/g/ - Technology » Thread #51028596

[50 / 2 / ?]

425KiB, 1037x1072, BotnetQuestionmark.png

Is Chrome actually a botnet?

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:00:38 No.51028596 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51028672 >>51029072 >>51029141 >>51029542 >>51029765 >>51030548

Most of the tracking stuff can be disabled. Additionally through the user of the enterprise version and local group policy, auto-updates can be disabled.However, a few key items remain troubling to me. Apparently there is a RLZ .dll that when deleted on a windows machine disables the RLZ "feature" of chrome. Is this still true? Additionally there appears to be a unique token that's generated upon install. Is there a way to install Chrome without generating the token?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:05:33 No.51028672 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51028705

>>51028596
Why are you even worried about browser privacy when you're using Windows?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:07:22 No.51028705 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029006

>>51028672

I'm not using windows 10 and I blocked/removed all of the back-ported telemetry updates

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:12:41 No.51028791 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029131

there is no privacy learn to live with it

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:14:57 No.51028831 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029006 >>51029050

No and neither is windows 10 fuck off tinfoils.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:24:42 No.51029006 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51028705
that doesn't mean you have privacy on windows...

>>51028831
>windows 10
>not a botnet
that's not even naive anymore, that's just stupid

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:27:50 No.51029050 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51028831
I'm as Windows-centric as they come, and even I can see that Microsoft datamines way more information that they could reliably say they 'need to'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:29:10 No.51029072 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029095

>>51028596
No, because it doesn't meet the definition of an actual botnet.

But of course calling anything a botnet is just /g/-tier meme garbage at this point. It's not like /g/ ever actually discusses real botnets like Zeus or Kelihos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:30:05 No.51029095 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029121

>>51029072
What are Zeus and Kelihos?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:31:27 No.51029121 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029138

>>51029095
Actual botnets. Some of the largest in history. Microsoft even partnered with the FBI to sinkhole one of them. They had to build their own server hardware and get a dedicated ridiculous high-bandwidth line for it to sinkhole all of the traffic and divert it away from their respective targets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:31:56 No.51029131 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51028791

This tbh

Privacy is an illusion in this day and age

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:32:28 No.51029138 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029121
I meant custom servers, not actual server hardware (like CPU and shit) in and of itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:32:40 No.51029141 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51028596
Do you literally not know what a botnet is?

Do you know why it's called a "bot" net even?

Google is an indexing service. They send out spiders called "bots" that look for new addresses attached to websites that have the "include" tag embedded in their HTML code. Whenever they find new pages like this they add it to the search service.

That's it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:33:05 No.51029149 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029530 >>51029822

Dude, nobody gives a shit about your disturbing fetishes

you dont do anything important in your life to be worth tracking

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:34:34 No.51029173 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029207 >>51029226

You can run Chrome entirely botnet-free if you use it within an FSF-endorsed Linux distro like GNewSense or Trisquel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:36:27 No.51029207 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029316

>>51029173
No I can't. I'm not a virgin, so I'm not allowed to use those things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:37:00 No.51029226 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029249

>>51029173
>GNewSense
Why don't you just kill yourself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:38:39 No.51029249 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029226
yeah fuck my bad, it's actually gNewSense
sorry richard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:39:13 No.51029260 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029392

Furthermore, not all botnets are actually malicious.

Since "bots" are just programs that run on your computer and distribute data across a connected network, that's generic enough that it can be used for good or for evil. A good example of a non-malicious botnet is the google search engine. All that botnet does is track new websites and webpages and index them.

A bad botnet would be a DDoS attack that relies on a number of computers being penetrated by spiders coded by black hats trying to target someone innocent, or datamining from embedded spyware in freely distributed programs masquerading as useful system utilities, movies, games, you name it.

Out of all the malicious botnets out there, Google is the LEAST of your worries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:41:59 No.51029316 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029466

>>51029207
Trisquel is literally just Ubuntu with different repos, and you have to go to the Debian website to get the iwlwifi deb before you start installing it. It's easier to have sex running Trisquel than Arch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:44:42 No.51029366 Report Delete

Quoted By:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:46:18 No.51029392 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029573

>>51029260
>botnet - A network of private computers infected with malicious software and controlled as a group without the owners' knowledge

>defined as being infected with malicious software
>not all botnets are actually malicious

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:47:07 No.51029416 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029601

OP's rephrasing:

Is it possible to use Chrome without sending unnecessary data back to google with any unique identifier

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:49:31 No.51029466 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029490 >>51029554

>>51029316
I understand none of what you just said. Enjoy never getting any pussy (or cock if that's your thing)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:50:31 No.51029490 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029466
Why are you even here if you're just gonna make virgin jokes and shit on linux? Not mad, genuinely curious, /g/ has been the the definitive board for Linuxfags for forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:52:29 No.51029530 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029636 >>51029855

>>51029149
Kill yourself

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:52:57 No.51029542 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51028596
It's pretty tame compared to windows 10.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:53:35 No.51029554 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029466
If you're in the least bit concerned with privacy you ought to be using Lunix. If you don't give a shit about privacy there's very little reason for you to continue posting in a thread about how botnet the official botnet browser is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:55:08 No.51029573 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029392
>A botnet is a number of Internet-connected computers communicating with other similar machines in an effort to complete repetitive tasks and objectives.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botnet

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:56:36 No.51029601 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029735

>>51029416
Depends on your definition of "unnecessary data"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:58:09 No.51029636 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029855

>>51029530
No, kill yourself, paranoid faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:04:32 No.51029735 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029796

>>51029601

Data extraneous to requesting and receiving a webpage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:06:43 No.51029765 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029810

>>51028596
No, not really. You can disable all of the privacy invading stuff (like website prediction and whatnot). If you are that concerned just use chromium instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:08:36 No.51029796 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029820

>>51029735
That still depends. It's not black and white, there's cookies for instance. Browser history. Password history, autofill, things like that.

If you're paranoid, you might perceive those to be a threat to you. If you're not paranoid, you might perceive them to be useful and necessary to your workflow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:09:34 No.51029810 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029860

>>51029765

I'm currently using Chromium; but I'm unsure what the most reputable place to grab the binaries from would be. Currently I'm using woolyss'

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:10:36 No.51029820 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029846

>>51029796

I'm not stupidly paranoid. I don't mind having page history and first party cookies. Third party, autofill, pass history and prediction / prefetch are just annoying.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:10:53 No.51029822 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029149
Die

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:13:03 No.51029846 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029871

>>51029820
Then just disable those features in the privacy/security settings.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:13:29 No.51029855 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029636
>>51029530
Compelling debate on both sides of this critical issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:13:37 No.51029860 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029893 >>51029906

>>51029810
If you are worried about who compiles the binaries, perhaps you shouldn't use a computer at all, because you can never be sure who compiled the firmware for your wifi card or your CPU's microcode.

Also, isn't there some sort of official release for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:14:38 No.51029871 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029887

>>51029846

Done so in Chromium; I was mostly curious if something similar could be achieved in Chrome

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:15:25 No.51029887 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029914

>>51029871
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:15:40 No.51029893 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029860

Don't tempt me to go off the grid and eat rats to survive

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:16:47 No.51029906 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51029860
Not on Windows, but then again if you're paranoid enough that you're concerned about the trustworthiness of binaries you really shouldn't be on Windows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:17:18 No.51029914 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51029972

>>51029887

Well I know those specific things can be adjusted in Chrome. However, what about the unique install token, and silent auto-updates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:20:43 No.51029972 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51030019

>>51029914
>silent auto-updates
>this closed-source binary from the world's largest data mining company used to be totally fine and trustworthy but now that it's updated itself I just know it's gone all botnet on me

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:23:34 No.51030019 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51030052

>>51029972

I'm more concerned that through this vector anything could be loaded if the Chrome update servers were compromised.

Same consideration with Windows updates, you don't install the latest ones till you know they don't cause issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:25:39 No.51030052 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51030019
Once you start doubting there's no end to it.

If it bothers you then don't use it.

Anonymous

View Same Google ImgOps iqdb SauceNAO hypoc.jpg, 96KiB, 720x720

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:01:53 No.51030548 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>51028596
Here's what you do.
Take the day off from your retail job and make yourself some coffee.

Cancel all your plans for the day and get your self ready with some comfortable clothes and some fluffy socks.

Open up Internet Explorer and download Tor.
Install and start using.

THEN go to https://ixquick.com and search for "Linux for beginners", and study. Good place to start may be here: http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/ubuntu-an-absolute-beginners-guide/ .

Any tricks or settings you change in Chrome is going to be minuscule in comparison to what you share with Microsoft by using Windows, especially Win 10. Not to mention using Google's search engine. Ditch them both. Join to cause.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:37:23 No.51032460 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Once you're connected to the internet you no longer maintain any privacy

Subject

Name

E-mail

Password

Capcode	All Only User Posts Only Verified Posts Only Moderator Posts Only Manager Posts Only Admin Posts Only Developer Posts Only Founder Posts
Show Posts	All Only With Images Only Without Images Only Spoiler Images Only Non-Spoiler Images
Deleted Posts	All Only Deleted Posts Only Non-Deleted Posts
Ghost Posts	All Only Ghost Posts Only Non-Ghost Posts
Post Type	All Only Sticky Threads Only Opening Posts Only Reply Posts
Results	All Grouped By Threads
Order	Latest Posts First Oldest Posts First

On these boards

Your latest searches

Is Chrome actually a botnet?