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Anonymous Thu 05 Feb 2015 18:43:34 No.777663 View Reply Report Delete

Let's have a thread dedicated to electric freight in the U.S. and Canada (hard mode: no interurbans)

Please, no discussion of the Milwaukee Road's dieselization or the politics involved. Feel free to discuss the western portion of the railroad itself, though.

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Anonymous Thu 13 Aug 2015 06:28:08 No.862493 Report Delete

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>>855091
Yeah but I heard the railroad industry hates people with degrees

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Anonymous Wed 19 Aug 2015 09:38:40 No.865311 Report Delete

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>>862493
Depends on the degree tbh

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Anonymous Fri 21 Aug 2015 11:11:06 No.866206 Report Delete

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bros, what's the best page on Facebook that shares train content?

I've checked out I Love Trains, but the fan posts are a bit odd

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Anonymous Mon 24 Aug 2015 14:17:53 No.867567 Report Delete

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>>866206
>fan posts are a bit odd

What do you expect from a bunch of foamers? Hate to break it to ya but wherever you go you'll find weirdos.

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Anonymous Mon 24 Aug 2015 16:06:00 No.867612 Report Delete

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>>853756
More like 1910s technology, to be accurate.

>3,000 VDC and resistor bank controls.

I wonder if they even ever upgraded to mercury arc rectifiers, or did they use rotary converters to the end? (That said, nothing too wrong with them, really: long lived, not very maintenance hungry, just need it regularly, very good efficiency too, specially with the bigger units, just that mercury arc was even better.)

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Anonymous Mon 24 Aug 2015 16:07:24 No.867614 Report Delete

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>>867612
When I say this, I get some typical American answer, I supposed.

>but the mercury would have been stolen from the trackside for the scrap-value!

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Anonymous Mon 24 Aug 2015 17:16:24 No.867637 Report Delete

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>>867614
>Motor-generators were used, because mercury arc and solid state rectifiers had not been invented in 1914.

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2015 23:23:20 No.874330 Report Delete

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>tfw even fucking Albania has more electrified freight rail than America

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Anonymous Mon 07 Sep 2015 23:39:09 No.874335 Report Delete

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>>874330
So what?

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Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 01:28:50 No.876053 Report Delete

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUzGKM5MfiQ

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Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 04:37:18 No.879984 Report Delete

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>>874335
implications

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Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 10:51:06 No.880061 Report Delete

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>>874330
Albania: 28,748 km2
US: 9,857,306 km
CAN: 9,984,670 km2

See a difference?

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Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2015 22:05:49 No.884998 Report Delete

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Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2015 22:35:29 No.885006 Report Delete

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>>884998
rip in peace based new haven :C

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 17:35:39 No.888922 Report Delete

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>>777777

Wew, noice. :^)

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 17:37:59 No.888923 Report Delete

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>>777777
>250 days and 15 hours ago
>>888888
happened just now.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 18:35:07 No.888937 Report Delete

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>>829892
That's one happy looking choo choo.

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 19:12:54 No.888942 Report Delete

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So, in this modern day and age, do you think electrified freight can make a comeback? It seems to me the biggest hurdle is simply the maintenance of the overhead itself. Has anything happened in the past 50-60 years to make that easier?

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Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 22:58:45 No.888984 Report Delete

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>>888923

exciting

>>888942

It'll make a comeback eventually. The fact is, the price of oil isn't going to stay low while the human population will only increase. More demand for oil means a higher oil price. The thing is, freight companies can simply charge a fuel surcharge so they can cover most fuel cost increases. It's only when the oil supply because ridiculously overpriced or restricted will they seriously look at electrification. It wouldn't be a small task either, most likely you'd have all the freight RRs lobbying the feds for "financial assistance" (even though none of them would really need it).

Alternatively if you fancy yourself the paranoid type increasing EPA emissions regulations will force it. Caterpillar (who owns EMD) already had this problem with their commercial truck engines in the 90s. Alternatively to that, if you fancy yourself the filthy socialist type the feds could just mandate it at some point assuming a liberal enough Congress pushed it.

It'll take a long time though.

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 00:20:14 No.888995 Report Delete

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Sacramento northern railroad
1918 - 1980 probably one of the most iconic yet forgotten railways in the us. Back i the day when the sf bay bridge had a lower part for trains. S.N.R.W. was a 185 mile railroad from sacramento to sf it ran through the country and and its all but abandoned lines now with a stretch for the museum

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 00:28:53 No.888997 Report Delete

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>>777663
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LS9yv2LnqH0

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 03:13:29 No.889026 Report Delete

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>>777777
CHECKED

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 05:02:18 No.889036 Report Delete

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>>777806
>people have to discuss the train topics I say are fine to discuss

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Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 05:06:51 No.889037 Report Delete

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>>779017
>pic shows and ex-NdeM
rest in peace

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 03:05:54 No.889255 Report Delete

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It's incredibly ironic how as the rest of the world welcomes electrification the US thought they were being modern by going for diesel instead.

Electricity is more efficient and means you don't have to spew dirty diesel fumes along the railway.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 20:36:45 No.889438 Report Delete

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>>888923
And it's gone just like that. What was the get?

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 20:38:37 No.889439 Report Delete

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>>889255
Guess what powers the electric grid.
Dirty coal.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 21:07:31 No.889449 Report Delete

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>>889439
Would you rather have a coal power station in the middle of nowhere or have diesel fumes released along vast distances and through populated areas? Coal is incredibly efficient for electricity. Also nuclear is used too, I don't know about the percentages in the US though.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 21:13:39 No.889453 Report Delete

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>>889439
>>889449
Coal is relatively good in terms of emissions if the plant is modern. Certainly better than individual internal combustion engines on every shitty little vehicle in the universe.

The coal industry exaggerates this though, there are still a lot of shitty old ass coal plants all over the place polluting their immediate surroundings, and also you basically have to turn entire states into scarred moonscapes for practical purposes.

There's no perfect solution, but at the same time no energy source has a monopoly on side effects.

Let's not oversimplify, people.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 21:22:14 No.889460 Report Delete

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>>889439
>>889449
>>889453
If you dipshits are going to argue like autists over stupid shit could you at least post images of electric trains while you take the thread closer to the bump limit?

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 21:41:57 No.889474 Report Delete

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>>889449
I'd actually rather have nuclear over coal. But if coal is to be used the nice thing is that at least you have one more efficient plant than a bunch of little ones on trains.
But still, you can't do what China plants are doing.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 21:44:13 No.889477 Report Delete

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>>889460
I'll leave that to you.

Also, I forgot solar and wind etc.
It really takes a diversified portfolio.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:00:34 No.891049 Report Delete

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Loozerz

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:06:18 No.891055 Report Delete

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Why don't you go to a real board like /b/?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:22:41 No.893300 Report Delete

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>>777808
>6 bogies

>Imagine

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:53:13 No.893306 Report Delete

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 15:38:52 No.893311 Report Delete

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>>777808
>2,000 ton train
>Heavy
Not even a little bit heavy.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:19:37 No.893317 Report Delete

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>>817404
Dammnit, why can't MBTA have nice trams like that.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:21:09 No.893329 Report Delete

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>>893317
Because the MBTA is poor and its management is incompetent.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:21:18 No.893330 Report Delete

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>>893300
Six? I see a pair of twin-axle bogies and a pair of quads.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:08:37 No.893356 Report Delete

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>>828192
China tried to do that and they got epic traffic jams for it. Doesn't work.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:08:54 No.893386 Report Delete

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>>880061
Yeah, the US is pretty one dimensional.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:10:08 No.893399 Report Delete

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>>893330
I was counting the quads as two. Maybe I shouldn't do that.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:50:17 No.893651 Report Delete

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>>777663
Milwaukee Road you say?

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