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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:55:37 No.7296822 View Reply Report Delete

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Are there any good writers/authors or philosophers who did poorly in school/university? I need figures that I can relate to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:56:47 No.7296828 Report Delete

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Oscar Wilde was a terrible student, so was Darwin.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:57:44 No.7296831 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300924 >>7300935

>>7296822
CS Lewis

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 23:58:49 No.7296834 Report Delete

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>>7296822
Which part of school?
I'll bet a lot of them didn't fair too well in math.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:01:28 No.7296844 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7296853 >>7296869

Relate to yourself. You're just looking for comfort in your ineptitude.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:02:40 No.7296845 Report Delete

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>>7296834
Just in general.
People who's performance in school could correctly said to be sub-par or mediocre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:03:51 No.7296847 Report Delete

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>>7296822
dfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:05:46 No.7296853 Report Delete

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>>7296844
>looking for comfort in your ineptitude.

That is what I'm doing. To put it more correctly, I'm trying to relate to people who have made similar past mistakes.

Answer the question or gtfo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:12:16 No.7296869 Report Delete

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>>7296844
How would this work if anon isn't already successful

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:14:46 No.7296875 Report Delete

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>>7296828
anon...oscar wilde graduated with a double first honors from oxford

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:16:13 No.7296878 Report Delete

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>>7296875
Oops Prof said it, my mistake.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:16:15 No.7296879 Report Delete

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>>7296847
lmao, dfw graduated summa cum laude and wrote two honors thesis

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:18:00 No.7296885 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297145 >>7297639 >>7300105

Faulkner got like a D- in english. You can be shit in academics if you're charismatic with a unique approach. Embrace what you know and don't try to hard to over step your limits with you're not quite comfortable with yet

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:18:32 No.7296886 Report Delete

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>>7296869
That's not relating that is using them as a crutch "they did it so can I." Which is why I say relate to yourself: find it in yourself why you failed and what you can do to succeed.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:57:48 No.7296995 Report Delete

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Pullman didn't do very well.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:00:01 No.7297002 Report Delete

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>>7296822
The first-year expository writing course that has been mandatory at Harvard since its founding is famous for humbling future fiction icons with Bs and A- grades. Too many to count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:01:21 No.7297008 Report Delete

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>>7296822
Plenty of authors did poorly. Not too many philosophers though, most of them (at least the ones that matter) did real good. The only philosopher I can think of who didn't excel ridiculously a lot is Derrida. Apparently a lot of his profs thought he was just too out there. Imagine that.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:15:17 No.7297040 Report Delete

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>tfw you partied too hard and got kicked out of a 4 year university and now you're living with you parents going to a CC with a 1.8 GPA and writing wacky "fictitious" drug-fueled short stories for your creative writing class

It's too late for me, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:16:59 No.7297043 Report Delete

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>>7296822

Sounds like you're looking for ways to maintain hope at your goal of becoming extremely famous.

The sooner you abandon this line of thought (which is incredibly subtle and involves much self-trickery) the better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:19:56 No.7297052 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297103 >>7297105 >>7297970

just kill yourself op you're hopeless

100% serious

at least when you suicide your family will pretend to care about you for a week or so, which is more than you'd ever accomplish while living or with any of your shit writing

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:20:01 No.7297053 Report Delete

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>>7296834
>fair

Looks like you didn't even go to school

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:20:16 No.7297055 Report Delete

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>>7297043
Not OP but how do I abandon it? I still have a lot of ideas I want to write down but I also feel like this walks hand to hand with a desire to be famous. I just want to take it easy and focus mainly on developing my skills, but there's this "inner will" that dreams of an excessively grand future.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:20:47 No.7297057 Report Delete

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me, that should give you hope tbh

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:37:35 No.7297103 Report Delete

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>>7297052
Why should I kill myself?

I didn't do as well throughout my undergrad as I wish I had, but I graduated and learned from it. Currently an MLIS student.

I like my life.

How do you know my writing is shit?

Some anon, probably a fat neet, is 100% sure I should kill myself. Wow, I'm feeling pretty low...not.

When did I indicate that I want validation from my family and peers. I think you demonstrated your own shit writing.

You are pathetic. Grow up.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:38:13 No.7297105 Report Delete

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>>7297052
This is the edgiest goddamn post ever

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:38:57 No.7297108 Report Delete

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>>7297043
I don't care about fame, but I do want to enter the craft.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:39:10 No.7297109 Report Delete

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>>7297103
>>7297105
>replying to shit posters
You're better than that, anons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:54:47 No.7297145 Report Delete

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>>7296885
>Faulkner
I remember reading he got like a 16 on the ACT, which means he hack to fuck up the English, Reading, and possibly even Writing sections.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:56:45 No.7297148 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297185 >>7297191 >>7297621

There are two types of people who do poorly in school:
1. Those without the necessary intelligence and mental capacity to do very simple tasks
2. Those whose attention is directed elsewhere

For the 2nd class of people, they are unconcerned about school because they're more concerned with endeavors they deem more worthwhile. For this specific case, it'd be their writing.

The very fact that you're concerned with your school performance, and are looking for solace in "similar" experienced of great writers, means you are definitely of the 1st category and not the second. Therefore you are doomed to a life of mediocrity

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:09:03 No.7297185 Report Delete

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>>7297148
You're not taking everything into consideration. I only did poorly during my undergraduate, during which time I was less concerned with famed authors, and more interested in my frat. I did quite well during the first year of my masters and am continuing to excel.

By the way, looking to relate to someone does not entail solace, perhaps I'm curious about other things relating to the connection.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:11:13 No.7297191 Report Delete

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>>7297148
Your attention can be directed in totally unproductive directions and then fixed on something worthwhile.

My dad did mediocre to poor for his first two years of college because he'd rather play basketball than study, but his second two years were strong enough to get into an elite PhD program, in a field children dream about entering.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:47:57 No.7297563 Report Delete

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You're so close to changing your life around anon. What serperated these peoples "second act" from their first was they put in the work.

It sucks, but it's time to start. Don't be a pleb, and be greater than your former self.

Or get back to surfing the internet mindlessly, hating yourself and dreaming of a better tomorrow that will never come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:17:28 No.7297621 Report Delete

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>>7297148
3. Those so intelligent they quite simply doesn't fit in, doesn't feel challenged(thus bored) and eventually develop serious mental problems.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:22:55 No.7297629 Report Delete

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>>7297008
Good philosophers just possess excellent critical skills and an ability to deconstruct arguments, which are the bread and butter of most humanitarian subjects. It's sad, but it's the reason why philosophy students actually have "good" (read: better than most creative subjects, STEM fags) employment prospects despite learning a totally non-practical skill, because they can juggle between abstract and logical arguments quite well.

Writers, on the other hand, are pure creativity. And if that creativity is disorganized, then you'll be struggling to jump through the banal loops of academia.

Don't give up anon, just remember you're not being tested for your ability to create great stories, move an audience, etc. Unless you're doing Creative Writing in HS, which is total BS too.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:28:22 No.7297639 Report Delete

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>>7296885
He actually never graduated from high school either.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:30:36 No.7297641 Report Delete

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>>7297145
That makes me feel a little better. I got a 19 on mine, but i really didn't even try because people kept telling me the ACTs didn't matter for the college wanted to go to.

Then i get to college and they put me in all the remedial classes. Feels bad to be in a class with kids who are literally illiterate.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:57:27 No.7297686 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7299957 >>7299997

>>7296822
Philip K. Dick quit university because of anxiety problems.
Frank Hebert wanted to study what he desired, so he quit university.
About Tolstoy: His teachers described him as "both unable and unwilling to learn."
Faulkner didn't even go to university. Saramago and a lot of others either.
T.S. Eliot hated university, so as many others like Bernard Shaw.
William Styron left college because he tought was a waste of time.
Salinger hated school, just read catcher in the rye and you will understand
Dostoevsky was forced into military school and hated every single moment of it.
Lovecraft had a nervous breakdown because of his difficult with math, forcing him to abandon his studies.
Dickens, Mark Twain, Melvile, Flaubert, Hemingway never attended university.

And there are many, many others OP. Don't feel bad. A great writer can come from anywhere. Formal education is not needed.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:34:45 No.7297731 Report Delete

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>>7297621
And it goes without saying this is you, right anon?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:57:55 No.7297837 Report Delete

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>>7297621
Representing

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:08:55 No.7297853 Report Delete

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>>7297621
Hello Reddit. DAE smart but lazy?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:12:49 No.7297861 Report Delete

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thomas mann never finished school. egon friedell needed four attempts. but it's usually richfags like them who could get away with it.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:14:03 No.7297864 Report Delete

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>>7297621
These exist, but the problem is that every idiotic, lazy loser likes to think that they're this guy and ignore the reality that they're just a moron waste of jizz.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:49:59 No.7297932 Report Delete

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Bukowski

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:52:55 No.7297937 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7297970 >>7299814

>hurr durr if a genius from the past was a fuckup and I'm a fuckup I might be a genius
>who /smartbutlazy/ here?
kill yourself OP

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:05:06 No.7297970 Report Delete

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>>7297937
>>7297052

this tbh

>>7297103

lol stfu faggots like you need to stop posting. /lit/ isnt your blog

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:05:11 No.7297971 Report Delete

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Balzac

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:58:30 No.7298101 Report Delete

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>>7296822
Kierkegaard did kind of bad. He took five years more than his brother to finish university.

Still, even though he had been there for a long time, he was well-regarded by some of his teachers. It is said that Kierkegaard didn't started study until his very last year (age 28), thus a young student said to a professor that he had plans of finishing soon with university - Kierkegaard did it studying only a year. The professor replied: "Don't fool yourself! That boy Kierkegaard, he knew everything!"

His PhD thesis was grade as one of the bunch, yet the most of the professors who evaluated all thesis seemed to agreed that, even if Kierkegaard's thesis didn't show as much knowledge as other thesis they saw, it has nevertheless a greater philosophical maturity than the rest.

Overall, it is hard to say how much of those comments were made at the time, and how much were made after Kierkegaard's philosophical influence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzBCI13rJmA

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:21:19 No.7299113 Report Delete

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>>7297970
Make me stop.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:26:40 No.7299132 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7299296

>>7296845
You are an idiot. Many didn't even have the means to go to school. As far as university goes, how can you be a failure in 2015 at a humanities department. You aren't taking the Oxford exam from 1905 for heavens sake.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:29:11 No.7299141 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300009

OP is just one of many delusional idiots who thinks he's brilliant. Sage and move on.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:42:14 No.7299187 Report Delete

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>>7296822
>Are there any good writers/authors or philosophers who did poorly in school/university?

Probably. Excelling in the bureaucracy of knowledge is a good indicator, but not a necessary condition for you to be a genius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:14:16 No.7299296 Report Delete

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>>7299132
Seriously, the bar for university is so much lower these days because there's been a push to get more people in and through. Most of these people only competed with children of the elite and the most brilliant of the lower classes. Nowadays we have schools where nobody scored over 30 on the SAT and everyone's in debt. If you fail at such a school you're just a fuckup.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:02:13 No.7299508 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7299525

>>7297641
Still, I feel like middle schoolers should be able to score well on ACT English. I'm ESL and I did better than Faulkner

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:05:33 No.7299525 Report Delete

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>>7299508
20 is average

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:09:39 No.7299543 Report Delete

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Luigi Pirandello

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:18:01 No.7299781 Report Delete

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>>7299525
That's pretty sad tbh

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:25:32 No.7299814 Report Delete

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>>7297937
This is a retarded generalization. I myself went from being a C student throughout high school to getting a 95 average in my senior year and getting my engineering degree from a top university. Some people are just late bloomer in that sense

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:30:28 No.7299835 Report Delete

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>>7299525
hahaha no fucking way

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:41:13 No.7299879 Report Delete

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>>7296822

I would say a large proportion. School teaches you to regurgitate what the professor says. But disagreeing with the professor, even though it will get you a worse grade, will help you in the long run by stimulating thought processes. It's why MFA's don't automatically become great authors.

Also, keep in mind most of the older philosophers had private tutors who were able to answer every single question. They weren't sitting in 500 person lectures designed to artificially extrapolate a bell curve from students who are in all honesty, perfectly substitutable.

Students are so afraid of achieving poor marks, they never question the material, despite the transitory nature of the pedagogy.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:50:48 No.7299919 Report Delete

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>>7299814
high school takes a lot more active effort to do well in than university

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:54:38 No.7299939 Report Delete

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>>7299781
>>7299835
here you ignorant fucks

https://www.google.com/webhp?source=search_app#q=average+act+score

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:58:59 No.7299957 Report Delete

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>>7297686
Orwell never attended university, too.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:09:10 No.7299997 Report Delete

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>>7297686
That's because writing is special snowflake tier.

>waah math and science are too hard
>I just want to do something easyyy
>hey I know! I'll half plagiarize someone else's work, then make up some stupid bullshit for the other half!!
>wew literature!!

No wonder women and other academic failures pursue liberal arts. You basically do it if you're a whiny, useless, lazy fuck

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:11:34 No.7300002 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300033 >>7300121

>>7299296
Bait? Uni's are much harder to get into than previous years. Ivy acceptance rate is at an all time low. Those uni's you're talking about have always existed, but top tier schools are only getting harder to get in to.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:14:56 No.7300009 Report Delete

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>>7299141
Leave OP alone. Seriously, if he's a shit-tier moron, he's gonna find out pretty damn soon.

But OP should know, overall, great writers are more likely to have been brilliant students in Oxbridge and Ivy League schools rather than people who didn't do well in higher education.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:25:44 No.7300033 Report Delete

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>>7300002
No, he's right. The percentage of people with university educations in the west has increased drastically in the past decades. I live in Canada, and over half the population has post secondary education whereas back in say the 40s, post secondary was refined to a relatively small group of intellectuals and people working towards top tier careers

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:30:03 No.7300054 Report Delete

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>>7300033
you have an unbased assumption that those people in the 1940's were not capable of doing a similar university curriculum.

Just because they were not doesn't mean they could not.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:30:51 No.7300058 Report Delete

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>>7296822
>9gag image macro

Bravo, /lit/eddit

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:34:07 No.7300074 Report Delete

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>>7300054
What the fuck are you even talking about? I'm just saying that nowadays a lot more people go to post secondary institutions. I was making an example of the 40s, but really anytime before the 70s, a university degree was much more prestigious compared to now.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:36:05 No.7300078 Report Delete

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>>7300074
>Seriously, the bar for university is so much lower these days because there's been a push to get more people in and through. Most of these people only competed with children of the elite and the most brilliant of the lower classes. Nowadays we have schools where nobody scored over 30 on the SAT and everyone's in debt. If you fail at such a school you're just a fuckup.
this is who the person you responded to disagreed with

you said he is right. I responded saying he may not be right and therefore you may not be right

>What the fuck are you even talking about?
ugh

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:38:25 No.7300083 Report Delete

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>>7297191
>My dad's an astronaut
Lucky fuck.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:39:05 No.7300085 Report Delete

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>>7300078
What you were saying was just incoherent and you clearly missed what I was saying, hence my confusion

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:40:04 No.7300089 Report Delete

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>>7300085
you may have to read it over and over but it is not incoherent

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:43:52 No.7300103 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300113

>>7300089
>you have an unbased assumption that those people in the 1940's were not capable of doing a similar university curriculum.

I didn't say anywhere that people in the 40s were less capable you illiterate.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:44:03 No.7300105 Report Delete

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>>7296885
That's why he had to use the bullshit that is called stream of consciousness

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:45:46 No.7300113 Report Delete

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>>7300103
BUT THE GUY YOU YOU REFERRED TO AS BEING RIGHT SAID THEY WERE, AND YOU NEVER DISAGREED WITH THAT

>you illiterate
no u

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:48:49 No.7300119 Report Delete

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>>7300113
He didn't say that either, jesus, learn to read. He was saying standards were HIGHER and therefore people were MORE capable back then

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:49:22 No.7300121 Report Delete

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>>7300002
I explicitly targeted for criticism the mid to low tier schools for not being rigorous. Obviously the Ivy League, Stanford and MIT have an insanely high barrier to entry, and the top 30 or so US universities are respectably tough.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:56:47 No.7300136 Report Delete

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>>7299997
/LIT/ ON SUICIDE WATCH

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:59:06 No.7300144 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300157

>>7300119
now THAT makes no sense

>Seriously, the bar for university is so much lower these days because there's been a push to get more people in and through

for the guy you referred to, "he's right"

The bar for university implies there are more dumb people who are capable of university now

IT may in fact be the case that plenty of people back in the 40's to use your random ass example were intellectually capable but not monetarily capable/transportation etc.

And therefore the change has not been in the universities standards but in the accessibility of universities.

I bet you never even thought of this possibility even if you decide to say I am wrong in response. hehe

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:04:17 No.7300157 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300166

>>7300144
Now you're just being autistic. It's pretty simple really. More people go to university now than those that did before. It's not because of 'transportation' or 'accessibility' but because job requirements and demands have changed a lot over the years. There is more competition for office jobs whereas in the past most men worked in trades or unskilled labor. The way the economy operates has changed a lot as well.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:07:08 No.7300166 Report Delete

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>>7300157
personal motivation is included in my "etc" which means, and all the rest, if you weren't sure

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:09:56 No.7300176 Report Delete

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>>7300136
Not really. Part of the reason you need a thick skin to write is that everyone, writer included, knows that there's nothing impressive about it unless you're insanely good.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:12:54 No.7300190 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300220

>>7300176
I think he raises some good points tho. The types that I saw go into liberal arts were the people that barely got accepted to university and who weren't even good at their study. For many it is a way to say 'I went to university'

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:20:12 No.7300220 Report Delete

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>>7300190
because i think you are sincere I'll post my counterpoint

You find those people everywhere, you find people in stem who cannot communicate worth shit, autism tier (to put it bluntly), and yet they achieve because they work hard enough to pass. A perfect mirror for what that other memer said about writers.

That being said, my personal favorite writers usually went into stem and decided they didn't like it, they were very good at it though. I am similar to my favorite writers, as a child science and history were by far my easiest, then it flipped and now I prefer the humanities, but science and all that still comes easy to me.

All that being said, I would never go to university for a lit/writing degree. If you are good enough to be an actual good writer you can do it on your own.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:23:38 No.7300230 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300242

>>7300220
Liberal arts is the lowest entry point for any university tho. If you even get into a good STEM program, you are doing pretty well

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:25:34 No.7300236 Report Delete

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>>7297621
ah yes, the myth of the unsung genius whose brilliance simply didn't fit in the box. let me tell you something: all the great geniuses responsible for initiating revolutionary change in their fields were able to do so because they do those fields better than anyone else, even their teachers. they were only able to get outside the box by rigorously investigating every nook and cranny, finding the microscopic fault lines nobody else realized were letting in the light they read by.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:28:18 No.7300242 Report Delete

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>>7300230
>If you even get into a good STEM program, you are doing pretty well
if you get into a good liberal arts program you are doing pretty well

you added 'good' in there and it ruined your whole point

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:31:18 No.7300252 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7300268 >>7300324

>>7300242
I hate how /lit/tards get autistic about adding a word like that. At any university, the entry point will be lowest for liberal arts and highest for STEM. Generally, but not always, there aren't any super bright people going into liberal arts

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:34:13 No.7300264 Report Delete

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>>7299997
lel I know high schoolers who write better than you do

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:35:20 No.7300268 Report Delete

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>>7300252
>I hate how /lit/tards get autistic about adding a word like that.
i pay attention to words, what do you expect

i agree with your last sentence with the amendment that says there are not many super bright people to start off with, going into STEM more often or not

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:35:34 No.7300270 Report Delete

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I can get what you're doing OP. I remember reading philosophy in Middle School but getting piss poor grades.
But remember, academic performance isn't what's important for writing, it's your writing.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:46:19 No.7300305 Report Delete

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>>7297621
Did you ever hear the story about the son of the sun? He was so brilliant that no one could bear to look at him and he died alone. As he lay in the firepit that was his deathbed, he realized that people had actually avoided looking at him because he was an arrogant prick and no one wanted to interact with him.

The moral of the story is that I think it's time for you to return to the subreddit from whence you came.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:53:02 No.7300324 Report Delete

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>>7300252
lmao, you don't apply to a major at Harvard, you apply to Harvard College as a undeclared major. Then you can pick English, Physics or many majors in between.

Or you can apply to the Engineering school, which is easier to get into than Harvard College. Do some research on how elite schools work, bro.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:17:48 No.7300404 Report Delete

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>>7299814
you did it because you worked harder and didn't wallow in self pity or smug satisfaction. You improved yourself instead of looking for reasons why being lazy was fine (eg Einstein got poor grades too or whatever)

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:30:11 No.7300907 Report Delete

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>>7297185
You don't understand what this anon is trying to say. Just by asking that question and having that mentality you already belong to the first group. Besides you talk about it in terms of fame and accomplishment, you don't want to write because of writing.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:38:43 No.7300924 Report Delete

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>>7296822
please go back to facebook.

>>7296831
Explains everything.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:43:01 No.7300935 Report Delete

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>>7300924
>>7296831
This makes a lot of sense. C.S. Lewis is fucking retarded. The fact that everyone at my church thought his apologetics were valid was one of the first steps to me becoming an atheist.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:44:43 No.7300941 Report Delete

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nigga I didn't even go to college and I'm the best writer alive

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:25:50 No.7302482 Report Delete

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>>7300935
Lewis received a First in Honour Moderations (Greek and Latin literature) in 1920, a First in Greats (Philosophy and Ancient History) in 1922, and a First in English in 1923. In 1924 he became a philosophy tutor at University College.

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