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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:16:32 No.7614034 View Reply Report Delete

Greetings.

If you have an interest in or knowledge of, the colonization of Venus; discuss it here.

Specific topics of interest:
Modular, floating housing and infrastructure in the atmosphere.
The materials that would be needed
Means of transporting them
Interplanetary transportation on a commercial scale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:19:50 No.7614039 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614270

> colonization of Venus
why ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:21:59 No.7614043 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614046 >>7614072 >>7614133 >>7614274

Some kilometers above the surface, semi habitable conditions are to be found.
Temperatures of 30 - 80 c
Standard pressure
0.9 g

The rapidly decreasing surface pressure of 90 atm should allow for large floating structures.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:23:00 No.7614046 Report Delete

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>7614039
>>7614043

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:53:24 No.7614072 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614232 >>7614328

>>7614043
What's the composition of the atmosphere like at that altitude?
The average wind velocity?

What would it take to create a self-stabilizing floating structure large enough to be a self-contained colony pod (several people, hydroponics, atmosphere scrubbing, waste reclamation, etc) that does not corrode when immersed in sulfuric acid vapor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 06:57:55 No.7614076 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614239

Venus is a shit planet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:58:39 No.7614133 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614239

>>7614043
Why live on Venus when you can live on Earth?
You can stack layers upon layers on the ground here.
Only advantage on Venus seems to be that solar power is more potent there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:36:48 No.7614232 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614244 >>7614266

>>7614072
The composition is mainly carbon dioxide at all altitudes. "Search Results

The atmosphere of Venus is mostly carbon dioxide, 96.5% by volume. Most of the remaining 3.5% is nitrogen."

From wikipedia:
"The atmosphere is in a state of vigorous circulation and super-rotation.[4] The whole atmosphere circles the planet in just four Earth days, much faster than the planet's sidereal day of 243 days. The winds supporting super-rotation blow as fast as 100 m/s (~360 km/h or 220 mph).[4] Winds move at up to 60 times the speed of the planet's rotation, while Earth's fastest winds are only 10% to 20% rotation speed.[5] On the other hand, the wind speed becomes increasingly slower as the elevation from the surface decreases, with the breeze barely reaching the speed of 10 km/h on the surface."

It would be reasonable to estimate windspeeds in the range of 180km/hour.

Gyroscopic effects could be used to keep the structures stable while riding the wind.

The maths on this will be done by me once i have gained some insight into the possibilities and validity of the concept.

The sulfuric acid vapor is of a lesser concern. Most non-metal structures wont be affected and the structures will be drifting below the cloudline of mild acid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:40:29 No.7614239 Report Delete

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>>7614133
>>7614076
Please keep this thread clean, this is for the discussion of colonizing the planet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:45:02 No.7614244 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614295

>>7614232

If the structures float BELOW the cloud line of sulphur acid, doesn't it mean acid rains should be a huge problem?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:50:39 No.7614256 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614276

>>7614034
>colonizing Venus
Is this shitpost ironic?

Floating houses?
Why not live in orbit instead you dumbfuck?
What's the benefit of corrossion and waiting for an imminent death?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:55:22 No.7614266 Report Delete

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>>7614232
In my opinion, a cone shaped pod with a flat top ,made from plastic and carbon-fiber composites would be a good shape.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:57:08 No.7614270 Report Delete

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>>7614039

if you have no interest, stfu&gtfo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:01:31 No.7614274 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614277

>>7614043
Enjoy a few hundred Km wind speeds

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:01:58 No.7614276 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614284

>>7614256
Think for at least 5 minutes before you comment on a scientific board this is not /b. Your childish insults aside, living under 0.9 g and 1 atmosphere of pressure for prolonged periods of time is less costly than living in orbit. Bone degradation and health risks are also factors.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:03:27 No.7614277 Report Delete

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>>7614274
The idea is for the pods to float with the wind; "orbiting" the planet in ~8 days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:07:46 No.7614284 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614308

>>7614276
>iving under 0.9 g and 1 atmosphere of pressure for prolonged periods of time is less costly than living in orbit

>less costly

You don't seem to have a basic gasp on any of the science behind what you're talking about.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:12:19 No.7614292 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614302

Why are people crying about this, if space travel were at a point where transport to venus was reasonably financially viable then it could easily be a vacation spot for the super rich

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:13:27 No.7614295 Report Delete

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>>7614244
Only to people who go outside in those conditions without protective clothing. Keep in mind that a cheap plastic raincoat and breathing mask would keep you safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:18:27 No.7614302 Report Delete

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>>7614292

It seems to me as if there has been a stagnation period in space propulsion technology for the last 40 years which is about to break. I predict that in the next 25 years it will become financially viable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:21:48 No.7614308 Report Delete

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>>7614284
I don't much care what you think my grasp of these sciences are. If you have a problem with my statement; correct it with sources and i will be happy to have been further informed on the topic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:24:58 No.7614313 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>7614513

Venus is a shit planet.

Who /europa/ here?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:35:23 No.7614328 Report Delete

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>>7614072
Let the first cone shaped pod be constructed (bare bones; only shape and stabilization gear) in space and dropped via parachute.

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:34:31 No.7614513 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>7614313
>europa
>not ganymede

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:05:53 No.7614557 Report Delete

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>not starting with the moon
i am dissapoint
i mean if your lucky you migth actually see the first steps to colonizing the moon in your lifetime

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