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Science Fiction and Fantasy General

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:23:51 No.7284638 View Reply Report Delete

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Dyson sphere Edition

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>Who is your favorite Author that utilizes Dyson spheres in Science Fiction/Fantasy?
>What are your favorite books that deal with with Dyson spheres?
>How would man utilize all that energy? How would covering the sun affect the other planets?
>As a supposed Dyson sphere was discovered a few weeks ago, do you think there will be a flood of books to hit the market centered around the Spheres to ride on the popularity?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:27:04 No.7284649 Report Delete

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That image looks more like a Matroishka brain under construction to me.
They'd use the energy to power all the processing going on inside the structure itself, which would in turn be their own minds and virtualised environments.

If you're talking about the large objects that were in the news last week after being discovered literally years ago, they're in no way a Dyson sphere, you're retarded.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:28:18 No.7284654 Report Delete

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>>7284638
what the fuck is a dyson sphere OP

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:28:37 No.7284656 Report Delete

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Why would you waste your time building a dyson sphere instead of making your own mini fusion reactors?
Are there any books that portray a dyson sphere as a deprecated, abandoned project?
Or just space ruins in general if that's too specific.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:29:14 No.7284658 Report Delete

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>>7284633
>So you will be reading books to past time until you die?
Yes. I can see TWOW in 2016 tho tbh.

>Just like the Long Price Quartet was, The Dagger and Coin is historical fiction with "SMALL" hints of magic and the fantastical.

I don't mind that, although I couldn't get into TLPQ either, I think because it was so different from the regular medieval setting of ASOIAF.

>It was shit for me, but if you like history with a few glimpses of the magical(which is what GURM does) you can go for it.

I'll give it a try tbh fam. Thanks.

What I like about ASOIAF is the epic scope, which encompasses a variety of genres, moods and settings. So it's like 5 books in one.

Like someone on here once told me "if you like the gritty battles of ASOIAF try Black Company," but the truth is I like the variety.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:30:05 No.7284662 Report Delete

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>>7284656
Homeworld 2 wallpapers?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:35:28 No.7284682 Report Delete

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>>7284658
If you liked the gay, rape and incest of ASOIAF you'll enjoy Prince of Nothing.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:41:20 No.7284707 Report Delete

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>>7284682
You are the only one forcing the meme friend.

When will you give up?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:19:50 No.7284813 Report Delete

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>>7284707
It doesn't even make grammatical sense.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:24:46 No.7284829 Report Delete

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>>7284649
What do you mean "in no way"?
The evidence shows that it's a big cluster of lightweight objects that don't radiate infrared light. It's either a lot of comets in a really weird configuration or something artificial, it's still up in the air.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:28:13 No.7284847 Report Delete

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>>7284829
If it was a completed Dyson sphere, we wouldn't be able to see them as they wouldn't radiate light. Not all megastructures are Dyson Spheres and there's no reason to assume they are.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:30:31 No.7284853 Report Delete

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>>7284847
It's could be a Dyson swarm which is technologically feasible even for us in the near future.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:36:06 No.7284867 Report Delete

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>>7284853
Yeah, and it could be Azathoth's corpse or a herd of mega-butterflies, so what? Maybe they're made out of milkshake, it's possible. Do you think there'll be a flood of books to hit the market centred around mega-butterfly milkshake to ride the popularity?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:42:13 No.7284888 Report Delete

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>>7284867
You are implying that a Dyson structure is pure fantasy made by sci-fi stoners.
It's actually a serious concept with logical reasoning behind it.
It's no more preposterous than a generation ship or terraforming for example, which are "fiction" but well within the real of possibility.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:45:12 No.7284896 Report Delete

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>>7284888
I think he's saying that there's no reason to get excited about it being a Dyson superstructure (sphere or swarm or whatever) until we have more reason to think it is, not that the concept is inherently dumb.

I don't agree btw. I don't really give a fuck about pop authors or sensationalist journalists or Reddit getting excited about how it's Space Jesus, but I do get excited thinking about how we might have find the first alien thing and it's a massive fucking superstructure. It's worth looking into and it's perfect fodder for nerds to banter about. But obviously I'm not clenching my asshole shut 24/7 waiting for more news about it, since it's *probably* nothing.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:48:11 No.7284904 Report Delete

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>>7284888
No, I'm implying that you're leaping to conclusions. Lots of serious concepts for future technologies with logical reasons behind them turn out to be completely pointless by the time we've reached the level of sophistication needed to actually create them. It's not a supposed Dyson sphere, it's what appears to be some large objects in space that we haven't seen before. There's even less reason to suspect they're Dyson Spheres than there was in the '60s to believe the signals we were receiving were from aliens and not, as they turned out to be, pulsars.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:53:39 No.7284924 Report Delete

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>>7284904
I never implied that they MUST be alien structures, I'm just peeved by how you dismissed the possibility even though not even the scientists studying it dismissed it, it's more likely to be something natural but we just don't know yet and neither do you.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:55:45 No.7284925 Report Delete

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>>7284924
I haven't dismissed it. If you read my posts, the words "it's possible" are in there.
You'll note that the scientists studying it haven't dismissed the Azathoth or mega-butterflies theories either, they would be natural after all. My point is that you're leaping to conclusions.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:59:10 No.7284940 Report Delete

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>>7284925
"Possibility" is not "conclusion".
Also you did dismiss it in the first post I quoted.
>in no way

And bringing the Azathoth theory won't reinforce your argument because it's pure fantasy unlike the other possibilities.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:38:14 No.7285222 Report Delete

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What's the best metaparody in fantasy?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 16:24:30 No.7285842 Report Delete

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>>7284638
>Who is your favorite Author that utilizes Dyson spheres in Science Fiction/Fantasy?
Neal Asher explored it in one of his agent Cormac books, but haven't heard of it since the person in charge of building it went on a killing spree.

>As a supposed Dyson sphere was discovered a few weeks ago, do you think there will be a flood of books to hit the market centered around the Spheres to ride on the popularity?
I can already visualize fantasy writers using some ether derived device to harvest magical properties directly from the sun.

Hell, Jim Butcher might use it in his next Cinder Spires book.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 16:37:45 No.7285891 Report Delete

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Who /waiting for Southern Scadrial to start World War I/ here?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 17:55:57 No.7286263 Report Delete

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bought some books today.

How'd I do, lads?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:07:30 No.7286317 Report Delete

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>>7286263
ugliest set of covers i've ever seen in my life

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:09:12 No.7286319 Report Delete

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>>7286263
Pretty good, so long as you actually read them. That's a good silver-age SF collection.

>>7286317
You didn't see your mum's debut in Maxim then? Seriously, shut up about covers, they're irrelevant.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:17:00 No.7286360 Report Delete

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>>7286317
You may be sad to know these books also don't come with pictures, lad

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:20:26 No.7286373 Report Delete

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Vurt is my favourite sci-fi book

What's yours?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:27:39 No.7286415 Report Delete

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>>7286319
listen not only are the covers crap they're slightly oversized the way they make them now.
they don't fit into your hand right and the words are oversized and overspaced

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:31:51 No.7286430 Report Delete

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>>7286263
Hah, dick!

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:58:14 No.7286574 Report Delete

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>>7284654
Essentially, it's a solar array that entirely encapsulates a star.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:45:27 No.7286780 Report Delete

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>>7286263
What collection is that? I've never seen it before. Ugly as shit, but still interesting. Door Into Summer, City and the Stars, Under Pressure, The End of Eternity, and The Dream Master are all strange choices for the authors imo.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:55:06 No.7286834 Report Delete

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>>7286263
That's a pretty good selection. Now you have to actually read them.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:31:58 No.7287018 Report Delete

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>>7286263
A lot of good books with nothing but god awful covers.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:45:32 No.7287075 Report Delete

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i know, i know, the dust jackets are shit. I can always take them off.

>>7286780
SF book club 50th anniversary edition. They're the SFBC's top 8 selections from each decade. Almost half of them were already on my reading list.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:03:51 No.7287183 Report Delete

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>>7286263
I don't love the covers but it's cool that they're all in the same collection, there's a lot there I'd love to read, plus the Dick and Le Guin are classics

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:04:01 No.7287184 Report Delete

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>>7287075
They're all hardback? How much did all of those cost? I thought they were cheap paperbacks.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:57:05 No.7287458 Report Delete

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>>7287184
would you believe fewer than 50 dollars?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:27:55 No.7287633 Report Delete

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Can you guys rec some fantasy that isn't autistic and escapist?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:28:29 No.7287638 Report Delete

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>>7287633
fantasy that isn't autistic and escapist is called fiction

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:55:55 No.7288086 Report Delete

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I'm reading the second book in the Chronicles of Master Li and Number Ten Ox and I can safely say this is a really, really good series.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:18:11 No.7288785 Report Delete

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>>7284680
>I thought Shallan's secret was that her father diddled her. Had a hard on waiting for the reveal.
>IT NEVER CAME

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:44:37 No.7288952 Report Delete

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As the only person in thread to have apparently read the paper about KIC-8462852, I feel I should point out that while the scientists (and there are a mess of them) don't mention any kind of artificial structure specifically, they also put forward every other possibility you can think of, and then dismiss them as not quite fitting the bill.

Either way, it's neat.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:28:56 No.7289168 Report Delete

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>>7286263
When I saw the covers I expected a bunch of Rothfuss tier fantasy.
As it turns out a lot of this is pretty good, nice haul

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:39:22 No.7289189 Report Delete

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>>7287458
Less

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:26:35 No.7289633 Report Delete

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I've ordered:
1) Perdido Street Station
2) The City and the City
3) Embassytown

How am I doing?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:35:36 No.7289655 Report Delete

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So this is getting an English translastion next year....

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:36:32 No.7289659 Report Delete

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>>7289655
That's actually pretty cool, I've been wanting to dip into that - the series is too long for my taste

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:39:53 No.7289838 Report Delete

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>>7289633
Depends. If you like Mieville you're doing pretty well.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:49:09 No.7289869 Report Delete

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>>7289659

There's a new chinese cartoon adaptation coming in 2017

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:12:04 No.7289975 Report Delete

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I'm going to share some relevant music.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpE0pZsM1Go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPAR0P-8vGM

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:02:06 No.7290606 Report Delete

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DId not know Gavrial Kay has a new novel out next year.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:39:25 No.7290736 Report Delete

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Where should I start with Elric? What are some Elric collections worth getting?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:29:48 No.7291211 Report Delete

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>>7286319
>>7286360
>buying physical books
>not caring about covers

why even bother?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:33:30 No.7291235 Report Delete

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>>7284638
Tbh I think Star Wars got the cool aspect of dyson spheres right and cut out all the nerd shit. Giant space ball --> we have the power of space is the essential aesthetic core of the concept, Kardashev-whatever is fluff.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:34:59 No.7291239 Report Delete

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Who is the best modern prose stylist in fantasy fiction?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:45:24 No.7291290 Report Delete

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>>7286263
Is the End of Eternity worth reading? I read All You Zombies recently and was pretty blue-balled about the lack of time agents having fun time travel adventures, killing Hitler and stuff.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:00:48 No.7291346 Report Delete

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>>7289655
ugh

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:32:36 No.7291727 Report Delete

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>just finished listening to the Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy

I didn't think that i would feel so confused with the ending after... Well, after the whole mood and comedic tone(save for the 4th book) of the whole series.

What the hell happened? All i could understand was that, apparently, the Vogons end up destroying Earth again, with Trillian and AU-Trillian in the same room, and then somehow that fixes the whole problem of the time and dimentional distortions that happened in the solar system.

I feel like i missed a page or two, or at least a paragraph, because it feels like i'm missing information.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:36:12 No.7291977 Report Delete

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What fantasy books(prefer magic, but sci fi is ok too) have a villain protagonist, who isn't a thug/mercenary/barbarian type, but a genuine overlord wannabe?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:38:36 No.7291985 Report Delete

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>>7291239
George R.R Martin
Joe abercrombie
Amazing writing.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:53:32 No.7292035 Report Delete

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>>7289838
>If you like Mieville
No, I like rad quality stuff.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:54:23 No.7292040 Report Delete

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I sure am happy I saw someone post about this book, it's nice to find a entertaining book to read.

Also does anyone dislike knowing if the author is religious or not when reading books that deal with religion?

Whenever I read a Brandon Sanderson book I just remember he's a mormon and it just makes me second guess everything he writes about religion.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:09:50 No.7292096 Report Delete

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So, given that i started listening to audiobooks recently, i was wondering, did any of you listened to Book of the New Sun? Since it's so highly regarded in here, i was thinking that if i didn't read it i would miss on the experience or something like that.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:36:07 No.7292219 Report Delete

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>>7284638
>>Who is your favorite Author that utilizes Dyson spheres in Science Fiction/Fantasy?
John C. Wright
>>What are your favorite books that deal with with Dyson spheres?
Probably going to be the upcoming Vindication of Man by John C. Wright.
>>How would man utilize all that energy? How would covering the sun affect the other planets?
Building fantastically large AIs.
Other planets? You mean those piles of construction material?
>The Power christened Vonrothbarth of 61 Cygni was a hyperjovian and a fire giant, a Brown Dwarf who failed to ignite, swinging rapidly in a submercurial orbit around his primary. Over millennia, he had extended the topless towers of exotic-particle material upward and outward from his fiery globe, a trailing braided tail, threads of material two hundred twenty million miles long, held aloft from the star by 61 Cygni’s immense solar wind pressure. The twin telluric worlds of the system were unable to comprehend Vonrothbarth’s arts, or analyze the building material, dubbed orichalchum. The material was the alloy of artificial elements not found on any periodic table, isotopes possible only through engineering on the subatomic scale. Odile looked on with awe and Odette with dread, and each sought to ship her surface populations elsewhere, before the distant age arrived when project was triumphant.

>The orichalchum megascale structure housed both inhabited and uninhabited continents. These continents coated the inner surface of hollow cylinders indefinite in length, absorbing and digesting particles from the sun, and ever growing. The flexible cylinders rotated at various rates to imitate gravity. The array was as if composed of countless beanstalks set end to end, or, like a loosely woven arc of odd, superplanetary noodles.

>As ages passed, the threads expanded ever farther along the orbit of Vonrothbarth as he circled the star, eventually forming a work encircling the solar equator. And still, as centuries passed into millennia, it grew ever onward. When it reached three full circuits of 61 Cyngi, a three-banded strandworld, it awoke, and shrieked, and named itself Zauberring.

...

>Rumors filtered down to the posthumans that Cold Potentates had overheard the radio messages, spanning the years and lightyears between the Powers and their new and incomprehensible masters, these Principalities. Cool and remorseless Catallactic of Tau Ceti, serene and detached Consecrate of Altair, patient and sly Toliman of Alpha Centauri, and young Zauberring of 61 Cygni, whose zeals and ideals were based on mathematical models no Power and no Potentate could comprehend.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:43:35 No.7292255 Report Delete

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>>7286263
If you want gay:
>Forever War
>Left Hand
>City (gay as in gay for Lopers )
Rape:
>Stars my Destination
>Door into Summer (Debatable, statutory)
>Canticle for Leibowitz (I might be remembering this incorrectly)
>Smoke Rose Up
Incest:
>Mote in God's Eye (alien only)
David Bowie:
>Under Pressure
Now this is not a complete list, but it should get you started.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:04:45 No.7292355 Report Delete

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>>7292255
>Door into Summer
>not pure and consensual

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:05:04 No.7292357 Report Delete

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>>7290736
Pls respond

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:34:27 No.7292681 Report Delete

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>>7292040
>Whenever I read a Brandon Sanderson book I just remember he's a mormon and it just makes me second guess everything he writes about religion.
Like how? Knowing Wolfe is Catholic makes New Sun ten times better.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 23:35:29 No.7292689 Report Delete

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>>7292355
It can be pure and consensual and still be statutory.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:28:35 No.7292894 Report Delete

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Superheroes are kinda fantasy right? I think this is the right thread to ask.

Recently I've read a really cool series called Ex-Heroes, about superheroes in a zombie apocalipse. That made me curious, are there more books about superheroes? Any you guys would reccomend?

Please don't tell me to go to /co/, they barely read comic books, I don't think they can read actual books.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:32:18 No.7292905 Report Delete

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>>7292894
>they barely read comic books
Wow you're dumb.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:25:31 No.7293087 Report Delete

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>>7292096
I listened to the old recording made for the blind in the 90's /80's and the recently re-recorded one made cor audiobooks listeners.

If i got all the story you can too.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 02:25:04 No.7293251 Report Delete

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>>7284656
Well we have the technology for a dyson sphere currently so there's that. Not the means, but at least the technology.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 03:32:42 No.7293418 Report Delete

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>>7292894
The Reckoners by Sanderson has a shit protagonist but some good side characters.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 03:56:19 No.7293471 Report Delete

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>>7293418
I was severely disappointed that TWO MAIN CHARACTERS had superpowers. I mean, I get that it's a magic system and you can be super and not evil under certain circumstances, but he marketed those books as non-supers beating supers.

And the MC is just a self-insert, because it's YA.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:01:46 No.7293479 Report Delete

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>>7292040
He lurked atheist forums so he could write Jasnah properly. I think it's safe to say he researches beforehand.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:13:30 No.7293499 Report Delete

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I got a question for Michael Fabre's under the skin

Why is the alien's original appearance like dogs? Is it an irony that men's best friends are eating men

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:37:38 No.7293523 Report Delete

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Seveneves for all its flaws was a fun ride.
>mfw the transhumanist gets physically uploaded into cannibals

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:53:44 No.7293548 Report Delete

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>>7292681
But Catholicism isn't retarded.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:55:05 No.7293553 Report Delete

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>>7292096
>>7293087
Yeah I did the same thing. Just as long as you focus on it you'll be fine.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:56:09 No.7293556 Report Delete

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>>7291239
Gene Wolfe is still alive and writing.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:01:48 No.7293566 Report Delete

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>>7292219
Finally, another JCW fan.

Count to a Trillion might be a little uneven, but there's so much going on. Wright's sort of a combination of Wolfe and Van Vogt. A shame so many won't give him a chance because of muh progressive ideals. So far the books have basically mapped the evolution of posthuman intelligence as a progression from a godless present/near future, to a pagan age of legends, to the host of angels. I can't wait to see how he deals with wrapping everything up...hopefully his spat with Tor didn't screw things up on either end. Yes, lots of Dyson sphere are involved.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:07:02 No.7293573 Report Delete

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>>7293548
But Mormonism isn't retarded either, at least no more than Catholicism. It just holds Hermetic beliefs in a time when Christianity is overwhelmingly Gnostic.

>>7293566
I love his idea that enhanced intelligence enhances the magnitude of our mistakes. I'm really looking forward to them sending neural signals through galactic filaments and still being a Texas gunslinger who stole the Princess from a dreadful Spaniard, and still getting their duel interrupted.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:24:47 No.7293597 Report Delete

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>>7293471
Well, I think it was a pretty predictable plot twist. I also think it'd be pretty boring if it turned out the MCs just had unlimited luck at beating super powered villains out of a sheer plot armour book after book.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:34:36 No.7293617 Report Delete

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>>7293597
Well it's Sanderson, of course there's a twist. But it could have been a different twist.

See, in heists, as he explains on his podcast, you either explain what they're going to do and it goes wrong, or you go in blind and they pull it off. Variations on that theme could keep a no-supers Reckoners series going as long as he wants. No major revelations necessary.

Inaho explained his plans, and then they worked. That was a big part of that show's problem. He was never wrong, not even when his opponent could predict the future.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:43:43 No.7293627 Report Delete

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>>7293617
The Reckoners is probably just the Aldnoah of Sanderson's series. But I agree it was better when there were no super powers, but on the other hand the stakes are much higher in the third book if they're going against Prof rather than 'just another' epic. I guess instead of epics they could just go for the source Calamity but I think it'd be underwhelming especially as Sanderson is going for the blockbuster feel.

Wonder how they're going to get around Meg now she's practically invincible, but I guess I didn't see the TLR twist coming either.

>Inaho explained his plans, and then they worked. That was a big part of that show's problem.
I always thought that Aldnoah was going to pull a Sanderson-esque Atium twist but it never ended up happening and they never really discussed it again. Big disappointment.

The power levels are getting a bit too high in the Reckoners though, I agree, but it didn't go straight into OP like Mistborn did. (I noticed that he significantly toned down the Mistborn super powers with the Wax/Wayne stuff)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:49:18 No.7293634 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7293639

>>7293627
Oh, I never read the second Reckoners. Couldn't even make it through... the chalk magic one. I was fine with Alcatraz and I'm flagrantly homosexual towards Stormlight, so I don't know if I'm the problem there or not. There's a pretty big quality drop when you read the stuff he writes to take a vacation from writing his other stuff.

I think the Mistborn power levels were handled pretty well aside from that slog of a Sazed fight, really. One of the big payoffs in fantasy for me was when Vin collapsed that steel palace and threw herself into the stratosphere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:51:28 No.7293639 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7293693

>>7293634
Mistborn power levels were handled quite well. But it must be pretty difficult to have to factor that into all of your plot. The Wax/Wayne stuff has more twin borns/limited powers than its predecessors, it's quite interesting to see the difference in the way he tackles those.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 06:40:43 No.7293693 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7293724

>>7293639
A lot of it reflects his growth as an author. Nowadays he likes to take a little power and stretch it a long way. He's not going for as much gee-whiz, as we can see in Wild West Mistborn, and I can see where it helps him focus on more human characters but I can't say I love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:02:48 No.7293724 Report Delete

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>>7293693
>but I can't say I love it.
that's true

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:03:54 No.7293727 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7293732 >>7293735

>>7293479
>He lurked atheist forums so he could write Jasnah properly
>he couldnt even be assed to read Atheist philosophers

Bravo Hackerson

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:08:12 No.7293732 Report Delete

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>>7293727
But if he based a character on atheist philosophers none of his atheist readers would recognize it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:09:04 No.7293735 Report Delete

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>>7293727
>atheist philosophers
Are you implying that before I decided to become an atheist I went up and read a shitload of arguments?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:37:45 No.7293781 Report Delete

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>>7292894
Steel Heart by Brandon Sanderson

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:25:59 No.7293996 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7294197 >>7294265 >>7294292

>>7291977
hours later, no reply

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:50:45 No.7294197 Report Delete

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>>7293996
No one owes you a reply.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:16:49 No.7294265 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7294319

>>7293996
What you want anti hero?

Losts of books with evil villians usually resolves itself with th protagonist sacrificing himself for the greater good. Books with a evil guy doing wvil things and living happily everafter doesn't sell well.

Fucking public and their "muh morals".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:25:59 No.7294292 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7298680

>>7293996
Literally the Book of the Fucking Sun

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:35:29 No.7294319 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7294336 >>7294646

>>7294265
>i haven't had the chance to entertain myself with an undone trope
>better complain about society's morals

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:45:10 No.7294336 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7294354

>>7292894
>Ex-Heroes
The first 3 books are pretty good, the 4th is pure shit. Have you read the 5th? is it any good?

Other superhero stuff i read:
>Soon I Will Be Invincible
>It's Superman!
>Grimnoir Chronicles
It's a magic based power system, but it definitely reads as a superhero series.

>>7294319
Not that anon, but do you seriously think this is an "undone trope"? or are you just baiting?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:53:40 No.7294354 Report Delete

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>>7294336
Neither, actually. I know that it's been done heavily due to how wide is the spectrum when it comes to books, but i was mostly referring to known authors and shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:39:51 No.7294646 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7299073

>>7294319
I said "muh morals" because Authors try to resolve the book with good conquering evil(or the evil guy not being so evil) because of the public.

What book did you read that the person you detested the most, survives in the end and continues to kill and pillage and doesn't answer for his crimes?

Please let me know so I can read it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:14:19 No.7294726 Report Delete

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>>7284638
The structures probably aren't dyson spheres, they're probably huge chunks of molten metal caught in orbit around the star.

I personally think the human race will run out of the resources required to build something like that long before we get anywhere near colonizing other planets.
Which is a shame because exploring the galaxy would be bad ass.

>>7289655
Why would you want a translation?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:21:31 No.7295410 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7295544 >>7297682 >>7298681

Have anyone of you read "Prince of Thorns"? and if so would you recommend it for someone who liked The first law series alot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:58:38 No.7295544 Report Delete

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>>7295410
Yea I would, but don't touch the sequels.

Just read the first Law Trilogy and the Broken Empire Trilogy.

Don't touch anymore of their books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:45:01 No.7296217 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7284638
Try Ring World for Dyson Sphere books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:03:43 No.7296490 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7293087
>and the recently re-recorded one made for audiobooks listeners.

Do you know where can i find it? KAT doesn't have it and the thread on /t/ has only the cassette recordings, which i can't hear when going on the bus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:26:33 No.7296571 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7284638
Does Ringworld count? Of course, a ring is used instead of a sphere, but in the same way for the same purpose. Plus, the novel is amazing, if you haven't read it yet, do so soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:49:17 No.7296632 Report Delete

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>>7292040
Was Dick religious? I thought he was just nuts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:56:25 No.7297682 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297726

>>7295410
I liked the rape, gay and incest in Prince of Thorns series.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:03:08 No.7297693 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297730

Why is it there's hardly any literary science fiction?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:28:55 No.7297726 Report Delete

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>>7297682
Didn't you say you liked the gay rape incest of Prince of Thorns 2 threads ago?

Prince of thorns starts with rape, brother Sim was a good bugger boy, and the incest? Jorge fucking his sister/aunt-in-law counts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:30:50 No.7297730 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297734

>>7297693
Because this isn't a dfw or gravity's rainbow thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:40:30 No.7297734 Report Delete

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>>7297730
I used to love science fiction but I can't get over the lack of prose. Most writers have such a simplistic style of writing I can't handle it. I was hoping that there would be some serious suggestions otherwise I'm just going to order the Barsoom series at the library and see what happens.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:18:56 No.7297787 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297830 >>7297834 >>7298084

So, it's been a long time since I've read this, and I still think about it all the time. I don't quite understand it, mainly the ending, but it still blows me away. It also seems right up /lit/'s alley.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:49:05 No.7297830 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7297787
It's an amazing work. One with literary merit beyond the narrow trappings of science fiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:54:21 No.7297834 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7297787
>that cover
No thanks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:52:28 No.7298084 Report Delete

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>>7297787
Looks like a scene from the movie avatar (the cover that is)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:50:34 No.7298571 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7298598

Anyone here read the "Night Watch" series by Sergei Lukyanenko? I've been reading the first four books over the last few days and I liked them, kind of a different, Russian take at urban fantasy for a change.

... just don't try to watch the movies. Cringeworthy at best.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:54:22 No.7298585 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7298635 >>7301489

i want a fantasy in space that isn't called 'science' 'fiction'

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:56:50 No.7298598 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7298666 >>7298729

>>7298571

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:05:59 No.7298635 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7298585
So dreams and prophecy guide characters, spells and curses have real consequences, like attracts like and evil contaminates, but they're also concerned about injection orbits, delta-v, and atmosphere scrubbing?

Not that most SF cares about that last bit anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:16:02 No.7298666 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7298598
Lolita sure looks lonely amongst all that trash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:21:24 No.7298680 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7294292
you mean book of the new sun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:22:40 No.7298681 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7295410
I have read and I'm currently reading the third book of the trilogy. Very fun.

Unfortunately, I wouldn't know what to recommend, I'm looking for similar books myself too. Abercrombie probably works for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:38:15 No.7298729 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7298598
I liked the rape, gay and incest in all the books in your picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:58:11 No.7298799 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7298835 >>7298878 >>7299199 >>7300117 >>7301556

Guys, you read a lot of scifi, how do they cure diarrhea in the future? I get it every day and it's exhausting. I have to take my shirt off when I defecate it's so bad. I also can't wear belts.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:07:02 No.7298835 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7298879

>>7298799
Drink less milk(milk, cream, ice cream, cheese) if you are dairy intensive.

To help the shittings, get Guava leaves or Green Tea leaves. Brew every dark.
That will clog you up nicely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:21:00 No.7298878 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7298799
They must have cured diarrhea in the future since all restaurants are Taco Bell.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:21:03 No.7298879 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7299084

>>7298835
Thanks, man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:13:06 No.7299073 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7294646
Not a book, but Nightcrawler is a movie like this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:14:35 No.7299084 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7299192

>>7298879
Eat a lot of high fibre foods too, or get some psyllium husk and drink it with water. You'll be shitting comfy shits

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:15:44 No.7299088 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>sci-fi general talking about diarrhea
Sounds about right :^}

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:43:45 No.7299192 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7299084
I can't wait. The future is now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:46:58 No.7299199 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7299207

>>7298799
>Guys, you read a lot of scifi, how do they cure diarrhea in the future?
The basic solution is blowing up the USA -- no more American "food" and no more stomach problems and obesity and diabetes. Problem solved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:51:16 No.7299207 Report Delete

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>>7299199
You would still have Africa, where in many countries the leading cause of death is diarrhea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:48:19 No.7300117 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7298799
I liked the rape, gay and incest in your diarrhea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:43:29 No.7300506 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7302561

>>7285222
Fuckin' Xanth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:00:13 No.7301381 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Is Dhalgren worth reading?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:10:58 No.7301489 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7301494

>>7298585
Maybe give the Pern novels a try? It's not exactly in space, but it is a series of fantasy novels set on another planet and sort of still is SF. I'd start with Dragonflight, Dragonquest and The White Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:12:56 No.7301494 Report Delete

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>>7301489
It's recommended to read Dragonsong, Dragonsinger and Dragondrums in between Dragonquest and The White Dragon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:46:53 No.7301533 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7301851

>>7284638
Loved the Riftwar Books tbh.

They start off as really generic but start getting interesting, then they go back to generic.

Loved The Empire Trilogy especially. Only read up to Shards of a Broken Crown because I heard the books after are shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:07:38 No.7301556 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7298799
I'd go to the doctor mate just to check.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:06:14 No.7301851 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7301533
Erik Von D best character, Calis a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:51:58 No.7302561 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7303831 >>7303854

>>7300506
>Xanth
Is Piers Anthony good?
Been meaning to read him for years but the blurbs are so meh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:46:18 No.7303550 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7303576 >>7303807

Why is a board relevant thread dropping to page 8, while non literature threads(what film, what music, what painting, etc), are upon page one?

southpawhustler

southpawhustler Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:52:30 No.7303568 Report Delete

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>>7284654
easily said it is when a civilization can utilize the power of the sun creating an almost infinite amount of power

The cats

The cats Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:54:33 No.7303576 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7303807 >>7303922 >>7303933

>>7303550
Because sci-fi is shit and you're from another board

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 19:07:03 No.7303807 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7303550
Different threads have activity at different times of the day.

>>7303576
And you're a faggot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 19:14:44 No.7303831 Report Delete

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>>7302561
I read Tarot which was a nice enough read, I still remember some parts of it five years later so that's something at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 19:23:55 No.7303854 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7302561
1T D3P3NDS

DO YOU L1K3 PUNS 4ND SC4NT1LY CL4D WOM3N?

1TS B33N 4 WH1L3 S1NC3 1 R34D 4NY OF TH3 X4NTH BOOKS BUT 1 H4V3 FOND M3MOR13S OF TH3M

TH3Y W3R3 3NJOY4BL3 BUT 1 W4S 4LSO L1K3 14

CONC3PTU4LLY X4NTH 1S 4 N34T 1F V3RY S1LLY PL4C3

1TS 4LL V3RY L1GHT H34RT3D 4ND NOT R34LLY WH4T YOUD C4LL D33P 4S F4R 4S 1 C4N R3C4LL

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 19:40:44 No.7303922 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7303933

>>7303576
>been here for years
>vaporware, /mu/, /tv/, /pol/ and /v/ shit spammed almost daily
>relevant threads stays close to page 5 for days
>recently more asinine shit spammed
>relevant threads drop to page 8 within 5 hours

>new
I guess some /an/ namefag would know whom is from which board

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 19:42:53 No.7303933 Report Delete

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>>7303576
>>7303922
I've been here for years, my favorite authors are Pynchon and Nabokov, and I think the SF/F threads are reliably some of the best on /lit/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 19:50:24 No.7303953 Report Delete

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I need some spooky books about space
Like event horizon

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