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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:29:18 No.13739290 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739388

>325bhp 6 cyl engine
>6spd manual
>rwd
>comfortable
>drives well
Why shouldn't I?

Talk me out of it
>wat car iz gewd

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:31:19 No.13739300 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739317

Does the engine sound come from door speakers?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:33:43 No.13739314 Report Delete

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You should. It's a good car.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:34:01 No.13739317 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739338 >>13739346 >>13739511

>>13739300
Did you know that most "performance" cars (and even proper ones) these days have either a digitial or physical symposer?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:38:11 No.13739338 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739356 >>13739383

>>13739317
Apart BMW I didn't. Which ones?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:39:53 No.13739346 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739427

>>13739317
And by physical symposer do you mean a microphone in the intake ducting or plain duct from the intake to the cabin?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:41:28 No.13739356 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739375

>>13739338
Not him, but Porsche, Lexus, Volkswagen and Ford have all done it

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(Shrek is Drek) !ctNW7mA5As Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:44:36 No.13739371 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13740526

>inb4 BMW is unreliable meme

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:45:22 No.13739374 Report Delete

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>turbo BMW
not even once

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:45:23 No.13739375 Report Delete

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>>13739356
Wasn't the Porsche's system just a duct from the intake? The same kind of thing that BRZ has? I consider that still semi-legit compared to straight up creating the sound and playing it from the speakers in the way BMW does.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:46:25 No.13739383 Report Delete

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>>13739338
Most Porsches, the new 488 Ferrari, plenty Mercedes, Jaguars, Fords, you fucking name it.

You will often find it on turbo cars especially.

The reasons behind its inclusion in different cars are different. Regarding the Porsches, for example, they market the symposer as a means for the driver isolate exhaust noise from the cabin when they want to chill and not be bothered by a rumbling exhaust whilst cruising, for example. The driver can then switch it on when he's feeling frisky and wants to stroke his driving peen with some based flat-6 aural stimuli.

The mark 2 Focus ST and RS has a "thumper" in their cars because the cabin was too well-insulated and turbo cars are in general always quieter than NA engines.

Symposers are a thing now. I don't like it at all but thankfully it can be switched off.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:47:13 No.13739388 Report Delete

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>>13739290
>Why shouldn't I
there's no reason, it's a really fun car if you can maintain it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:53:20 No.13739427 Report Delete

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>>13739346
Physical ones are either exhaust ducting, whether into silencing/loudening chambers, or "thumpers".

Thumpers are essentially a subwoofer speaker places in the engine bay that vibrates the front of the car in time with engine revs, to make it seem like the engine is louder than it is.

Microphone in the intake would be a digital symposer because it's coverting a live sound into a digital stream which is then played through the speakers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:04:39 No.13739481 Report Delete

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That booty, too. I'd buy it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:09:56 No.13739511 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739555 >>13739566

>>13739317
This bothered me when I first learned of it, but then I thought about it some more. Engine noise and exhaust tone are a pretty big part of spirited driving. With cars being more and more insulated from sound, you lose a lot of that. It's like the idea that if we ever had widespread individual level spacefaring going on, space suits would probably have speakers to reproduce the sounds you'd expect so as not to deprive you of that sense.

Of course, car companies could just not worry so much about insulating their cars, but that's what the bulk of the market wants, so they do.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:17:50 No.13739555 Report Delete

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>>13739511
I like symposers because you can DD them and not be driven to madness by the loud noises whilst stuck in traffic, but if you want to have a spirited drive with some loud noises, you can.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:18:25 No.13739560 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739604

Prices on mainland are fucked up...
That's 43k Canadian.

2013 ft86 is 21k here... If I look up UK prices, its 33 Canadian... Wwwttffff

Anyways, get the car, but get it in automatic.
All my friends (28+) who went from manual to auto say "I love it more, guess I'm growing up".
This way u can drive and finger bang ur gf.

Personally driving an auto FRS and a manual c30 ATM. IMO Auto is superior for variety of reasons.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:20:16 No.13739566 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739588 >>13739606

>>13739511
U wat?
Spirited driving should be about handling ... Why does loud component nose even get into this??!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:24:35 No.13739588 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13739625

>>13739566
You car speaks to you through three primary sensations. Feeling, sound and smell. You feel the road through the steering wheel, you feel pressure through your pedals and you feel the pitch and roll as well as lateral g's through your car itself. Then there's sound. Your car talks to you as you push it. You listen to the engine as you hammer through your gears, knowing when to shift based on a combination of feeling and sound without ever having to glance down at your cluster. And there's the non-engine sounds too, like your tires or clunking/creaking of older cars as you drive.

Finally there's smell. The least important until you smell burning components and then it becomes pretty important.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:27:56 No.13739604 Report Delete

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>>13739560
>auto is superior
You're just asking for a shitstorm man

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:28:13 No.13739606 Report Delete

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>>13739566
It just does. It's a stimuli that evokes excitement. Exhaust noise not something that can be ascribed to a particular individual notion, it's just part of the overall "package" of driving and has been since driving enthusiasts were a thing.

It's why the aftermarket exhaust market is worth billions, because a lot of people like their cars to sound loud and racecar. It's why in the days of carbs people would spend hours and hours tinkering with them so they would give off both great performance and amazing sound. Throttle bodies can also be tuned for sound as well as performance. Some manufacturers choose a specific firing sequence in their engines in order to create great (and sometimes notable) sound.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:32:04 No.13739625 Report Delete

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>>13739588
Chuckled at the smell.

I donno. I kinda prefer the more insulated cars. I can feel thought the clutch (c30 has a sensor clutch, I'm so mad) and the shifter. The speeds and occasional rpm read.
I know which gear I'm in, I know how fast I'm going and which gear I need to be in in the next few seconds.
The noise is OK, but I'd much rather not have it in my face.
Personal preference. Just like the auto transmissions. Especially double clutch ones.

Kinda on topic: started insulating my FRS. Best decision ever. If anyone here has an FRS, go get your doors and rear seats done.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:36:14 No.13739645 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>13740482

>>13739606
>BMW, exhaust, butterfly valve failure.
Went on a 335is I was driving, had to call Germany so that dealer would replace with an exhaust with out the valves.

For me, loud exhaust is fine as long as the fumes flow with minimal obstruction.
But getting systems in place that amplify the sound is like "whaaaaa".

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:09:49 No.13740482 Report Delete

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>>13739645
>But getting systems in place that amplify the sound is like "whaaaaa"
Eh, I don't think it's a huge deal.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:16:59 No.13740526 Report Delete

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>>13739371
Darn, you've defeated me again.

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