>>49974702to be fair, being invaded by two biggest armies of that time while your allies ignore you is irrelevant in this discussion
>>49974719PLC could've resisted Swedes if they had any cohesion or anything
if Deluge never happened, Polish position wouldn't be so weak, and rest of things you wrote wouldn't happen
but like I said, problems were at the core of that state, it had no hope when facing centralized powers like Russia or Prussia
Poles and Russians started same, but went separate ways in political sense
Russians built a rigid centralized state, Poles were disunited
in the end, don't cry so much
at least you weren't ruled by Muslims for 400 years
