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>Getting into fights
>Not doing sports / knowing that your body works as a whole, and every muscle counts in most sports, and bench being one of the best press movements out there
>Every sport can hurt your shoulders / cause injuries / bad posture if you don't do it right

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:29:05 No.34719158 Report Delete

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>>34719076
Big chest muscles without an even bigger back = Computer chair posture

Plus the movement just impinges your shoulders, so it will fuck up your rotator cuff eventually.

>>34719102
Stupid retard detected. OHP is way better than bench. Squats and cleans will have more carry over into sports and fighting.

The force of a punch comes from your hips/ass, NOT FROM YOUR CHEST. This is what 99% of /fit/ can't accept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:29:09 No.34719159 Report Delete

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>>34719076
People who's only pressing movement is the bench usually end up with tight pecks and front delts giving them this hunched forward look. It's easily solved with band stretches, OHP and rows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:30:29 No.34719170 Report Delete

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>>34719102
>and bench being one of the best press movements out there

Show me a single movement in any sport or physical activity that replicates the bench press.

It doesn't exist. Bench press only makes you better at more bench press.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:31:56 No.34719189 Report Delete

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As a mechanic who has had to remove transmissions without a jack more times than he'd like, I just want to say the bench press has helped me a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:32:13 No.34719193 Report Delete

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>>34719102
Trolled lol.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:33:17 No.34719204 Report Delete

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>>34719189
Trolled hard.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:33:27 No.34719208 Report Delete

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>>34719102
Most of the power comes from your balance and feet. Nice try, Mulhouse calves.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:33:47 No.34719214 Report Delete

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>>34719058
>every nfl athlete is wrong

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:34:22 No.34719218 Report Delete

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>>34719170
>Show me a single movement in any sport or physical activity that replicates the bench press.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-SwNfOle0I

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:34:41 No.34719220 Report Delete

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>>34719058
>i lift for functional strength
0/10

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:35:03 No.34719225 Report Delete

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:35:55 No.34719233 Report Delete

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>>34719170
How about any physical sport, like american football where you push with your whole body? Or ice-hockey where you use your whole body to tackle?

If you think you know best, then why most athletes do bench press? It doesn't have to be motion-specific, you can transfer the strength and muscle gains while doing sport-spesific things. OHP is definitely better, but doing them both is what most coaches make their athletes do bro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:36:14 No.34719236 Report Delete

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>>34719218
hahahaha

You think that replicates a bench press? Holy shit, read a fucking anatomy book or get some glasses.

Sumo slap fight is just a test of their squatting ability.

THE FORCE DOES NOT COME FROM THE CHEST.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:36:18 No.34719238 Report Delete

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>>34719159
>OHP
how are you going to fix overtrained front delts by training them even further?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:36:36 No.34719243 Report Delete

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I had to quit bench because of my shoulders. What do you guys recommend for chest development? Dips? Is that enough?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:36:50 No.34719248 Report Delete

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>>34719158
>Big chest muscles without an even bigger back = Computer chair posture
>Plus the movement just impinges your shoulders, so it will fuck up your rotator cuff eventually.

name a source faggot.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:37:23 No.34719253 Report Delete

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>fighting sports
Subjugated working class/10

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:37:33 No.34719256 Report Delete

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>>34719233
>How about any physical sport, like american football where you push with your whole body?

Bench press uses the whole body now? Are you blind?

When you push in football or hockey, you're using your legs, back and hips. Your arms are basically cables and only need to be fast and light. Bench press and curls = Absolutely fucking useless.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:38:34 No.34719267 Report Delete

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>>34719248
> what is every single power lifter ever

Enjoy your shoulder surgery for a stupid exercise that won't do shit except increasing your ego by giving you boobs.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:39:04 No.34719275 Report Delete

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>>34719243
Flys and chest dips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:39:36 No.34719280 Report Delete

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>>34719256
Answer my question m8. Then why literally all coaches make their athletes do bench press? Do you really know better than them?

>Bench press uses the whole body now? Are you blind?

Im not but you're stupid af. Tell me one exercise that trains the whole body so we don't have to do squats, bench, deadlift etc. to strengthen the WHOLE body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:40:19 No.34719292 Report Delete

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>>34719243
OHP, jerks, pull ups, hand stands.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:41:43 No.34719320 Report Delete

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>>34719280
Almost all collegiate S&C coaches in HS and college are gifted their positions and fucking morons. Look up the workout regiment for the Houston Texans even. Completely moronic.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:42:19 No.34719327 Report Delete

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>>34719280
>Then why literally all coaches make their athletes do bench press? Do you really know better than them?

Pure bullshit.

> Tell me one exercise that trains the whole body so we don't have to do squats, bench, deadlift etc. to strengthen the WHOLE body.

Clean and jerk. Fuck's sake, you're retarded.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:42:31 No.34719332 Report Delete

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>>34719158

It will only impinge your RC if you do it the retarded bodybuilder way

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:43:26 No.34719341 Report Delete

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>>34719280
>Then why literally all coaches make their athletes do bench press? Do you really know better than them?

They're retarded Americans and you can't prove "literally all" emphasize the bench.

If a coach isn't training the squat and the clean, then you might as well do body weight exercises.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:44:31 No.34719358 Report Delete

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>>34719320
You're just an idiot. There's no reason to drop bench if you're an athlete. Its a great upperbody press exercise. And if you're an real athlete, you care about whole body strength.

its not like whether you choose to bench press its the only exercise you have to do for the rest of your life.. jesus.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:44:34 No.34719361 Report Delete

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>>34719332
>It will only impinge your RC if you do it the retarded bodybuilder way

There's a non-retarded-bodybuilder way to perform a retarded bodybuilder exercise?

A big chest has ZERO carry over. There's no point to even performing a bench press well.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:46:37 No.34719384 Report Delete

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>>34719358
>You're just an idiot. There's no reason to drop bench if you're an athlete. Its a great upperbody press exercise.

99% of the time people say this in response.

> claim bench is bad exercise
> "NO ITS A GREAT EXERCISE THE PROOF IS THAT ITS A GREAT PRESS EXERCISE"

The whole point is that bench is a useless exercise that people think they have to do.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:47:29 No.34719396 Report Delete

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>>34719327

So lets just do clean and jerk for the rest of our life, is that what you're trying to say?

So if im an athlete and i think that bench press is great to improve my pushing strength, im retarted? Its not like doing bench press once a week will make you a champion or a zero anyway.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:59:40 No.34719550 Report Delete

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>>34719396
>So if im an athlete and i think that bench press is great to improve my pushing strength, im retarted?

Yeah, basically. It shows how little you understand anatomy and your own body. You never make pressing/pushing movements that originate with the chest.

It's a completely unnatural exercise and you're mad because you've wasted so much time doing it.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:06:57 No.34719631 Report Delete

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Right that's why only idiot fighters like Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis used the bench press

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:09:24 No.34719649 Report Delete

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Not everything you do has to be 100% sport specific.
If you're an athlete and you're just looking to bulk up, it'd be pretty silly not to utilize the bench press as your main upper body pressing movement, as it involves so much total muscle and allows for easy continued overload.

The fact that the bench press allows such heavy weights to be pressed also means that it's great for maximal strength training - regardless of whether or not it mimics an actual movement you do in your sport.

That said, a lot of people in this thread appear to be emotionally attached to a fucking exercise. Don't be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:11:11 No.34719674 Report Delete

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>>34719631
>Right that's why only idiot fighters like Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis used the bench press

They didn't. I'm sorry that you read in a Men's Fitness magazine that Tyson does bench press. Most boxers avoid weights all together but they'd benefit from doing the olympic lifts.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:11:48 No.34719678 Report Delete

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>>34719058
Kek
>not doing floor press exclusively

Well, if I had a bench id do binch press

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:13:55 No.34719697 Report Delete

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>>34719158
>cleans
I quit reading there

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:14:25 No.34719704 Report Delete

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>>34719256
Settle down Rip

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:16:08 No.34719719 Report Delete

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>>34719102
if you want to get strong at horizontal pressing, there are better ways to press horizontally. Like weighted pushups, scapula can move freely and thus you wont fuck up your shoulders

if you're not a powerlifter you have 0 reason to do the bench press

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:17:14 No.34719731 Report Delete

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>>34719704
Rip is right in that he recognizes bench press' only use is as an accessory to the OHP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:18:15 No.34719743 Report Delete

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>>34719719
>Like weighted pushups, scapula can move freely and thus you wont fuck up your shoulders
> if you're not a powerlifter you have 0 reason to do the bench press

this guy gets it

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:22:48 No.34719784 Report Delete

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>>34719058
I'm actually curious....

Relative to my weight, I bench a lot, and my pecs are by far my strongest muscles. However, I have been struggling with my posture.

Should I cut down on bench?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:23:23 No.34719786 Report Delete

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>>34719170
Pushing anyone in any sport?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:23:25 No.34719787 Report Delete

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I cant bench without screwing my shoulders, heavy dips and pullovers give me enough chest work.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:24:01 No.34719795 Report Delete

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>>34719731
Oh I agree, just shitposting.

Been thinking of giving up regular BB benching for a while now since it seems that almost all of my chest gains are coming from OHP and dips/flyes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:24:04 No.34719797 Report Delete

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>>34719784

Stretch your pecs and do more upper + middle back work

Also lay off the bench for a little while, if you have a strong bench and good pic development (and aren't a pl) there's almost no reason not to take a break for a few months

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:24:24 No.34719800 Report Delete

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>>34719256
>Bench press uses the whole body now?

If you don't totally fucking suck at it, yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:25:12 No.34719808 Report Delete

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>>34719784
I once fucked up doing squat, took a one week rest and deloaded by 40% weight to fix my form. It was a pain in the ass to go back up with baby weight but I think it did more good than harm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:25:30 No.34719809 Report Delete

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>>34719784
Absolutely. Switch it with OHP and do more back work.

Guys mistake thoracic extension and good posture for a big chest so they try to get as much chest work in when really it's just good posture that they're after.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:26:03 No.34719815 Report Delete

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>>34719674
>but they'd benefit from doing the olympic lifts.

Back to your containment thread with your 2pl8 front squats

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:27:07 No.34719825 Report Delete

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>>34719784
Stretch your pecs and delts out

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:28:07 No.34719831 Report Delete

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>>34719786
Comes from the back and legs. The force generated does not have its origin in the chest. Your arms are just cables.

>>34719800
Bench really engages your quads?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:28:23 No.34719833 Report Delete

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>>34719797
>>34719808
>>34719809
Thanks fellas. Will do.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:28:39 No.34719838 Report Delete

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>>34719238
it works the most important shoulder external rotators in their primary function

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:29:50 No.34719848 Report Delete

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>>34719815

why so salty? did a weightlifter show your gf how to jerk and tighten up her snatch?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:31:04 No.34719859 Report Delete

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>>34719831
Cables don't push you fucking moron, the cable analogy only applies to the Olympic lifts. So a wrestler on his back is pushing with his legs and not his pecs/arms? Coulda fooled me.

And yes, if you have any idea how to bench, your whole body should be incredibly tight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:31:54 No.34719867 Report Delete

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>>34719158
The punch thing isn't 100% true. Boxers have to choose between a wide (stronger) hip punch or short fast (chest/back) punches. Either are extremely effective in specific situations but to use only one type is setting yourself up for a good read. A good combination is an unpredictable one. This is why training on mitts is so important. U learn to reflexively dodge all the 100% hip punching retards.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:32:05 No.34719869 Report Delete

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>>34719848
What are your best lifts?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:32:12 No.34719872 Report Delete

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>Implying I do sports
>Implying I bench without an arch and a good bar path
>Implying I don't balance it with a shit ton of rear delt and rotator cuff work
>Implying I don't want joocy titties for t-shirt gains

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:33:26 No.34719885 Report Delete

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>>34719058
But I can do the titty dance because of bench press that's all that really matters and you know damn well I'm right anon.

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Sparrow !HtFTmNhiQQ Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:45:40 No.34720002 Report Delete

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>>34719058
NO I WON"T ACCEPT IT
go fug yourself

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:10:20 No.34720289 Report Delete

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>>34719674
There is fucking footage of him benching lmfao, just look on YouTube "Tyson bodybuilding motivation"

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:12:27 No.34720321 Report Delete

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>>34719872
Pretty much this

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:13:52 No.34720341 Report Delete

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=D6x4s2I6m4M

Op is a faggot

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:27:08 No.34720478 Report Delete

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>>34719831
Do you not use leg drive? I know its not exactly "hitting" your quads but you definitely use them. Plus you have to keep your whole body tight

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