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>>54698073
Yeah but we're not like him, don't confuse Italians for that faggot
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>>54697361
This shit is hilarious

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>>54697361
WE

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>>54699158
No sweat, Nofret will spawn him.

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Maybe he's sleeping

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>>54699246
How can they be so god damn disconnected from reality? I've read some of the sites/"sources" these Afrocentrists read, how anybody could take such nonsensical drivel seriously is beyond me.

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>>54699361
Maybe I'm his nemesis and he's scared of me.

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>>54697361
she totally looks black,

just like black Mozart.

Anonymous

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All the early major Berber tribes including the Masmuda, Sanhaja, Ketama Zenata and Nafusa are described as dark reddish brown like the “Indi’ or as “blacks” or Ethiopians in early documents. The notion of the early Berbers as being “whites” or Caucasoid is a new and racist one related to the concept of the African “Hamite”. Certainly the original Berber-speakers were never referred to as anything but “black” or something near it until the 12th century and were otherwise considered the color of Abyssinians and other so called “Indi”.

>1st century A.D.– Marcus Valerian Martial was one of the earliest Europeans to use the phrase “woolly hair like a Moor” in one of his Satires, and the phrase was commonly used up until the Middle Ages.

>1st century Silius Italicus also describes the Moors with the term ‘Nigra’ meaning black. In the 3rd century Roman dramatist Platus or Plautus maintained the name Maure was a synonym for “Niger” which was a common term for the word black.

>6th A.D.- Corippus uses the phrase “facies nigroque colorus” meaning faces or appearance of black color to describe the North African Berbers. In his book Johannis, I/ 245.

>6th A.D. – Procopius in his History of the Wars book IV contrasting the Germanic Vandals who had settled in North Africa with the Maures claimed the Vandals were not “black skinned like the Maurusioi” . The tribes he classified as Maurusioi are those now classified as ancient Berbers, the Numidians, Masaesyle, Gaitules, Massyles and Mezikes several other “Berber” tribes then settled between Tunisia and Morocco.

>After the 8th century the term Moor came to be used for the many Arabian clans who had invaded the Mediterranean and Africa because of their complexions which were the same dark brown or near black to absolutely black color of the Berbers.

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>>54699478

Ok guys I am done here. I see that you all will never change your mind but to think that Egyptians were not black is like to say Celts are not white. Consider my trip-code inactive.

Bye.

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>>54699466
cillian murphy is black

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IMPERSONATOR

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>>54699568
He's Canadian, not from the US. And.... We're just suggesting that at least some were obviously not black, yet he posits that all were black.

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>>54699565
When they said black, they were talking about hair color. I'm pretty sure Eric the Red didn't look native american.

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>>54698501
They wuz black

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Maybe this will invoke him:

Many erroneously believe that Kemet (translated to Black Land,) seems to illustrate that all Ancient Egyptians were black. However, it's fairly well known that it's actually referring to the once fertile black soil surrounding the nile.

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Summon these digits

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Anonymous ID:UzSins+W Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:57:13 No.54700104 Report Delete

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I feel bad for raziocinante now

I liked him but hated him also.

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>>54699565
Plautus also states that Carthaginian and Irish Celtic was a closely related language group.

> PHOENICIAN OF PLAUTUS:
Byth lym mo thym nociothii nel ech an ti daisc machon
Ys i do iebrim thyfe lyth chy lya chon temlyph ula.

> EARLY IRISH-CELTIC:
Beth liom' mo thime nociaithe, niel ach an ti dairie mae coinne
Is i de leabhraim tafach leith, chi lis con teampluibh ulla.
pic related is the skull of a Barbary Ape indigenous to North Africa found in a 4th century BC fort in Norther Ireland.

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Anonymous ID:f0QE0Bq0 Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:59:42 No.54700218 Report Delete

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I only come to these thread for the CunCuck. He's got too much bullshit saved up for him to just be fucking with everyone. So there's some Canadian who sites searching /pol/ for these threads to shill for nigger dick with sources that don't exist, and my favorite ones, sources that are pulled from some nigger infront of a webcam.

God damn your nation is such a cucked bitch canada.

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>>54697695
TOP FUCKING KEK

WAS WAS KINGZ

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>>54699565
Yeah mufugga dey was blacka dan midnite white man came n painted dem pictures up

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Anonymous ID:Jvjvxx5b Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:03:36 No.54700428 Report Delete

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WE BUILT CIVILIZATION N SHIEET
GREEKS AND EGYPTIANS WUZ WHYTE

>This is what stormblr believes

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>>54698073
>nigga italian
Muh Balotelli

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Anonymous ID:TfZjaaCo Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:12:33 No.54700818 Report Delete

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>Caucasian admixture means you're not black

I guess African-Americans aren't black then

>According to 23andme.com, the average African American is 75 percent sub-Saharan African, 22 percent European and only 0.6 percent Native American.

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>>54697695
Link?

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>>54698073
WE WUZ CAESARS N SHIT

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So Jews can claim they was gods and shiet coz Jesus was a jew ?

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>>54700818
>admixture
More like they simply weren't black, not mixed, nothing to do with them.

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>>54697361
King tut was genetically European

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>>54699386
It comes from their insecurities

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Why summon a autist nig lover? Is he even funny?

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:09:21 No.54703375 Report Delete

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I've looked into his sources, and he's pretty much right. Ancient Egyptians were not fucking Caucasian. Stick to looking into the legacies of YOUR own cultures.

You knuckle-head Northern Europeans have no claim to the civilizations of Ancient Egypt, Ancient Persia, Ancient India, and etc. They all have great legacies and were non-White.

I mean, you guys have great legacies too... except for the Nords. Fuck the Nords. Balkan peoples really are better than Northern Europeans lol.

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>>54703375
They weren't white, but they sure as shit weren't black.

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>>54703423

Shut the fuck up, you knuckle-head. If you read his sources, then you'd realize a lot of Eastern Africans share a strong phenotypically and genetic link with Ancient Egyptians.

1st Dynasty, Old Kingdom, First Intermediate, Middle, Second Intermediate Kingdoms, New Kingdoms, Third Intermediate Kingdoms, etc. of Ancient Egyptians were initially very similar to ""Fellaheen people of modern day Egypt, the Beja people of northern Sudan, the people of Luxor, the Manasir people along with modern Nubians, the Afar people of Ethiopia, the Beni-Amer people of Eritrea/Sudan, Somalis, Eritreans and other people of the African Great Lakes region".

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>>54699667
He's Italian. He's only here temporarily (thank Christ)

Raziocinante

Raziocinante ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:28:35 No.54704136 Report Delete

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All modern Blacks are descended from Egyptians. Remember, it was YOU whites who were the slaves.

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It's so hard for me to acknowledge there were advanced Eastern African black civilizations! Everything that has a hint of nobility MUST be White, her derp!

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>>54704136
>no trip
Ya nice try faggot.

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>>54704015

Refute these faggot

>>54700261
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Ancient Egyptians were cool for their love of cats, but holy shit did they suck at defending themselves.

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>>54704269
Second link was meant to be: >>54700382

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>>54704269

He already has in his fucking other discussions, moron.

If you can sit down, put aside your biases, and read in an impartial manner, you'd see he's right. Besides, his views actually correspond with modern academia moreso.

Read this:

>>54296562

I'm trying to find his other chat too, but Egyptians depicted themselves in different colors because it had symbolic purpose that Egyptologists figured out. Recent DNA evidence show Razio is correct though.

Like I've said, stop trying to claim other people's heritages, fucking faggots.

Anonymous

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>>54704363

Here's his other discussion where he gives copious sources:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/54147947/

In short:

"Ancient Egypt was thought by many scholars to have been a melting pot of various Saharan, Nilotic, and Levantine peoples since earliest times,[107][108] but some scholars in Egyptology today believe that there weren't any pre-Hellenic Egyptians who looked anything like modern Europeans.[109] The archaeologist Bruce Williams commented that few Egyptians, ancient or modern, would have been able to get a meal at a white lunch counter in the American South during the 1950s. Archaeologist, Bruce trigger cites what he saw as a deliberate obfuscation of racial politics, asserting that the early nile valley populations (including Egyptians) were all Africans and need not be defined by arbitrary constructs of race, devoid of any contextual significance.[110] Egyptologist, Frank Yurco shared a similar semtiment, identifying AE civilization as comprising a mix of North and sub-Saharan African elements that typified Egypt ever since, and that such peoples were generally coextensive with other Africans in the nile valley, and should be seen in this context. [111] Finally, professor of anthropology, S.O.Y. Keita referrs to early ancient Egyptians (mainly southerners, noting more variability in the north) as "Saharo-tropical African variants", which subsumes the basic variation that arose independently in Africa; variation that need not be sought elsewhere.[112]"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Race_of_Ancient_Egyptians/Draft

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>>54698834
I like how almost all the source material he is pulling from is 100+ years old.

Anonymous

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>>54704630

I'm not reading your bullshit links to archived threads.

I want you to explain how these primary source depictions of Hyskos and Tut I blowing the fuck out of black nubians is inaccurate as apparently you're a fucking expert.

Anonymous

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>>54704363
>modern academia moreso.

You mean revisionist bullshit to make congoids think they've done something worthwhile ever?

>symbolic purpose that Egyptologists figured out.
OR, you know, they depicted their features and those of their rivals accurate as historical records.

Even if they were black, it shows they hated the fuck out of the color.

Like I've said, stop trying to claim other people's heritages, fucking faggots.

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On Tut:

http://io9.com/why-king-tuts-dna-is-fueling-race-wars-1539130793
pic related is King Tut's family (pictured: his gfather Amenhotep III, his gmother Tiye, his father Akhenaten and Tut)

www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

on iGenea:

>A personal genomics company in Switzerland says they've reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching the Discovery Channel, claiming the results suggest more than half of Western European men are related to the boy king. But researchers who worked to decode Tut's genome in the first place say the claim is "unscientific." Swiss genomics company iGENEA has launched a Tutankhamen DNA project based on what they say are genetic markers that appeared on a computer screen during a Discovery Channel special on the famous pharaoh's genetic lineage.

>But Carsten Pusch, a geneticist at Germany's University of Tubingen who was part of the team that unraveled Tut's DNA from samples taken from his mummy and mummies of his family members, said that iGENEA's claims are "simply impossible." Pusch and his colleagues published part of their results, though not the Y-chromosome DNA, in the Journal of the American Medical Association (JAMA) in 2010. The Y chromosome is the sex chromosome found only in males, and looking at the genes in this chromosome would show Tut's male lineage. Pusch's team used snippets of Y-chromosome DNA to link Tut to his closest relatives, identifying his mom and dad. But they didn't publish the full genetic data that would allow genomics companies like iGENEA to link modern people to the Tutankhamen lineage.

>According to Scholz, that crucial data is what appeared on the Discovery Channel. "Dr. Albert Zink from the EURAC [European Academy of Bolzano, an independent research center] in Bolzano and co-author of the 2010 JAMA publication screened the footage and confirmed that the company acts very unscientific"

http://www.livescience.com/15388-discovery-channel-tutankhamen-dna.html

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Daily reminder the Greeks were also black

Anonymous

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>>54704989
>personal genomics company in Switzerland says they've reconstructed a DNA profile of King Tutankhamen by watching the Discovery Channel,
>reconstructed DNA
>by watching Discovery Channel
>DNA
>From watching TV

Legitimate question, are you fucking retarded?

Anonymous

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I thought Egypt consisted of a diverse array of semites

Anonymous

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>>54705076

Yes, I'm showing why such claims are bullshit.

Shit, I got the sources mixed up. Wait, 5-10 minutes.

Anonymous

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>>54705076

He was responding to the claim Tut is fucking Caucasian by showing pics of his family and also giving this as source:

www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

DNA of some modern Egyptians found a genetic ancestral heritage to East Africa:

>"The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) diversity of 58 individuals from Upper Egypt, more than half (34 individuals) from Gurna, whose population has an ancient cultural history, were studied by sequencing the control-region and screening diagnostic RFLP markers. This sedentary population presented similarities to the Ethiopian population by the L1 and L2 macrohaplogroup frequency (20.6%), by the West Eurasian component (defined by haplogroups H to K and T to X) and particularly by a high frequency (17.6%) of haplogroup M1. We statistically and phylogenetically analysed and compared the Gurna population with other Egyptian, Near East and sub-Saharan Africa populations; AMOVA and Minimum Spanning Network analysis showed that the Gurna population was not isolated from neighbouring populations. Our results suggest that the Gurna population has conserved the trace of an ancestral genetic structure from an ancestral East African population, characterized by a high M1 haplogroup frequency. The current structure of the Egyptian population may be the result of further influence of neighbouring populations on this ancestral population."

(Stevanovitch A, Gilles A, Bouzaid E, et al. (2004) Mitochondrial DNA sequence diversity in a sedentary population from Egypt.Ann Hum Genet. 68(Pt 1):23-39.)

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>>54705174
Fuck you.

I have primary sources showing how these dune coons hated the fuck out of niggers to the point where they drew graphic depictions of them getting blown the fuck out to leave for the ages.

Even if they were vaguely Negroid, they were such self-hating Toms that they wanted the ages to remember them as anything but black.

Anonymous

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Recent DNA studies of the Sudan show genetic unity and linkage between the Sudanic, Horn, Egyptian, Nubian and other Nilotic peoples, confirming earlier skeletal/cranial studies and historical data. (Yurco (1989, 1996), Keita (1993,2004, 2005) Lovell (1999), Zakrewski (2003, 2007) et. al). Of note is that DNA data shows that some peoples linked to one of the oldest Egyptian populations, the original Copts, have a significant frequency of the B-M60 marker, indicating early colonization of Egypt by Nilotics in the state formation period.

>"Haplogroup E-M78, however, is more widely distributed and is thought to have an origin in eastern African. More recently, this haplogroup has been carefully dissected and was found to depict several well-established subclades with defined geographical clustering (Cruciani et al., 2006, 2007). Although this haplogroup is common to most Sudanese populations, it has exceptionally high frequency among populations like those of western Sudan (particularly Darfur) and the Beja in eastern Sudan... Although the PC plot places the Beja and Amhara from Ethiopia in one sub-cluster based on shared frequencies of the haplogroup J1, the distribution of M78 subclades (Table 2) indicates that the Beja are perhaps related as well to the Oromo on the basis of the considerable frequencies of E-V32 among Oromo in comparison to Amhara (Cruciani et al., 2007)...

>These findings affirm the historical contact between Ethiopia and eastern Sudan (1998), and the fact that these populations speak languages of the Afroasiatic family tree reinforces the strong correlation between linguistic and genetic diversity (Cavalli-Sforza, 1997).”

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:01:46 No.54705331 Report Delete

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DNA of some modern Egyptians found a genetic ancestral heritage to East Africa:

>"The mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) diversity of 58 individuals from Upper Egypt, more than half (34 individuals) from Gurna, whose population has an ancient cultural history, were studied by sequencing the control-region and screening diagnostic RFLP markers. This sedentary population presented similarities to the Ethiopian population by the L1 and L2 macrohaplogroup frequency (20.6%), by the West Eurasian component (defined by haplogroups H to K and T to X) and particularly by a high frequency (17.6%) of haplogroup M1. We statistically and phylogenetically analysed and compared the Gurna population with other Egyptian, Near East and sub-Saharan Africa populations; AMOVA and Minimum Spanning Network analysis showed that the Gurna population was not isolated from neighbouring populations. Our results suggest that the Gurna population has conserved the trace of an ancestral genetic structure from an ancestral East African population, characterized by a high M1 haplogroup frequency. The current structure of the Egyptian population may be the result of further influence of neighbouring populations on this ancestral population."

(Stevanovitch A, Gilles A, Bouzaid E, et al. (2004) Mitochondrial DNA sequence diversity in a sedentary population from Egypt.Ann Hum Genet. 68(Pt 1):23-39.)

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:02:33 No.54705365 Report Delete

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Nubians were ethnically the closest people to the Egyptians. Conflict between the two were typical clashes between kingdoms without the simplistic "racial" models drawn by some 20th century writers.

>"The ancient Egyptians referred to a region, located south of the third cataract the Nile River, in which Nubians dwelt as Kush.. Within such context, this phrase is not a racial slur. Throughout the history of ancient Egypt there were numerous, well documented instances that celebrate Nubian-Egyptian marriages. A study of these documents, particularly those dated to both the Egyptian New Kingdom (after 1550 B.C.E.) and to Dynasty XXV and early Dynasty XXVI (about 720-640 BCE), reveals that neither spouse nor any of the children of such unions suffered discrimination at the hands of the ancient Egyptians. Indeed such marriages were never an obstacle to social, economic, or political status, provided the individuals concerned conformed to generally accepted Egyptian social standards. Furthermore, at times, certain Nubian practices, such as tattooing for women, and the unisex fashion of wearing earrings, were wholeheartedly embraced by the ancient Egyptians."

(Bianchi, 2004: p. 4)

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Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:02:39 No.54705368 Report Delete

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>>54705306
>to the point where they drew graphic depictions of them getting blown the fuck out to leave for the ages.
that's just recording history, m8

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:04:24 No.54705423 Report Delete

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:05:02 No.54705443 Report Delete

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>>54705298
>(Stevanovitch A, Gilles A, Bouzaid E, et al. (2004) Mitochondrial DNA sequence diversity in a sedentary population from Egypt.
>The 58 subjects for this study were volunteers and maternally unrelated.

You are aware these are living people and not Ancient Egyptians?

A lot of shit changes in thousands of years.

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:05:40 No.54705462 Report Delete

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>''With the passage of time, each wave of new immigrants has assimilated into the local mix of peoples , making modern Egypt a combination of Libyans, Nubians, Syrians, Persians, Macedonians, Romans, Arabs, Turks, Circassians, Greeks, Italians, and Armenians, along with the descendants of the people of ancient Egypt.''

- From A Brief History of Egypt by Jr. Goldschmidt Arthur (2007)

>''The Late Period is often singled out as the time when mass immigration into Egypt altered the character of the country''

from A Companion to Ancient History Edited by Andrew Erskine (2009)

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:06:54 No.54705503 Report Delete

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>>54705443

Moron, he already discussed this. If you check the goddamn archive, I wouldn't have to post his shit again and research it all over.

1st Dynasty = EGYPTIAN

OLD KINGDOM:
3rd to 6th = EGYPTIAN

FIRST INTERMEDIATE PERIOD:
7th to 11th = EGYPTIAN

MIDDLE KINGDOM:
late 11th to 12th = EGYPTIAN

SECOND INTERMEDIATE KINGDOM:
13th = EGYPTIAN
14th = Canaanite rulers
15th = Hyksos rulers
16th and 17th = EGYPTIAN

NEW KINGDOM:
18th to 20th = EGYPTIAN

THIRD INTERMEDIATE PERIOD:
21st = EGYPTIAN
22nd and 23rd = Libyan rulers
24th = EGYPTIAN

LATE PERIOD:
25th = Nubian rulers
26th = EGYPTIAN
27th = Persian rulers
28th to 30th = EGYPTIAN
31st = Persian rulers

Argead Dynasty = Macedonian rulers
Ptolemaic Dynasty = Macedonian rulers

Egypt (province) = Roman rulers
Sasanian Egypt = Persian rulers

Islamic Egypt = Arab rulers
Fatimid Egypt = Arab rulers
Ayyubid Egypt = Arab rulers
Mamluk Egypt = Mamluk rulers

Ottoman Egypt = Ottoman rulers
Egypt (French occupation) = French rulers
Egypt (Muhammad Ali Pasha) = Ottoman rulers
Egypt (Khedivate) = Ottoman rulers

Egypt (British occupation) = British rulers
Kingdom of Egypt = Ottoman rulers
Arab Republic of Egypt = Arab rulers

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:07:53 No.54705538 Report Delete

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>>54705321
>>54705423

Do you know how much population genetics changes in 1000s of years? These sources are irrelevant and demonstrate your lack of understanding about fundamental principles of migration and subsuming and/or swapping of peoples.

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:08:52 No.54705579 Report Delete

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For example, he gave a lot of images with statistical diagrams in that archive. I don't want to save each image and post it for your peabrain. You can look at the images and check the peer-reviewed sources.

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:09:28 No.54705595 Report Delete

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>>54705503
Hey fucktard, this paper proves nothing about the genetic material of ancient Egyptians (which you seem to thing it does) and you in turn repost a list of dynasties instead of explaining why these findings are worth shitposting.

You're black, aren't you?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:09:50 No.54705612 Report Delete

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>>54705538

You suck at lateral thinking, you goddamn imbecile. If you read his sources, he's giving evidence for how Eastern Africans who migrated from Egypt before late period closely resemble Ancient Egyptians before they mixed for a many years.

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Anonymous ID:iZ1rSjuT Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:11:03 No.54705666 Report Delete

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>>54705503
>EGYPT WAS WHITE!!!!!

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:11:19 No.54705680 Report Delete

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>>54705579
Why is this comparing American whites and blacks? Entirely irrelevant.

It should be comparing Caucasoids of brown hue such as mid-Easterners and African blacks.

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:12:00 No.54705708 Report Delete

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>"There is now a sufficient body of evidence from modern studies of skeletal remains to indicate that the ancient Egyptians, especially southern Egyptians, exhibited physical characteristics that are within the range of variation for ancient and modern indigenous peoples of the Sahara and tropical Africa.. In general, the inhabitants of Upper Egypt and Nubia had the greatest biological affinity to people of the Sahara and more southerly areas.”

(Nancy C. Lovell, " Egyptians, physical anthropology of," in Encyclopedia of the Archaeology of Ancient Egypt, ed. Kathryn A. Bard and Steven Blake Shubert, ( London and New York: Routledge, 1999) pp 328-332)

>"Certainly there was some foreign admixture [in Egypt], but basically a homogeneous African population had lived in the Nile Valley from ancient to modern times... [the] Badarian people, who developed the earliest Predynastic Egyptian culture, already exhibited the mix of North African and Sub-Saharan physical traits that have typified Egyptians ever since (Hassan 1985; Yurco 1989; Trigger 1978; Keita 1990.. et al.,)... The peoples of Egypt, the Sudan, and much of East African Ethiopia and Somalia are now generally regarded as a Nilotic continuity, with widely ranging physical features (complexions light to dark, various hair and craniofacial types) but with powerful common cultural traits, including cattle pastoralist traditions.."

(Frank Yurco, "An Egyptological Review," 1996 -in Mary R. Lefkowitz and Guy MacLean Rogers, Black Athena Revisited, 1996, The University of North Carolina Press, p. 62-100)

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:13:19 No.54705754 Report Delete

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Gene flow into the Nubian area during the Neolithic was not from reputed "wandering Caucasoids" but from tropical, Sub-Saharan types:

>"Prior to the Neolithic, populations of the Nile Valley in Nubia are very robust, and, because of a gap in the fossil record, it is difficult to connect them to later populations. Some have postulated a local evolution, due to diet change, while others postulated migrations, especially from the Sahara area. But between 5000 and 1000 BC, many cemeteries have supplied a large amount of skeletons, and the anatomical characters of Nubian populations are easier to follow-up. Twenty-seven archaeological samples (4 at 5000 BC, 5 at 4000 BC, 10 at 3000 BC, 3 at 2000 BC, 5 at 1000 BC), and 10 craniofacial measurements, have been considered.

>While cerebral skull is fairly stable, facial skull displays several regular modifications, and specially a reduction of facial and nasal heights, a broadening of the nose, and an increase of prognathism, while bizygomatic breadth is unchanged. These features illustrate a trend towards a growing resemblance with populations of Sub-Saharan Africa living in wet environments. However, paleoclimatological studies show that Nubia experienced an increasing aridification during that period. It is then unlikely that such a morphological change could be related to any local adaptive evolution to environment. Random drift is also unlikely, because the anatomical trend is relatively uniform during these millennia. It then seems more plausible that these changes correspond to the increasing presence of Southern populations migrating northward."

-- Froment, A. (2002) Morphological micro-evolution of Nubian Populations from, A-Group to Christian Epochs: gene flow, not local adaptation. Am J Phys Anthropol [Suppl] 34:72.

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:13:21 No.54705756 Report Delete

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>>54705612
>lateral thinking
>also known as bullshit for when you don't have direct evidence
>read muh sources, I knows dey right but Is can't esplain dem boss

Goddamnit Jamal your idiocy is painful.

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:11 No.54705826 Report Delete

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Hyskos came during the late period, I think.

Here's Razio's post:

Let's first look here:

>"The Twenty-Sixth Dynasty, also known as the Saite Period, lasted from 672 BC to 525 BC. During this time many Jews came to Egypt, fleeing the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem by the Babylonians (586 BCE). Jeremiah and other Jewish refugees arrived in Lower Egypt, notably in Migdol, Tahpanhes and Memphis. Some refugees also settled at Elephantine and other settlements in Upper Egypt (see Jeremiah Chapters 43 and 44)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Period_of_ancient_Egypt

Now let's go back a thousand or so years to the Second Intermediate Period:

>"It is best known as the period when the Hyksos made their appearance in Egypt and whose reign comprised the Fifteenth dynasty."

Yet even some two hundred years before the Hyksos invasion, large numbers of Levant peoples were already settled:

>"Important Canaanite populations first appeared in Egypt towards the end of the 12th Dynasty c. 1800 BC, and either around that time or c. 1720 BC, formed an independent realm in the eastern Nile Delta. The Canaanite rulers of the Delta, regrouped in the 14th Dynasty, coexisted with the Egyptian 13th Dynasty, based in Itjtawy. The power of the 13th and 14th dynasties progressively waned, perhaps due to famine and plague, and c. 1650 BC both were invaded by the Hyksos, who formed their own dynasty, the 15th Dynasty."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

Also between the settlement of large numbers of Jews and the Hyksos, were the Sea Peoples.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aUegLTjF Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:27 No.54705840 Report Delete

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>>54705756
keep getting blacked

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:28 No.54705841 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54705929

>Egypt grew from around the Nile river
>Nilotics are an ethnicity native to the Nile
>???

Yeah they were black (And then arab, some white even as immigration happened), but they weren't West Africans. American Dindus have no roots in Egypt.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:52 No.54705851 Report Delete

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>>54705708
>>54705754

>skeletal remains

Sorry, modern archaeology says phrenology is a bogus science and you can't discern race from skeletons. ;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:16:44 No.54705882 Report Delete

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On Hyskos:

Let's first look here:

>"The Twenty-Sixth Dynasty, also known as the Saite Period, lasted from 672 BC to 525 BC. During this time many Jews came to Egypt, fleeing the destruction of the First Temple in Jerusalem by the Babylonians (586 BCE). Jeremiah and other Jewish refugees arrived in Lower Egypt, notably in Migdol, Tahpanhes and Memphis. Some refugees also settled at Elephantine and other settlements in Upper Egypt (see Jeremiah Chapters 43 and 44)."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Late_Period_of_ancient_Egypt

Now let's go back a thousand or so years to the Second Intermediate Period:

>"It is best known as the period when the Hyksos made their appearance in Egypt and whose reign comprised the Fifteenth dynasty."

Yet even some two hundred years before the Hyksos invasion, large numbers of Levant peoples were already settled:

>"Important Canaanite populations first appeared in Egypt towards the end of the 12th Dynasty c. 1800 BC, and either around that time or c. 1720 BC, formed an independent realm in the eastern Nile Delta. The Canaanite rulers of the Delta, regrouped in the 14th Dynasty, coexisted with the Egyptian 13th Dynasty, based in Itjtawy. The power of the 13th and 14th dynasties progressively waned, perhaps due to famine and plague, and c. 1650 BC both were invaded by the Hyksos, who formed their own dynasty, the 15th Dynasty."

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyksos

Also between the settlement of large numbers of Jews and the Hyksos, were the Sea Peoples.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:17:29 No.54705905 Report Delete

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>>54705840
>keep getting blacked
>copy pasta you monkeys can't even articulate in your own words

OK fam

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:17:36 No.54705909 Report Delete

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>>54705851

Phrenology is not about discerning race from skeletons but about cognitive processes, fucking idiot. You don't even know what phrenology is.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:18:07 No.54705929 Report Delete

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>>54705841

Yes, I agree with you. This is all Razio is saying

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:19:14 No.54705969 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706064

>>54705905

I'm not even Egytptian, lol...

I never cared about Egypt until Razio's posts.

I'm just sick and tired of Westerners trying to steal other people's heritages.

I'm actually White and Mediterranean looking.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:19:37 No.54705988 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706083

>>54705909
Phrenology is entirely related to the idea that you can discern race from skeletal remains given the intracranial volume of the skull, you dumb chimp.

Modern science claims you can't discern race from skeletal remains because das rayciss, so those sources are trashed.

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:20:36 No.54706028 Report Delete

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>'It is an extremely difficult task to attempt to describe the Nubians during the course of Egypt's New Kingdom, because their presence appears to have virtually evaporated from the archaeological record.. The result has been described as a wholesale Nubian assimilation into Egyptian society. This assimilation was so complete that it masked all Nubian ethnic identities insofar as archaeological remains are concerned beneath the impenetrable veneer of Egypt's material; culture.. In the Kushite Period, when Nubians ruled as Pharaohs in their own right, the material culture of Dynasty XXV (about 750-655 B.C.E.) was decidedly Egyptian in character.. Nubia's entire landscape up to the region of the Third Cataract was dotted with temples indistinguishable in style and decoration from contemporary temples erected in Egypt. The same observation obtains for the smaller number of typically Egyptian tombs in which these elite Nubian princes were interred.

(Bianchi, 2004, p. 99-100)
- Robert Bianchi ( 2004). Daily Life of the Nubians. Greenwood Publishing Group

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Anonymous ID:sSpgMNyc Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:21:22 No.54706064 Report Delete

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>>54705969
Razio pls, this is embarrassing.

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:21:35 No.54706075 Report Delete

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>>54706028
Quit posting pasta and refute my earlier claims, you can't win an argument just by shitposting loudly.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:21:42 No.54706083 Report Delete

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>>54705988

There is evidence that shows skeletally Chinese and other races are easily seperated based off skeletal structure.

Honestly, man, do you really think Egyptians were Caucasian? Please go kill yourself then.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:22:42 No.54706113 Report Delete

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>>54706075

I'm persuaded by Razio. I read his shit, I agree with him.

I don't agree with you.

Now shut the fuck up.

What are you going to tell me next? Ancient Persians were blond and blue eyed?

You Nordicists are fucking idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:22:50 No.54706117 Report Delete

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>>54706028
This pasta just says that the Nubians copied the Egyptians. Did you even read what you posted?

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:24:27 No.54706183 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706194

One of King Tut's sisters.

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:24:33 No.54706184 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706401

>>54706113
I'm not even a Nordicist you dumb nigger, I contend that they were Caucasoids closer in relation to Arabs than Congoids.

>>54706083
Google Race and Phrenology or if you can discern race from a skeleton.

Modern SJW science has declared you can't decide race from skeletons.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:24:50 No.54706194 Report Delete

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>>54706183
ayy lmao

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:26:04 No.54706229 Report Delete

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>>54706117

Moron, because you won't even read the archives I gave you, I literally have to copy paste everything he said with the fucking sources.

I can't do this.

I already spent enough time reading it and I don't give a shit anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:nHgSe/mV Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:26:08 No.54706233 Report Delete

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>>54706113
>Nordicist
And now it's absolutely clear you're just Razio behind a proxy.

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Anonymous ID:aUegLTjF Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:27:12 No.54706265 Report Delete

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tiye

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:28:01 No.54706292 Report Delete

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>>54706229
Good to see that once you ran out of copy pasta you clearly don't know anything about what you're talking about, feel free to tap out and take an L Tyrone.

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:30:54 No.54706401 Report Delete

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>>54706184
The Ancient Egyptian civilization was indigenous with continuity among its peoples, not an influx of Middle Easterners, Europeans or other outsiders like Arabs until relatively late in history.

>"overall population continuity over the Predynastic and early Dynastic, and high levels of genetic heterogeneity, thereby suggesting that state formation occurred as a mainly indigenous process."

(Zakrzewski, S.R. (2007). "Population continuity or population change: Formation of the ancient Egyptian state". American Journal of Physical Anthropology 132 (4): 501-509)

>"the peoples of the steppes and grasslands to the immediate south of Egypt domesticated cattle, as early as 9000 to 8000 B.C. They included peoples from the Afroasiastic linguistic group and the second major African language family, Nilo-Saharan (Wendorf, Schild, Close 1984; Wendorf, et al. 1982). Thus the earliest domestic cattle may have come to Egypt from these southern neighbors, circa 6000 B.C., and not from the Middle East.[148] Pottery, another significant advance in material cultural may also have followed this pattern, initiatied "as early as 9000 B.C. by the Nilo-Saharans and Afrasians who lived to the south of Egypt. Soon thereafter, pots spread to Egyptian sites, almost 2,000 years before the first pottery was made in the Middle East."

(Christopher Ehret, "Ancient Egyptian as an African Language, Egypt as an African Culture," in Egypt in Africa, Theodore Celenko (ed), Indiana University Press, 1996, pp. 25-27)

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:32:00 No.54706447 Report Delete

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>>54706233

I'm not.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:32:24 No.54706463 Report Delete

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>>54706401
>that lower left pic

Jeez, how short were ancient Egyptians?

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:33:23 No.54706508 Report Delete

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The Egyptian dynastic civilization is based from the 'darker' south (Upper Egypt) not the north (Lower Egypt).

QUOTE(s):
>"While not attempting to underestimate the contribution that Deltaic political and religious institutions made to those of a united Egypt, many Egyptologists now discount the idea that a united prehistoric kingdom of Lower Egypt ever existed."

>"While communities such as Ma'adi appear to have played an important role in entrepots through which goods and ideas form south-west Asia filtered into the Nile Valley in later prehistoric times, the main cultural and political tradition that gave rise to the cultural pattern of Early Dynastic Egypt is to be found not in the north but in the south.":
The Cambridge History of Africa: Volume 1, From the Earliest Times to c. 500 BC, (Cambridge University Press: 1982), Edited by J. Desmond Clark pp. 500-509

>"..the early cultures of Merimde, the Fayum, Badari Naqada I and II are essentially African and early African social customs and religious beliefs were the root and foundation of the ancient Egyptian way of life." (Source: Shaw, Thurston (1976) Changes in African Archaeology in the Last Forty Years in African Studies since 1945. p. 156-68. London.)

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:34:40 No.54706566 Report Delete

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>>54706401
>overall population continuity over the Predynastic and early Dynastic, and high levels of genetic heterogeneity, thereby suggesting that state formation occurred as a mainly indigenous process.

This implies that they did not mix with Kushite Nubians as you earlier implied, then.

>"the peoples of the steppes and grasslands to the immediate south of Egypt domesticated cattle, as early as 9000 to 8000 B.C. They included peoples from the Afroasiastic linguistic group and the second major African language family, Nilo-Saharan (Wendorf, Schild, Close 1984; Wendorf, et al. 1982). Thus the earliest domestic cattle may have come to Egypt from these southern neighbors, circa 6000 B.C., and not from the Middle East.[148] Pottery, another significant advance in material cultural may also have followed this pattern, initiatied "as early as 9000 B.C. by the Nilo-Saharans and Afrasians who lived to the south of Egypt. Soon thereafter, pots spread to Egyptian sites, almost 2,000 years before the first pottery was made in the Middle East."

This is about animal husbandry and pottery formation, not racial composition.

Do you honestly think I'm going to keep making counterpoints to pasta you don't even understand?

Is there some sort of "We Was Kings" copy pasta database where nigs make a collection of anything that remotely mentions Egypt as proof Pharaohs were jet black?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:34:41 No.54706568 Report Delete

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Many people spanning across Africa (aside from the listed) today still practice variations of the ancient Egyptian culture. Hairstyles, religious symbols, traditions and many other cultural aspects are a strong indicator of this reality. It could be said that the Ancient Egyptians did not in fact disappear, they instead simply moved like many other peoples.

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:35:40 No.54706607 Report Delete

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Conservative mainstream Oxford Encyclopedia of Ancient Egypt shows
ancient Egypt derived from an African cultural sub-stratum:

>"The evidence also points to linkages to other northeast African peoples, not coincidentally approximating the modern range of languages closely related to Egyptian in the Afro-Asiatic group (formerly called Hamito-Semetic). These linguistic similarities place ancient Egyptian in a close relationship with languages spoken today as far west as Chad, and as far south as Somalia. Archaeological evidence also strongly supports an African origin. A widespread northeastern African cultural assemblage, including distinctive multiple barbed harpoons and pottery decorated with dotted wavy line patterns, appears during the early Neolithic (also known as the Aqualithic, a reference to the mild climate of the Sahara at this time).

>Saharan and Sudanese rock art from this time resembles early Egyptian iconography. Strong connections between Nubian (Sudanese) and Egyptian material culture continue in later Neolithic Badarian culture of Upper Egypt. Similarities include black-topped wares, vessels with characteristic ripple-burnished surfaces, a special tulip-shaped vessel with incised and white-filled decoration, palettes, and harpoons...

>Other ancient Egyptian practices show strong similarities to modern African cultures including divine kingship, the use of headrests, body art, circumcision, and male coming-of-age rituals, all suggesting an African substratum or foundation for Egyptian civilization.."

Source: The Oxford encyclopedia of ancient Egypt,
2001. Volume 3. Oxford University Press. p.28

>>54168628
East Africans, Nilotic people and Africans from the Great African Lakes region are black Africans, deal with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:susS0s/z Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:35:54 No.54706616 Report Delete

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>>54697695
>going to r9k

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Anonymous ID:XbWJABvu Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:36:28 No.54706635 Report Delete

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Why's it so hard to accept that ancient egyptians were probably mostly black? They got cucked by every other civilization anyway.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:37:04 No.54706656 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709065

>>54706508
>We was kings in the south near them otha niggas ... but not near the black Sphynx we love ta draw about?

Do you even think before you use this as evidence? The Nile Delta was clearly the focal point of the empire, DeKendrix.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:37:30 No.54706672 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706846

This is a very important image Razio gave, the most important one.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:39:25 No.54706731 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706846

point is black =/= negroid

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:40:19 No.54706762 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54706607
>These linguistic similarities place ancient Egyptian in a close relationship with languages spoken today as far west as Chad, and as far south as Somalia.
>Saharan and Sudanese rock art from this time resembles early Egyptian iconography.
>>Other ancient Egyptian practices show strong similarities to modern African cultures including divine kingship,

>Working backward

Or, Egyptian cultural influence lead to the development of vernacular similar to theirs by lesser tribes.

That'd be like if I said the English were Romans because they borrowed Latin words.

To be fair refuting all this pasta you don't understand is good practice for the Canadian tripfag, though I'm certain he is also copypasting from a website of one nig far enough right on the IQ bellcurve to look up scholarly journals.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:40:58 No.54706788 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706944

This is a very good study to read. Ancient Egyptians were East African black non-negroids:

http://www.dnatribes.com/dnatribes-digest-2012-01-01.pdf

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:42:06 No.54706831 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706944

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:42:38 No.54706846 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54706966

>>54706672
>no source

Trashed

>>54706731
Point is Congoids are not the same as modern or ancient north Africans.

Point is you're a dumb fucking coon, don't lie that you're white next time and own it instead.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:42:53 No.54706857 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707016

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:44:52 No.54706944 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707053

>>54706788
>DNAtribes.com
>A study

Trashed.

>>54706831
>Using skeletal remains to discern race

Trashed by modern "science" whether or not I agree with it

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:45:31 No.54706966 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707074

>>54706846

Google "egyptian skin tones symbolic" or similar things and you'd see it's common knowledge, you knuckle-head piece of shit. I just want to punch you in the face because you won't shut the fuck up because I really don't enjoy this shit. Read the fucking Archives or go shoot yourself, I'm serious.
>Point is you're a dumb fucking coon, don't lie that you're white next time and own it instead.

I look Mediterranean and White, I'm not lying.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:46:54 No.54707016 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54706857
>Using an image of Ramses III looking vaguely Congoid as justification he was black.

I'm sorry, I thought you decided you couldn't use the colors they painted themselves as to be representative of their race?

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:7ceREfgu Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:47:27 No.54707031 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54699239
ALESSANDRO VIENI FUORI BRUTTO NEGRACCIO

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:47:54 No.54707053 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707111

>>54706944
>Trashed by modern "science" whether or not I agree with it

Here you go:
>"Compared to organ transplants, bone marrow donations need to be even more genetically similar to their recipients. Though there are exceptions, the vast majority of successful matches take place between donors and patients of the same ethnic background. "

http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:48:28 No.54707074 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707362 >>54707446

>>54706966
Skin and time stamp to be honest family.

I'll cede this "debate" of refuting every copypasta you don't understand if you can prove to me right now you're not a "We Was Kings" negro.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:49:25 No.54707111 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54707053
>Bone marrow
>A skeleton

I'll ask again, are you legitimately fucking retarded? Go google what bone marrow is.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:2Euys2bV Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:49:51 No.54707126 Report Delete

Quoted By:

As an injun, this thread is a clusterfuck. Whites and blacks are fucking crazy. At least we have our history straightened out.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:54:00 No.54707263 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54705365
>>54705331

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:54:31 No.54707275 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707301 >>54707346

>>54705368

>that's just recording history, m8

yeah he's an idiot

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:55:13 No.54707301 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54707275
you don't need to be mad yourself m8

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:56:35 No.54707346 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707680

>>54707275
He was agreeing in a facetious fashion with me you dumb nog.

Here is my artifact so I can search the archive for when the Canadian tripfag tries posting these copypastas next:
WEWASKINGSMUFUGGABIXNOOD

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:56:55 No.54707362 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707423

>>54707074

Sure, I'm a White looking Persian. I look like Hekmati, the Iranian/Persian Marine who is being held captive in Iran.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:58:47 No.54707423 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54707362
Cool, write /pol/ and 1 AM with a shot of your hand for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:59:43 No.54707446 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707541

>>54707074
>I'll cede this "debate" of refutin

Kneel before me and grovel at my feet as is natural. I shall take the sole of my feet and make you eat dirt. Wasting my precious time with your buffoonery.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:01:25 No.54707500 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707595

Also before you go dumping more pastas while I take a break go and look back and respond to the previous refutations, particularly the one involving the Nile delta.

You don't "debate" by spamming as much shit that you don't understand at once as you can, you know.

Well, actually, these days..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmO-ziHU_D8

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:02:56 No.54707541 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707651

>>54707446
>post copypastas you don't understand
>get blown the fuck out post by post
>I was Kings n Shit

Confirmed nog

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:04:40 No.54707595 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707944

>>54707500

Why don't you read the two archives instead fully, fucking in-bred?

And yeah, I'm not lying about my racial background.

Truth is, none of this really matters. Shunyata/Emptiness is our true nature.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:FHUMNwAy Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:06:19 No.54707647 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707696

>>54704015
Most african americans are western africans though because thats where the slaves were caught and shipped.

Anyways this shit is sad either way. I mean my ancestors build houses more complex than the african mud huts of today over 7000 years ago. And they didnt even have metal tools.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:06:24 No.54707651 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707944

>>54707541

I think you just have issue piecing together the evidence. If you'd just read the archives, you'd save me a lot of time.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:rZQuIWZF Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:07:10 No.54707671 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707747

>>54706113
Ancient Persia was white

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:07:36 No.54707680 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708100

>>54707346
No, not agreeing in the "They hated those nig-nogs so much they made a chiseled painting!" sense. It's "A big battle happened and they recorded it like any civilization would".

Keep in mind that these "blown out niggers" ended up conquering Egypt itself, before in turn being conquered by proto-Ethiopia.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:07:57 No.54707696 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54707647

I know most African Americans are Western Africans.

Why don't people read the fucking archives? I just linked two archives of Razio's research and people go apewire.

Razio argues this stuff better than me. I honestly don't have that much interest in it.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:2R2WlxSK Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:08:38 No.54707718 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54697695
Yea, one day he popped up on /r9k/ with his Egyptian stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:4tEW0Kva Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:09:01 No.54707731 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707804 >>54707937

>>54699246
They're calling Assyrians a black civilization

Holy fuck talk about cultural appropriation. Assyrians are fucking Caucasoid

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:09:19 No.54707747 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708266

>>54707671

I'm not sure. There's a lot of conflicting stuff there.

I think it's harder to study than Ancient Egyptians, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:11:16 No.54707804 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54707731

Who cares. They were the ISIS equivalent of Middle Easterners back in the day.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Kzh9wWvU Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:13:34 No.54707868 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54707979

>>54699568

Your whole argument rests on the idea that Nubians were black; without that bulwark, your argument falls to shit Evidence points to the fact that they were not Negroids.

You are wrong. Get over it.

Sources:

Phillipson 2005
Van Gerven et al. 1973
Greene et al. 1967
Larsen 1997

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:v+ns8ZVq Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:15:34 No.54707937 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54707731
We black nao

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:15:48 No.54707944 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708057

>>54707651
>>54707595
>MUH ARCHIVE EXPLAINS ALL THESE THINGS I CLAIM TO KNOW ABOUT BUT CAN'T ARTICULATE IN MY OWN WORDS

Fuck off, retard. This is you and me. You claim to have the evidence, prove it in your own words.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:16:37 No.54707979 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708037 >>54708376

>>54707868

He never said Nubians were negroids. He even said black =/= negroid.

Check out the two archives I gave:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/54147947/

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/54296562/

Why do I even care about this shit?

>starts getting existential

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:18:09 No.54708037 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708144

>>54707979
>starts getting retarded

I don't know why you care about this shit but you posted a dickload of copypasta claiming to be an enlightened mind and yet when I refute each post despite your rapid spamming you curl up in a ball and think about the cosmos like a bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Kzh9wWvU Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:18:27 No.54708050 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708170

>>54706566

Anon, can you please just make one huge thread where you debunk all of Razio's bullshit, Afrocentric info graphics and sources?

We can archive it and every time Razio and his shills come up again, we can just link it.

It would save us all a whole bunch of effort in the long run.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:rxUc/B6m Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:18:30 No.54708052 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708178

The argument is that that they were East Africans. He then exaggerates the caucasoid like appearance of East Africans to explain why the Ancient Egyptians don't look black in statue form.

Ancient Egyptians depicted black Africans, and also lighter brown Africans (i.e. EAST AFRICANS) as being different from their red selves.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:18:38 No.54708057 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708170

>>54707944

You said you'd back off if I wasn't a "nig-nog", and I'm proving to you I'm fucking Mediterranean looking light-skinned person.

Seriously, back off, because it's 3 AM here, I don't like repeating someone's research especially if it's something I don't specialize in, and blah blah.

Besides, you didn't even digest most of the evidence he gave.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:19:38 No.54708100 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708189

>>54707680
All empires crumble eventually, I'm not arguing that the Vandals didn't end up destroying Rome either.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:20:46 No.54708144 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708191

>>54708037

You didn't refute each point.

You ignored most of it actually and misinterpreted a lot of simple stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:21:38 No.54708170 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708057
>didn't digest
>refuted every single copy pasta you probably haven't even bothered to comprehend and posted in rapid succession in real time

OK fam

>>54708050
I'll take another look later on for even more concrete blowing the fuck out and the next time he pops up we'll settle it there.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:rxUc/B6m Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:21:52 No.54708178 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708052

These are the people who he believes are the closest descendants of the ancient Egyptians who left caucasoid looking statues.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nilotic_peoples

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:22:11 No.54708189 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708238

>>54708100

Be a man of your word and back off because I'm not a nig nog, bonehead.

Read Razios archives. Both of them, slowly. After you finish both archives, post here and say you agree or disagree, and I'll admit defeat.

Just read both archives slowly.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:22:13 No.54708191 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708144
Top fucking kek, go back and pick each point you think I got wrong and I'll set you straight bitch.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:23:53 No.54708238 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708298

>>54708189
>READ THE ARCHIVES THEY EXPLAIN EVERYTHING I CLAIMED TO BE CONVINCED OF BUT CAN'T EXPLAIN BEYOND COPYPASTING

You're an honorary nig at this point honestly to be spewing this Afrocentric bullshit without critical analysis.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:24:16 No.54708243 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708317

Here are the two archives, again, if you read both and give some constructive criticisms, I'll admit defeat:

https://archive.4plebs.org/pol/thread/54147947/

http://boards.4chan.org/pol/thread/54296562/

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:rZQuIWZF Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:24:57 No.54708266 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708401

>>54707747

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:26:03 No.54708298 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708402

>>54708238

I'm not a nig, and i gave you sufficient reason to think I'm not. Since you said if I'm not a literal nig, you'd admit defeat, is it okay if you shut the fuck up or read the archives? I think I explained enough.

Honestly, this isn't my speciality. It doesn't matter to me what Ancient Egyptians were. If anything, like I've said, I care more about what Ancient Persians were, but that's harder to figure out.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:26:44 No.54708317 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708243
MUH ARCHIVES READ EM ALL IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN THE THINGS I DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND AGAIN I'LL STOP SHITPOSTING.

Honestly you just copied those threads here, read the fucking thread if you don't understand what is retarded about them.

Really just go to bed fam, its an anonymous cartoon board, you can merrily shitpost tomorrow and nobody will know about this whooping.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:Kzh9wWvU Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:28:05 No.54708376 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54707979

>He never said Nubians were negroids. He even said black =/= negroid.

He basically did. He linked me to study to try to refute the citations I just gave you. The study examined the denials of Egyptian royalty and supposedly found that they bear similarities to Negroids.

Why would Razio point me to a study that supposedly proves Egyptians are Negroid, when his argument is that they aren't Negroid?

I'll tell you why. It's because Razio is a contradicting fuckass who aims to rewrite history. He can't even keep his own arguments together, and you, as his little side-nigger, are falling for his lies.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:28:43 No.54708401 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708266

Kurgan Hypothesis has some issues, actually...

I can give you a debate I had with someone regarding what Ancient Persians were initially racially. I lost though. You can check the Razio archives because I talked about it in one of them.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rxUc/B6m Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:28:44 No.54708402 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708488

>>54708298
No, it isn't since we know what and who Indo-Europeans were. They were white. Those that spread into Europe remained white, those that spread into central Asia were white, then mixed to what they are today. The only question would be how quickly did they mix. Were they only white at the start of the empire or were they white for most of its existence?

Egypt is a lot more speculative.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:30:14 No.54708447 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Caucasoid East Africans weren't so prevalent in Egypt as they were in Axum and Kush.

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:31:17 No.54708488 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708402

No, it's actually the other way around. They originally brown and then became White after Shah Abbas I brought in a lot of Armenians, Georgians, and etc. for political purposes.

Persians depicted themselves in Parthian and Achaeminid artwork.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:31:20 No.54708493 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Also re: Ramses III being an E1b1 African.
>His long reign saw the decline of Egyptian power, linked to a series of invasions and economic problems.

Kek, sounds about right

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:35:04 No.54708613 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709071

Parthian depiction.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:39:55 No.54708766 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54708901 >>54708907

I trust Razio more! He is my ravioli, my Italian loveboy!

You Nords are just disgusting savages!

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:I9ShJslt Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:43:00 No.54708864 Report Delete

Quoted By:

We wuz Emperorz and shit

Anonymous

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Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:44:24 No.54708901 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708766

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:44:28 No.54708907 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54708766
wat

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:uXP8xknJ Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:47:11 No.54708982 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Das rite das rite das rite das rite das rite das rite das rite das rite

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:w05HQIUb Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:47:56 No.54709003 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709090

>>54706292
Not him but you are doing a terrible job of arguing. You have zero sources and I'm now convinced egyptians were closer to Nubians in a lot of cases although it seems to be a multi racial society.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:w05HQIUb Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:50:08 No.54709065 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709123

>>54706656
Also getting as mad as you do and using stupid insults like "deKwan" only makes him seem right. Like the other anon said, you should make a new thread because he has a cohesive narrative and you don't.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:oIl95aoD Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:50:20 No.54709071 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709246

>>54708613
Parthians are just skythians after sunbath, they are 100% indo-european

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:50:49 No.54709090 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709216

>>54709003
>Zero sources

Compared to copypastas that talk about pottery and cattle domestication?

Get fucked, dummy.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:52:03 No.54709123 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54709065
>cohesive narrative
>copypasta he doesn't understand and can't explain
>mad that I used nigger memes

Just say I rustled your jimmies instead of pretending that you've become enlightened by a bunch of erroneous citations to shit that doesn't relate to his thesis.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:wGkEJZ+F Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:53:13 No.54709154 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54699256
WUZ

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:55:43 No.54709216 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709294

>>54709090
>Compared to copypastas that talk about pottery and cattle domestication?

that was only one source you parochial idiot. Looking at the genetic sources and the other shit. You didn't even know that Egyptians depicting themselves as yellow was more for symbolic significance. White too...

Honestly, I DO NOT CARE ABOUT ANCIENT EGYPTIANS. Regardless of being genetically close to Arab or modern East Africans, Ancient Egyptians were on average dark skinned. I agree dark skinned =/= negroid, as razio acknowledged. Read the archives, it's too much to give all those diagrams and and sources.

Honestly, I do NOT care.

I'm just interested in what Ancient Persians looked like.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:57:10 No.54709246 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709278

>>54709071

I do want to post my pic to make sure I look like Ancient Persians, but I'm smart enough not to do that.

I have a lot of pride in my heritage.

I look down on Nords moreso than any other peoples btw. I hate nords. The only reason I'm into this Egyptian shit is to make Nords feel bad because they have a shit legacy. Vicious barbarians.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:58:00 No.54709278 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54709246

I should go do more productive stuff.

I only got interested in this stuff recently due to insecurities. It's 4 AM, should go to bed.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:58:30 No.54709294 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709328 >>54709336

>>54709216
I don't think you can be unbiased given he is your ravioli Italian loveboy, friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 03:59:54 No.54709328 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709404

>>54709294

You are my loveboy too. My dad looks like Freddie Mercury fyi.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:aiMPV0yY Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:00:13 No.54709336 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54709294

come here and give me a kiss

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:02:41 No.54709404 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709554 >>54709665

>>54709328
I believe you as you've been this adamant with descriptors, its just that most proponents of the all black Egypt are black Afrocentrists that are more concerned with glomming onto a narrative that assuages their ego rather than actual scholarly discourse.

I'm Germanic and I freely admit we was barbarians n shit for most of our ancient history.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:YtnXrPGG Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:08:28 No.54709554 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>54709690

>>54709404
Well, the entire time the argument has been "they're east african, and west african dindus who live in the states today are also wrong about 'we wuz kings n shieeet'".

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:rxUc/B6m Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:12:32 No.54709665 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>54709404
Barbarians are superior to people in the early stage of civilization. It is a step back until significant gains are made. And those significant gains were made by Germanics.

Anonymous

Anonymous ID:+B6uwz7A Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:13:23 No.54709690 Report Delete

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>>54709554
I'd agree with that, however my Persian friend seemed to insist that they were Nubians, who were definitively "black", and also was citing sources that related US blacks to skeletal remains.

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