.

For Wiccan and Hulkling there's always Young Avengers but STOP after Children's Crusade.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:21:20 No.77015648 Report Delete

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>>77015597
The first volume was okay, though.
Not great.

The Midnighter's first solo series was a much more fun read though.
Who doesn't love gay batman?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:23:22 No.77015667 Report Delete

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>>77015648
>The Midnighter's first solo series was a much more fun read though.
It was more fun for the first nine issues at least, the current one is also pretty fun and has a good focus on gay stuff

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:24:00 No.77015680 Report Delete

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>>77015528

This. Midnighter is excellent.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:25:06 No.77015701 Report Delete

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>>77015485
Nigga, DC has some really good gay characters.

The current Midnighter run is much better than Young Avengers if you want to read something with a gay protagonist. Personally, I though Wiccan and Hulkling were pretty shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:32:10 No.77015811 Report Delete

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>>77015637
Gillen won my heart with his run on Journey Into Mystery, jumping from that to Young Avengers broke my heart.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:34:11 No.77015846 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77015878 >>77015882

>>77015811

You think that's bad, ask the people who followed Aaron's run on Thor.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:36:01 No.77015878 Report Delete

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>>77015846
I've never liked a single one of Aaron's Marvel work. None of them whatsoever

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:36:14 No.77015882 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77015928 >>77015934 >>77016009

>>77015648
I haven't checked out the first run, I sort of fell out of comics for awhile. I'll have to give it a chance, that redesign definitely turned me off though.
What made DC think that spike-suit was better than perfection?

>>77015846
Oh no. No way. You mean it fell to shit after the God Butcher arc?
That's the feel bad story of the year.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:37:49 No.77015905 Report Delete

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Current Midnighter is SHIT. I really wanted to like it but the book's plots fucking suck and the secondary artist is awful. It deserves to be cancelled.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:39:07 No.77015928 Report Delete

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>>77015882
He doesn't have a spike-suit in the current run anymore.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:39:25 No.77015934 Report Delete

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>>77015882
The chinspike suit is gone and he has a much better redesign now

>>77015905
nah

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:42:45 No.77016001 Report Delete

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>>77015905
Nah man, nah.

The writing/dialogue is great, the action is very good and I find the whole God Garden plot intriguing. The constant changing of artists is a bit annoying, but Mooney wasn't that bad in my opinion. The only issue I thought suffered because of the art was the second one.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:43:26 No.77016009 Report Delete

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>>77015882
>You mean it fell to shit after the God Butcher arc?

Anon...

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:44:39 No.77016031 Report Delete

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>>77015485
Why should the company of publication matter if the content is good?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:46:29 No.77016067 Report Delete

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>>77015928
>>77015934
Oh, I know they brought back the classic design, I've picked up every issue so far.
I just meant the redesign sort of off-putting.
Like, the dude's brain already tells him every possible way to kill someone every second so why does he need a suit with pointy bits?
He is the pointy bit!

>>77016009
Shh! Let me remain pure.
It was so perfect, Ribic's art worked beautifully, Aaron really nailed that prose-style of writing I love to see in Thor.
Guess you can't hit them all out of the park.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:47:30 No.77016081 Report Delete

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>>77015358

I recently finished both Vision & Scarlet Witch series. First one was cool, the second was pure shit. Finished it because Vision, and to see the birth of Wiccan and Speed, or their first incarnation. Shit's confusing.

Also, young avengers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:51:57 No.77016158 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77016178 >>77016306 >>77016456

>>77015358

For backstory:
Kree-Skrull War
Vision and the Scarlet Witch
Avengers West Coast 42-45
Fantastic Four 277
Avengers West Coast 61-62
House of M

Their actual shit:
Young Avengers Volume 1
Civil War: Young Avengers vs Runaways
Civil War (Main book)
Young Avengers Presents: Wiccan and Speed
Young Avengers Presents: Hulkling
Dark Reign: Young Avengers
Secret Invasion: Young Avengers
Young Avengers: Siege
Young Avengers Volume 2 (Which is shit)
New Avengers (Al Ewing)

Young Avengers Volume 2 is widely regarded as shit by /co/, just so you know.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:53:28 No.77016178 Report Delete

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>>77016158
Also stick Avengers: the Children's Crusade in there before Young Avengers vol 2 which goes up and down between entertaining and shit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:59:23 No.77016278 Report Delete

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>>77016031
because i dont like the characters or universe of one company as much as the other.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:00:47 No.77016306 Report Delete

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>>77016158
thank you based anon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:05:29 No.77016384 Report Delete

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>>77016278
You should really get over that.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:06:10 No.77016395 Report Delete

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>>77016384
im good. i have absolutely no interest in DC personally.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:07:09 No.77016411 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77016456 >>77016621

>>77016081

Not so hard tho

>Wanda is nexus being
>Immortus helps Wanda marry Vision because he knows her kids would be mind blowing powerful
>Wanda, mainly, and Vision want kids.
>Vision inserts plastic peepee in Wanda's magical vagoo
>Vision cums nano-bot plastic sperms
>Nothing happens because not human sperm
>Wanda wishes she'd be mother so hard, she uses ¿without even knowing? her ability manipulation/reality warping powers so that the miracle happens and she gets pregnant.
>Dr Strange is a fgt and helps her give birth but says nothing about how weird and nasty this is. Agatha Harkness is dead or some shit
>Babys disappear when Wanda's not thinking of them, because they exist only when she is using part of the power
>Mephisto makes em disappear because the "magical energy" from where they were created came from him OR SO
>She forgets she had kids, nigger mom mode, because somehow she made Agatha Harkness come back to life, and she made her forget she had childs, just in case.
>Years pass, lazy writers like Bendis mess up even more an already messed up continuity
>The kids reincarnated in Wiccan and Speed, wich happen to have the powers of mom and uncle (Pietro)

It's all a bad case of continuity + lame writers

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:09:16 No.77016456 Report Delete

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>>77016411

Is all that explained in >>77016158 ?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:12:50 No.77016527 Report Delete

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>>77016456
Yes. However Vision's the one who was fucking baby crazy. Wanda actually didn't want kids.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:17:42 No.77016621 Report Delete

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>>77016527
>>77016456
>>77016411
Actually, reading even further, it's all wrong. Wanda didn't want kids, Vision was baby crazy but Wanda did some big deed that allowed her to make a wish through benevolent means. For Vision's sake she wished to have children.

Afterwards she went to Strange and explicitly asked "Yo this thing is a magic baby and that might mean demons I'm not having demon babies am I?" And Strange was all like "nah you're fine" and so was Agatha Harkness (two of the most powerful mages in Marvel at the time).

Then Byrne got ahold of the WCA and was weirded out that a human could ever love a robot so he made Vision emotionless and said Master Pandemonium had tricked Wanda and filled her belly with Mephisto soul shards and then he came to reclaim them and the retardation just spiraled from there.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:35:45 No.77016974 Report Delete

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>>77016621

Fucking Byrne I'd stab him to death

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