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>Goes through 4 Robins in five years
>Dick leaves to be his own man
>Jason, killed and brought back
>Tim, don't even know what his back story is anymore
>Damian, killed and brought back

Can't keep any of his sidekicks from getting killed or leaving soon. Batman sucks as a mentor.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:10:27 No.77023810 Report Delete

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Good mentor, but Snyder's Batman has hidden like 50 things from everyone that could result in their death. Seriously, every story he's written has had some deep secret years ago that comes back to haunt them and the entire Batfamily hates him because of it. Happening again in Batman and Robin Eternal.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:10:31 No.77023812 Report Delete

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>>77023524
No he's the best, he's the best at everything.

Blessed are the children touched by the Batgod.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:42:56 No.77024444 Report Delete

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>>77022012
How many have died or have issues with him?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:45:46 No.77024510 Report Delete

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>>77022597
I'll always feel bad for Kyle on that one.

>Massive Superfag
>Batman creeps him the fuck out
>Superman doesn't particularly like or trust Kyle, Batman takes him in and mentors him with Dinah.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:51:06 No.77024640 Report Delete

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>>77023286
It's comics. That's par for the course

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:58:53 No.77024852 Report Delete

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>>77022012
Yes, but he's the only game in town when it comes to young people learning how to be a superhero. Mostly because he runs off any metahuman heroes that he comes across.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:03:20 No.77024941 Report Delete

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>>77022721
Vegeta is a great father.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:04:48 No.77024963 Report Delete

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>>77022012
Some of the dead and cucked sidekicks would say yes, yes he is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:05:46 No.77024982 Report Delete

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>>77024510
>>77022597
...who the fuck is Kyle? Kyle Rayner? Are there any comics that demonstrate their relationship, cuz this is the first I've heard of it?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:06:53 No.77025003 Report Delete

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>>77024982
Morrison's JLA.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:10:04 No.77025058 Report Delete

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>>77024852
>Mostly because he runs off any metahuman heroes that he comes across.
How hilarious would it be for Batman, after Damian gets stale, to go out looking for another Robin and after finding the perfect little street urchin that looks exactly like him at that age somehow, he starts to train him but after like a year, the Robin develops metahuman powers and can suddenly do everything in a second with no problems. Batman tries to send him away, but Robin's grown too attached to Bruce and Gotham, so you have this situation where Batman arrives to every crime scene already solved and feels hugely inadequate compared to his ex-sidekick who wont stop invalidating all of Bruce's training and money?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:22:29 No.77025312 Report Delete

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>>77023337
>Dick becomes a popular superhero on his own and is now a sexy super secret agent
>Jason is now teamed up with Roy that he has bro adventures with
>Tim would be doing great if he wasn't part of the TT and was back with Batman
>Damian has his own ongoing now

Being a Robin is tough but it has its perks and a high success rate.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:46:44 No.77025808 Report Delete

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Would never happen. DC won't let anyone outshine their Batgod.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:54:07 No.77025989 Report Delete

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You guys just don't understand the relationship between Bruce and the Robins. It's too deep for you.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:56:44 No.77026064 Report Delete

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>>77025989
>I'm not your friend buddy!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:01:35 No.77026195 Report Delete

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>>77025312
>Tim's life basically sucks right now

How do we save him?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:03:34 No.77026272 Report Delete

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>>77026195
Make him a rapist that only rapes flying themed superheroes and villains

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:05:13 No.77026333 Report Delete

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>>77022012
Generally no. However, Snyder has a particular hard on for bringing out skeletons in the closet.

Teaching through tough love can work really well. You just have to manage it well enough to prevent resentment or outright hatred from your student. Bruce sometimes lacks this depending on continuity. (B:TAS Bats ended up losing part of his humanity as time went on for example)

On a separate issue, the 4 Robins thing really needs to be retconned in some way. Especially if Bruce has only been active as Batman for 5 years.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:09:27 No.77026526 Report Delete

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>>77026195
Get him away from the Teen Titans permanently. That franchise is dead in comics.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:10:00 No.77026544 Report Delete

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>>77023286
Bruce hits Dick all the time. NW 30 wasn't the first time.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:10:53 No.77026601 Report Delete

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>>77024982
The whole JLA, Batman pretty much takes Kyle under his wing, teach him self respect and that he doesnt need to live under the shadow of Hal Jordan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:12:29 No.77026661 Report Delete

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>>77026544
Is not the hits m8, is that dick was fucking batman twice. And already proved he was competent, Forever Evil ending was to make Lex the hero while shitting on the rest of the Batfamily.

We are talking about dick grayson, he was fighting meta-humans when he was 13.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:13:06 No.77026682 Report Delete

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:14:09 No.77026722 Report Delete

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>>77026333
>On a separate issue, the 4 Robins thing really needs to be retconned in some way. Especially if Bruce has only been active as Batman for 5 years.

Hasn't it? Someone catch me if I'm wrong but I remembering a timeline DC put out post Nu52 that had Bruce active for 10 years.

10 years makes FAR more sense with everything they've packed into the post flashpoint Batman.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:18:13 No.77026877 Report Delete

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>>77025312
>Jason is shitty and designed to appeal to boys who think teenage rebellion is cool and the teenage girls with daddy issues who date them.
>Roy lost all depth and character dimensions, becomes the idiot tech savant comedic relief.
>Tim has somehow gotten progressively worse with every series he's been in over the last 11 years.

Don't oversell it. Dick is in a rare spot with a really good title. Damian's book is forgettable fun with great art.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:18:44 No.77026910 Report Delete

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>>77026333
New canon is that Jason was only Robin for a max of 3 months before being killed. (Possibly less)

Tim started his Batman detective work and ended up becoming Robin not that long after. He was generally known as Robin, but apparently he and Bruce agreed to call the persona Red Robin instead of a full blown Robin.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:19:08 No.77026924 Report Delete

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>>77022012
When the last time Batman has a moment like this with his kids?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an_FKDkmnpI

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:21:02 No.77027009 Report Delete

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>>77026722

That timeline was wrong and mostly head-canon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:21:23 No.77027029 Report Delete

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>>77026722
>10 years makes FAR more sense with everything they've packed into the post flashpoint Batman.
It used to be almost 15, Superman and Batman were really close to 40.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:21:42 No.77027048 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77027116 >>77027460

>Bat training with Kyle
Yes that's it Kyle. Now let me study your ring so I can come up with a way to neutralize Hal.... in case he ever goes evil."

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:23:04 No.77027110 Report Delete

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>>77026910
This.

Damian is now the first long term serving Robin since Dick.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:23:13 No.77027116 Report Delete

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>>77027048
Kyle's ring, at least in the 90s, was keyed so that only he could use it. The Guardians made it that way so Hal couldn't steal it. Also his was the first ring that ran on a charge and not a time limit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:30:53 No.77027444 Report Delete

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>>77026722
10 years is my personal head canon. 5 years of being urban legend status. (Gordon knows but keeps it under wraps)

Then Darkseid invades and Batman is officially 'outed".

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:31:15 No.77027460 Report Delete

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>>77024982
>>77025003
>>77027048

Not just Morrison's JLA, Batman in JLA v3 was generally a source of support/tough love for Kyle.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:31:46 No.77027492 Report Delete

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>>77027460

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:38:08 No.77027765 Report Delete

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>>77027492
>>77027460
>Modern /co/ doesn't like Kyle.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:45:33 No.77028046 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77028379 >>77028878

>>77027765
Because he's been mediocre to downright shit for so long.

Kinda like Tim.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:54:05 No.77028379 Report Delete

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>>77028046
I'd only say the 2011-2014 period was in that range, which isn't that long at all considering some of /co/'s beloved characters that got dealt shit hands.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:03:09 No.77028878 Report Delete

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>>77027765
Kyle has been ass for ages.
>>77028046
This guy is spot on, but it goes deeper than what he said.

Kyle was popular as the only Green Lantern. The Corps didn't exist. Even Alan was going as Sentinel, not GL. Since the return of Hal and the other lanterns, writers have been trying to justify Kyle's existence. Fucking White Lantern? Seriously? His last title reeked of power level fan bullshit, because they couldn't think of an actual decent story to use him in. Same as Tim's stuff after Damian came around.

There's a whole generation of GL fans now who never read anything pre-Johns and don't give a shit about Kyle.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:41:37 No.77030515 Report Delete

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>>77028878
Ron Marz's Green Lantern was pretty bad, too. It's was JLA that made Kyle a relevant character. And even when Johns came back and made Hal the GREATEST GREEN LANTERN EVER, Kyle at least had good stories in Green Lantern Corps, until the New 52.

Then New Guardians went from inoffensively mediocre to Lobdell-tier fanfiction, and Kyle was undoubtedly the worst GL character (including Simon), until he got captured by the Omega Men. Now he's in the best GL book.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:16:03 No.77031787 Report Delete

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>>77024941
This is gold. I didn't know I wanted this.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:06:08 No.77033180 Report Delete

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>>77027460
>>77027492

I actually always liked that, those small moments were golden

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:10:44 No.77033292 Report Delete

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I think he did good.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:23:27 No.77033617 Report Delete

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>>77033292
>you are now like the most competent guy in the planet and kinda of a dick
>and you are a filthy junkie

wow

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:40:53 No.77034050 Report Delete

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>>77033292
Yeah
Does anyone happen to have the pages from this run where Dick threatens Superman? I think it was posted here a little while ago

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:58:24 No.77035587 Report Delete

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:00:53 No.77035630 Report Delete

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Kinda.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:10:52 No.77035841 Report Delete

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>>77035630
They get paid? I thought they do it for free.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:18:36 No.77036003 Report Delete

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>>77035841
Maybe Bruce he was firing him from being his son

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:26:12 No.77036163 Report Delete

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>>77036003
"Ward". I don't believe Dick was adopted until the 00s.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:31:34 No.77036262 Report Delete

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>>77036163
Ward, adoptive son, same difference

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:55:43 No.77036731 Report Delete

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>>77036262
Child soldier also works.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:10:46 No.77036964 Report Delete

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>>77026064
>not your buddy
Guy

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:12:25 No.77036991 Report Delete

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>>77036731
They are really pushing the child soldier angle hard in B&RE.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:34:57 No.77037350 Report Delete

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>>77036991
They're pushing a lot of things in BRE.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:38:35 No.77037396 Report Delete

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>>77036163
Actually, I think he only ever explicitly adopted Cass and Tim post-crisis.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 03:03:14 No.77037662 Report Delete

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>>77037396
No, Jason being adopted while not doing the same with Dick is something Bruce yelled at Dick about after Jason died.
And in Gotham Knights Bruce adopted Dick as an adult.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 03:08:30 No.77037714 Report Delete

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>>77037396

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