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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:53:10 No.27738637 View Reply Report Delete

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Why did halberds and polearms in general get smaller heads over the years? Did they become more for decoration or was there an actual reason to it?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:58:34 No.27738706 Report Delete

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bump with a neat french halberd

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:01:28 No.27738739 Report Delete

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bump

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:01:57 No.27738742 Report Delete

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>>27738637
Maybe to puncture stronger armor?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:04:22 No.27738769 Report Delete

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>>27738742
I've considered that but often times puncturing armor wasn't the best thing for you, as the blade could get stuck. I just had a thought though, maybe it was for getting through and breaking chainmail

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:07:50 No.27738818 Report Delete

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>>27738637
All those crazy-looking designs are pretty uncommon, or are found at about the same time from the same area. This is usually because they tried it out, and it sucked, then went back to simpler, more effective designs. Bills and Bardiches look really neat, and theoretically have a lot of use in combat, however in practice, a plain axehead or spearhead will do the job just fine, if not more effectively.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:09:43 No.27738842 Report Delete

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>>27738637
>Why did halberds and polearms in general get smaller heads over the years?

graph shows otherwise

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:11:53 No.27738863 Report Delete

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>>27738842
Most halberds, bills and spears were smaller than what they started as

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:12:33 No.27738874 Report Delete

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>>27738637
> Why did halberds and polearms in general get smaller heads over the years?

A combination of better quality steel and the evolution from peasant weapons to professional solider weapons.

> Did they become more for decoration or was there an actual reason to it?

Later on, that too.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:13:16 No.27738884 Report Delete

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>>27738637
Maybe better metallurgy? Stronger steel so they could make smaller blades that were just as good?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:14:42 No.27738899 Report Delete

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>>27738874
what about the inwards crescent curve many halberds have?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:19:01 No.27738952 Report Delete

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bump

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:24:10 No.27739012 Report Delete

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The head at "sar" of Guisarme is the best prove me wrong.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:28:49 No.27739060 Report Delete

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It looks like the trend was going toward them being fuckhuge until the late 1700s, early 1800s.

That's around the same time that the levee en masse conscription shit started happening.

Maybe that's related. Maybe it's cheaper to mass produce?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:34:50 No.27739141 Report Delete

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>>27738637
Maybe gunpowder made polearms a purely defensive weapon to protect gunners. You don't need brute weight or a large slashing blade. Merely a long, pointy stick to keep horses or infantry from charging all up in your muskets. The tips probably got smaller as the shafts got longer as well to support the fact that polearms became a more defensive weapon, employed in covering the muskets and artillery from horsemen and marauding infantry.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:41:12 No.27739212 Report Delete

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>>27739141
nice point, another thing I haven't thought of. Although wouldn't it just make more sense to use pikes instead?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:08:28 No.27739534 Report Delete

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>>27739212
Old traditions die hard. Also, in the oft chance that you do need more than a pointy stick, you would wish for something more. But mainly increasing shafts lengths would be my theory.

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