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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:08:35 No.7284959 View Reply Report Delete

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Is the length of a book important?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:09:31 No.7284962 Report Delete

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Yeah if a book looks too long I'm not going to read it

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:09:38 No.7284963 Report Delete

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It's more about the ratio of length to width than just the length

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:11:54 No.7284969 Report Delete

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Yes, I avoid reading anything above 300 pages as it will ALWAYS have unnecessary filler (unless it's a compilation of shorts or something).

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:13:34 No.7284974 Report Delete

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if it's 0 pages then it's not even a book

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:18:10 No.7284992 Report Delete

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Refuse to read Underworld or The Recognitions because they're way too long.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:22:02 No.7285001 Report Delete

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I tend to take long books much more seriously. literary value is proportional to length after ~300pgs.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:25:09 No.7285013 Report Delete

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>>7284969
>(unless it's a compilation of shorts or something).
collected short stories/poems are just as bad, they're fillled with minor, bad stories

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:25:28 No.7285015 Report Delete

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>>7284959
yeah, it needs to be at least 300 pages for me to pretend to have read it and flaunt it proudly on my expensive oak wood, custom bookshelf

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:29:40 No.7285029 Report Delete

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This thread is a compilation of sharts.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:30:27 No.7285031 Report Delete

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Don't you just love the length of Phillip Dick?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:31:45 No.7285040 Report Delete

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>>7285031
nah, im a size king

he's a bit short for my taste

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:32:10 No.7285042 Report Delete

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>>7284959
the girth is more important

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:33:18 No.7285043 Report Delete

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>>7284959
It's not necessarily the length as much as how you use it.

I appreciate getting lost for days on end in a 1000-pager as much as the next guy, but there's something to appreciate in an author delivering something satisfying in a 100.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:40:40 No.7285065 Report Delete

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>>7284974
kekked

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:41:24 No.7285067 Report Delete

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>>7284959

Make it as short as you can, I think. I really don't like it when a book drags unnecessarily.

That said, I have read several long books I liked a lot, because they actually had a lot to say slash needed a lot of my time to put me in a place to understand and feel it.

Volume can be a deterrent to purchase though, I usually avoid engaging long books until I know quite a bit about them and am fairly certain I'll enjoy them.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:56:12 No.7285105 Report Delete

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>>7284959
No.
It's the content that counts.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:56:45 No.7285106 Report Delete

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Would the great novels of Dostoevsky be masterpieces, if they were condensed in 120 pages?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:02:54 No.7285122 Report Delete

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I've just read War and Peace and I must say, I agree with Shakespeare on brevity

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:16:58 No.7285159 Report Delete

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longer books offer more entertainment. i don't wanna pay for something i'll finish in half an hour

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:20:16 No.7285170 Report Delete

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>>7285159
Worse than /v/irgins complaining about "short" 4-6 hours games and "muh value per hour" tbh

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:22:09 No.7285178 Report Delete

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>>7285170
well what elsee am i supposed to do? i don't like video games and social interaction bores me, what can i spend all my time on? i'm not getting a job just for the sake of getting a job, i'm rich. well, wealthy.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:23:25 No.7285183 Report Delete

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>>7285106
most dostoe could be edited by at least 120 pages and nothing of value would be lost

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:33:50 No.7285212 Report Delete

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>>7285040
ayyy lmao I'm more of a Steven King king myself. I prefer my works to be old, scary and grotesque, and already having been enjoyed by numerous other people.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:35:33 No.7285215 Report Delete

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>>7285159
>paying for books

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:37:44 No.7285221 Report Delete

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>>7285178

If you're rich then why bother about price/page ratio? You should just worry about price/value.

Also, get a job you hippie. If not to break out of childish selfishness then because there's intrinsic value in having a job, even if it's mindless drudgery. You'd learn a lot from it

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:32:32 No.7285386 Report Delete

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>>7284959

Yes. Longer = more words = more for your money.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:34:33 No.7285394 Report Delete

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If you want the door to stay open..

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:44:04 No.7285424 Report Delete

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>>7285386
True American Man

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:55:06 No.7285464 Report Delete

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Important for what?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:57:14 No.7285466 Report Delete

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Anything was inplied.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:59:08 No.7285475 Report Delete

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The shorter,the better.
>>7285386
Time is the most scarce resource, not money.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 15:05:27 No.7285503 Report Delete

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>>7285043
This. Either can be bad if done wrong, either can be great if done well.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 15:11:58 No.7285535 Report Delete

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>>7284959
Not if the writing is stretched thin. Look at Stephen King. I'll take compressed short fiction over bloat.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:58:34 No.7286577 Report Delete

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Not really, although it reaches past 600 pages you're just being silly and should divide it into volumes. Its more about whether or not those 600 pages use words efficiently, using the least to say the most, rather than just drivel that uses a lot of words to say very little.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:36:58 No.7287374 Report Delete

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>>7284959
Not really, length in and of it self has no value, nor does it constitute quality, it comes down to each individual book, as well as personal preference. There is nothing to suggest that longer books are objectively better, although through effort justification they might end up feeling more satisfying than shorter ones.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:54:58 No.7287449 Report Delete

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some books I like are 80 pages, some are 900, some are short stories that are just a few, it depends anon
I don't know if length of a book is important, its never used to market the book (omg we have over 1500 pages buy us!!1) and some people like them since they get more bang for their buck, but I mean they can always come out with another version of the book with smaller font =/= less pages, or a ebook *shudder*

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:00:25 No.7287478 Report Delete

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>>7284959
Its not the length but the weight, knowledge is heavy

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:02:39 No.7287489 Report Delete

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Houllebecq said in an interview that

"H...But essays are what change the world.

I: Not novels?

H: Of course not. Though I suspect this book by Zemmour is really too long. I think Marx’s Capital is too long. It’s actually the Communist Manifesto that got read and changed the world. Rousseau changed the world, he sometimes knew how to go straight to the point. It’s simple, if you want to change the world, you have to say, Here’s how the world is and here’s what must be done. You can’t lose yourself in novelistic considerations. That’s ineffectual."

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!!6CacHYe/lH9 Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:29:28 No.7287951 Report Delete

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>>7284959
Is the length of the cock in your mouth important?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:55:13 No.7288080 Report Delete

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I like my works like I like my peen, Both like that of Tao Lin, short in size and lacking substance.

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/v/ !!DxTeZa4Y7Kc Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:14:22 No.7288199 Report Delete

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Books have no replay values, there is nothing to unlock, no multiplayer, and only one mode. The most advanced books are the non-linear choose your own adventure books but they stopped making those.

A new book can cost $20. With that you could buy a month's subscription to world of warcraft and have 30 days of distraction while still having money left over for mountain dew and cheetos.

If I'm investing $20 I want to get my moneys worth. More pages increases the value per dollar and it wouldn't hurt if you added some pictures too.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:16:19 No.7288204 Report Delete

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>>7288199
You will have to try a subtler approach m8, this is not /a/.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:16:48 No.7288891 Report Delete

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Yes. If it's less than 800 pages long it's pleb fodder and into the trash it goes.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:34:12 No.7288928 Report Delete

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>>7288204

Thought the very same thing as I was skimming that "bait". If you could even call it that, lol.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:41:06 No.7288946 Report Delete

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>>7285122
lel

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:45:13 No.7288954 Report Delete

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>>7288199
ahhahah holy kek

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:55:52 No.7289118 Report Delete

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>>7285122
wasnt the brevit is the sould of wit, thing just a joke in hamlet. Because Polonius sais that and hes the character that talkes the most.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:57:48 No.7289124 Report Delete

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>>7285475
unless youre a NEET.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:30:42 No.7289172 Report Delete

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>>7285001
What makes you think that?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:14:55 No.7289262 Report Delete

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>>7288204
>>7288928
there is such a thing as irony that isn't bait you know

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:18:39 No.7289269 Report Delete

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>>7289118
>expecting people on lit to know the context of Shakespeare quotes.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:30:32 No.7289297 Report Delete

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>>7284959
No. There is way more in the 80 pages of The Death of Ivan Ilych than in the +1000 pages of Infinite Jest

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:45:52 No.7289500 Report Delete

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>>7285183
Especialy Demons

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:07:00 No.7289569 Report Delete

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It depends entirely on the writer and the subject.

Chesterton's short novels are fantastic works, but would they be as good and well crafted if he had been forced to pad them out for 500+ pages? Would Religion and the Decline of Magic by Keith Thomas have had the impact it had if he had been confined to writing an essay for a Journal and had to condense his observations down to a 20,000 words? I suspect not. On the other side of things, Atlas Shrugged is a dire book, whether or not you have sympathies for Objectivism and one of the reasons for that is the length; Rand takes three times as much space as she really needs when saying anything.

A work has to be as long as it has to be and not any larger. Too short and you don't have the space to do what you want. Too long and you're essentially diluting the good in the work with useless filler and waffle.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:09:25 No.7289578 Report Delete

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>>7289118
Like much of Shakespeare's humour, it works on multiple layers. It's a valid observation, but it's also funny because the guy who's saying it speaks a lot.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:27:35 No.7290268 Report Delete

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>>7285212
underrated

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:33:58 No.7290282 Report Delete

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>>7289297
Also, there is way more BBC in your mum than in the 1000 pussies of the US porn industry

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