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>>14272326
hecatia, ZUN said so

>>14272396
>powerlevel
some lovecraft horrors>?>hecatia=geat gods in lunar capital>>>>eiki>?>lord tsukuyomi>>eirin>gap>yukari

and reimu no one fuck certain know where fit in

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:10:12 No.14278751 Report Delete

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>>14278465
Your first ? Is obviously Americans.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:18:18 No.14278773 Report Delete

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>>14278751
The raw power of one small step is truly unfathomable.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:21:44 No.14278789 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>14278802 >>14278918 >>14281680 >>14282079 >>14283670

Did someone say power levels

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:25:03 No.14278802 Report Delete

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>>14278789
>Eiki below Eirin
>Yuuka so far down
>Byakuren and Kasen so high up
>Reisen so high up
>Reimu anywhere but the top of the chart
I literally cannot understand how anyone can be this wrong.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:39:45 No.14278845 Report Delete

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>>14278802
>Eiki below Eirin
This is correct
>>Yuuka so far down
I agree she should be hire
>Byakuren and Kasen so high up
Byakuren is literally Youkai Jesus and Kasen is an oni so she's there by default
>Reisen so high up
The rabbit bitch can man manipulate wavelength also she's the moon KGB elite
>Reimu anywhere but the top of the chart
Almost everyone above would trash Reimu if it wasn't for spell card rule.The people above has to much hax and I win buttons for Reimu to handle

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:44:23 No.14278863 Report Delete

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Reminder that Toyohime is just Yukari in disguise

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:48:44 No.14278880 Report Delete

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>>14278845
>Almost everyone above would trash Reimu if it wasn't for spell card rule.The people above has to much hax and I win buttons for Reimu to handle.
Fantasy Nature.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:55:19 No.14278906 Report Delete

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>>14278845
Eiki is the strongest in Gensokyo. Eirin is in Gensokyo, and is thus weaker than her.
Byakuren is a little bitch compared to the horrifying abominations that litter that chart. Under no circumstances should she be considered stronger than Tenshi or Yuyuko for example.
Reisen, for all of her "strengths" is not on the same level as Dio as a girl, miss "can move an appreciable fraction of the speed of light", Mokou, and the grim fucking reaper.
Reimu can't be trashed by anyone, Fantasy heaven sees to that. Honestly, she shouldn't even be on the chart since she's literally invincible.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:56:05 No.14278909 Report Delete

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>>14278880
Well there's that but can she use it instantly or those it take time to use.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:58:52 No.14278912 Report Delete

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>>14278909
She can use it whenever she wants at an arbitrarily fast pace. The spell card system actually weakens her since she needs to put a time limit on Fantasy Heaven, an arbitrary limit on he abilities.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:00:17 No.14278918 Report Delete

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>>14278789
I know most in this list is BS but why do people often place Eirin so high in the top?
She might be a genius and immortal, but her "fighting power" is not that high compared to others.
And why would Kaguya be so high while Mokou is way down under her?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:03:03 No.14278926 Report Delete

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>>14278912
Well shit she might as well be the apex predator

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:06:08 No.14278935 Report Delete

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>>14278918
Because whoever made this chart is an idiot who notably overvalues the IN characters while completely misunderstanding others. Seriously? Kanako and Suwako on the same level as Eiki and above Yukari?
>>14278926
She kind of is. Gensokyo is her jurisdiction and she only has to yield to a handful of people of at all. She's the one shrine maiden in charge of managing ALL the Youkai of Gensokyo, or at least was before the Moriya Shrine showed up.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:42:32 No.14280861 Report Delete

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>>14278880
She can't use it at full power in the spellcard rules, and there are quite a few of Gensokyo's residents with powers a lot scarier than invincibility restrained by the rules

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:09:20 No.14281102 Report Delete

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>>14278918
Eirin is canonically holding back in IN so as not to embarrass Kaguya.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:30:29 No.14281680 Report Delete

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>>14278789
Got any source on that chart? Pretty sure I saw that somewhere ages ago, but it would be nice to know the reasoning behind such categorization and how many people agreed on it.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:36:49 No.14281690 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>14281989

Power level thread? Molto Bene.

Can any 2hu beat Giorno?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:50:20 No.14281915 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>14282046

Everyone knows powerlevel discussions are going nowhere because of the spellcard rules. If we're talking about battle win records, maybe Seija is the best under the main characters. If we're talking about game casts, the strongest would probably be from PCB, PoFV and LoLK. Also, the only characters that fought Reimu and won without losing to a rematch are only Yorihime and VIVIT (canon aside).

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:22:13 No.14281989 Report Delete

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>>14281690
Depends if death itself is a Cause of a Effect, or if Gold Experience Requiem have any boundaries.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:02:38 No.14282046 Report Delete

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>>14281915
>>14272494
Moonbitches are nothing to the power of AMERICA.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:19:38 No.14282079 Report Delete

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>>14278906
>Eiki is the strongest in Gensokyo. Eirin is in Gensokyo, and is thus weaker than her.
no fucking retard, eirin is a resident of gensokyo, but isn't gensokyan at all

see>>14278465, but he could be wrong too except the hecatia part

>>14278789
old chart and incorrect in some parts

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:30:19 No.14282106 Report Delete

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:31:33 No.14282108 Report Delete

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>>14282079
>no fucking retard, eirin is a resident of gensokyo, but isn't gensokyan at all
Very few people in Gensokyo are natively Gensokyian.
Generally, >>14278465's tier list is correct.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:32:48 No.14282111 Report Delete

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>>14282079
>old chart and incorrect in some parts
well that's a fucking understatement
i mean you've got yuuka below ran and reimu below kanako to say the least before we get into the nonsense that is having kaguya in top tier above eiki and tenshi

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:49:55 No.14282151 Report Delete

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What is the reasoning behind people claiming Hecatia is the strongest 2hu? I literally can't find any reason at all

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:55:48 No.14282170 Report Delete

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>>14282151
She's the queen of hell. She has authority and power over all hells.
She's definitely more powerful than Eiki, who has the power/authority to send people to one afterlife which means she's more powerful than 90% of the cast, minimum, with the possible exception of Yuuka (PoFV Yuuka route has her as a legitimate contender for "strongest in Gensokyo") and the moonbitches.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:03:35 No.14282184 Report Delete

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>>14282170
Um, she's A goddess from hell, not THE absolute goddess from hell. I think you got that wrong

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:20:18 No.14282215 Report Delete

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>>14282184
I'm not saying it's my reasoning, I'm stating what reasoning people use since you asked.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:43:35 No.14283200 Report Delete

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>>14282184
Supposedly, according to the interview with ZUN about LoLK, Hecatia has far greater jurisdiction than Eiki:
https://www.shrinemaiden.org/forum/index.php/topic,18774.msg1214943.html#msg1214943

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:54:53 No.14283245 Report Delete

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:00:08 No.14283670 Report Delete

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>>14278789
In general that looks right, but some shifting should happen. Mostly lower tier girls moving on up.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:05:35 No.14283846 Report Delete

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>>14283670
There's a lot wrong with that chart, but the argument has already been had this thread.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:48:15 No.14284219 Report Delete

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>>14283245
ka

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:49:27 No.14284659 Report Delete

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>>14283200
Hecatia isn't a judge or anything, so "jurisdiction" might not be the right term. Eiki is the judge of Gensokyo, but Hecatia rules over Hells, including of the Hell(s) of Otherworlds, which includes Gensokyo, the Dream World, and any other strange world.

>>14282184
She's a goddess of Hells, and is said to rule/manage them. It doesn't exclude the possibility of involving any other figures, and ZUN has said that Hell hasn't been very well explored yet, but it's undeniable that Hecatia is more influential then Eiki even if she currently seems like a very underwhelming character.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:05:02 No.14284684 Report Delete

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So is Hecatia stronger than the Dragon God?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:09:15 No.14284694 Report Delete

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>>14283245
HAS

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:08:48 No.14285557 Report Delete

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>>14284219
T

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:35:26 No.14285621 Report Delete

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>>14285557
such a lewd ruler

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 11:24:45 No.14290100 Report Delete

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Yukari

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>>14278465
Where is ZUN words about it?

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