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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:02:19 No.77021108 View Reply Report Delete

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I think gravity falls finally surpassed Avatar as the better cartoon.
What do you guys think

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:07:08 No.77021215 Report Delete

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>>77021108
It already was by being consistently good. Book one of Avatar stumbled while trying to find its tone and season three is not as good as two.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:09:20 No.77021251 Report Delete

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>>77021108
It's already miles better that Korra aka WHORRA.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:11:24 No.77021299 Report Delete

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But Avatar was not that great. There, I said it. Also go back to your containment general.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:12:03 No.77021313 Report Delete

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>>77021108
Hirsch is an overrated hack

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:12:23 No.77021325 Report Delete

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>>77021299
>actually supporting generals
Kill yourself.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:15:17 No.77021378 Report Delete

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>>77021325
>Wanting autist to spread to all the threads

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:15:40 No.77021388 Report Delete

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>>77021299
this post is bait do not reply to it guys

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:16:09 No.77021400 Report Delete

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>>77021313
S3 announcement when, Alex?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:16:36 No.77021411 Report Delete

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>>77021378
Only Avatards ever did that.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:17:10 No.77021428 Report Delete

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>>77021108
>better than Avatar: the last airbender
absolutely not. Not in a million years.

>better than Korra
since episode one

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:17:41 No.77021440 Report Delete

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>>77021428
>absolutely not. Not in a million years.
why

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:20:16 No.77021499 Report Delete

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>>77021313
Stay mad Rebeca Sugar.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:20:59 No.77021515 Report Delete

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>>77021411
>What is /sug/

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:23:27 No.77021576 Report Delete

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Superior Dorito coming in.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:24:37 No.77021613 Report Delete

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>>77021576
Superior superior dorito standing by

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:25:39 No.77021639 Report Delete

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>>77021515
You mean those tumblrfaggots that mods promptly dealt with?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:26:03 No.77021647 Report Delete

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>>77021108
>western animshit
>good

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:26:08 No.77021654 Report Delete

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Better than the first and third seasons, yes.

Season two of Avatar is still amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:26:48 No.77021672 Report Delete

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>>77021576
I've seen this guy a lot, who is he?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:27:01 No.77021676 Report Delete

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The first part of this finale was disappointing. The Tale of Two Stans really should've been the finale.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:27:14 No.77021684 Report Delete

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>>77021613
she's diamond shaped and 3D you goof

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:27:46 No.77021698 Report Delete

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>>77021108
>western animshit
>jap animshit
>any animshit
>good
pick one you fuckheads

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:28:11 No.77021706 Report Delete

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>>77021676
It was enjoyable. Although I always found lore part to be pretty weak.

I hope more characters will get to participate in the next episode.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:28:28 No.77021714 Report Delete

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>>77021676
That boring exposition episode? Nah.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:28:43 No.77021720 Report Delete

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>>77021108
avatar has nostalgia value in and of itself now so people will no doubt defend it.
I prefer GF, but am a sucker for lore.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:29:45 No.77021755 Report Delete

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>>77021714
It wasn't exposition if you're into lore. Raised more questions than it answered.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:30:06 No.77021761 Report Delete

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>>77021647
>>77021698
Did I miss a new meme or something?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:30:11 No.77021762 Report Delete

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>>77021672
He's a character from a vidya called Nuclear Throne.

He's a Gun God. He likes airhorns and lodsemone

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:30:47 No.77021773 Report Delete

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>>77021698
>animshit

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:32:16 No.77021804 Report Delete

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So is Justin Roiland on suicide watch after the second season of his show sucked dick, but the show hes guest staring on now and then is blowing everything else out of the fucking water while being in Disney channel and being more adult and mature at the same time?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:33:21 No.77021826 Report Delete

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>>77021804
Literally none of that is true but he's probably on suicide watch yes

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:33:45 No.77021836 Report Delete

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>>77021755
Those who were into lore already figured out most of the things from that episode, I understand that it was necessary to clarify some things but it wasn't really all that exciting in execution. At least this first episode of the finale was more unpredictable.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:34:02 No.77021843 Report Delete

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>>77021108
No. GF's moment to moment dialogue is really poor

This week's episode had 'highlights' such as

>Hey! That's it goat, it's time I threw you off this property for good
>On second thought I'm going to run like a coward now

Avatar may have fumbled the big picture but it was almost always fun and convincing to watch.

Also what was up with not changing the character palettes to match the scene's lighting?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:38:28 No.77021943 Report Delete

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>>77021843
GF's comedy is better than Avatar's

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:40:54 No.77022005 Report Delete

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Avatar/Korra try too hard to be "artsy" and forget how to just be fun cartoons.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:41:12 No.77022011 Report Delete

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has alex found the formula for a perfect cartoon? is Gravity Falls the perfect combination of plot development, character likeability, voice acting, writing and illustration? is this the height of "deepest lore"?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:42:16 No.77022028 Report Delete

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I wouldn't go that far, it still has a couple misses from time to time.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:42:51 No.77022042 Report Delete

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>>77021943
But Avatar does plenty of other things a lot better. One big example being the drama, another being character development.

GF is hampered by there being too inconsistent with plot progression. The plot moves swiftly and fiercely in one episode, then there's several episodes of mundane filler that has only a vague connection to the story arc.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:42:58 No.77022046 Report Delete

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>>77021836
Idk if this makes me an authority of any kind, but I'm big into the lore. You're not wrong, but stan kept a lot of secrets in his retelling. Not one mention of Bill and very little about mcgucket. No mention of the blind eye, and still leaving holes around Dipper and Mabel's family. I think stan's retelling will be revisited to reveal some of what he omitted, I have a feeling we're going to see a massive parallel plot that stan's kept secret, and that episode functioned to introduce us to some critical locations from stan's past. Could be wrong, but it wasn't the end-all closure ep some make it out to be. The twist was foreshadowed, but it certainly didn't have all the answers.

Knowing of all the stan-bill parallels, I think there's still a LOT of grunk's past we haven't explored and that episode just introduced us to the vital points that Ford couldn't dispute on the spot.

>>77022011
It's got the best written siblings and the best lore that I know of

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:43:25 No.77022060 Report Delete

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>>77022028
But when it does it is still funny, when Avatar misses is boring or retarded
see: The great divide, The painted lady

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:44:02 No.77022077 Report Delete

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>>77022028
>I wouldn't go that far, it still has a couple misses from time to time

It's the guy's first show and besides, Disney forces him to constrain his vision somewhat.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:44:27 No.77022085 Report Delete

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>>77022042
>several episodes of mundane filler that has only a vague connection
And avatar doesn't?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:44:46 No.77022089 Report Delete

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>>77022060
I find GF a lot funnier and more down to earth than avatar. Mostly thanks to the setting, but the stupid sound effects really make it more childish. Both have to go for the cheap jokes occasionally, but things like Stan's wit are just cash.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:45:39 No.77022101 Report Delete

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>>77022085
It does happen, but it's nowhere near as jarring.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:46:34 No.77022127 Report Delete

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>>77022085
Avatar is far guiltier of extended irrelevant episodes. Obviously if you're a big enough fan of either show you can name something vital in each ep, but both work as a whole. The difference is that avatar is long as fuck and feels more drawn out as it's tied together by character dev. and not 'events' that are time-sensitive other than the over-arcing threats.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:48:33 No.77022176 Report Delete

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GF at least feels like its own thing and not some faggots who really wanted to be the American Miyazaki.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:49:32 No.77022206 Report Delete

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>>77022101
>The fortune teller
>The great divide
>Bato of the water tribe
>The headband
>The painted lady

>not jarring

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:50:10 No.77022226 Report Delete

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>>77022176
I thought Disney was the American Miyazaki.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:50:21 No.77022229 Report Delete

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>>77022089
this was poorly worded. What I mean to say is that GF's setting and characters are easier to associate with, and Avatar's fictional backstory and setting make it all the more out of reach. Avatar's comic relief is more formulaic, while GFs relies on subverting tropes and comes across more unexpectedly.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:50:24 No.77022230 Report Delete

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>>77022206
>nowhere near as jarring
Can you not into reading comprehension?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:51:06 No.77022250 Report Delete

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>>77021108
Gravity Falls is a lot a better than Avatar, but I'm not as attached to it.
Maybe it's nostalgia or I just like the world/characters better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:51:21 No.77022255 Report Delete

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>>77022077
>It's the guy's first show
Man nobody would be saying that if they shat on Steven universe let's be fair.

>Disney forces him to constrain his vision somewhat
Although that is true but that's more "You can't show two ladies kissing" than "You need to make Gideon a good guy with an impassioned speech" or "We need MORE episodes about Dipper not putting his dick in Wendy"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:52:13 No.77022279 Report Delete

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>>77022206
Literally the only bad episode from all those was the great divide tbh

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:52:21 No.77022285 Report Delete

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>>77021251
>WHORRA

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:53:03 No.77022310 Report Delete

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>>77022250
Avatar has more expansive lore while GF's is more intricate, what you get invested in just depends on your taste I guess.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:01:20 No.77022372 Report Delete

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>>77022310
Yeah, it's weird to acknowledge.
I would've never thought about the fact that I like ATLA better than Gravity Falls.
They're very different shows though.

Gravity Falls is Twin Peaks meets the X-Files while Avatar is like, well, I don't know what to compare Avatar too.
Journey to the West meets Captain Planet?
Or maybe Ghibli meets Gainax.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:02:45 No.77022409 Report Delete

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>>77022372
It's more like lord of the rings meets tengen toppa era gainax

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:02:45 No.77022410 Report Delete

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What the fuck is Bill supposed to be?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:03:11 No.77022424 Report Delete

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>>77022176
I agree. Avatar is too pretentious and tryhard for me.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:03:13 No.77022428 Report Delete

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>>77022410
Chaos God

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:03:36 No.77022439 Report Delete

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I like GF and generally find the humor much better, but Avatar was on another level (in Airbender), in my opinion.

GF smooshed the planned second and third seasons together into one and it suffers for it.

I do want to see if GF sticks the landing because like a lot of people I was seriously dissapointed by the Aang ending. I have some big issues with last night's episode but this is only part one of maybe a four parter so there's time to address those issues...maybe.

I plan to be let down again just like Avatar. But no, I think Legend of Aang was a better show overall, though I enjoy GF. If the finale is amazing for GF I might revise this opinion a bit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:04:19 No.77022454 Report Delete

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>>77022206
I thought we hated episodes that were bad, not ones thst didn't focus on lore. The only bad one of out those is The Great Divide.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:04:40 No.77022467 Report Delete

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I really don't like Avatar's art style. Something about it doesn't "click" with me.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:04:59 No.77022474 Report Delete

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>>77022410
Discord from MLP.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:05:09 No.77022478 Report Delete

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>>77022409
I haven't seen either of those.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:05:16 No.77022481 Report Delete

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>>77022176
Gravity Falls feels like the 'best of' Saturday morning cartoons and late 80's early 90's kids movies.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:05:26 No.77022483 Report Delete

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>>77022454
>bato of the water tribe
>not a turd with out of character moments at every minute

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:06:07 No.77022500 Report Delete

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>>77022410

And eldritch abomination/god of chaos.

Which is why I'm worried about how he's defeated, I feel like it will be shit, we'll see.

After this last episode I kind of did wish this was a more PG rated series so more creepy and less wacky could be in it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:06:56 No.77022524 Report Delete

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Gravity Falls has been for a while. This is the first cartoon ever I can watch and be entirely engaged. It's just like my live action dramas (almost).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:08:31 No.77022565 Report Delete

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>>77022474

Bill when he's good is what I wish Discord had been, he's legitimately terrifying. It's quite an achievement but a delicate balance and it doesn't always work. When it does, I honestly do think he's one of the best animated villains in decades.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:09:47 No.77022599 Report Delete

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I can acknowledge that Gravity Falls is really good, but I'd also be lying if I said I was invested.

I suppose if there was one criticism it might be the characterisation.
Everyone's likeable and very entertaining but I'd be lying if I said that I found anyone apart from Grunkle Stan interesting.

Without that interest I really find it difficult to care as much about what's going on. Then the hype can just kill at times.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:11:07 No.77022627 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77022763

I'm not a big fan of the "weirdocalypse", it's discord all over again. The designs of the monsters aren't too good either.

That alternate intro was pretty cool, though.

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Scrapper !!AJ15d2+xYas Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:11:53 No.77022644 Report Delete

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I think .GIFfany didn't deserve to die.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:13:46 No.77022698 Report Delete

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>>77022644
I will tell you who is in lower case you fucking manlet

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:14:15 No.77022713 Report Delete

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>>77021108
I dunno. I still consider Gargoyles better than Gravity Falls.
But then is Gargoyles better than ATLA?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:14:45 No.77022728 Report Delete

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>>77022410
A triangle.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:15:06 No.77022735 Report Delete

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>>77022483
Wait I haven't watched in a while, why is Bato of the Water Tribe so bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:15:41 No.77022748 Report Delete

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There's an episode.
It might be the one with the pterodactyl.
Soos orders arm pants and the voice on the commercial sounded a lot like Justin Roiland's.
Was that one of the advertisements they included in Rixty Minutes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:16:10 No.77022763 Report Delete

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>>77022627

Although I think the designs of the monsters are fine, I find the "weird shit runs around" very boring already, too.

I'm hoping this is the end of that and the other phases of Bill's plan are more interesting and menacing but I'm not holding my breath.

I figured this would happen but the shit I imagined over the silent credits to DaMvtF was better, with all the screaming and helicopters in the distance.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:29:07 No.77023013 Report Delete

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>>77021313
Fuck you Justin

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:33:46 No.77023105 Report Delete

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>>77022410
An adorable bishie.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:39:37 No.77023193 Report Delete

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>>77021943
B U L L S H I T

GF "Comedy" is about as trash as "lol I did the thing, did you see it xD! Do I have to point it out again?" Literally the equivalent of a writer forgetting the joke he writes every half-second

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:41:36 No.77023226 Report Delete

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>>77023193
Maybe you should elaborate more instead of typing nonsense? Maybe provide some examples?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:41:50 No.77023237 Report Delete

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Something just feels rushed about this weirdmageddon stuff. Like as soon as season 1 ended, we just had to completely throw away the small town comfyness and rush the plot out as soon as possible. Reminds me of Young Justice how it started a little too slow and then season 2 rolled around and they put a hyperdrive on everything to the point where your head just spins. Mabel being sad about summer break ending feels weird when summer break hasn't felt like summer break in a while.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:43:22 No.77023270 Report Delete

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>>77023193
>You know, studies show that keeping a ladder inside the house is more dangerous than a loaded gun. That’s why I own 10 guns—in case some maniac tries to sneak in a ladder!

whatever you say, salty anon. I'm sorry you prefer quirky sound fx and to accompany your overdone jokes.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:43:29 No.77023274 Report Delete

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>>77023226

He just showed one. The goat scene was horrendous, you don't NEED to have a guy spell out the irony after the goat grows giant.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:45:27 No.77023307 Report Delete

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>>77021108
1000000000x better than avatar/korra combined m8. Fuck that western anime bullshit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:46:04 No.77023324 Report Delete

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i've never really liked avatar so i have to go with gravity falls

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:46:16 No.77023327 Report Delete

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>>77023237
I think that's also a product of the airing schedule. We have so long between eps, if one picks up it just doesn't seem continuous. IMO it doesn't feel rushed, it just feels like summer's ending.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:46:35 No.77023336 Report Delete

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>>77021108
Gravity Falls is really bad.

Best thing about it is the backgrounds.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:46:57 No.77023346 Report Delete

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>>77023237
They're squeezing what would have been season 3 in the second half of season 2.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:48:27 No.77023389 Report Delete

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>>77023336
It does have pretty backgrounds

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:52:01 No.77023452 Report Delete

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>>77023327
Yeah, the hiatuses almost killed the show for me.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:54:19 No.77023494 Report Delete

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>>77023226
This: >>77023274, and if you need another example

>weird wave rushes town
>cuts to Soos and his grandma
>grandma gets turned to chair
>"OMG GRANDMA, U JUST TURNED INTO A CHAIR~~"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:56:07 No.77023535 Report Delete

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>>77023494
This reminds me of Family Guy. But I havent't watched FG for a long time.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:57:27 No.77023564 Report Delete

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>>77022410

My husubando.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:57:55 No.77023573 Report Delete

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>>77021440
It's too light for emotional beats to hit as hard as they should. You barely have the time to process truly heavy moments before the next gag comes through. The only times they really came through were with Mabel's moping in Time Traveler's Pig and the end credits in Dipper and Mabel vs. The Future. This is because they were allowed to linger for at least a moment.

Never in ATLA would the script race to the next event or gag. It breathed and its pacing was stronger for it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:58:10 No.77023577 Report Delete

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>>77021943
I don't really find GF's comedy that hilarious. I mean I'll laugh but very rarely bust a gut watching GF.

>>77023226
Not the same guy but GF's comedy is the type that uses a lot of exaggerated behaviour and line delivery, and the occasional non sequitur.

Not that it's bad but it doesn't do that much for me as it does others.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:59:41 No.77023609 Report Delete

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>>77023346
Is there any indication of WHY it's being squeezed in?
Hirsch getting bored?
Disney wanting to kick him out?
Something else?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:01:05 No.77023638 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024114

Did Gravity Falls get good again?

The first few episodes of season 2 were very boring. So I ended up dropping it. Is it safe to pick it up again?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:01:29 No.77023644 Report Delete

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>>77023573

The pacing is weird.

The few great minutes of GF are really great.

End of NWHS and DaMvTF.

I always get the sense maybe the creator wanted to/wants to make something more adult but it gets dragged into Phineas and Ferb cartoon goofiness and kills the impact of some things that would be great.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:01:53 No.77023653 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77023728 >>77023767

Avatar as a whole? Nah. GF has a rich lore, but Avatar had such a rich world, cast of characters, and history infused into it. It's like comparing Twin Peaks to Game of Thrones.

Korra though? Fucking Clarence is on track to be better.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:06:14 No.77023728 Report Delete

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>>77023653
> GF has a rich lore
Why the fuck do people keep saying this

There being some monsters in the forest for no reason isn't a "lore".

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:08:16 No.77023767 Report Delete

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>>77023653
But Twin Peaks is better than Game of Thrones. GoT gets by on schemes, sex, and violence. Not strong characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:09:25 No.77023788 Report Delete

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>>77021762
>vidya
Fuck off back to >>>/v/edditendoGAF with your manbaby hobby and let the adults talk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:09:55 No.77023801 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77023960

>>77023609
Hirsch said he moved forwards NWHS because fans were figuring out stuff. It may be that the third season got shunted into the second along with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:11:45 No.77023843 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77025496

>>77023728
The history of the Pines family has a lot of foreshadowing and clues throughout the series. That's lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:13:56 No.77023877 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77023928 >>77023960

>>77023609
>Is there any indication of WHY it's being squeezed in?
>Hirsch getting bored?
>Disney wanting to kick him out?

There's nothing concrete. But Alex has stated in interviews that he's determined to follow a set plot progression for the show, and that they have a policy of treating each season like it might be their last. Considering how slow Disney was to renew GF after the first season (they waited until production was complete and 3/4ths of it had aired) it might be that Alex spooked while producing season 2. Maybe he tried to fit at least the most critical events he had planned so that viewers wouldn't be left hanging if the show ended there.

Alex has also expressed a lot of frustration with certain aspects of Disney's TV department: namely the bizarre scheduling decisions and constant, heavy pushback from Standards and Practices. He talks a lot about how he'd like his next show to be for older audiences, and I get the impression he feels creatively stifled by Gravity Falls' rating. He might just be fed up with the struggle and ready to move on to something else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:14:33 No.77023887 Report Delete

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>>77023193
That's the case about half the time and it bugs me too. Some of the times I feel like they do it ironically, like over explain the joke as a joke, but that only works so many times.
>>77023226
One good example is the 90s D&D&D joke. Ok, we got the joke from the first line. Ok, dedicating a whole skit to the commercial for it, fine. Doesn't add much to the joke but sure. Ok, now we have Dipper and Stanford stopping to explain the joke before going on. Great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:16:37 No.77023928 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024281

>>77023877
Alex has also expressed a lot of frustration with certain aspects of Disney's TV department: namely the bizarre scheduling decisions and constant, heavy pushback from Standards and Practices. He talks a lot about how he'd like his next show to be for older audiences, and I get the impression he feels creatively stifled by Gravity Falls' rating. He might just be fed up with the struggle and ready to move on to something else.

But that's everywhere. Regular Show was softened as well after the first few seasons. Didn't Hirsch state in an interview at the start of the series that he was surprised how much freedom Disney was giving him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:18:02 No.77023960 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024405

>>77023801
>>77023877
Interesting on both departments. I saw the S&P video over spin the bottle (which makes the spin the human reference from this recent episode hilarious) and the scheduling is definitely fucked.

I think I saw in an earlier thread that Disney technically has the rights if they want to make another season without Hirsch, but where you go? It's supposed to be the story of a couple of kids and their adventures over a summer. Remove the summer and how does that play out with adventures outside in Oregon as the temperature falls and they need to go to school? I just don't see how you could have another season. If Hirsch leaves, I definitely don't want a third season, and even if he stays, given their seeming aggressiveness at trying to tie up the major plot points, I'm not really sure I'd want another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:18:09 No.77023968 Report Delete

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>>77021762
>referencing the Illuminati Confirmed meme in your game

Mark of quality right there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:18:49 No.77023981 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024143 >>77024202 >>77024205

Could Avatar get away with something like this?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O96Jure38bA

I don't think Nick has the balls to let something like this get on the air. Alex Hirsch must have sucked some dicks at Disney to let this get on the air

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:21:10 No.77024030 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024127

>>77023237
This is really funny given how people were complaining that Season 1 moved too slow and got caught up in everything but the weird and the journals.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:21:23 No.77024034 Report Delete

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>>77021576
Best

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:22:03 No.77024047 Report Delete

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>>77022410
Eye of Providence

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:24:50 No.77024108 Report Delete

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>>77023728
shit man we're talking native american symbolism with explicit connection to the story, reference to greek and roman mythology, hidden ciphers, foreshadowing like you don't even know, hidden double meanings in even the cryptic messages themselves, background continuity points of massive significance, bible references, ceaser ciphers, vigenere ciphers, atbash ciphers, bill ciphers, the list goes on homie. It goes beyond framescrubbing style reveals though, characters have backstories and hidden motives and keep secrets from one another. Avatar had an immersive world, but the details are sparse if you see what I mean. This town has a history just as rich, but it's all tightly interconnected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:25:19 No.77024114 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024271

>>77023638
If you like plot heavy episodes, yes.
The first half of season 2 is a mix of light hearted episodes and lore, and then it slowly spirals into insanity.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:26:12 No.77024127 Report Delete

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>>77024030
I've never insulted the pacing of a fun show like this and hate people crying filler. If you only watched for the "plot" of Gravity Falls during season 1, you showed up for like 10% of the show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:26:47 No.77024143 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024788 >>77025177 >>77032488

>>77023981
The entire episode was pretty ridiculous from an S&P perspective, shit was off the chain.
>word death used several times
>horrifying face on Preston Northwest
>all the time people and time baby getting blasted into oblivion
>Toby had an arrow in arm
>Wendy broke someones arm on-screen
>that weird fucking head asking people to get in its mouth
>"hide the time juice!" (drug reference when the time police show up)
>spin the human (Alex finally got his spin the bottle joke) plus lazy susan being rotated as the spun human (good double meaning)

but hey, when gideon was put in the baby seat of the car, he wore a seatbelt tightly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:29:33 No.77024202 Report Delete

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>>77023981
Avatar never really wanted to. Given that Nick lets TMNT do that kind of stuff all the time, they probably could have.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:29:51 No.77024205 Report Delete

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>>77023981
there was that whole bloodbending thing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:30:17 No.77024212 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024247

>>77023494
That's just soos.

Avatar's humor is childish, it's just stupid facial expressions and sfx. Some of grunk's lines are gold.
Humor comes from more than just lines though, but watching avatar I got tired of a lot of it just being comic relief from aang. In GF they do lean on the weirdness from time to time, but in and of itself it's less formulaic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:32:16 No.77024247 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024284

>>77024212
>Humor comes from more than just lines though, but watching avatar I got tired of a lot of it just being comic relief from aang.
Did you even watch the show? By the second season, Sokka and Toph provided a lot more of the comic relief than Aang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:33:41 No.77024271 Report Delete

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>>77024114

That's good to hear.

Thank anon.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:34:04 No.77024281 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024806

>>77023928
>Didn't Hirsch state in an interview at the start of the series that he was surprised how much freedom Disney was giving him?

I don't think he was referring to censorship there. At the top level, Disney has been supportive of some of his more risky choices for the show: the 30 minute format, the plot continuity elements, etc. In that sense, they put a lot of faith in him in spite of his ideas running counter to common wisdom in the industry.

What really seems to have worn him down is the struggle to balance what he considers more human, relatable comedy with what Disney TV censors deem child friendly.

If you're interested, an interview just came out yesterday in which he goes into some detail about all this:
http://www.craveonline.com/culture/916253-b-movies-podcast-secrets-gravity-falls-alex-hirsch
The relevant segment starts at 22:48.

A couple of his answers in his AMA on reddit also elaborated on the difficulties he's had with Disney.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:34:16 No.77024284 Report Delete

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>>77024247
Yes, I'm just saying that there was so much Aang in s1 and 2 alone that it got tiresome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:35:47 No.77024315 Report Delete

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Better level of consistency though this whole weirdmagedon is a bit weak but for story and characters no

Avatar's highs are also way higher

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:40:49 No.77024405 Report Delete

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>>77023960
>Disney technically has the rights if they want to make another season without Hirsch, but where you go?

Nowhere good.

I'd say the safest option would be a series of oneshot specials rather than a full season. Limit the stories to "lost episode" type material that fills in some of the blanks in the twins' summer rather than trying to fight against whatever closure the finale will achieve.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:43:42 No.77024458 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024554

>>77021215
>season three is not as good as two
this guy

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:47:37 No.77024554 Report Delete

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>>77024458
It's not. It suffered too much from insisting on Day of the Black Sun being the middle of the season.The result was the first half dragging its feet and the second half rushing to get everything done before the finale.

Like, I don't even have a problem with the early season 3 episodes, but moving some of them to after Day of the Black Sun would have done wonders for the season.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:51:27 No.77024648 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77024818 >>77024998 >>77028085

I think BTAS is better than both Avatar and GF. Call me a capefag but BTAS had a level of complexity that Avatar and GF a never reached

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:53:10 No.77024704 Report Delete

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>>77021108
Notice the music heard when the time police storms in is the music at the begining of "The fifth element" (in the Egyptian temple).
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmgywhXJmUY

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:56:18 No.77024788 Report Delete

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>>77024143

Not to mention Bill murdered a whole roomful of people onscreen including a baby.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:56:56 No.77024806 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77025247

>>77024281
Disney always did come off as more strict on content than Nick and CN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:57:20 No.77024818 Report Delete

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>>77024648

No reasonable person with halfway decent taste would EVER disagree with that statement.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:06:27 No.77024998 Report Delete

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>>77024648
There's an unspoken rule about not comparing things to Btas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:14:18 No.77025127 Report Delete

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>>77021299
Go suck a dick, Anthony Fantano.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:16:24 No.77025177 Report Delete

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>>77024143
>but hey, when gideon was put in the baby seat of the car, he wore a seatbelt tightly.

Being edgy and cool and violent is one thing but it's just ridiculous to not where a seatbelt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:19:22 No.77025247 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77025286

>>77024806
Which makes it even crazier what Gravity Falls is getting away with.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:21:04 No.77025286 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77025327

>>77025247
Have you seen the shit Star vs is doing?

I think Disney has lightened up a fair amount of late.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:23:22 No.77025327 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77025702

>>77025286
Disney is entering a new golden age by taking advantage of a less restricted premium cable channel

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:31:17 No.77025496 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77026062

>>77023843
It's foreshadowed in two episodes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:41:17 No.77025702 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77025757

>>77025327
I rejoice every time I wake up knowing I am waking into a world where Disney allows Star vs to get away with the shit it does

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:44:24 No.77025757 Report Delete

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>>77025702
Now if only it were funny.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:48:30 No.77025858 Report Delete

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>>77021108
Way to compare apples to oranges. You might've well have compared Scooby Doo to Ren and Stimpy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:51:05 No.77025918 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77026051

>>77025858
The fuck are you talking about, retard

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:56:21 No.77026051 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77026121

>>77025918
>Comparing Gravity Falls and Avatar
But sure, I'm the retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:56:39 No.77026062 Report Delete

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>>77025496
>>the history of the Pines family has a lot of foreshadowing
>It's foreshadowed in two episodes

A few more than two, friend.

Ford foreshadowing:
-STNLYMBL licence plate in Gobblewonker
-Stan's reaction to his wax figure in Headhunters
-Ford's appearance onscreen in The Time Traveller's Pig
-the glasses in Carpet Diem, and the existence of a hidden room full of personal effects
-Stan's nightmare in Dreamscaperers ("I'm so sorry"), the swings (they show up again in AToTS), and his memory of boxing lessons (Ford's in it)

Bill-Ford connection foreshadowing:
-everything in Journals about Bill
-triangles and all-seeing eyes all over the Shack
-Bill's response to Gideon's deal in Dreamscaperers
-the shape of the portal itself

I'm probably missing a bunch more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:59:07 No.77026121 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77026265

>>77026051
Yes, you are.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:03:27 No.77026265 Report Delete

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>>77026121
>Still responding

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:04:46 No.77026312 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77026413

Wait are people seriously comparing GF to ATLA?

GF isn't even as good as R&M or the first two seasons of Adventure Time.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:07:04 No.77026413 Report Delete

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>>77026312

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:08:17 No.77026476 Report Delete

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gravity fall was better than that overrated piece of weeaboo shit from the get-go

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:19:30 No.77026937 Report Delete

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>>77021576
Ca$h Money

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:20:52 No.77027001 Report Delete

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>>77021108
First season of the show was great. Everything from animation to writing was top notch. I marathoned it in one day. And I easely consider it as the best animation series at the time, although may be lacking something which would let me call this series my favorite.
The second season, howerver, underwent a serious quality drop in a plot department in my opinon. Jokes were hardly funny, as well as overall dereciton of the show wasn't quite interesting to my taste.
So no, I think it hasn't surapssed Avatar and I greatly dobut it ever will. But I guess to each his own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:25:46 No.77027216 Report Delete

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>>77022410
A Dorito with a fucking hat and an eye

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:40:21 No.77027836 Report Delete

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>>77021108
I'm hoping they keep using this intro for the rest of Weirdmageddon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:42:01 No.77027899 Report Delete

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>>77022206
I don't know who that is but I'm waifuing her now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:46:29 No.77028085 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77028759

>>77024648
Have you watched it lately?
Like a third of the episodes are just plain bad.

Indonesian gentleman

Indonesian gentleman Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:52:08 No.77028299 Report Delete

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>>77022410
Triangle man, triangle man

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:56:56 No.77028544 Report Delete

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I found mystery inc better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:59:26 No.77028663 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77028848

>>77021515
Don't forget Frozen.

And Homestuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:01:05 No.77028759 Report Delete

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>>77028085
Yeah, I'll admit that some of the episodes don't really hold up and the animation hasn't aged well. But it's still a solid show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:02:33 No.77028848 Report Delete

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>>77028663
Does MLPG still exist? I dare not go to /mlp/

And holy shit /ksg/ has to be the most autistic thing ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:02:47 No.77028861 Report Delete

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What do you mean finally?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:39:09 No.77032488 Report Delete

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>>77024143
>>that weird fucking head asking people to get in its mouth
And he succeded on that. Remember that car that he ate?

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