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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:40:21 No.7300282 View Reply Report Delete

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Besides Oblomov and Nausea, what are the best books about lethargy/apathy?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:02:16 No.7300991 Report Delete

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>>7300282
The Strangero by alberto camuso

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:52:57 No.7301130 Report Delete

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read ode to indolence over and over again tbh

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:54:56 No.7301133 Report Delete

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Not a book but obligatory,
Bartleby, the Scrivener

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:25:55 No.7301419 Report Delete

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À rebours by Joris-Karl Huysmans

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:54:48 No.7301470 Report Delete

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Georges Perec - A Man that sleeps

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:19:39 No.7294417 View Reply Last 50 Report Delete

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Post god-tier opening lines thread.

>Call me Ishmael. Some years ago - never mind how long precisely - having little or no money in my purse, and nothing particular to interest me on shore, I thought I would sail about a little and see the watery part of the world.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:08:36 No.7300364 Report Delete

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"Aujourd'hui Maman est morte"
Albert Camus

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:18:55 No.7300410 Report Delete

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We knew him in those unprotected days when we were content to hold in our hands our lives and our property. None of us, I believe, has any property now, and I hear that many, negligently, have lost their lives; but I am sure that the few who survive are not yet so dim-eyed as to miss in the befogged respectability of their newspapers the intelligence of various native risings in the Eastern Archipelago. Sunshine gleams between the lines of those short paragraphs--sunshine and the glitter of the sea. A strange name wakes up memories; the printed words scent the smoky atmosphere of to-day faintly, with the subtle and penetrating perfume as of land breezes breathing through the starlight of bygone nights; a signal fire gleams like a jewel on the high brow of a sombre cliff; great trees, the advanced sentries of immense forests, stand watchful and still over sleeping stretches of open water; a line of white surf thunders on an empty beach, the shallow water foams on the reefs; and green islets scattered through the calm of noonday lie upon the level of a polished sea, like a handful of emeralds on a buckler of steel.
Conrad

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:25:34 No.7301418 Report Delete

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>>7295421
>>7295694

The trick is that Severian is writing the Book of the New Sun at a later date, after he has a much better idea (but still not a complete idea) that he is essentially a puppet being played by the Hierodules. What he's saying is entirely true--he has seen both his future and his past, all of which are inside of his memory. The irony comes from the fact that Severian is simply too arrogant/dumb to recognize that he has already died and resurrected multiple times and has been shown what will happen to him in the future on multiple occasions.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:39:48 No.7301448 Report Delete

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>>7294417
Aujourd'hui, maman est morte. Ou peut-être hier, je ne sais pas. J'ai reçu un télégramme de l'asile : « Mère décédée. Enterrement demain. Sentiments distingués. » Cela ne veut rien dire. C'était peut-être hier.

All of the English translations of this book suck. None of them really capture the feeling very well.

But, regardless, the English would be along the lines of:

My mom died today. Maybe yesterday, I don't know. I received a telegram saying: "Mother deceased. Funeral tomorrow. Deepest regards." This tells me nothing. It could've been yesterday.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:46:15 No.7301457 Report Delete

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>>7301448
Damn, that French is fucking beautiful.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:46:19 No.7300944 View Reply Report Delete

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What's the best way to read this/best version?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:26:24 No.7301216 Report Delete

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>>7301168
back to reddit

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:29:35 No.7301227 Report Delete

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>>7301216

What gives?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:59:52 No.7301302 Report Delete

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzmmPRG4smU

Performed in Old English with subtitles. Easily torrentable.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:17:44 No.7301330 Report Delete

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>>7301161

I've read the heaney side by side with the original, using a dictionary and guesswork for the first 100 lines. Call me in 10 years and I'll tell you the same thing after having read the original fully in fluency.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:44:32 No.7301454 Report Delete

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>>7301168
back track more freshman ass nigga

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:14:52 No.7301328 View Reply Report Delete

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Ebook dumpz

I've seen a download list of collections of ebooks being posted here before. Does anyone have any they can post?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:48:05 No.7301272 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7301289 >>7301406

Where do I commence?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:51:47 No.7301281 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7301289

Not worth the trip, he's worthless if you're not reading him in Russian. Even then, he's sprawling and poorly crafted, like a careless Dickens.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:54:15 No.7301289 Report Delete

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>>7301281
Oi rudeboy shutup
>>7301272
The Raid
Or
The Death of Ivan Ilych
Maude Translation = Best Translation

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:02:20 No.7301384 Report Delete

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Initiate with Ivan Ilyich

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:16:52 No.7301406 Report Delete

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>>7301272
The Cossacks
The Kreutzer Sonata (for 19th century /r9k/)
Hadji Murad

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:32:37 No.7298708 View Reply Report Delete

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Just found out my dad has terminal lung cancer. Less than 6 months left. Can lit reccomend a relevant read that isn't pleb tier?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:27:36 No.7301221 Report Delete

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>>7298805
The Fault in your Ass.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:34:26 No.7301354 Report Delete

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>>7299718
CO2 poisoning is a sweet death.
Also, morphine overdose. Many doctors do this in the final days, they just dont tell.

>>7299786
Fight for breath on every moment of your life, sleepless, always getting weaker. Final months of lung cancer are no fun for the patient or the family.

Cheer up OP, and enjoy these weeks. Then gets worse. After it has finished everything gets better.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:45:58 No.7301367 Report Delete

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>>7298723
>Your dad's a lucky man. Me, I have a personal obligation to wait until my mom dies before I can kill myself. I'll get there soon enough though
me too, there are up to 20 years to wait....

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:55:03 No.7301377 Report Delete

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just eat a part of his infected lung and use the digestive-antibodies your stomach develops to dissolve the cancer cells to reinject into your father to cure his cancer

it's simple fucking science

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:05:27 No.7301388 Report Delete

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>>7298708
The Death of Ivan Ilyich

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:25:40 No.7301056 View Reply Report Delete

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What do you know of Moretz the Learned

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:22:00 No.7301339 Report Delete

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>>7301264

Flaws are ok

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:27:01 No.7301341 Report Delete

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>>7301339

S'more you know...
It could be right under your nose

>>7301193

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:44:24 No.7301365 Report Delete

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>>7301271

linguistic expression can be seen as a form of geometric projection

>>7301274

Descriptive geometry uses the image-creating technique of imaginary, parallel projectors emanating from an imaginary object and intersecting an imaginary plane of projection at right angles

"You dont have to go in circles when you hover about but it helps."

Intersubjectivity is considered crucial...
...even metaphysical levels

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:53:38 No.7301376 Report Delete

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>>7301193

What are the main ingredients of a narrative?

>The secret ingredient is love

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:58:31 No.7301379 Report Delete

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>>7301365
>linguistic expression

Down to play with letters?

We don't need games for U and I to lovingly create together

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:10:56 No.7300637 View Reply Report Delete

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Hey /lit/, I was just reading some of Dreamseller, a memoir about being a drug addict, and realised how much I like reading about people with fucked up lives, like this and The Heroin Diaries by Nikki Sixx.

Anyone got any recommendations? I'm not necessarily after ones about drugs, just any good biographies about people in messed up situations.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:33:18 No.7301352 Report Delete

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/lit/ pls

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:47:34 No.7301372 Report Delete

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>>7300637
Bukowski is the big one.
Especially his earlier novels.

For just straight up drug stuff, Junkie by William S Burroughs is a great book. I guess he gets in a few nasty situations being addicted to heroin, but the stakes are kind of lowered since he's educated and well off.

Jack Black's (not THAT Jack Black) book You Can't Win is a really cool book about a guy who becomes a cat burglar in, I think, the early twentieth century. It's an autobiography published under a fake name. It influenced Burroughs a lot.

A Child Called It, which I haven't read all of, is an autobiography about this guy who was the victim of like the second worse case of child abuse ever. His mom made him eat dirty diapers and lay on the stove and beat the shit out of him all the time. Really brutal stuff.

And then there's also Scar Tissue, Anthony Kiedis's autobiography, which is, I imagine, similar to Nikki Sixx's.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:21:59 No.7299586 View Reply Report Delete

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Let's get a discussion going on this book. I know a lot of you have read it.

Spoilers. Obviously spoilers. If you don't want to know about this book, don't read further, simple as.

I started it yesterday and finished it today. And what an incredible journey it's been. Every part of me wants to feel like I'm not going to become like Stoner. I want to have a wife and love her, I want to have a child and love it, and I want to have a job and love it, but I know I'll never do any of those things well enough. I know it all means nothing, and that even in death, the only thing that I'll ever have achieved is what I gave not to others, but to myself.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:06:44 No.7301156 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7301177

the ending got me so bad, I loved how he was just holding his book and being proud of himself.

why is edith such a bitch bros? ;_;

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:14:24 No.7301177 Report Delete

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>>7299586

Was it Edith's fault that Grace became an absolute slut, using her against their marriage or did it happen by accident because she was free and wasn't feeling trapped or strained in their house?

>>7301156

She didn't get to go to Europe with her grandmother.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:18:08 No.7301185 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7301308

I see a few people in this thread saying they read this in a day or just a few days. I finished it in 3 days. This might be common for you guys, but for me it usually takes way longer to finish a book. What are some other books that are such a good read that they're hard to put down like this one?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:21:48 No.7301203 Report Delete

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>>7299861
I was trying to think of why that cover was a good idea, and the first thing to pop up in my head was his and the other faculty member's folders/papers that they carried their work around in. If I remember correctly they are described in somewhat detail in at least one instance. Pretty neat cover actually.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:02:42 No.7301308 Report Delete

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>>7301185
I read it in 4 hours on a plane ride

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:43:24 No.7292253 View Reply Last 50 Report Delete

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Was he right about women?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:47:47 No.7298993 Report Delete

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>>7292933
>its very eurocentric to think music has to be "good" to listen to it
I laughed out loud 10/10

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:06:05 No.7299059 Report Delete

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>>7298894
Even if her wording leads to value judgements, you can't falsify the pool of studies she's drawing from to chart the evolution of scores.

The other two researchers are a mathematician, and a theorist on education, the latter co-signing another study which tracked a pool of students of both genders through high-school, also finding no consistent gender difference, but finding divergences in the predictors for score in different genders.

So yeah, dismissing that on such simplistic grounds is out of the question.

>This is not a denial or refutation of the claim

It provides an alternate interpretation as to why women underperform men in those tests. It also re-states the observation that women's scores have been steadily rising over the past decades, something that cannot be explained through biology or simplistic interpretations of the theory of evolution.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:14:31 No.7299083 Report Delete

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>>7292933
lmao at Bill Evans and Dave Brubeck

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:57:06 No.7299949 Report Delete

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>>7298966
Technically, fapping is sex

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:45:29 No.7301268 Report Delete

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>>7298795
The largest differences in spatial performance between men and women disappear when adjusted for stereotypes and self-perception:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2555429/

>>7298894
> and it makes very clear that its purpose is to challenge preexisting assumptions about psychological differences between men and women rather than conduct a proper empirical data-based analysis of studies on gender differences in mathematics performances.

Science is all about falsification and doesn't shun assuming an outcome before an experiment, that's basically what a hypothesis IS, you dipshit.

>This is an openly biased study that is outright using unscientific, value-judgement terms like superior, precocious, and inferior in the abstract you cited.

I checked the abstract. The word "inferior" does not appear at all, and "superior", when used, refers very clearly to a specific quantitative measurement that is higher than another. To dismiss the entire study as being unempirical in methodology due to a trivial choice of words (which are not obfuscatory or qualitative in-context) honestly shows that you yourself have an emotional need to dismiss it off the bat. You're really grasping for straws and I bet you have very little, if any, tertiary education in science.

A refutation that relies purely on word choice. Seriously, what a little pleb you are.

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