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VB.NET as a 1st programming lang?

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:41:56 No.51062894 View Reply Report Delete

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Hello Anons, i started programming with VB some days ago(newbie,beginner dude) and i was wondering how far can i go with a programming language as VB. Did yo start the same way? Any tips?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:42:48 No.51062909 Report Delete

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I love Reisen!

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:44:37 No.51062940 Report Delete

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Just start with python if you want to be a pussy.
If you want to be a man start with the language you hope to master.

C/C++/Java whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:45:20 No.51062949 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>51062986 >>51062996 >>51063031 >>51065700

>>51062894
VB is a good starting lang.
Just make sure you move to a better lang, like C/C++/C#, not to a worse lang like Js

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:47:15 No.51062986 Report Delete

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>>51062949 Why is Java considered a bad language ? I've seen a great deal of people debating on that

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:47:49 No.51062996 Report Delete

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>>51062949
This.
I started with VB.NET, then moved onto stuff like C for Procedural and C# for Object Oriented.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:48:39 No.51063003 Report Delete

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>>51062894
do C# + WPF
WPF at first is a pain in the ass, but later it gets better

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:48:51 No.51063012 Report Delete

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>>51062996
Goodjob wasting your time learning languages that are obsolete once you learn a better one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:50:16 No.51063031 Report Delete

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>>51062949
>JS worse than VB

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:50:42 No.51063036 Report Delete

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>>51062894
Don't bother with VB. Just go straight to C#.
It's literally better in every way while being just as easy to learn

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:52:25 No.51063054 Report Delete

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>>51063012
OP here, wasting my time? Why do ou say so? I need to set a starting point and i dont know if i did good to choose VB, so i'm asking for some advice

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:54:12 No.51063077 Report Delete

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>>51062986
Java is a good language, Javascript is nowadays used to make the internet unusable

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:58:58 No.51063149 Report Delete

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>>51062894
C and Python.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:11:57 No.51063362 Report Delete

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>>51062894
You'd be better off learning something (almost anything) else.

C cause it will teach you how low-level works and its syntax is the prototype for almost any popular language.
JS cause you'll have to learn it anyways.
Python cause its practical as fuck and gets shit done.
C# or Java cause its everywhere in enterprise and teaches you OOP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:41:23 No.51063788 Report Delete

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>>51063362
So, either C and Java or C nd python. How long will it take to reach an intermmediate level at both?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:43:04 No.51063819 Report Delete

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>>51063788
Since you're starting, it depends how much practice you put in.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:44:36 No.51063844 Report Delete

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>>51063788
Here's a good source if you haven't seen already.
http://norvig.com/21-days.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:45:21 No.51063852 Report Delete

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>>51063819
Lets say 3hours per day practing and learning

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:45:56 No.51063863 Report Delete

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>>51063788
Don't focus on how long it will take. Just do shit. Google. Code. Repeat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:46:24 No.51063872 Report Delete

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why is it called .NET? what is that language for anyway? is it for web?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:47:21 No.51063889 Report Delete

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No VB is garbage just use c#. That way you still have .net and visual studio but with a real language people care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:49:59 No.51063923 Report Delete

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>>51062894
Fuck basic.
>"but muh goto"

Just learn C#. You can learn immediately after it, so you'll know both of the most popular languages under your belt. You can also make good money off those languages, and there's plenty of learning material out there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:50:20 No.51063930 Report Delete

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>>51063872
Because that is what they call the windows frame work

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:50:55 No.51063943 Report Delete

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>>51062894
Python or Ruby are great for beginners because they do all the heavy lifting for you.
You can even run them in your web browser.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:51:10 No.51063945 Report Delete

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>>51063852
3 hours a day? You'll burn yourself out pretty quickly.
It's better to keep it an hour or two at max.
Also, Make sure you have a goal every time before you start. Whether it's a tackling on a part of a week/month long project or a simple exercise to learn a concept.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:05:37 No.51064178 Report Delete

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>>51062894
java is the best choice if you're trying to get into OOP imo

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:25:07 No.51064479 Report Delete

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>>51063945
This.
Alternatively, if you really want to study for 3 hours a day or more, split up your study/practice sessions throughout the day. Take an hour in the morning, hour after lunch/class or hour when you get home or in the evening. If you're really into it, then go all out if you have nothing else planned.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:27:16 No.51065402 Report Delete

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>>51063054
Because not many devs use VB now

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:44:54 No.51065614 Report Delete

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>>51065402
It's used in enterprise IT quite a bit, or at least VBA is

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:51:38 No.51065700 Report Delete

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>>51062949
>better lang
>C#
>kek

VB.NET is literally C# with a few changes in syntax that make it more familiar to VB6 users. That's why there are automated converters online that will take code from one and spit out code for the other with 100% accuracy.

I get tired of C# kiddies bragging "hurr durr i program in C." No you don't. Real C/C++ is a different world from .NET. If you know one .NET language starting to use the other should take...5 minutes.

Learning actual C, if you take it seriously and study algorithm design and optimization, will teach you more about how computers work. Which will help you optimize code even in higher level languages, though you can optimize some things in C far better then in C#, VB, Java, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:53:36 No.51065731 Report Delete

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>>51063077

Java is a good language. Java GUIs and coding practices are used now days to make applications unusable and source code unreadable.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:02:23 No.51066799 Report Delete

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Any thoughts on Scheme as a good first language?

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