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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:39:45 No.77025670 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77025753 >>77025762 >>77034910 >>77034958 >>77040472 >>77042676

New Episode of The Muppets in twenty minutes or whatever fuck this shit is so fucking boring what a blunder zzzzzz.....

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:44:03 No.77025753 Report Delete

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>>77025670
this show is bad and I can't wait for the cancellation notice

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:44:43 No.77025762 Report Delete

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>>77025670
I saw it yesterday I wish it would decide it's audience full adult or full kid that half half is weird I wanted miss piggy to be bleeped or censored as a joke but then it didn't

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:49:55 No.77025892 Report Delete

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>>77025762
This....if it were the Muppet Show like the old days, where its in theaters and have guests.

Go full kid and show it on Disney.

HOWEVER, knowing its Disney....they would just turn it into another learning show instead if it was catered towards tweens and kids.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:50:59 No.77025915 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77026041 >>77026083 >>77026109

>>77025892
The Muppet Show wasn't "full kid." The adult humor went over your head.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:56:00 No.77026041 Report Delete

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>>77025915
The "adult" humor of the old shows was a lot more tame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:57:44 No.77026083 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77026194 >>77040194

>>77025915
I guess it did then.

Point being is this is a show about puppets being catered to an adult audience rather than kids.

And lets be honest....how many adult viewers are we honestly expecting to watch this?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:58:44 No.77026109 Report Delete

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>>77025915
What I mean is the older shows were always family humor it mixed in for everyone this new show doesn't seem to mix it
It has parts that seem to be for older audiences only then parts that seem to be for younger audiences only

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:01:33 No.77026194 Report Delete

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>>77026083
>Point being is this is a show about puppets being catered to an adult audience rather than kids.
>And lets be honest....how many adult viewers are we honestly expecting to watch this?
Ahem...AVENUE Q.
Look it up.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:02:49 No.77026241 Report Delete

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>>77026194
Then there's TV Funhouse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:03:12 No.77026255 Report Delete

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>>77026194
Crank Yankers

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:15:47 No.77026777 Report Delete

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>I have an associates degree, I use a towel.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:26:07 No.77027224 Report Delete

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ok, I'm done with this show

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:27:59 No.77027313 Report Delete

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>old white person rap
People thought this was a good idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:29:16 No.77027378 Report Delete

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I understood about 10% of what Miss Piggy said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:31:08 No.77027453 Report Delete

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>kid show does a white rap segment as if it's suppose to be cool
Those have cringed since the 80s

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:31:31 No.77027478 Report Delete

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Best. Apology. Ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:36:38 No.77027703 Report Delete

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>>77026194
I'llve give you that one.

I unno...maybe its a bias I grew up with. The idea that puppets, akin to cartoons was always going to be lumped in with being "for kids" only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:38:20 No.77027771 Report Delete

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>>77026255
>>77026241
>>77026194
And Dinosaurs, to an extent.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:56:28 No.77028523 Report Delete

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funny fozzie's making fun of his girlfriend's nose whistling when her eyes are so fucking far apart

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:58:03 No.77028584 Report Delete

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>>77027703
I keep hearing people reference this bias. I don't get it. the muppets have never been for kids..

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:05:37 No.77029002 Report Delete

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>>77027378
i was too busy wondering how she was being operated. was that radio control?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:11:37 No.77029285 Report Delete

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Aaaaftershooooock!

I agree that the rap was cringeworthy and hard to understand, but I still liked this episode.

Am I the only one who wants to see Piggy have a feud with a human female guest that ends with them making out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:16:51 No.77029514 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77029623 >>77030635

Weakest episode by far. What happened since the pilot? Did they dial back after the "complaints"?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:19:41 No.77029623 Report Delete

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>>77029514
These are all part of the same batch.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:44:35 No.77030635 Report Delete

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>>77029514
I think the main plot was ok, but both of the 'b' plots fell flat. I could see every part of the Rizzo's family running gag coming a mile away, and Fozzie's subplots have always been weak on this show (though it was nice to see that Fozzie's GF was still around). If they had axed the Scooter/Rizzo bits and escalated the feud between Reese and Piggy, it could have been funnier. It was a setup with potential.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:18:50 No.77031868 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77041637

Miss Piggy is so thoroughly unlikable on this show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:10:23 No.77034708 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77034869

>>77026041
Well, in the '70s you couldn't say anything on TV, so the innuendo was the joke.
Ever watch Match Game?

>Scooter finally gets a storyline
>it's just Rizzo fucking with him
being Scooter is suffering

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:18:52 No.77034869 Report Delete

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>>77034708
He needs a visit from a family member to make things better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:20:59 No.77034910 Report Delete

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>>77025670
>expecting the muppets to be on par with old stuff after henson's death

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:23:12 No.77034958 Report Delete

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>>77025670

did they just pretend Denise never existed?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:44:52 No.77035344 Report Delete

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>>77034958
How many episodes did it take for them to show Fozzie's GF again? Don't give up on Denise yet! I'd like to see more of her, too.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:55:16 No.77035519 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77036261

>>77026194
>Ahem...AVENUE Q
This show would be completely redeemed if they were guest stars

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:31:32 No.77036261 Report Delete

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>>77035519
Followed by a rousing full-cast sing-along of The Internet Is For Porn? Do want, very yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:45:01 No.77036523 Report Delete

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>>77030635
I think the biggest problem with the Rizzo plot was the fact you didn't see any of it. Really, this show is missing a lot of visual humor. Fozzie had a good subplot in episode 1 and the Jay Leno one wasn't bad.

The show works the weakest when it's so strictly following the A, B, C plot so rigidly. It also doesn't help none of them have, so far, really haven't had any thematic, story, or humor connections

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:11:03 No.77036969 Report Delete

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i love miss piggy in this, she is a horrible person

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 06:54:29 No.77040194 Report Delete

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>>77026083

That's not the problem. The problem is that they rebooted The Muppets as a The Office-style mockumentary, which is something that precisely zero people asked for.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:06:56 No.77040291 Report Delete

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>>77040194
I'd much rather they bring back the original format and update it slightly for a modern sketch show feeling, everyone knows and loves The Muppet Show theme keep the theatre angle.

Have every episode feature one guest and one guest only. How hard could it be?

That and Disney really needs to stop hiding the puppeteers during interviews/public outings like Comic Con conferences, it goes against what Jim did.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:28:08 No.77040472 Report Delete

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>>77025670
I honestly think the first four episodes have been pretty good, this one was just bad, Piggy is too unlikeable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:30:45 No.77040499 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77040510 >>77040548 >>77040592 >>77042078

>>77040291
How about a mix? OG Muppet Show-esque skits with the occasional behind-the-scenes documentary interstitials padding it out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:32:00 No.77040510 Report Delete

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>>77040499
This would have been far more ideal. But we've already committed to this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:33:09 No.77040521 Report Delete

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>>77040510
Of course. I guess we'll have to wait until they reboot it again in 10 or so years.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:35:43 No.77040548 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77040623

>>77040499
That's pretty much what I implied with updating it for a modern feeling.

>>77040521
>The Jim Henson company will never get the Muppets rights back
>Disney will continue to sit on it for several years

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:39:52 No.77040592 Report Delete

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>>77040499
That's what I thought we were gonna get based on the pilot, they should have still been doing the Muppet Show, not a talk show with Miss Piggy.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:42:44 No.77040623 Report Delete

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>>77040548
>The Jim Henson company will never get the Muppets rights back
>Disney will continue to sit on it for several years
Yeah, Henson is never getting the muppets back but at some point, Disney will get someone who actually "gets" The Muppets, right?
right???

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:50:40 No.77040701 Report Delete

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>>77040291
Spose it's because people can't see anyone other than Jim being Kermit, Oz being Piggy, etc etc?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:30:22 No.77041134 Report Delete

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>>77040701
Their excuse is that it would ruin the Muppet.. I mean Disney magic.

Jim Henson was always about showing how it's done and introducing the people that bring life to the Muppet characters.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnbgPvgJuV8

There's really no need to stuff the puppeteers into couches uncomfortably so outside of the actual movies/tv shows.

https://youtu.be/Q65fKWU9S-U?t=385

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1-PwZltH8E

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:42:26 No.77041284 Report Delete

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>>77040701
The general public hardly remembers Jim Henson or Frank Oz.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:09:40 No.77041637 Report Delete

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>>77031868
This.

In the other shows and movies, her diva personality is tempered by A) the general wackiness of the setting, and B) her devotion to "kermie". Now we have neither and we're left with pure bitch.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:26:38 No.77041845 Report Delete

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Someone post Miss Piggy's great ass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:42:32 No.77042078 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77042437 >>77045387 >>77046583

>>77040499
So, you want the Muppets Tonight

www.youtube.com/watch?v=FB0ZdwAp2do

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:07:57 No.77042437 Report Delete

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>>77042078
Muppets Tonight is pretty underrated tbh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:25:07 No.77042672 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77042910

So I just watched the pilot out if curiosity and I must say I am...tremendously underwhelmed

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:25:23 No.77042676 Report Delete

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>>77025670
It hit me hard watching the first episodes how you could easily replace the characters with just humans and it would make no difference. At all.

Save for that one joke about Fozzie being a bear... shit was just the office. Extremely disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:39:31 No.77042910 Report Delete

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>>77042672
That's pretty much the rest of the show too, mediocre at best and held back because of complaining americunts.

Disney should just give the show back to the UK and have it made there again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:34:09 No.77043878 Report Delete

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>>77034910
Muppet Treasure Island sure was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:54:31 No.77045387 Report Delete

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>>77042078
I liked muppets tonight

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:58:39 No.77045490 Report Delete

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>>77026777
This got me more than it probably should have

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:18:46 No.77045919 Report Delete

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>>77043878
So was The Muppet Christmas Carol, that's because they're both directed by Brian Henson.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:28:21 No.77046150 Report Delete

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>>77045919
*And written by Jerry Juhl who wrote every Muppet movie up until Muppet From Space, but his script got butchered..

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:32:42 No.77046244 Report Delete

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>>77045919
We need to get Brian Henson back.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:43:52 No.77046494 Report Delete

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>>77046244
Unlikely.

He's more involved with The Jim Henson Company which has been unable to get its own projects off the ground for several years.

>A Pinocchio stop motion animated movie directed by Guillermo Del Toro
>A Fraggle Rock movie/reboot has been announced several times

>‘The Happytime Murders’ announced in 2010 and was to be directed by Brian Henson

>In a world where puppets co-exist with humans as second class citizens, puppet private eye and disgraced ex-cop, Phil Phillips, is hot on the trail of the serial killer who murdered his brother and is now targeting the cast members of the famous 80s television show, “The Happytime Gang.”

>As the killings continue, Phil’s former flame, Jenny, is next on the list. It’s up to Phil and his ex-partner, Detective Edwards, to find the culprit, but as bad blood and old resentments resurface the clues start pointing to the only viable suspect, Phil himself. Now he’s on the run with only his wits and hard headed determination, as he tries to solve The Happytime Murders.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:47:23 No.77046561 Report Delete

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>>77028584
Muppet Babies

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:48:23 No.77046583 Report Delete

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>>77042078
I miss Clifford.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:22:25 No.77047336 Report Delete

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>>77046583
I miss Kevin Clash

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:24:20 No.77047384 Report Delete

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>>77046494
Man, I wanted that so bad. Even if it was terrible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:27:14 No.77047455 Report Delete

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I really dont think this show is too good. its entertaining by virtue of the characters being colorful and silly looking. Take that away, if it was just humans its a pretty boring show.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:29:50 No.77047526 Report Delete

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>>77047384
There's still a chance of it happening apparently.

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-happytime-murders/

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:57:33 No.77048189 Report Delete

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>>77025753
It isn't bad, it's just mediocre

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 15:59:26 No.77049760 Report Delete

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>>77046494
God I want something with the Fraggles. Show, movie, I don't care. Just something. Anything.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:16:46 No.77050177 Report Delete

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>>77049760
They did make new Fraggle muppets for a Ben Folds music video a while ago, so who knows they might return some day.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEyrfFwf3rI

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:25:34 No.77050353 Report Delete

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>>77050177
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEyrfFwf3rI
I recall seeing the video a while back, but had no idea those were new Muppets. I guess it makes sense, though... I remember reading somewhere that the original Muppets were made with materials that deteriorated pretty badly.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:26:15 No.77050365 Report Delete

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>>77046494
Didn't the guy that did Gobo Fraggle die?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:30:17 No.77050444 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77050478

>>77050365
Not sure, but that hasn't stopped them in the past.

I always thought it was the Smurfs movie that caused the Fraggle movie to shuffle back into development hell. The plots of both were rather similar, and they were in development around the same time. I figured they just sent the Fraggle movie back to the drawing board to avoid looking like copycats.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:31:48 No.77050478 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77050496

>>77050444
Honestly, I'd think it would be hilarious if The Fraggles mocked and parodied the "cartoon goes to New York" plot that everyone's doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:32:49 No.77050496 Report Delete

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>>77050478
Well, the Fraggles had a far better reason to be there than the Smurfs did.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:40:32 No.77050648 Report Delete

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>>77050353
>2012

That was longer ago than what I initially thought, god damn.

2005
>An untitled Fraggle Rock movie has been in development by The Jim Henson Company since 2005.

2008/2009
>The Weinstein Company formerly partnered with the Henson Company to produce and distribute the film. Cory Edwards, the writer and director of the 2005 animated film Hoodwinked!, was announced as the writer and director for the Fraggle Rock film in May 2008. Edwards kept a blog about the process, and began writing about his frustrations with the project in mid-2009.

2010/2011
>In June 2010, Edwards announced that the Weinstein Company is looking for a replacement screenwriter, claiming that he's been told that his script is "not edgy enough." In 2011, the deal fell through with Weinstein.

2012
>In May 2012, new writers for the project were announced.

2014
>After nearly two years of inactivity, Brian Henson briefly talked about the film's progress in a March 2014 Variety interview:

>“Fraggle Rock” is still in development, but the development is looking very strong, where “Dark Crystal” is mostly developed. “Fraggle Rock” might go faster because it’s not as big an undertaking.

MARCH 19, 2015
>Joseph Gordon-Levitt will produce and star in the live-action “Fraggle Rock” movie for New Regency, The Henson Co. and Lisa Henson.

Shows how long it takes for The Jim Henson Company to get anything done.. if at all.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:45:04 No.77050749 Report Delete

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>>77050365
Jerry Nelson, he did a lot more characters though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:58:27 No.77051041 Report Delete

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>>77050648
Huh, so it was trouble with the writing that was holding it back? Interesting.

>not edgy enough
That's... worrying.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:12:47 No.77051348 Report Delete

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>>77051041
>In 2011, following the loss of the Weinstein deal, New Regency announced that they had acquired the rights to produce the film.

Weinstein was holding the Fraggles back, but the Jim Henson company has so many announced projects it isn't funny.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:18:29 No.77052706 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77052786

>>77050177
We need a Folds vs Rowlf piano duel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:22:33 No.77052786 Report Delete

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>>77052706
Great idea. Shame we're stuck with a TheOffice/30 Rock/Parks&Rec rip off with the Muppet characters pasted on.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=do1-olB5FTk

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:12:12 No.77053847 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77055777

Red Fraggle is mai waifu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:42:46 No.77054624 Report Delete

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So, since this seems to be evolving into a general Muppet/Fraggle/Jim Henson thread, did any of you guys hear that they're adding an autistic Muppet to Sesame Street?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:22:39 No.77055777 Report Delete

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>>77053847
Red works for Valve making vidya games.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:37:47 No.77056275 Report Delete

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>>77055777
Are you spouting random nonsense, or is that actually a thing? (if it's a joke, it's flown over my head)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:41:06 No.77056395 Report Delete

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>>77056275
Just looked it up. Her puppeteer now works as an animator at Valve. That's cool.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:41:09 No.77056397 Report Delete

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>>77056275
It's not a joke, Karen Prell the puppeteer/voice of Red Fraggle works for Valve as a animator and before Valve she worked at Pixar as one.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:48:29 No.77058323 Report Delete

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>>77056397
Well then, since Fraggles only have a 40 minute work week, I guess we'll be waiting even longer for Half-Life 3.

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