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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:18:34 No.77070756 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>77070793 >>77070804 >>77070909

>Before Ren and Stimpy, kid cartoons were relegated to major networks' Saturday Morning cartoons. Ren and Stimpy came along and was the most popular TV show ever created for cable for 10 years (until Sponge Bob, a descendant of R and S) and it sold 600 million dollars of merchandise in the first 2 years. This success brought Nickelodeon into millions of new homes and gave The Cartoon Network confidence that it too could maybe compete against the established Network giants.
>Nickelodeon then adopted (a nice way to put it) my studio system that was completely different than the Saturday morning cartoon system and stocked their new studio with my trainees. (And spent about 10 times more just trying to imitate us than what they ever spent on the ones who created all the new ideas).
>Within about 4 years after Ren and Stimpy hit, Saturday Morning cartoons were crippled and ever since, cable cartoons have been on top.

What do you make of this, /co/?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:19:49 No.77070766 Report Delete

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Ren and Stimpy are the reason we have shootings in schools.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:20:58 No.77070781 Report Delete

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In an alternate universe Andrew Dobson had a fleeting moment of relevance in the 90's. When the multiverse was merged into a single entity, he changed his name to John K. to avoid a paradox.

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[email protected] Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:22:10 No.77070793 Report Delete

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>>77070756
are there any cartoons that are out now and not in syndication that do not rely on mechandise? Or just use the cartoon as a vehicle for the mechandise?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:22:56 No.77070804 Report Delete

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>>77070756

I liked Ren and Stimpy. The nonsensical nature appealed to me greatly.

It actually improved when John K. left in my opinion. If John K had stayed and we still got the exact same season 4 and 5, people wouldn't complain about them. They were great

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:25:06 No.77070836 Report Delete

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Looking at how John K.'s output post-R&S, I can only assume that the other members of his team at Spumco were the real miracle workers, or that John's work on Ren and Stimpy was one of the biggest flukes in animation history.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:27:41 No.77070863 Report Delete

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>>77070836
>>77070793
He continues:

>In 1996 I was so frustrated with how ungrateful and slow moving the TV cartoon business was, that I was looking for a new medium and had recently discovered the WWW. I instantly saw the potential of reaching audiences directly and for less money than you would need to pay to keep a network filled with highly paid pests who hated creativity.
>I needed a program that would allow me to make cartoons for the internet. Within a few months of my brainstorm, in walked Annmarie Ashkar, a big Spumco fan who wanted to work for me. She told me about a primitive new program called Flash that some websites were using to make banner ads and simple games. We both agreed that maybe we could force it make cartoons, so we made the very first Internet cartoon called The Goddamn George Liquor Program.
>So I spent my own money developing the techniques to make this program work for animation, put the first Internet cartoons up, called Macromedia and showed them what I was doing, worked with their programmers and suggested many improvements for the program. I also called all the magazines and Newspapers and marketed the whole deal myself. I got on the cover of Wired and many other magazines and the news spread like wildfire.
>Soon, everyone and his dog started up their own Flash websites and copied what we were doing. Icebox, one of our followers, then saw another cartoon I had started called Weekend Pussy Hunt and paid for part of it. I trained about 40 artists to use Flash with the techniques Annmarie and I developed and now they are all the top Flash people in TV.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:27:45 No.77070864 Report Delete

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>waah I never fucked up, guys, even though I did
>waah I shouldn't have given a corpotate entity a great deal of information on how to manage their productions which was greatly more efficient than it was before my messianic influence
>waah I wouldn't have fired myself despite how fucking useless I was! they had no right!
>grr my training methods are better than CalArts
>abloo bloo bloo colleges enforcing artistic homogenization
>everyone should draw like me, though!
How many did I miss in today's edition John K Bingo?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:30:05 No.77070899 Report Delete

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>>77070864
>greatly more efficient

You're talking about this bullshit here.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:30:07 No.77070901 Report Delete

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>>77070863
Holy shit, he takes credit for flash becoming an industry tool? I was willing to give him a sliver of credit for the first bit, but that's just full on balls to the walls delusional right there.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:30:48 No.77070909 Report Delete

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>>77070756
Rugrats was more successful.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:32:41 No.77070930 Report Delete

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>>77070909
Probably has something to do with why he thinks klasky csupo is worse than hitler.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:38:02 No.77070981 Report Delete

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>>77070899
Son, JK things everything about modern cartoons, even the production methods, are of his genius devisings.

Unfortunately, regardles of the artistic or emotional implications, vectorized, flash-based cartoons are very much a more effictient production process than traditional forms.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:43:31 No.77071070 Report Delete

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>That Simpsons Halloween couch gag he put out
I can't believe he managed to degrade even further. His character animation has gone from "elastically off-model" to "plastic bags with the characters' faces drawn on them and wiggled around"

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:47:23 No.77071128 Report Delete

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>>77071070
You mean from shit to even more shit?

Wow.

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