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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:44:26 No.50067912 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>50068274 >>50068878 >>50070588 >>50071250

What should America and Europe have done after the collapse of the Soviet Union to make sure Russia became a democratic friend instead of an Bond villain state?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:45:46 No.50067967 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>50068061

Blow it the fuck up

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:47:11 No.50068018 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>50068063

>implying that was Americas intention in the first place.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:48:35 No.50068061 Report Delete

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>>50067967
This tbh
Missed opportunity

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:48:45 No.50068063 Report Delete

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>>50068018

> Implying that you are Japanese

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:51:25 No.50068147 Report Delete

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lustration

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:55:07 No.50068274 Report Delete

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>>50067912
Not raping it of its assets by funding a giant denationalization sell-off to enrich a small groups of western elites, former Soviet officials, and organized criminals, which basically affirmed everything Soviet propaganda had said about the West for 70 years thus creating a new non-ideological skepticism of western institutions among the general population.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:59:52 No.50068404 Report Delete

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>>50068274

t. Sergei

Why not take some responsibility for once in your goddamned life?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:03:01 No.50068490 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>50068973

Russia doesn't see the US as a threat as long as they don't tell them how to do things and wants a better relationship with them
North Korea doesn't see the US as a threat as long as they don't tell them how to do things and wants a better relationship with them
Cuba doesn't see the US as a threat as long as they don't tell them how to do things and wants a better relationship with them, also embargo'ed
America is the villain

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:06:37 No.50068572 Report Delete

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>>50068404
That's not why Russia is poor, or the explanation for continuing corruption. But the Yeltsin years ARE the reason a large majority of the Russian population now wants to go their own way as opposed to a wholesale embrace of the western system.

There's nothing to make an excuse for. Russia simply has no reason to view the US as a friend. It's not necessarily our responsibility to give them a reason either--it's feeling the need to even ask why Russia and the West don't get along that is stupid and obtuse. If you think western post-Cold War actions were more or less correct, then there's not even a reason to ask or be concerned about Russia's governance or culture, because our actions suggest we don't give a shit. Now suddenly people are dismayed because Russia isn't a Jeffersonian republic?? Talk about schizophrenic.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:15:57 No.50068806 Report Delete

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>>50068572
>because our actions suggest we don't give a shit
Of course. Billions of dollars in aid to get the Russians back on their feet, and an invitation to join the community of nations culturally and economically was merely done to spite them. In fact, it was a fiendish plot to introduce our homosexual propaganda.

Just like the Color Revolutions. The scheming of the Western Bankers (read: Jews) knows no bounds!

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:19:08 No.50068878 Report Delete

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>>50067912
>Bond villain state
it is otherwise m8, imperialistic pigs are masked in democracy

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:22:26 No.50068958 Report Delete

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>>50068806
So we expected to get nothing for our investments? We did it out of the good of our hearts, all for the sake of the Russian people? We didn't organize and fund political dissidents in Eastern Europe? We didn't send mixed signals about our intention to expand the NATO Cold War military alliance? We haven't become hypersensitive at any and all efforts of Russia to build economic and military cooperation among the remaining independent former-Soviet states?

I'd respect you more if you just admitted you support naked national self-interest above all else, and are merely advancing the interests of you and your people, Russia be damned. But you default right back to the humanitarian narrative. You sound like a progressive, not a nationalist.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:23:13 No.50068973 Report Delete

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>>50068490
mate, you are fuckin naive.
you just believe everything Putin says because he's Putin, an autocrat, and not American, an elected politician?

the guy is honestly the most hypocritical leader on the planet right now and people just buy his 'im taking on the bullies' bullshit. seriously, post something that Putin has said about the USA and I'll tell you how his country is exactly the same.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:26:39 No.50070545 Report Delete

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>>50068973
>the guy is honestly the most hypocritical leader on the planet right now and people just buy his 'im taking on the bullies' bullshit. seriously, post something that Putin has said about the USA and I'll tell you how his country is exactly the same.

How much longer until the US drops its "No Assad" demands during talks with Russia on post-war Syria?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:28:18 No.50070588 Report Delete

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>>50067912
They should've set up companies instead of porn studios, brothels and human trafficking hubs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:50:56 No.50071250 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>50072965

>>50067912

whatever had to be done, should have been done before they got nukes

operation unthinkable

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:47:45 No.50072901 Report Delete

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>>50070545
m8 I dunno, it's a Saudi/Israeli show and we're just the muscle

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:49:53 No.50072965 Report Delete

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>>50071250
There was no military in Europe that could hold the Soviet Union. It would've resulted in Europe being completely conquered by the Soviet Union.

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