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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:27:31 No.7280745 View Reply Report Delete

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What are your life expectations, /lit/? I'm being unrealistic if I want something else than having a job to pay a house, to have a wife and kids?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:29:06 No.7280750 Report Delete

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>>7280745
If "else" is being homeless than no.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:30:33 No.7280759 Report Delete

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For the dread to lift. To acquire a decent steady job that will allow me to pay my bills. Thanks to globalism and hypercompetition in the job market this is harder, harder, harder to attain :o)
Yay for global capitalism!

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:41:30 No.7280784 Report Delete

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I'd recommend you go for broke. I always wanted nothing from life and I got nothing and my life is harder to make work than it should. Just be ready to get less than you expected, because that will always be the case, if you expected to be king of the world and only get to count you're still pretty good.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:50:58 No.7280809 Report Delete

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the goal is career as writer. if that doesn't happen, college professorship. if I also can't attain that, and can't get a job other than menial or unconscionable labor, I'll drop out and run off into the wilderness or something.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:00:20 No.7280833 Report Delete

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>>7280759
leave the city you scum

the countryside needs your working bones

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:08:18 No.7280853 Report Delete

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>>7280745
i expect to die

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:12:57 No.7280865 Report Delete

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Expectations are damaging to the soul. I only hope, and even then I do so conservatively. Life is best lived in the moment anyway.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:16:55 No.7280869 Report Delete

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>>7280865
I've spent many years learning this lesson, but I agree wholeheartedly.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:20:10 No.7280878 Report Delete

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>>7280865
In spanish we have a saying "el hombre propone, dios dispone" the man proposes but god decides. I don't know if there's an english version, but it's a healthy way of thinking.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:20:55 No.7280882 Report Delete

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I want to be as expressive, confident, and visceral as I can be. I want to challenge myself constantly.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:28:35 No.7280902 Report Delete

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>>7280865
so you have no goals?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:29:58 No.7280905 Report Delete

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>move country,
>have 2 wives
>have kids with both

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:31:47 No.7280914 Report Delete

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>>7280745
I have this unhealthy expectation in my mind that I'm going to win the lottery and that will be the source of my happiness. I literally rely on this expectation to happen and serve me a reason to live.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:33:43 No.7280918 Report Delete

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>>7280878
There actually is an English version, but it isn't repeated nearly enough in Anglosphere.
>Men plan, Fate laughs

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:35:34 No.7280928 Report Delete

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>>7280902
Not him, but I don't think expectations and goals are the same at all, and he kinda said as much. You hope to achieve your goals, but it's wise to avoid staking your happiness on achieving them. That doesn't mean you don't really want those goals, just that the motivation has to come from discipline and not desperation.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:38:27 No.7280940 Report Delete

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>>7280745

None, really. I think I need $30k a year to keep living the way I do now, so a job that pays $30-40k would be nice. I want to travel, and I don't want a family, so this should be reasonably easy to achieve.

>>7280865

Also this.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:52:52 No.7280992 Report Delete

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>>7280865
that's beautiful, man.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:02:07 No.7281005 Report Delete

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>>7280878
>>7280918
Let there be no coffin-following
no decadent champagne wallowing
let there be no tearful greetings
no yellow ink on patient leather
in the sullen winter weather

Man proposes, God disposes
here amidst the wilting roses
drink the health of some warm girl
and let November eat the world

Give me never frostbite blisters
let us have no huddled whispers
sleep in strange familiar rooms
merely cheers bring us together
in the bitter winter weather

Man builds up and God destroys
in the quiet and the noise
hoard the things that still have worth
and let December ride the earth

Dark and silent stand the trees
howling winds bring Boreal freeze
headstones wear a cap of white
and warmth and life come to us rather
in the silent frozen weather

Man beseeches, God denies
in the night the grey owl cries
hide us from His dreadful sight
when January rules the night.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:12:02 No.7281036 Report Delete

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>>7280745
Did anyone else stopped having expectations after being disappointed again and again so much in childhood that you stopped giving a fuck?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:14:56 No.7281049 Report Delete

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>>7281036
I stopped expecting most consumer goods and people/status to make me happy, but it just cemented my attachment to things like family and durable items with personal meaning.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:22:05 No.7281073 Report Delete

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>>7281049
>it just cemented my attachment to things like family and durable items with personal meaning.

really?
The only thing I feel attachment for now is my laptop and internet because they're great distractions, I just hope I can keep being distracted until the day I die. Family and people are overrated,fickle and require too much effort to deal with, personally.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:22:29 No.7281076 Report Delete

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>>7280809
This is fucking symptomatic. You think the status quo is all good as long as it benefits you. If 90% of humanity has to slave away in complete alienation then that's fine if you can sit on a nice tenure and write about how bad it all is. Then that fulfills your phantasm about being a real human character.

And of course if it turns out you are a regular joe like everyone else? Then you'll revolt, but not against the conditions that divides humanity into audience and players, you'll revolt against the dramatic incompleteness of YOUR life by doing some grand spectacle that puts you back in center.

Fucking strange times.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:27:56 No.7281093 Report Delete

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>>7281073
My family has been worth it so far. When j say durable good with personal meaning I'm talking about stuff like my hunting guns and surfboard, so probably not too different in function from your laptop except my rifle will still work fine on a decade.

>>7281076
Sounds like he's just being honest with himself and pragmatic. Not everybody wants what he wants and if they're going to be satisfied with their shit sandwich I'm not going to fight them about it when I can just go eat my ham on rye and sit upwind from the shit eaters.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:36:06 No.7281111 Report Delete

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>>7280833
Aren't those all machines now?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:38:10 No.7281117 Report Delete

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I want to become an anime villain and destroy the world tbh

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:38:49 No.7281119 Report Delete

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>>7281093
>Sounds like he's just being honest with himself and pragmatic.

He specifically said he didn't want to do "inconscionable labor", i.e. he's not trying to be a real egoist, whatever that is.

Rather he's selfishly trying to direct his life to be good television, in which he's the good guy and it's him against the world. This is the psychotic reality of the modern middle class.

(And I dunno why you switched from third- to first-person mid-sentence.)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:43:08 No.7281134 Report Delete

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I've never had any ambitions or plans what to do further than next week. Whenever people talk of these failed goals it's just strange to me. I guess I hope to afford a tiny apartment and food and being able to read and maybe a basic pc to play vidya occassionally. Expecting more would lead to disappointment.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:20:06 No.7281285 Report Delete

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>>7281119
you're imagining a lot of ideology that wasn't even implied in the way I worded my post. I'm doing the alienated slave thing already and have been for years—it's not like I'd go from silver spoon to cushy tenure job w/ no intervening misery, like you stated earlier—I've done my time.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:52:10 No.7281396 Report Delete

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>>7281005
Source?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:58:48 No.7281433 Report Delete

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Just to keep being a genius and visionary on my own terms, and make enough money to live well, I don't much care if niggas never recognise

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:00:21 No.7281441 Report Delete

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>>7280745
Dude, as long as you get out of the United States of economic inequality and Dystopia you'll be fine

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:01:34 No.7281444 Report Delete

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>>7280745
As of now:
Quit teaching college to focus on my writing full-time (sell art and etsy shit to make enough money to pay the mortgage)
Successful enough with my books that it can be my soul source of income and art can be more of a pleasure thing.
~High-reaching dream: Become a world-wide success, my books actually motivate people, open my own publishing company, get hired as a writer in residence at a decent university. Do well enough with my books to actually take 2-3 week trips around the world to fuel my writing content.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:05:54 No.7281469 Report Delete

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So if you think you've done enough why not go all the way and just wish for economic independency so that you can do what you want.

No you called it a "career as a writer", in other words you want a struggle but you want an audience. The modern horror isn't suffering, it's bad dramaturgy.

I sympathise but I do think it's symptomatic and very zeitgeisty how the goal of life is to orchestrate into being a good story. I mean even in your last post the conclusion is that you've "done your time", the idea of a goal outside of yourself is unthinkable.

"it's not like I'd go from silver spoon to cushy tenure job w/ no intervening misery"

So the moral duty is to suffer just enough to warrant self-indulgance. Not to act for good or change? You see how this can be read as a move for a more compelling narrative, rather than an act of selfishness or morality.

This is why we won't have social change, everyone's waiting for their turn at the stage. It's the most effective system of control there has ever been.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:07:08 No.7281475 Report Delete

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My only expectation in life is death.

My only hope is to buy or build a house in a small rural town.

I also want to spread the message of Baron Evola.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:08:32 No.7281478 Report Delete

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All I want to do is worship the triune God. But God is omnipresent and eternal. So I am pretty much sorted and guaranteed happiness for all eternity.

Thanks for creating me, God.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:55:27 No.7281896 Report Delete

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>>7280853
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1TmeBd9338

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:27:42 No.7281989 Report Delete

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>>7281478
I'm jealous of your contentment in stupidity.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:35:40 No.7282011 Report Delete

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>>7280745

I have none. After reading the Book of Disquiet, I am actually fairly certain I may be schizoid.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:45:07 No.7282045 Report Delete

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>>7280745
Check out Modern Regime Volume II by Hippolyte Taine.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:50:12 No.7282063 Report Delete

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>>7280759
you are right, let's go with communism where you have to work hard everyday and not go anywhere with your life, in a poor country with an oppressive government.

Or let's do monarchy where you are either born a peasant or lucky enough to be born into royalty only to be metaphorically if not literally back-stabbed for a shitty piece of land.

There is no perfect political system, and capitalism is the best there is

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:52:08 No.7282072 Report Delete

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I don't have expectations, that way I can't disappoint myself

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:55:28 No.7282082 Report Delete

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end up on welfare, suicide, or dependent on siblings

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