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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:36:24 No.34695712 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695777 >>34695916 >>34696299

dumbell row vs barbell row

what's better for strength, for aesthetics, etc
(nevermind the obvious fact that dumbell is better for fixing and imbalance)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:36:48 No.34695720 Report Delete

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fixing an imbalance*

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:38:40 No.34695743 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695762

barbell flies

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:40:19 No.34695762 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696479

>>34695743
isn't that a chest exercise

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:40:48 No.34695765 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695790 >>34695792 >>34695804 >>34696077 >>34701878

Why is DB better for fixing an imbalance? Its vice versa. With rows you can't progress if your other side is lacking behind. With DBs its pretty obvious that your main hand, which has a better motoric capability for you, will always dominate.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:40:58 No.34695768 Report Delete

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I do barbell rows for my back/biceps and I do Kroc rows for grip.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:42:08 No.34695777 Report Delete

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>>34695712
I feel like pendlay rows can be a really difficult exercise to do with strict form. Personally I like to either do t-bar rows or dumbell rows.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:43:31 No.34695790 Report Delete

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>>34695765
couldn't you do more reps with one side to emphasize the growth on that side?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:43:34 No.34695792 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695820

>>34695765
I would imagine in a barbell row your dominant hand will make up for your weakness in your opposite hand. As opposed to using the same weight in each hand for an even distribution

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:44:02 No.34695797 Report Delete

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i do both

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:44:33 No.34695804 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695825

>>34695765
So db pressing doesn't fix chest imbalances right? Your logic is a little flawed I think

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:44:58 No.34695809 Report Delete

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>>34695768
that's a really good one i had to google it but thanks i needed a good grip strength workout

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:45:53 No.34695817 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695831

>>34695790
If you have an imbalance, it just means you don't do enough both hand back exercises IMO. And that means you should do them instead of your DB rows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:46:08 No.34695820 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695865

>>34695792
if you don't want an imbalance isn't that something you specifically want to avoid? cause if your dom hand is making up for weaker strength that will lead to more growth with your dom side right

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:46:35 No.34695825 Report Delete

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>>34695804
with db pressing you are still doing it at the same time
with db rowing its different

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:47:09 No.34695831 Report Delete

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>>34695817
i don't have an imbalance, im just wondering about the advantages of DBR vs BBR

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:51:10 No.34695865 Report Delete

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>>34695820
exactly, use dumbbells to fix imbalances

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:56:02 No.34695898 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695922 >>34695954 >>34697676 >>34701908

rows are fucking stupid

wanna work your lats? do a movement that works the lats better, such as vertical pulls.

Wanna work your traps? do a movement that actually targets your traps, such as a shrug.

the row is a shitty lat exercise and a stupid way to shrug.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:58:23 No.34695916 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695967

>>34695712
funny how everyone itt doesn't mention the lack of lowback involvment in db rows

for me, heavy bb row (or tbar) is mainly used as a deadlift assistance since it taxes the lower back really hard
i use dumbbells for higher-rep work and more as a lat workout

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:58:48 No.34695922 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34695957 >>34695980 >>34696050

>>34695898
Bench is a stupid exercise
Wanna work chest? Do cable flyes
Wanna work triceps? Do tricep extensions
Bench is a shitty chest and tricep exercise.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:02:26 No.34695954 Report Delete

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>>34695898
shrug only partially targets the traps
although I agree pullups=king for lats

>row is a shitty lat exercise
you don't know how to row properly

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:02:44 No.34695957 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696004

>>34695922
>Bench is a stupid exercise
This is true though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:03:34 No.34695967 Report Delete

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>>34695916

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:04:52 No.34695980 Report Delete

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>>34695922
except the lats are much more active during vertical pulls, they are quite weak during horizontal pulls.

the chest is very active during horizontal pushes. And yes, you do need tricep work, you can't rely on bench for that alone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:07:45 No.34696004 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696014

>>34695957
guess who sucks at benching

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:08:35 No.34696014 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696042

>>34696004
You.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:09:13 No.34696024 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696362

>>34695954
So what's a good exercise for hitting the traps? Bent over raises?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:10:25 No.34696042 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696076 >>34696088

>>34696014
except i can db incline 90s for 10

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:11:18 No.34696050 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696096 >>34696128

>>34695922
This. Also results in manboobs if you don't do at least twice as much incline bench.

Generally avoid compound 'lifts' if you want to look good. Compound 'lifts' are for fat powerlifters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:13:48 No.34696076 Report Delete

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>>34696042
That's DB Incline. We're talking flat barbell bench aka king of all memes

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:13:49 No.34696077 Report Delete

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>>34695765
Ofcourse DB exercises can fix imbalences.

Every exercise where you have two hands on one bar create the posibility of one side using more force and dominating the other side.

For exemple DB vs BB; curls, rows, presses etc.

Using DB's forces each side to use equal amounts of strenght so you will never use more weight than the weakest side can handle, thus fixing the imbalance.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:14:37 No.34696088 Report Delete

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>>34696042
>90lbs
>impressive

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:15:31 No.34696096 Report Delete

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>>34696050
back in my day b8ing used to mean something

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:18:31 No.34696128 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696141 >>34696184

>>34696050
>Bench Press gives you manboobs
>Deadlifts fuck up your back
>Squats make you shorter
>Rows are just wannabe shrugs (???)

WTF can I do anymore

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:19:44 No.34696141 Report Delete

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>>34696128
Cable machines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:23:35 No.34696184 Report Delete

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>>34696128
Become a hunchback manlet with teds and a 1330 total

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:32:46 No.34696299 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696310 >>34696311 >>34696345 >>34696387 >>34696452 >>34696485

>>34695712
>tfw when back day today
>5/3/1 deadlifts
>3x5 pendlay rows
>3x10 underhand grip barbell rows
>3x10 pull ups
>3x8 wide grip lat pulldowns
>3x12 close grip lat pull downs
>3x8 one-armed cable rows
>3x12 cable rows with v-bar
>3x10 straight-arm pull down
>3x8 row machine supersetted with 3x12 shrugs
Feels good tbh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:33:40 No.34696310 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696332

>>34696299
>all those identical movement patterns
you're a retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:33:51 No.34696311 Report Delete

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>>34696299
>tfw when
I dun goofed

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:35:49 No.34696332 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696406

>>34696310
Care to elaborate why, my friend?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:36:28 No.34696345 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696405

>>34696299
Let me guess.. bro split?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:37:11 No.34696355 Report Delete

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It depends on your lower back fatigue.

Let's say you did squats and deadlifts one day, then the next day you decided to do back and did barbell rows. Since barbell rows work your lower back, this would be stupid to do since it is fatigued already and you risk going snapcity. Make your own decision.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:38:01 No.34696362 Report Delete

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>>34696024
Deadlift shrugs chinups and cleans

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:40:01 No.34696387 Report Delete

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>>34696299
>Gotta work them from every angle

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:41:33 No.34696405 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696545

>>34696345
Kinda
It's just 531 which I added a billion extra work to

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:41:55 No.34696406 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696578

>>34696332
Because you're just hitting the exact same muscles in the exact same way. Like, a pull up is similar to a pulldown and you're doing 3 of that movement pattern. Well, shit, you're doing 4 with the one arm pulldown.

It would be much better to just do pull ups, a vertical row of some sort and maybe a horizontal row and a unique lat exercise like straight arm pulldown or lat pullovers. Way less time but you'd get the same results.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:46:16 No.34696452 Report Delete

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>>34696299
I fixed your routine for you instead of just laughing at you like everybody else.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:48:41 No.34696479 Report Delete

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>>34695762
Joke from days of old

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:49:00 No.34696485 Report Delete

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>>34696299
>300+reps for back in single workout
jesus
you better be blasting 3+grams

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:01:15 No.34696545 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696659

>>34696405
1 or 2 exercises per mucle group is enough if you hit your muscles 2 times a week.
And you should hit your muscles 2 times a week because that's the optimal natty frequenty.

So with upperbody day for example just a pulldown/up, a row, a press, a vertical press, dips, tri's & bi's (maybe decline flyes) and you're done.

Low volume + high intensity + 2x a week = solid gains

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:03:57 No.34696578 Report Delete

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>>34696406
I used to do 531 Boring But Big, but as the name suggests it got boring. I just look at the extra volume as my cardio and it's more fun tbh

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:10:37 No.34696659 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696813

>>34696545
That's what I used to do, but I wanted to try something new and it has been successful so far

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:25:48 No.34696813 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34696971

>>34696659
Are you saying you make better strength gains with that insane volume?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:39:48 No.34696971 Report Delete

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>>34696813
Haven't stalled so far

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:44:42 No.34697676 Report Delete

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>>34695898
>he doesnt care about rear-delts

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:06:21 No.34697952 Report Delete

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>>34695777
>mfw only 1plate away from arny's Tbar row

I know it's probably nowhere near his max ans hes just struggling for the camera but feels good mang

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:16:47 No.34700163 Report Delete

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For someone who had surgery a month and a half ago and lost 2 inches on my surgery arm and 1 inch on my other arm, what routine should I be doing to even them out? How long generally before I can get them even again? Was it lost muscle or lost glycogen or something? Can it be done before january 31?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:38:00 No.34701318 Report Delete

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Can I replace the rows on SL5x5 with t-bar rows?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:02:34 No.34701878 Report Delete

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>>34695765
That would be a problem if you were a complete retard and used different weights for each arm just because one is stronger. You correct imbalances by doing a set with your weaker arm first, then replicating that exact set with your stronger one instead of pushing further. Eventually the weaker arm catches up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:05:28 No.34701908 Report Delete

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>>34695898
>he can't into rhomboids

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:08:35 No.34701929 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>34701963

How are you supposed to start a BB row? Do you just pick it up off the ground with a deadlift form, or start on low pins in the power rack, or what

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:13:41 No.34701963 Report Delete

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>>34701929
Whatever is more comfortable for you, I prefer starting in the rack like some kind of rack pull.

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