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Alright 4chan, I feel that I have to post my opinion and concern about recent events in history concerning science and discovering reality.
I want to have a discussion about verificationism, and whether or not it helps with scientific progress. Verificationism is feel is the heart of almost all atheistic world views including materialism, naturalism, methodological naturalism, empiricism, scientism, etc. (this is like the foundation block for almost all of them). I dont want to have a discussion about gods existence but rather anything that isnt within the scope of current science (like anything that is beyond 3 dimension space-time, matter-energy, like what is outside the bubble of this universe, or our mind) whether the fact that we cant measure them but deduce about them, whether or not we should rule out the possibility that entities like those could exist because we cant measure them or we dont have a computational math theory for them.
Essentially abstract truths such as maths, design, art, morality (in the grandeur scope of philosophy) are experienced truths, and experienced truths such as "I think I am therefore I exist" are axioms, or the most foundational truths that we can really know of, and there have been philosophies that tried to logically [metaphysical vehicle to discern truth] tie in the outside that we see and our own existence (including all experiences that we know are true).
Now going back to the philosophy of science, attempts have been made to bridge the physical truths' existences with our own experienced truths (if you adopt the axiom that everything is related therefore one is justified to attempt to find facts about the relationships in nature; science). This is ultimately important because if one rejects the truth value of maths, philosophy and other metaphysical logics/truths, then you undermine the whole entire enterprise of science,
I want to have a discussion about verificationism, and whether or not it helps with scientific progress. Verificationism is feel is the heart of almost all atheistic world views including materialism, naturalism, methodological naturalism, empiricism, scientism, etc. (this is like the foundation block for almost all of them). I dont want to have a discussion about gods existence but rather anything that isnt within the scope of current science (like anything that is beyond 3 dimension space-time, matter-energy, like what is outside the bubble of this universe, or our mind) whether the fact that we cant measure them but deduce about them, whether or not we should rule out the possibility that entities like those could exist because we cant measure them or we dont have a computational math theory for them.
Essentially abstract truths such as maths, design, art, morality (in the grandeur scope of philosophy) are experienced truths, and experienced truths such as "I think I am therefore I exist" are axioms, or the most foundational truths that we can really know of, and there have been philosophies that tried to logically [metaphysical vehicle to discern truth] tie in the outside that we see and our own existence (including all experiences that we know are true).
Now going back to the philosophy of science, attempts have been made to bridge the physical truths' existences with our own experienced truths (if you adopt the axiom that everything is related therefore one is justified to attempt to find facts about the relationships in nature; science). This is ultimately important because if one rejects the truth value of maths, philosophy and other metaphysical logics/truths, then you undermine the whole entire enterprise of science,
