>>77050033Tim is salvageable, everyone would just have to stop pretending he's not a new character.
Wally is beyond saving, unless other writers take care of him after he becomes Kid Flash. Hell, just give a bit of him to Lobdell and TT. DC's worst mistake is that crossovers happen only in Batbooks and sometimes within one writer's continuum (Sinestro&Lobo). Though they've been putting a lot of Aquaman around, strangely enough.