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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 14:48:14 No.891042 View Reply Report Delete

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Shots fired by the NS over PTC.

It's ballsy. I like it.

http://www.nscorp.com/content/nscorp/en/service-alerts/notice-of-cessationofserviceeffectivedecember12015forallshipment.html

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 14:57:25 No.891047 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891053 >>891240

I don't tbh. Norfolk Southern had a record $2 billion in net income for 2014 and a 69.2 percent operating ratio. They have plenty of money to spare and could have easily complied with PTC by the deadline if they actually wanted to. UP and BNSF have even higher profits than NS and also failed to comply. This is just more proof that corporations feel they are above the law and basically at this point they do have more power than the state and federal governments in governing their own affairs. I think it's just another sign of how far America has fallen and its shameful tbh.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:05:13 No.891053 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891066

>>891047
It's not about money, it's about the timeline.

This system is unproven, untested, and unfunded. I don't blame anyone for being unable to comply.

Also
>BNSF
>Knowing its profit margins

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:15:05 No.891066 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891075

>>891053
Right, BNSF is Penn Central tier, they'll need the federal government to bail them out of bankruptcy soon.

And it absolutely is about the money, which is why BNSF was trying to eliminate two-man crews to offset the cost of PTC compliance. Oh and to "improve safety" by having less eyes and ears able to react on the ground in case something happens. It was pretty blatant what they were doing which is why it's great the railroad unions told them to fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:27:07 No.891075 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891083

>>891066
No, I mean you cannot get profit numbers for BNSF like you can on other railroads since they are wholly owned by Mr. Buffett.

But yeah, fuck PTC. Fuck the EOT too. It got rid of the caboose, and that was a good job.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:36:17 No.891083 Report Delete

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>>891075
>No, I mean you cannot get profit numbers for BNSF like you can on other railroads since they are wholly owned by Mr. Buffett.

I know that, but just because you can't get the actual numbers doesn't mean BNSF isn't making record profits like all the other Class Is.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:49:30 No.891101 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891102 >>891106 >>891119 >>891623

NATIONALIZATION TIME

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:54:34 No.891102 Report Delete

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>>891101
Sounds good to me tbh. Actual incompetence can't be any worse than intentional incompetence.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:59:40 No.891106 Report Delete

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>>891101
As long as my contract and pay are upheld, I'm okay with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 17:38:09 No.891117 Report Delete

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>>891106
Nice terrorist watch K-POW.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 17:45:06 No.891119 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891142 >>891150

>>891101
Considering all the mega-mergers of the 80s and 90s I wonder if there would be a lot of redundant trackage or if most of it has already been pulled up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 18:47:27 No.891141 Report Delete

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>NS actually stopping Amtrak service
>in the middle of a budget battle

woo lads we're having another government shutdown while the president and congress have a pissing match over this

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 18:48:46 No.891142 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891163

>>891119

>post STB
>any tracks ever getting pulled up

lol, no

>>891106

>>>>>>>>>>>working for a french canadian company that supported le weed man

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 19:26:28 No.891150 Report Delete

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>>891119
Most trackage isn't pulled up these days. It's just sold off to shortlines.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:01:14 No.891163 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891173 >>891177

>>891142
>CN
>French-canadian
lel
I wish I had scanned those pages of newspapers dating back to the mid-60s where the head of CN was calling French-Canadians a bunch of inbred morons who were too stupid to flip a switch in a yard.

They didn't say anything during the campaign either. Only that dumb prick Harrison opened his mouth recently:
>http://www.princegeorgecitizen.com/just-leave-us-alone-ceo-of-canadian-pacific-railway-tells-trudeau-1.2090487

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:20:34 No.891173 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891175 >>891177

>>891163
>Harrison not buying new motors, cutting jobs, deferring maintenance, and screwing crews into accepting hourly contracts.

I see he's still up to his old tricks.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:23:42 No.891175 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891177 >>891178

>>891173
Yep. I'm sure he'll do wonders at UP, CSX or NS once he's done gutting CP for dividends.

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:27:40 No.891177 Report Delete

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>>891163
>>891173
>>891175
And people claim modern corporations are nothing like the ones in the late 19th century.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:28:50 No.891178 Report Delete

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>>891175
[spolier]not if he dies first[/spoiler:lit]

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:41:03 No.891181 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891185

Is it any coincidence that E. Hunter Harrison has the same initials as E. H. Harriman?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 20:55:41 No.891185 Report Delete

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>>891181
Harrison is just an ass, but I love that the CN named their Memphis hump yard after him... then he went over to CP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:42:49 No.891240 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891242

>>891047
they've been trying to force PTS/PTC on railroads SINCE THE 1940s

the problem isnt the locomotives, the problem is stoner engineers texting while running through red signals

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Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:46:17 No.891242 Report Delete

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>>891240
PTC prevents relatively few accidents.

Most of the big disasters and fatalities are because of other operational failures or track defects.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:54:21 No.891244 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891247

Why not just bring back cab signalling?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:57:09 No.891245 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891252

>>891242
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naperville_train_disaster
is why we have 79mph speed limit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1987_Maryland_train_collision
is why we have to pee in a cup to get a job now

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:59:09 No.891247 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891461

>>891244
it never went away. engineer has to also call in to dispatch the color of the signal, when he's not busy slapping the dead man's switch

its why you'll often see an oddball locomotive leading - the trailing units [eg., from another road working off horsepower-hours] may not be certified for that stretch of track

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 00:10:03 No.891252 Report Delete

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>>891245
>Passenger crews fucking it up for everyone
Yeah, they're the worst.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:43:39 No.891461 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>891464

>>891247
>engineer has to also call in to dispatch the color of the signal
Only signals not indicating 'clear' need to be called out, in CTC and ABS territory at least

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:53:05 No.891464 Report Delete

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>>891461
>implying I call out anything in ABS and that I call out anything more restrictive than approach.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 03:42:24 No.891623 Report Delete

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>>891101
Penn Central 2: Electric Boogaloo

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Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 23:26:18 No.891930 Report Delete

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>>891106
Speaking of railroad jobs, how does one get a job onboard a locomotive? Is it worth it if you're just looking for an excuse to travel while getting paid?

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