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Science Fiction and Fantasy general

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 14:52:47 No.7246345 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255395 >>7259652 >>7264197 >>7284307

Robotics edition
>Recommendations:
>Fantasy
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>Sci-Fi
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>Who is your favorite Robot/AI from Science Fiction/Fantasy?
>What is your favorite work dealing with AI and Robotics?
>As computing and Robotics in the real world get more advanced, will the role of Robots in Science Fiction change too?

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 18:22:59 No.7247104 Report Delete

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Besides Jules Verne, H.G. Wells, The Difference Engine and Bas Lag by China Mieville, what are the essential steampunk novels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 18:29:56 No.7247123 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7268261 >>7273582

Anyone here read "The Three Body Problem"?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 20:06:09 No.7247456 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248913

>"philosophical science fiction"
>all humans are secretly wizards lol

Also, which segment does the title refer to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 21:15:44 No.7247716 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248309 >>7248317 >>7248902 >>7252513

what does /lit/ think about prince of nothing and the related series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:18:53 No.7248309 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248429

>>7247716
4chan over the years has turned me into a filthy pervert. With that said, I liked the rape, gay and incest in Prince of Nothing Series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:21:31 No.7248317 Report Delete

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>>7247716
It's great. I liked the rape, gay and incest in Prince of Nothing Series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:32:13 No.7248351 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248404 >>7248405 >>7248553

I don't usually come to this board, but what does /lit/ think of Hyperion as scifi?

I read through the whole first volume, but I was just left thinking "is that fucking it?"

Am I just not cut out for serious business literature, or do some people agree?

Also, any recommendations for people who like scifi, but not hyperion? I like reading, but the last English book I read for leisure was probably a good 7 years ago so I'm pretty much a blank slate.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:32:17 No.7248352 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7257684 >>7277465

Reminder

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:44:41 No.7248404 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248415

>>7248351
Hyperion is middle-brow. Did a lot of nice things but stuffed everything else with cliche. As SF it took other peoples' ideas and did fun things with them, linked them with archaic ideas but not as good as it could have, but man if that fight with the Ousters wasn't fun.

It wasn't serious business literature. It tried but was chained by cliche. Wolfe or Herbert if you want serious business, Pynchon or Vonnegut for your hipster nephew, Zelazny or Le Guin if you want to have fun while you're serious businessing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:44:49 No.7248405 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248407 >>7248429

>>7248351
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Hyperion Series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:45:43 No.7248407 Report Delete

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>>7248405
Having sex with the Shrike was a bad idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:48:25 No.7248415 Report Delete

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>>7248404
>Zelazny or Le Guin if you want to have fun while you're serious businessing.
That sounds like what I'm looking for. Thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:51:42 No.7248429 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248444

>>7248405
Why are you trying to make a meme out o my comment?>>7248309

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 00:55:53 No.7248444 Report Delete

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>>7248429
Maybe he liked the rape, gay and incest.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 01:26:19 No.7248553 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7256489

>>7248351
Check out Revelation Space, brother man.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 03:24:38 No.7248828 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7249410 >>7253255 >>7268417

is this series good, /lit/? I'm looking for something new to read

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 04:05:28 No.7248902 Report Delete

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>>7247716
An excellent epic fantasy, the best that is being currently written, and probably my second favourite over all.

Bakker tends to philosophize a lot, which puts a lot of people off, but not me. His naming scheme also turns people off, and if you read series where you want to root for characters, there's barely any. But I like pretty much everything about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 04:12:41 No.7248913 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7248991

>>7247456
The whole book. 'Childhood' is the human race. Also don't piss CE, that ending scene alone is beautiful enough to make all of the weird supernatural stuff worth it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 05:07:01 No.7248991 Report Delete

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>>7248913
Oh, I did think it was a beautiful work of prose. It's just that I was a little disappointed that the great special thing about humanity that was hyped up throughout the book turned out to be magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 08:27:21 No.7249410 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7251103

>>7248828
I liked the rape, gay and incest in the Warded Man series.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 10:06:38 No.7249609 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7249637 >>7249757 >>7278009

I'm on page 900 (out 1000 on my kindle) and I have to say I'm somewhat disappointed by this book (and The Name of the Wind). I like when he's travelling but each time he stays at in a place the story gets quite boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 10:14:38 No.7249637 Report Delete

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>>7249609

That part when he goes to Adem? and learns from the oh so wise totarry not weeaboo warrior race was horrible, I skimmed it while squinting very hard to shield my eyes from the filth

I also skimmed over the faerie world shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 10:34:01 No.7249708 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7250824 >>7276158 >>7278116 >>7280571 >>7280629

Does anyone have any book recommendations for civilization/nation/city building shit? Fantasy or sci-fi doesn't matter, bonus points if it's someone using advanced knowledge because he's a dimension/time traveller or something. Really I'd accept just about anything though

Kinda in the same vein, any recommendations for survival novels, loner or group trying to survive and improve their lot by imposing order on nature?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 10:46:16 No.7249757 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7249854

>>7249609
If he had an editor to cut out 70% of the novel it would have been a solid copy of Fritz Leiber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 11:13:51 No.7249854 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7249869

>>7249757
i wish they didn't cut out the rape, gay and incest.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 11:18:48 No.7249869 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7250792

>>7249854
So does our general have it's first meme?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 14:49:41 No.7250792 Report Delete

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>>7249869
If we don't force it. If we just let the rape, gay and incest flow naturally.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:00:09 No.7250824 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7251022

>>7249708
Lest Darkness Fall by de Camp and The Deadly Mission of Phineas Snodgrass by Pohl, but I think what you'd like best is Tunnel in the Sky by Heinlein.

Alternately, I've been getting into Patricia C. Wrede's Thirteenth Child series, sort of an Alvin Maker kind of magical American frontier that focuses more on the magic and wildlife.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:53:47 No.7251022 Report Delete

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>>7250824

Thanks, the de Camp and Heinlein novels sound great. I'll check them out

Anyone else, don't be afraid to recommend other books

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:54:39 No.7251026 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253369

Some of you highprinces are alright
Don't go anywhere on Roshar tomorrow
Happening spanreeds will be sent tomorrow morning

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 16:15:52 No.7251103 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272929

>>7249410
Why are you memeing the comment... although it does match what happened.

Raped by road thugs and have your virginity taken.
Buggered by your brother in arms after you won your first victory
Have daddy tenderize your cunny because all of your older sisters ran away... now you a messed up bitch

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 20:27:37 No.7252269 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7252331

anyone around here read prince of nothing?
opinions on it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 20:38:14 No.7252331 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253091

>>7252269
Rape.
Gay.
Incest.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 20:39:52 No.7252343 Report Delete

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Reminder to read Footfall and go to the zoo and punch an elephant in the face.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 21:08:06 No.7252456 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7252518 >>7252571 >>7252651 >>7253121 >>7255336 >>7255389 >>7284110

Why has fantasy drifted away from coming of age, adventure fantasy? It's a lot better to watch a character grow and overcome adversity rather than get dropped into the middle of an established character's story.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 21:21:26 No.7252513 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7247716
It's terrible, in a plethora of ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 21:22:14 No.7252518 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7252456
Because Westerners are deathly afraid of trying something old. Meanwhile the Japs are in the process of elevating the trapped-in-an-MMO novel to high art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 21:31:47 No.7252571 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7254220

>>7252456
best be trollin nigga, starting in the middle of an established story is most patrish, if u had started with the greeks u woulda knew that

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 21:52:06 No.7252651 Report Delete

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>>7252456
Trends happen. Things change.

I've been working on a series that starts with the MC at 14 and ends with her being near 150. Its sci-fi though, not fantasy but I think you get the point.
If you want to see more coming of age stories you might have to look for them. There's probably some good stuff out there by small authors looking for an audience.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 22:04:52 No.7252707 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7252768 >>7255691

Who should I go to if I want to get a fantasy novel published? Every agency I check out seems to have "no fantasy/sci-fi submissions" as a rule.

That and they don't take children's books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 22:21:15 No.7252768 Report Delete

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>>7252707
Tor and Gollancz are two big ones I believe

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 23:36:29 No.7253091 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253141

>>7252331
Anon. If you somehow force this into a meme I would be touched, knowing that you used my post as a template.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 23:44:18 No.7253121 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255555

>>7252456
Codex Alera by Jim Butcher
Night Angel by Brent Weeks
Lightbringer by Bent Weeks
Let the right one in by John Ajvide Lindqvist
Lolita Lel
The Broken Empire by Mark Lawrence
The Abhorsen Series by Garth Nix
The Book of the New Sun by Gene Wolfe
The Demon Cycle by Peter V. Brett
The Gentleman Bastard Sequence by Scott Lynch(kinda)
The Long Price Quartet by Daniel Abraham

All coming of age. Follows from youth to adulthood.
Enjoy

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 23:45:30 No.7253126 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253147

Which writer predicted future tech the best?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 23:49:49 No.7253141 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253310

>>7253091
It wasn't just me. Team effort.

>Earth about to be wiped by asteroids
>Hillary uses one nuke to clear out the Venezuelans and let one more launch out of French Guiana
>This is the only nuke used on Earth
>Nobody built an Orion death fortress to secure humanity's future, we almost died with all of our nukes in the silos
You're killing me, Stephenson.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 23:52:00 No.7253147 Report Delete

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>>7253126

I hate to have to say it

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:12:46 No.7253230 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253239 >>7266045

Anyone else looking forward to Story of Your Life being made into a movie?
Just me probably...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:15:02 No.7253239 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253257

>>7253230
who is this dick sheath

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:22:17 No.7253255 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253317 >>7254138

>>7248828
It flies off the rails after book 3 and devolves into an excuse for Brett to wank over his worldbuilding. The odds of this series reaching a satisfying conclusion are middling, but either way, I read part of The Skull Throne and dropped that shit. The last thing the series needed was more new characters and side-conflicts when there were already established and more interesting ones to play with in the first place. In a way, it made me feel like I was reading the middle Wheel of Time books again - the stuff I really wanted to see was off-camera and hundreds of pages away, bookending a ten ton slab of horse shit I didn't care about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:22:37 No.7253257 Report Delete

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>>7253239
What happens when asian pussy gets shaved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:38:34 No.7253310 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7253324

>>7253141
As a fag from Guyana(not French Guiana), I literally smiled when they nuked Venezuela..... but me being right there next to the cunts I got Nuked too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:40:57 No.7253317 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7254138

>>7253255
But you liked when Harl raped his daughter right?

It was hot when she got used to it and willingly let her pussy be used.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:42:33 No.7253324 Report Delete

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>>7253310
It's cool, you would have been fried right after anyway. Because Stephenson didn't have the rocks to make the Cloud Ark a flotilla of nuke-driven high-population spinships.

The book we could have had.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:56:22 No.7253369 Report Delete

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>>7251026
I shall be known as the Highprince of Shitposting

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 06:26:00 No.7254138 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7254229

>>7253255
Anon here again, thinking about what a shit turn the series took makes me so mad I have to talk about it some more. The and second books are actually good. Brett handles having a child protagonist really well, and it's worth reading the first book just to see how he does it. The second book expands neatly on the conflict introduced in the first; it's a worthy sequel. But the third book devotes most of its running time to the backstory of a character you probably don't care about, while moving the overall plot forward by inches, and the fourth book does the same shit. It really fucks my shit up to see what could have been a great series, solid throughout, become a wankfest. A shitty book from step one I can forgive, shit will always be shitty, but wasted potential? Can't stand it.

>>7253317
Especially when all her sisters can hear, and other people in the village know and nobody does anything about it? Yeah, maybe a little.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 06:44:15 No.7254172 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7254234 >>7255418

THAT SHADOWS OF SELF ENDING THO FAM

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 07:10:16 No.7254220 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255252 >>7255322

>>7252571
>le old people did it so it must be patrician meme

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 07:16:15 No.7254229 Report Delete

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>>7254138
I am taking about the last one, Arlen's wife. She spread her legs and took it like a champ for a time, but couldn't live like that forever.

I still get stiff thinking about her submitting that prime teen pussy to daddy.

Wish I knew a girl with daddy issues in my youth, that would take me behind the playground and let me stick her.(I knew girls with daddy issues, but they didn't want me to stick them. Probably thought I couldn't match up to their daddy.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 07:17:50 No.7254234 Report Delete

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>>7254172
Wax was a Zombie(something that liked to eat corpses) fucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 14:02:46 No.7255252 Report Delete

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>>7254220
Old people did genre fiction too, and for that we know the Greeks were turboplebeian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 14:29:22 No.7255322 Report Delete

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>>7254220
Tails Gets Trolled is the most patrician piece of writing since War and Peace.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 14:34:35 No.7255336 Report Delete

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>>7252456
>coming of age
literally reddit

Gaskun !!LKQ0Koj4uFz

Gaskun !!LKQ0Koj4uFz Mon 19 Oct 2015 14:53:55 No.7255389 Report Delete

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>>7252456
I've got this one covered. MC starts at 15-18 book 1, book 2 starts at the age of 35 and gives the back story of 18-35 across the next 6 books, and uses some time play and matrix-y cyberspace "technobabble" to have the story conclude long after their death.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 14:55:10 No.7255395 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255400 >>7255420 >>7255474 >>7258583

>>7246345
I'm currently reading Latro in the Mist by Gene Wolfe. What is /lit/'s opinion of it? I only ever hear you lot chat about BotNS., which I read and thought was great, I think I prefer latro though

Where should I go after Latro? Was considering the Wizard Knight, and I'm sure it'll be good too, but I don't know, something about modern day kiddo in an arthurian world really puts me off for some reason.

Also, can I get some recommendations? I think my favourite fantasy authors are Tolkien, Le Guin and Gene Wolfe. Folks that don't do it for me:

>Robert Jordan
Started well, but books begin to drag when there are entire books where fuck all happens
>GRR Martin
gritty to the point of caricature, plus similar problems to above (not as bad though)
>Erikson
seems like he wrote the first malazan book because he loved his myths and legends so much, which isn't necessarily a bad thing when the actual book has an engaging plot to back it up. I wasn't so engaged.
>Sanderson
Read Mistborn. At risk of sounding like an ass, the prose, plot and characters all made me cringe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 14:57:49 No.7255400 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255418 >>7255516

>>7255395
You could read the prologue to Way of Kings and judge if Sanderson's writing improved enough for you to read him.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:04:26 No.7255418 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255516

>>7254172
>that feel when you're dead inside and endings like this don't even come close to phasing you
I'm hoping some of the later Cosmere HAPPENINGS will blow my mind.

>>7255400
To add onto what this anon said, Stormlight does still retain a lot of repetition (like you would notice in Mistborn with characters repeating the same actions often, main female characters being written the same, stuff like that.)

Also Way of Kings is solid but it does have acknowledged pacing issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:06:39 No.7255420 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255516 >>7264128

>>7255395
I've recently read Latro; It's excellent and certainly a treat for all those who've read their greeks. You could always read the latest Latro book: Soldier of Sidon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:22:24 No.7255474 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255516

>>7255395
Wolfe never quite did something better than New Sun because I think it is the culmination of his entire life and work, like Dostoevsky with TBK, but he didn't die after it.
All other works were not as good, which isn't to say they weren't good, Wizard Knight is what YA should look like, while reading it I had a blast, it's like those boyhood games and dreams about knights and wizards I used to play or watch cartoons about, but really taken on another level.
Also try Dick and Lem, aside the ones you already mentioned are the best in SFF. The 4 later on are either really bad like Erikson or fun pulp like Martin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:36:34 No.7255516 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255526 >>7255528 >>7255532 >>7255539 >>7255597 >>7255658

>>7255400
>>7255418
Maybe I should give him another shot at some point. He writes so much, that he's probably come a long way. One thing though, is Way of Kings going to be a long series? I'm loathe to begin another 5+ series, with each book being 400+ pages, especially if the full series isn't out yet. I feel as though those books aren't satisfying individually a lot of the time.
>>7255420
I hadn't realised there was another Latro book, I'll have to check that out. Is it an Urth of the New Sun type deal?
>>7255474
I got a bit confused; which 4 are you referring to?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:39:15 No.7255526 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255554

>>7255516
Yeah don't listen to the Sanderson fanboys. He's a trash tier writer through and through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:39:40 No.7255528 Report Delete

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>>7255516
I'm yet to read it so I've no idea of it's quality, but I've heard it's good and Wolfe made it of his own will (he released it 20 years after Soldier of Sidon; I've heard it ends with yet another cliff-hanger, so another book may be made some day).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:40:38 No.7255532 Report Delete

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>>7255516
Cuckderson, GRUMM, Erikson and Jordan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:42:02 No.7255539 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255546 >>7255596

>>7255516
Oh don't start TWoK then.
It's planned to be 10 books and only 2 of those are out so far. They both reach 1000 pages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:44:10 No.7255546 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255554

>>7255539
Stuff like that is bound to be trash.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:48:29 No.7255554 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255603

>>7255526
>>7255546
Wow someone's buttblasted

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:48:37 No.7255555 Report Delete

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>>7253121
Can you give me some old ones with the same setting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:00:19 No.7255590 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255594

Anything immersive with hints if profundity, but not too challenging? I'm reading Plato and learning Art History, plus studying biology, and I'd like something to read a long side that is good, but not mentally draining.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:01:34 No.7255594 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255601

>>7255590
The Wizard Knight
Solaris
Ubik

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:02:00 No.7255596 Report Delete

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>>7255539
Ah. We'll see then. Maybe in a few years. It's just that I've got to finish WoT and GoT already, and I feel like they seriously suffer from diminishing returns as the books go on. I have to finish what I start, but it isn't really fun at this point.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:02:41 No.7255597 Report Delete

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>>7255516
Stormlight Archive is going to be his first (at this rate, only) 'epic' with ten books total. There will be both an in-world and real life time gap between Books 5 and 6 (modern Mistborn will be written during this time, probably some other shit as well.)

If you get into the meta, you'll end up reading them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:03:36 No.7255601 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7257814

>>7255594
Cheers mate. Is Ubik a good intro to Dicky?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:03:59 No.7255603 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7255622 >>7255691 >>7256310 >>7272746

>>7255554
>I posted it again!

Getting published in Fantasy is extremely easy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:10:24 No.7255622 Report Delete

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>>7255603
Let me see your empire of published fantasy books then lad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:23:22 No.7255658 Report Delete

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>>7255516
>I feel as though those books aren't satisfying individually a lot of the time.
He writes each Stormlight book as a trilogy. Most cliffhangers are resolved at the end, and most of the dangling threads are plainly part of the next book. He's very professional about that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 16:35:54 No.7255691 Report Delete

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>>7255603
>Getting published in Fantasy is extremely easy.
That is why this >>7252707 anon asked for help huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 19:26:59 No.7256310 Report Delete

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>>7255603

How so?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 20:06:29 No.7256489 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7256775

>>7248553
the first one was great, the sequels were garbage.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 21:20:41 No.7256775 Report Delete

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>>7256489
Redemption Ark was fucking stellar you shut your whore mouth.

Absolution Gap was bretty cool up until that ending which felt forced and rushed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 23:15:57 No.7257121 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258601 >>7258703 >>7258716

I really like adventure fantasy and exploring.

Are there any books about like, some guy on a journey into unknown lands, maybe not necessarily trying to save the world?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 02:28:40 No.7257684 Report Delete

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>>7248352
It's not necessary that one is better than the other, though... it's more the difference between classical, highbrow art and cutting-edge street level art. Michelangelo vs. Banksy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 03:25:29 No.7257814 Report Delete

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>>7255601
No, but Androids and High Castle are. Then Scanner Darkly and Ubik, then Palmer Eldrich and Valis

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 07:54:30 No.7258316 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7283154

I read Rick Riordan norse book to see how norse culture was.

Was loki really Odin's blood brother? That means the comics are wrong?

Did loki really give birth to a horse....

Did Freya really fuck maggots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:06:19 No.7258559 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258604 >>7259003 >>7269449

What does /lit/ think about Iain Banks' the Culture novels? Are they worth buying?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:14:04 No.7258583 Report Delete

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>>7255395
Judging on your taste keep reading older authors like Peake, Donaldson etc, and stay away from modern multi-volume series. I wouldn't bother trying Sanderson again.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:18:27 No.7258593 Report Delete

Quoted By:

How do I get into writing?
English is only my 3rd language and I want to improve my active vocab and more easily express myself so I figured I'd try my hand at writing short stories and seeing where that takes me over time. But where do I start? I've only really read the Silmarillion and the Stormlight books so far, so I have no experience in SF. I'm gonna try either writing 'originals' or fanfics of universes I already know well. How do I start? Do I brainstorm ideas first and pick and choose from those? Do I make everything up as I go along the writing process?
Do I just forget about everything and write whatever my fingers tell me?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:20:12 No.7258601 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258607 >>7258688

>>7257121
Iron Council by China Mieville has a bit of that
The Half Made World by Felix Gilman
Stephen King's Dark Tower series

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:21:13 No.7258604 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258714 >>7258740 >>7258778

>>7258559
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Culture Series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:22:06 No.7258607 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258674 >>7258702

>>7258601

>China Mieville

Might as well have recommended a wander in a garbage dump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:54:00 No.7258674 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7258607
>a wander in a garbage dump.
That must be your mom who's a whore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:58:13 No.7258688 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258702

>>7258601
Hey mate is the City & the City, Embassytown, Perdido Street station and Scar by Mieville worth reading?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:03:57 No.7258702 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258734 >>7258757

>>7258607
Not a fan?

>>7258688
Haven't read the first two but Perdido and Scar are worth reading. He's not a great plot guy but has built a really cool, weird world and has some interesting characters especially in the Scar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:04:11 No.7258703 Report Delete

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>>7257121
Lankhmar series by Fritz Leiber
The Wizard Knight by Gene Wolfe
Left Hand of Darkness by Ursula le Guin

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:08:38 No.7258714 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7258604
Stop being lame, Anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:08:49 No.7258716 Report Delete

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>>7257121
Rendezvous with Rama from Clarke. It is a strange thing on space instead of a mythical land, but it seems to suit what you asked.

Also, Jules Verne in general. Journey to the Center of the Earth and 20000 Leagues Under The Sea, more specifically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:15:06 No.7258734 Report Delete

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>>7258702
>Haven't read the first two
Do it damn you. The best of his work so far.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:16:38 No.7258740 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258791

>>7258604
Huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:24:25 No.7258757 Report Delete

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>>7258702
>PSS
>Scar
Thanks mate! I'll add them to my reading list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:34:22 No.7258778 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258791

>>7258604
Shart back to /b/, fuckface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:42:16 No.7258791 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7258810

>>7258778
>>7258740
>being this new

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 10:50:37 No.7258810 Report Delete

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>>7258791
>being an absolute fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 12:05:13 No.7259003 Report Delete

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>>7258559
The Excession novel is so good, it makes Clarke's Randezous with Rama a look like child's writing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 15:47:52 No.7259652 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7259706 >>7259708 >>7260113 >>7262943

>>7246345

are those recommendations good?

I don´t want to waste my time

thank you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 15:59:52 No.7259706 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7259652
Some are a bit dodgy, better to ask in the thread. What are you looking for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 15:59:56 No.7259708 Report Delete

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>>7259652
I've only read about half the SF chart and much less for fantasy, but yes, they are good - overwhelmingly the best sci fi and fantasy available is on there

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 17:20:28 No.7260076 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7260130

So once film studios start trying to cash in on Star Wars 7s success, what are some Space Operas you think will be adapted?

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 17:32:33 No.7260113 Report Delete

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>>7259652
Yes, the charts are very good. Although I don't know how you can read them being that tiny. Here's a larger version of the SF Guide.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 17:37:02 No.7260130 Report Delete

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>>7260076
I'd like to see a new Dune movie.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 17:46:53 No.7260159 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7262919

Anybody got a reccomendation?

I want to read something where a group goes on a journey. Fantasy please.

Read Dragonlance and Wheel of Time where such a thing happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 19:12:07 No.7260433 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7262538

hey /sffg/, any idea where I can find something that qualifies as "optimistic cyberpunk?"

I mean specifically a setting that has cyberpunk's technology and earthbound setting, but where the problems in the story don't come from a dystopic regime or a dead earth. I've been nostalgic for Dennou Coil and Summer Wars lately

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 00:10:39 No.7261710 Report Delete

Quoted By:

wtf is ubik about?
it's full of ads

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:29:50 No.7262538 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7263581

>>7260433
Down and Out in the Magic Kingdom.

It's hippie message fic tho. And you've got good taste. Have you finished YKK?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 08:21:31 No.7262919 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7260159
Dark Tower by Stephen King.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 08:29:41 No.7262943 Report Delete

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>>7259652
It's overall good but doesn't point you to which works are the best of the bunch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 12:06:11 No.7263462 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7263621 >>7263668

Hi guys! Recommend some good high quality writing sci-fi of the decade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 12:44:51 No.7263581 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7262538
ykk?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 12:54:40 No.7263621 Report Delete

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>>7263462
Of the last decade? I would recommend Mieville, who I think is the best young SF writer producing work right now. His best work is also some of his more concise stuff - try The City & the City or Embassytown. His longer, more verbose Bas-Lag novels are interesting if overstuffed too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 13:11:58 No.7263668 Report Delete

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>>7263462
Mieville, but that doesn't mean that much.
Also Wolfe since he is still pumping out books, one came out yesterday.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 14:36:04 No.7263904 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7273608

>brilliant /lit/<

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:34:59 No.7264128 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7264149

>>7255420

How historically accurate is Latro? I've had it in my bookshelf for like a year, still on my backlog

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:42:36 No.7264149 Report Delete

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>>7264128
Wolfe has a erudite knowledge of Ancient Greek culture and society; so it's accurate in terms of setting and how things are represented. It's not accurate for the obvious reasons, like it being a fictional story with fantastical elements.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:02:45 No.7264197 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7264203 >>7264210 >>7266251 >>7277621

>>7246345
>>7260113
>>Fantasy
Military Fantasy should be added.
I'm thinking of books that included military strategies, tactics, use of resources and weapons, etc.
Not just books that have big armies and big battles.

>Black Company
>Traitor Son
>Powder Mage
>Shadow Campaign
>Codex Alera

>>Sci-Fi
You can probably do the same. Add Military Sci-Fi and/or Space (Naval) Battles sub-genre(s)

>Starship Trooper
>Armor
>Forever War
>Old Man's war

>Honor Harrington
>Lost Fleet
>Legacy Fleet
>Halo (Some of it)

Maybe the Military Sci-fi is a bit iffy

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:06:31 No.7264203 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7264253

>>7264197
>>Powder Mage

I read the first and it was bretty good, does the series hold up?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:09:26 No.7264210 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7264253

>>7264197
That by no means deserves to be on the same list with any good book.
I mean here on /lit/ we like to shit on The Martian and GRRM, but Scalzi is worse than both by faaaaaaaaaaaaar

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:11:24 No.7264223 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7264459 >>7267535

Just finished my 4th Asimov book , Robots of Dawn.... Guess I am a pleb because it was utter drudgery with lame sex overtones sprinkled everywhere. Just trying to get to Foundation and I am so tired of this whodunits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:19:36 No.7264253 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7264271

>>7264203
>I read the first
hahaha, same here.
I started the second, and it's pretty good, but haven't finished it wasn't in the mood at the time

>>7264210
I like the first two Old Man's war books, sue me

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:24:40 No.7264271 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7264289

>>7264253
I like Horus Heresy. Doesn't mean I want it on a recommended SF reading list.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:28:44 No.7264289 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7264271
Ah. I understand.
I was mostly showing it as an example.
I would prefer a Naval Battle sub-genre than a general Military Sci-Fi, since so much sci-fi is military in a way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:58:45 No.7264459 Report Delete

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>>7264223
just go read Foundation, there is no need to read every Asimov
To be honest most of his stories drag a lot, even if they're pretty original for its time

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 19:15:55 No.7265140 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7268323 >>7274744

In honor of Marty's arrival, recommend me some time travel stuff.

Preferably (though by no means obligatorily) with a complex, but not convoluted plot and no bootstrap paradox bullshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 19:17:28 No.7265142 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7265713 >>7265785

What's the best "standard" fantasy aside from LOTR? By which I mean young heroes teaming up and going on an adventure through a world they're exploring for the first time with the reader, with or without fantasy races. I'm reading The Eye of the World and it's just not cutting it for some reason; I'm thinking it's the shallow, unlikable characters (aside from Perrin and Nynaeve).

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:37:35 No.7265713 Report Delete

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>>7265142

You could try Codex Alera or the Belgariad for coming-of-age stuff

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:52:41 No.7265785 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7265803 >>7266433 >>7271067

>>7265142
Earthsea. It's better than Tolkein tbh

His Dark Materials too

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:57:34 No.7265803 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7265808

>>7265785
>His Dark Materials too

tipsfedora.jpg

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 22:00:03 No.7265808 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7267547

>>7265803
I don't really get it. It's a really deeply Catholic work even if it's critical of religion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 22:08:47 No.7265844 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7265848

Can someone recommend Asimov and Huxley tier writing of 2010 to 2015?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 22:10:01 No.7265848 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7266042

>>7265844
You mean outdated and boring?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:05:04 No.7266042 Report Delete

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>>7265848
I mean new and interesting. Really bored reading Asimov and Huxley's writing. Wan't new with same ideas but high quality stuff written between 2010 to 2015.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:05:35 No.7266045 Report Delete

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>>7253230
The Ted Chiang story? Maybe I should read it, I've had it sitting on my shelf for a few weeks now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:10:54 No.7266067 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7266077

>>7260113
Why are old book covers so much better than modern ones?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:15:57 No.7266077 Report Delete

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>>7266067
It's because mordern people tend to like old covers and vise versa. Science.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:17:43 No.7266085 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Name some rad sci-fi authors of the decade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:26:25 No.7266144 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7266149 >>7267554

If I get an idea for a scifi story that I want to write, how can I know if it hasn't been done before? Or are ideas copied accidentally often just because of how much scifi comes out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:27:15 No.7266149 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7266180

>>7266144

Well, what's your idea?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:32:06 No.7266180 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7266223

>>7266149
Nothing in particular I'm thinking of now, but occasionally one will hit me and my first thought is that I doubt its original (even thinking of something independently, once its published and you learn it's been done, what can you do?). I just wonder if that happens when people try releasing scifi. Fiction in general I guess, but scifi and fantasy seems especially popular right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:41:13 No.7266223 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7266240

>>7266180

There's a million copycat stories out there and nobody cares.

As long as you don't rip off a big name like dune or androids dreaming of electric sheep nobody will give a shit.

The real challenge is making your story good beyond the original concept. That's where your worth as a writer will be revealed.

It's not about having an idea, it's about producing a story from that idea. In a way, that's a lot more unique than the idea itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:46:52 No.7266240 Report Delete

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>>7266223
Neat, that's good to know anyhow. I don't really read scifi, or fiction in general, I just think of things all the time so I guess I could step on some toes without realizing it.

I'm not a good writer at all, I was just wondering really. I'm going to start working on it though when ideas come, just by cranking out crap for myself only to practice and checking out some writing guides also.

Thanks

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:49:28 No.7266251 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7268367

>>7264197
>Legacy Fleet

The hell is that?

>google

Oh it's Battlestar Galactica.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 00:32:20 No.7266433 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7265785
After all Ursula was inpired by LotR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:14:22 No.7267504 Report Delete

Quoted By:

This was on page 8, why is /lit/ moving so gast nowadays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:21:40 No.7267535 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7264223
Robots of Dawn written much later than the other Robots books, and was sort of tacked on. Supposedly the awkward sexual content was in response to criticisms that his characters were too asexual.

To be honest, the only essential Asimov reading is Foundation. Just go straight to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:25:02 No.7267547 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7267567

>>7265808
HDM was OK. I admit I was hooked by The Golden Compass, but Pullman couldn't hold it together as he increased the stakes and the scale.

Comparing it favorably to The Lord of the fucking Rings, or Earthsea for that matter, is absurd.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:29:30 No.7267554 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7266144
The only way to know is to read huge amounts of sci-fi. Honestly, I wouldn't worry about it--just write what you know and leave it to someone else. Even if you come up with the same concept as someone else, you'll probably execute it differently, and even if you don't, you'll probably have a different style.

Lots of even experienced writers will crank something out for an anthology by putting their own personal "spin" on a common trope. It's not a big deal unless you blatantly rip off something iconic.

Even if it's unpublishable because of similarity to existing work, you'll become a more experienced writer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:35:56 No.7267567 Report Delete

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>>7267547

I liked the first book but the rest of them were way too preachy. It felt like an exercise in the author espousing his views first, and a story second.

Also random stupid bad end for no reason.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:42:35 No.7267581 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7267606 >>7269499

When is the new aspect emperor/second apocalypse/totally not ripping off the crusade chronicles book coming out?

I was hoping to read it in 2015.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:56:04 No.7267606 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7267613

>>7267581
Apparently (and take this with a grain of salt) the first half of is coming out in July.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:59:25 No.7267613 Report Delete

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>>7267606
How fucking hard is it to take a history book and replace all the real names with fake ones, sprinkling some elves for good measure?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 09:49:11 No.7267722 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7268289 >>7268290 >>7268326 >>7268639 >>7271274

Nevermind the story and writer, I dare you to find better cover art than Mistborn's gollancz release.
you can't

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:03:49 No.7268261 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7247123
Yes. Flat characters, interesting setting and ideas, almost nonexistent personal dynamics, workmanlike prose. It's a good example of competent hard sci-fi. Despite its shortcomings I'm rather looking forward to reading the sequels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:12:26 No.7268278 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7269491

Is there such a thing as a fantasy novel focusing on a robot?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:18:30 No.7268289 Report Delete

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>>7267722
The art looks good on his books I agree. Too bad they a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:18:46 No.7268290 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7267722
I like the consistent style between the gollancz editions of sandersons.

In book covers generally though I'd have to s

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:20:12 No.7268295 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7268297 >>7272371 >>7276314

Actually, better question

What are some of the best sci-fi/fantasy books
where the two genres are balanced wonderfully between eachother

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:21:50 No.7268297 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7268295
Dune.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:29:49 No.7268323 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7265140
How about The Timemachine?

haven't read it, but i know basic story, and i don't think it's any complex or paradox

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:30:33 No.7268326 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7267722
Those are beautiful
His art reminds me of James Jeans art

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 13:46:09 No.7268367 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7266251
>Oh it's Battlestar Galactica.
hahaha, pretty much
the ship was even being converted into a museum piece

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 14:01:27 No.7268417 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7248828
Absolute horseshit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 15:08:55 No.7268639 Report Delete

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>>7267722
Cheerleader effect tbh fam, it wouldn't look as cool individually.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 15:38:34 No.7268808 Report Delete

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>>7268603
is this satire? is this like the onion? anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:39:30 No.7269449 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7277980 >>7278446

>>7258559
Probably my favorite series of books anon, just dont start with phebas and you might make it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:45:57 No.7269491 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7268278
Psalms of Isaak

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:48:09 No.7269499 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7269679

>>7267581
it'll come out right around the time the last sword and shadows book comes out, and when grrm finishes A song of Ice and Fire.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 18:18:23 No.7269679 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7273108

>>7269499
>lel
Don't know of Sword and Shadow
But I know we will read the last GURM book when we join him in life after death

Is the Aspect Emperor the thousand cuck thought series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:01:33 No.7270931 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Can't believe i have to bump this.
So much more redshitor shit posters meme posting than usual.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:16:39 No.7270988 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7270996 >>7286168

Anyone read this yet? I fucking loved it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:18:42 No.7270996 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272028

>>7270988

What's it about? Sell me on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:39:16 No.7271067 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7265785

Earthsea was terrible in my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:39:38 No.7271068 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7271076 >>7271605 >>7272355 >>7276338

Decide what I should read next, /sffg/

>The Fall of Hyperion
>Foundation
>The Eyes of the Overworld
>The Two Towers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:42:42 No.7271076 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7271068

Foundation but only the first couple of books. The remainder of the series is nonsensical drug-addled garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:48:47 No.7271097 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7271153

Anyone here read After Life?

http://sifter.org/~simon/AfterLife/

It's about the story of the first trans-human mind being uploaded from a body to a computer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 23:59:00 No.7271153 Report Delete

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>>7271097
You ever read Neal Asher? Try some of his books.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 00:36:14 No.7271274 Report Delete

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>>7267722
>What if the Dark Lord won?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 03:11:18 No.7271605 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7271068
The Eyes of the Overworld man! Cugel trumps all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:08:51 No.7272028 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272286

>>7270996
It's about an interplanetary future where people have been decided into colors and the "golds" rule over all of them. I know how that sounds but it completely shattered my expectations. The character writing, world building and setting is really good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 07:43:48 No.7272110 Report Delete

Quoted By:

A Borrowed Man is okay thus far. I hoped for more, but I like it more than the second half of long sun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 09:38:01 No.7272286 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272499

>>7272028

So it's Divergent?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 10:07:42 No.7272355 Report Delete

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>>7271068
Obviously finish LotR if you've already read Fellowship. Jesus Christ, dude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 10:14:10 No.7272371 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272925 >>7272935 >>7273287

>>7268295
That's science fantasy. I always recommend The Gone-Away World by Nick Harkaway, it's fantastically underrated, but it's probably not what you're looking for.

Dark Tower
Richard Morgan's "A Land Fit For Heroes" books
And of course The Book of the New Sun
They're all science fantasy ie. they have robots and magic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 11:02:33 No.7272499 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7272286
It's not bland so no

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 12:21:27 No.7272746 Report Delete

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>>7255603
I mean, there's certainly more of a market and it's easier for authors established within the field to make a living at than most other forms of fiction, but that also means more people try to get published this way.

I don't have any data, but if I had to guess, fantasy publishers probably see more submissions per published book than most other kinds of publishers, not to mention that are only a handful of publishers in the fantasy business.

Think about it this way, typically only fantasy publishers will publish fantasy-genre work. However, just about any other kind of publisher will publish any other kind of work.

I guess what I'm trying to say if that you're an uninformed hack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 12:42:03 No.7272795 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272898

What does /lit/'s sci-fi connoisseurs think about Iain Banks' Culture series?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 13:25:04 No.7272898 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272929

>>7272795
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Culture Series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 13:36:53 No.7272925 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7272946 >>7275445

>>7272371
>Richard Morgan's "A Land Fit For Heroes" books
Daily reminder this book is full gay, exquisite details about men putting their phallus in other men's anus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 13:39:29 No.7272929 Report Delete

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>>7272898
Do those things apply to the series? Where did it happen?

Can you explain it like this >>7251103 ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 13:43:21 No.7272935 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7275445

>>7272371
>I liked the rape, gay and incest in the A Land Fit For Heroes series

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 13:46:38 No.7272946 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7273115 >>7274012

>>7272925
>is full gay, exquisite details about men putting their phallus in other men's anus.
I was caught of guard by this, but it wasn't all that bad. Gotta read the other books.
Morgan can definitely write some good sex scenes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 14:33:53 No.7273108 Report Delete

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>>7269679
Yes. It's a continuation of the story 20 or so years after after 1k folded thought

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 14:35:49 No.7273115 Report Delete

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>>7272946
I can't handle it anymore. I don't want to start the past book and have to read more angry gay sex

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Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 15:24:21 No.7273287 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7275445

>>7272371
What IS some good sci-fantasy? We really need a chart for that.

Or rather, what is some hard sci-fi that does futurology so well like Revelation Space?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 16:40:01 No.7273579 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7247104

Try K W Jeter - Infernal Devices (1987)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 16:41:06 No.7273582 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7247123
Yes.
It is THAT good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 16:46:26 No.7273608 Report Delete

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>>7263904
>brilliant

agreed, anon.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:02:57 No.7273913 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7274097 >>7284018

Any of you have read this? the times when someone mentions it it appears like shilling, but im interested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:32:19 No.7274012 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7274120

>>7273115
>>7272946
Is it realistic?

Do they take about shit coming out of the other guy's ass?
I mean you can't prep for it, so that means he has shit dick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:35:23 No.7274018 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7260113
Needs more Ballard and Lem, but p. good

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:39:41 No.7274036 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7274082 >>7276354

>writing my own fantasy
>realize it's just the witcher + berserk: nordic folklore edition

just fuck my shit up

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:51:56 No.7274082 Report Delete

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>>7274036
Once it has great world building, character depth, plot, character development and is told in a stable-easy flowing fashion you can make it work.

Nothing is original anymore, everything has been done. The trick is to make your idea wholly your own.

I've read many books and though "hey, this is something like [insert book] mixed with [insert movie] and a little bit of the character development in [insert comic]. But people still eat it up because the enjoyed it.

Write it, publish it and change as you grow in skill.

Jim Butcher and Brandon Sanderson's early works were so-so to down right repetitive, but if they can make it and become a internet name, you can too.

Work at it don't give up anon. There are little(imo) Nordic tales out there, everyone uses the Romans, Greeks and even Hindi gods as templates but I don't see much Nordic.

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Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:53:15 No.7274087 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Can anyone suggest some biopunk type stuff similar to Paul di Filippo's Fibofunk collection?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:54:49 No.7274097 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7273913
I read like half of it.
I dunno, it was okay.
I'm not really into science fiction and I just couldn't get excited about it so I dropped it. I guess in all fairness, I was in the middle of finals so I just kind of forgot about it.

The writing is really good, though.
If you like sci-fi, you'll probably like it a lot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 18:58:47 No.7274120 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7274452

>>7274012
It's been awhile since i read it, but it's pretty graphic, as is all of Morgan's work.
From what i can recall MC mentions something about being able to smell a slight shit smell when either he or the other person (demon/alien thing) spreads their asshole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 20:23:59 No.7274452 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7274120
I wanted to read this novel for years, but the detailed buttsex puts me off from getting it every time.

Can't I have a book without the author fulling 100+ pages in with detailed sex?

If I want erotic I would use the dump i have saved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 21:27:52 No.7274618 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7275683 >>7275712 >>7276052

How do I into Vorkosigan Saga? It's a fucking mess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 22:06:44 No.7274744 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7276357

>>7265140
'The Door into Summer' actually does almost exactly the same timeframe.

Also if you're a fan of 11-year old girls and cats you'll probably like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 22:09:25 No.7274750 Report Delete

Quoted By:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Land_of_the_Headless

I liked this book if you're into sci-fi, body horror and dystopian futures. Surprisingly good ending too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 02:39:07 No.7275445 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7272935
Well meme'd, friend!

>>7273287
>I need a chart for everything
Bit autistic.

>>7272925
Those bits are easy to skip tbh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:06:00 No.7275655 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I just finished reading the naked sun. I have read too the caves of steel. I really enjoyed both, although the three laws dont hold all the coherence I expected.
What about the rest of the robot series? Are they this good, worth reading?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:18:27 No.7275683 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7276052 >>7280505

>>7274618
You basically have three starting points.

Falling Free is set about 200 years before the events in the main saga. You can skip this easily, since it has relevance only well into the saga, and even then, you won't miss much if you haven't read this.

Shards of Honor is about Miles's mother and father, and how they met. Barrayar continues this at a later date.

The Warrior's Apprentice is the first Miles book.

So basically, unless you're a fanatical completist, start with either SoH or TWA. Whichever sounds interesting to you. I started with TWA and read in internal chronological order (from TWA on, mind you), and I enjoyed the series greatly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:33:12 No.7275712 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7280505

>>7274618
The answer is always to read in order of published date.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:25:32 No.7275928 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Was Perdido Street Station ever published in hardcover for US English editions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:31:09 No.7276052 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7280505

>>7274618
>>7275683

>I started with TWA and read in internal chronological order (from TWA on, mind you), and I enjoyed the series greatly.

This. Books chronologically prior to TWA have a bit too much romance for my tastes, but TWA and subsequent books are pretty awesome.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:04:45 No.7276133 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7276175 >>7276185 >>7276660 >>7276914 >>7280432

Are these any good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:19:35 No.7276158 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7249708
Try googling "the clockwork rocket".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:32:11 No.7276175 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7278440

>>7276133
why is the name of the author bigger than the title itself?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:43:40 No.7276185 Report Delete

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>>7276133
well he handles short story's pretty well but i never have read a novel made by him,worth checking out still.the witcher universe is interesting

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:54:44 No.7276314 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7268295
Dune
The Book of the New Sun
John Carter of Mars, if you're willing to go Old School.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:00:27 No.7276338 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7276555

>>7271068
You should finish The Lord of the Rings unless you just need to take a break, in which case you should definitely read The Eyes of the Overworld. Because holy lol that book is basically the diametric opposite of everything Tolkien was about in every way--subject matter, attitude, style. And it's an excellent read. If it doesn't get you into Vance, give up on him.

Foundation is good but you can tackle it later. Don't bother reading Hyperion sequels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:04:18 No.7276354 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7274036
Go for it man. Don't beat yourself up over your lack of ~originality~, because you're not trying to be some sperglord lit-fic author. Build a world and make it your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:05:24 No.7276357 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7274744
God damn, I forgot about The Door Into Summer. Seconding the recommendation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:06:52 No.7276360 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7276388

Anybody here read Blindsight by Peter Watts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:23:30 No.7276388 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7281749

>>7276360
Yup. It finally took the title of "most depressing sci-fi story I've ever read" from Ellison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 11:37:13 No.7276555 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7276338
I have already ready the very first Dying Earth and I found it to be very enjoyable, though he used a lot of words I needed to look up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:10:31 No.7276660 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7276133
Yeah, they're okay. I like the way he handles all kinds of fantasy tropes, and he has his own kind of humour.
The short stories were better, though, and I recommend you to read those first if you want to have any idea what's going on in the novels, and understand some of the characters and references.
And as far as I know, the last couple of books haven't been officially translated in English yet. I at least read fan translations.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:15:50 No.7276914 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7277576

>>7276133
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Witcher series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:34:31 No.7277376 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Daily reminder that if your book has a GRRM quote on its cover or anywhere else it's automatically trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:58:18 No.7277465 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7248352

I'd be upset about this, but then I remember reading a biography on Lovecraft that basically described him as a neckbeard in a way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:28:06 No.7277576 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7276914
There was rape and incest but what of the gay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:41:47 No.7277621 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7264197
if you're going to read any Halo, stay away from anything with the Spartans, they're overblown into super heroes. Contact Harvest was great, the Forerunner series was good too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:03:09 No.7277699 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Say I wanted to write someone dunking himself into a vat of sulfuric acid. Only his upper body, particular his chest, head, and right arm. He can afford to live through this due to his healing factor. What would the effects be? How different would he look afterwards?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:35:00 No.7277847 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7281662

This is the manliest series I've ever read. You spend 80% of the time reading about characters that are gruff, stoic and effective. Men ride off to battle with grim determination and all that, or glory in it like perfect vikings. Everyone is full of Sisu. Even the women are manly and face adversity head-on silently.

I kind of like it, actually.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:38:34 No.7277868 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Scientology

no, really

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 17:56:15 No.7277980 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7269449
Considdy gets a lot of shit but it would make a great action movie or mass effect clone

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:01:56 No.7278009 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7278227

>>7249609
>that part where he kills the fake actor troupe for raping those girls

damn son.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:27:04 No.7278116 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7249708
If you want nation building, read the Foundation series by Asimov

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:51:29 No.7278227 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7278009
Would any of you kind anons allow me to rape your 6/10 + sisters or mothers so i will be able to write about it?

I'm a kissless virgin, so you don't have to worry about disease. Of course i will come inside.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:45:15 No.7278440 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7278640

>>7276175

I neved got this gripe. Surely the author is more integral to the book's quality than its title?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:46:55 No.7278446 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7279068

>>7269449
>just dont start with phebas

Any reason for this? I got the three first books and I couldn't really get into the first one. Are the sequels more beginner-friendly?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:29:28 No.7278640 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7278440
Just pet peeves and autism showing.

Ignore those anons that get worked up about it, could also be massive amounts of OCD

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:40:43 No.7279068 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7278446
More friendly in general I guess. Phlebas is a real downer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:34:00 No.7280383 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284837

Anyone read Django Wexler?

Is he good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:04:58 No.7280432 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7276133
The only reason to ever read these instead of the hundreds of better similar books is if you are polish or a slav and suffer from that inbred nationalism they all share.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:45:36 No.7280505 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7275712
Bujold herself seems to prefer internal chronology.

>>7275683
>>7276052
Thanks, I'll take that into consideration

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:19:37 No.7280571 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7249708
Paladin of Shadows heh

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:21:58 No.7280576 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7280615 >>7281717 >>7282623

Tfw there is anything by Gene Wolfe translated to your language.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:37:18 No.7280615 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7280686

>>7280576
What faggot language do you speak, anon?

(upside down question mark like that faggot Jeb has) Que lingua de los maricones hablas, anon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:42:03 No.7280629 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7249708
There might be some in The Children of the Sky.
I have only just finished A Fire upon the Deep though so I can't be sure

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:47:25 No.7280644 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7280659 >>7281129

No mention of Charles Stross yet?
I recently finished Accelerando and The Rapture of the Nerds.
Both goor reads IMO

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:52:24 No.7280659 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7280644
*good

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:02:57 No.7280686 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7280615
brazilian portuguese

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:03:46 No.7281010 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284044

How is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:41:25 No.7281129 Report Delete

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>>7280644

What did you like about Accelerando? I read it recently and found it super boring, really lacking in both character and plot department.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:48:29 No.7281657 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7282834

>read a post-Earth sci-fi book
>women are somehow the overwhelmingly majority sex
>humanity is still there

Why is this a thing? Women are irrational, govern on muh feelings, and haven't significantly contributed to scientific advancement for the last ten thousand years.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:49:53 No.7281662 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7285397

>>7277847
It is a fucking great series.

Except for Ash. Ash is a whore. Fuck Ash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:04:26 No.7281717 Report Delete

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>>7280576
I'll start translating him into my language soon I hope

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:12:35 No.7281749 Report Delete

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>>7276388
the developers of SOMA recommended it together with "Permutation City" by Egan

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:21:41 No.7281968 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Whats a read that involves ruin exploration? I'm really into archaeology and shit, thats why...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 18:41:26 No.7282219 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7282563 >>7282581

I thought /lit/ was a genre fiction free zone? Not that I'm complaining mind you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 19:47:08 No.7282563 Report Delete

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>>7282219
Been here for at least 5 years, got a shit load of recommendations when i asked before.

It's just the pretentious e/lit/ist that shit things up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 19:50:01 No.7282581 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7282219
It's a meme that newfags misunderstood.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 19:59:51 No.7282623 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7280576
Read it in the original, you 7-1 faggot. The only possible translator for a Wolfe book would have to be someone who can properly translate Chesterton or Borges, and even at that, it'd still be a translation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 20:58:20 No.7282834 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7283985

>>7281657
>>women are somehow the overwhelmingly majority sex
>>humanity is still there
You mean how it is right now and it's leading to be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 22:10:57 No.7283154 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7283191 >>7284176

>>7258316
>Was loki really Odin's blood brother?
Depends on version. Mythology doesn't actually have a single canon.
>That means the comics are wrong?
When in doubt, assume the comics are wrong. Thor is supposed to be a redhead.
>Did loki really give birth to a horse....
Yes. He was a mare, and he gave birth to an eight legged horse.
>Did Freya really fuck maggots?
This one I don't know. I know she fucked some dwarves, but I don't think she did maggots. Possible, since Riordan does research his myths..

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 22:21:13 No.7283191 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7283197

>>7283154
we're dwarves supposed to be like maggots of the earth, always digging or something, and so saying she fucked maggots is the same as saying she fucked dwarves?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 22:22:35 No.7283197 Report Delete

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>>7283191
weren't*

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:44:30 No.7283874 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7283877 >>7283989 >>7284637

where to start with china mieville?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 01:44:56 No.7283877 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7283874
arms

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:24:56 No.7283985 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284161 >>7284229

>>7282834
Name a first world woman leader who hasn't turned her country into a complete cesspool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 02:26:04 No.7283989 Report Delete

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>>7283874
probably The City & the City, maybe Embassytown. both are easier (and imo better) than his more maximalist work (the Bas-Lag series), which is still worth reading. but at least you'll get an idea of whether or not you're into him

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:29:33 No.7284018 Report Delete

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>>7273913
What's this about? Transhumanism?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:43:46 No.7284044 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7281010
>>7281010
>>7281010
Terrific mate
I legitimately don't think I've ever read better dialogue. Every character is so immediately unique yet lifelike.
The plot is great too, but make sure you appreciate the dialogue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:25:56 No.7284110 Report Delete

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>>7252456
Coming of age is boring to write if you have no issues with your own coming of age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 06:55:48 No.7284161 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7283985
>bringing your sexist memes to the best thread on /lit/

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 07:02:35 No.7284176 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7283154
>This one I don't know. I know she fucked some dwarves, but I don't think she did maggots. Possible, since Riordan does research his myths..

No she fucked not some, but dozens of them, the maggot part was because Rick said Dwarves evolved from maggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 07:26:55 No.7284229 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284494

>>7283985
>not wanting a qt female leader leading the country
That's where you shitters are wrong.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 07:54:18 No.7284292 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284293 >>7284495 >>7284509 >>7286505

I've never read anything by him and about to start this. Am I fucked?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 07:55:25 No.7284293 Report Delete

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>>7284292
No it's standalone but there are eastereggs for cosmere fans.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 08:00:25 No.7284307 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284446

>>7246345
>kingkiller not in this list yet even something as shit as the assassin's apprentice is
Why does /lit/ hate this book? It's really not bad

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:08:24 No.7284446 Report Delete

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>>7284307
It's a god piece of absolute garbage. That does not mean Assassin's Apprentice is better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:32:50 No.7284494 Report Delete

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>>7284229
I want to fuck Angela Merkel so bad.... my dick hurts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:34:24 No.7284495 Report Delete

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>>7284292
I slogged through the first two books and I thought it was mediocre at best and way too slow. A lot of slow very boring parts, and not at all revolutionary. I don't recommend it. Although when the third book comes out I'll probably read that one too just to see what happens.

There are some really cool parts in it, but it's too much padding. I get that he's trying to start each novel slow and make it build slowly to a big climax like an avalanche, but man is some of it boring. Cool fight scenes tho.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:36:48 No.7284505 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284510 >>7284633

So when does this get good? I'm already halfway through this doorstop.

I just wanted to read something that would tide me over until The Winds Of Winter came out. Should I keep going or just drop it and read The Dagger And The Coin instead?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:38:30 No.7284509 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284647

>>7284292
I really liked it. What's opinion do you guys have?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:39:53 No.7284510 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284516

>>7284505
It's awful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:41:42 No.7284516 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7284527 >>7284552 >>7284605

>>7284510
Ok. I'll drop it. Do you guys recommend The Dagger And The Coin?

I've been using this website to help me find something to read while I wait for the new ASOIAF book:

http://bestfantasybooks.com/top25-fantasy-books.php

But I tried Malazan, hated that, tried Stormlight Archives, hated that, tried Kingkiller, hated that. Can anyone recommend something that's actually as good as ASOIAF?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:48:06 No.7284527 Report Delete

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>>7284516
None of those are good.
But good fantasy authors include Wolfe, Le Guin, Zelanzy, Fritz Leiber, Tolkien. I recommend Lankhmar series by Leiber.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:52:06 No.7284543 Report Delete

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Is there a good book where they journey into someone's dreams?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:52:17 No.7284544 Report Delete

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>>7284527
I tried reading Book Of The New Sun and couldn't make heads or tales of it - the writing was excellent though. I'll try it in a bit, but I think it's too advanced for me atm tbh fam. I'm an entry level fantasy guy. I started with ASOIAF.

I don't want to read classics in this particular genre. I want to read stuff without good guys and bad guys. I fucking HATE Tolkien (yes, I know he influenced GRRM)

I love classics in regular literature, like Tolstoy and Chekhov, but in terms of pure entertainment value plot and character based reading for fun, I need a modern author for fantasy.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:54:50 No.7284552 Report Delete

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>>7284516
Going through that list was painful, only Leiber, Le Guin and Tolkien were good, piled with the rest of YA/manchild trash

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:59:13 No.7284570 Report Delete

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>>7284552
It sounds like you're a fantasy elitist tbh fam. I love ASOIAF and want something like that, and there's nothing you can do about it. Tolkien fucking sucks.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:00:10 No.7284573 Report Delete

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Has anyone read Charles Stross' Glasshouse? Thoughts?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:02:45 No.7284578 Report Delete

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>>7284570
Tolkien is just about as good fantasy can get.
But yeah since you don't like good fantasy I guess that list can work.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:08:25 No.7284596 Report Delete

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>>7284578

That's pushing it. LOTR is good, but most of its goodness is formative. It defines concepts and earnestly turns them into a fantasy narrative and it laid a lot of important groundwork.

But honestly it's pretty simplistic, black-and-white stuff in a world that isn't particularly memorable except that it's the foundation of so much more.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:10:12 No.7284605 Report Delete

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>>7284516
Have you considered that maybe you don't actually like fantasy?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:19:31 No.7284630 Report Delete

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>>7284605
Yes. Like I said, I'm entry level. Although, when I read Stormlight, my favourite parts were the fantastical parts, with their magic powers and flying and stuff, and my least favourite parts were the human interaction/dialogue, character elements. With ASOIAF, it's the opposite.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:22:33 No.7284633 Report Delete

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>>7284505
>until The Winds Of Winter came out.
So you will be reading books to past time until you die?

>read The Dagger And The Coin instead?
Just like the Long Price Quartet was, The Dagger and Coin is historical fiction with "SMALL" hints of magic and the fantastical.

It was shit for me, but if you like history with a few glimpses of the magical(which is what GURM does) you can go for it.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:23:29 No.7284637 Report Delete

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>>7283874
Perdido Street Station

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:24:24 No.7284640 Report Delete

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>>7284638
New Thread

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:26:12 No.7284647 Report Delete

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>>7284509
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Stormlight Series.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:27:37 No.7284652 Report Delete

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>>7284544
Joe Abercrombie might be for you, start with The Blade Itself.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:33:01 No.7284668 Report Delete

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>>7284647
Read the book before you force the meme.

Seeing as it is Sanderson, there was no Rape or Incest... probably gay? I don't know.

I thought Shallan's secret was that her father diddled her. Had a hard on waiting for the reveal [spoiler IT NEVER CAME

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:35:08 No.7284680 Report Delete

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Read the book before you force the meme.

Seeing as it is Sanderson, there was no Rape or Incest... probably gay? I don't know.

I thought Shallan's secret was that her father diddled her. Had a hard on waiting for the reveal.
IT NEVER CAME

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:26:47 No.7284837 Report Delete

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>>7280383
>Django Wexler
I've only read the first book in the Shadow Campaign series and it's pretty good. I remember specially liking the the MC's. Gotta read the rest of the series

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:35:32 No.7285397 Report Delete

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>>7281662
Upset she cucked your self insert with hot snow elf dick?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 17:32:56 No.7286168 Report Delete

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>>7270988
I have that sitting on my shelf, but I still haven't touched it assuming it's YA shit. Damn, I need to check it out then.

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>>7284292
best fantasy i read in a decade
1000 pages and 1000 too short

reading a well written story set in a original world which isnt filled by tryhard edgy characters with now popular "gray" morals and a protagonist you can really understand was breath of fresh i really needed

it takes everything i love about the genre, the unique settings history and creatures, the feel of adventure and scale and does it right

i fucking swear if i read one more book about someone so fucking gray that he is basically a psychotic serial killer like under the read seas or shadow of a torturer i will ignore all other authors till this plague of shitty writing rolls over

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