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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:29:37 No.43318395 View Reply Report Delete

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Previous thread: >>43206387

Useful links now here:http://pastebin.com/JtFH682q

Link for the Trove:https://mega.co.nz/#F!3FcAQaTZ!BkCA0bzsQGmA2GNRUZlxzg

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:51 No.43365068 Report Delete

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>>43351440
Troveguy:
When you decide this is finished, slap a character sheet with it and I'll add it to the trove, if you want.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:37:38 No.43365374 Report Delete

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>>43364757

Hey now, are you trying to imply heavy metal is not the exact same thing as "edgy," or that it's not something you ought to take 100% seriously all the time?

Because there's a Serious Edgelord here who'd like to tell you that he's not going to take that anymore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 04:34:05 No.43366689 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43367250 >>43375202 >>43375521 >>43375787

How do yo guys feel about human-only settings? The historical implied setting for most LotFP is human-centric if not solely human, and AS&SH is humans only. In hindsight most of the early sword & sorcery fiction was also human only.

Does fantasy have to have nonhumans before you want to play/run it?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:31:19 No.43367230 Report Delete

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>>43365374
>Because there's a Serious Edgelord here who'd like to tell you that he's not going to take that anymore.
Yeah, I try to stay away from Captain Howdy there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:34:22 No.43367250 Report Delete

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>>43366689

Personally I'm a fan of either, but I've actually been a little put off by all human fantasy in recent years because of /tg/'s obnoxious opinion trolls about them.

My first setting was all humans. Now I'm branching out.

Oh- and also just because the setting has humans in it doesn't mean all the humans are the same. Many settings have multiple flavors of elf, so why not do the same for humans too? That's what I'm doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:42:28 No.43367329 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43371132

Hey OSR general.

I really enjoy the idea behind dungeon creation and stuff, as well as simple PDFs or little documents about your dungeons that people make and so on, but I don't use the same system as the actual old school hex-crawl style games.

How could I convert other dungeons or my own dungeons into a more universal format?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 07:24:23 No.43368111 Report Delete

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>>43364148
neat

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 07:29:33 No.43368155 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43368558 >>43371066

Does anyone have a pdf copy of the LotFP rules and magic with art included?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 08:24:29 No.43368558 Report Delete

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>>43368155
Did you check the Trove in the OP?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 08:39:47 No.43368654 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43368793

>>43368558
It only has the free version with no art.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:00:52 No.43368793 Report Delete

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>>43368654
Is this bait?

Because you've successfully made me waste my to time to check Trove and find out that there are 3 core LotFP books with the art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:06:01 No.43368827 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43368882

>>43368793
It only has the grindhouse version of the rules and magic core book, not the newer print, which it has the art free version of. It actually has the grindhouse version in there 3 times, all exactly the same.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:12:26 No.43368882 Report Delete

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>>43368827
The important bit is does it have the Firearms rules?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:29:38 No.43371066 Report Delete

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>>43368155

I've got the one with this artwork on the cover. Also the Referee book with the Erol Otus styled tentacle owl monster on the cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:30:35 No.43371076 Report Delete

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Bump

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:35:19 No.43371132 Report Delete

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>>43367329
which system are you using? Basically, you need to be familiar with what the stats given in osr modules actually mean (and what the PCs in these modules are expected to be capable of) before you can really convert to another system.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:36:21 No.43371145 Report Delete

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>>43365068
Woop!
I'm currently tidying stuff up and doing some playtesting. Should be good to go soon, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:37:12 No.43371155 Report Delete

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>>43371066
As far as I can tell there is 3 printings. That version, Grindhouse edition (has a naked naga on the cover) and the deluxe edition (newer art, this is the one that was crowdfunded on indiegogo). I believe all that is different between them is mostly art though.

Someone more knowledgable with LotFP feel free to correct me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:05:37 No.43371581 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43371695 >>43371813

>>43371155

Okay so we don't have Grindhouse or the new one in the Trove, just lots of 1st printings renamed.
There are differences, though -- I just looked at the new printing free Rules and Magic book, and there are way more cleric spells than in the 1st edition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:14:07 No.43371695 Report Delete

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>>43371581
The new one is in there, just the free version without art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:21:52 No.43371813 Report Delete

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>>43371581
Also we're missing The Idea From Space and "Adventure #10".

List of all LotFP releases: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FYz4U4r0qVnJ4N5K6gjY7ejtwGa_FOTkMyKNAk8OUl8/edit#gid=0

Info on Adventure #10: http://www.lotfp.com/RPG/discussion/topic/592/what-is-adventure-number-10/

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:24:02 No.43371847 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43371968 >>43371987

Missing these 3;
The Idea from Space
Forgive Us
Kiss of the Frog God

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:32:51 No.43371968 Report Delete

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>>43371847
Oh hey I bought Forgive Us a week ago to add to the trove, must have forgot to link it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:35:07 No.43371987 Report Delete

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>>43371847
Does Kiss of the Frog God count? It's 3rd party after all. On further investigation Adventure #10 is print only and limited in number. Unless we get a scan or someone drops a lot of money we won't ever see it.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:35:50 No.43372000 Report Delete

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>>43371968
>Forgive_Us
You are amazing anon!

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:47:15 No.43372171 Report Delete

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>>43372000
Oh hey, I just realised I also bought and meant to upload this too! I don't know why I did, there is plenty of copies floating around on google, but it's not in the trove.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:58:12 No.43372329 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43372384

>>43371987
>Does Kiss of the Frog God count?
It only counts if ppl want to play it. It would be nice to add just for that reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:01:37 No.43372384 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43372441

>>43372329
Well, I'll bite the bullet and buy Idea From Space, but I'm hesitant to get Frog God. Someone else do it. Give me a minute to grab Idea From Space.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:06:37 No.43372441 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43372482 >>43372678 >>43374666

>>43372384
Okay, here's Idea From Space. That's 3 new LotFP modules for the trove courtesy of yours truly. Also coming: Deluxe Edition Rules and Magic, the full version with art.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:11:03 No.43372482 Report Delete

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>>43372441
Aaaand there we go, the full version. Troveguy make sure to wipe any identification or whatever from them.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/lvn815ss9t8cmgn/LotFPRulesMagic_%287877702%29.pdf?dl=0

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:23:54 No.43372678 Report Delete

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>>43372441
>>43372482

Thanks again anon!

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:30:54 No.43372775 Report Delete

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>>43372678
Make sure to pick them up for yourself when you have the funds. TTRPGs need supporting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:33:51 No.43372817 Report Delete

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>>43372775
Yeah, I've been holding out on my purchases until The Cursed Chateau comes out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 16:24:44 No.43374666 Report Delete

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>>43372441
To quote Wayne and Garth:

"We're not worthy! We're not worthy!!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 16:28:20 No.43374727 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43375673

>>43360013
>an attribute modifier applies to the skill.
You know what? In a regular LotFP game I'd never play with this, but in your game I think it's a brilliant, theme-reinforcing rule. It makes total sense that in the stone age, natural aptitude matters relatively more than the crude beginnings of taught skill.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 16:55:06 No.43375202 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43375549

>>43366689
>Does fantasy have to have nonhumans before you want to play/run it?
Absolutely not. I usually go Elf if they're available, but just like you said, tons and tons of the classics are human-only. To me it would feel absurd to ass ache that my DM wanted to run a game like that, or one set in a historical period.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:14:15 No.43375521 Report Delete

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>>43366689
As a player, I like to have that option. As a GM if the setting permits it, I like to offer that option. I'm not a big fan of westerns, (I don't hate the genre, it's just not my first pick) but my group is currently running Deadlands. You have humans and perhaps Harrowed as your choices. In that setting, I'm fine with playing a human because it makes sense.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:15:36 No.43375549 Report Delete

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>>43375202
you can accomadate the dwarf/elf/halfling in all-human games though. Just make them human professions rather than species. I mean refluffing 'halfling' as 'ranger' in games without a ranger class (and visa versa) is pretty standard.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:21:55 No.43375673 Report Delete

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>>43374727
this is my thinking. A Hunter at the time didn't just run up to a mammoth and hit it with a club until it fell over, they used stealth and ambushes and traps and rockfalls and fire to fuck 'em over and then go in for the kill. So it feels appropriate that they can get better at a certain skillset as a basic character, even if they'll never improve it and easilly get outstripped by a dedicated expert.
I'm thinking of giving the Hunter an automatic progression in Charm (like the magician gets an automatic progression in Art) to really drive home that these are the big popular heroic folks who bring home the meat; I've set up the rules for tribes to give Hunters a distinct advantage, but I don't think it swings far enough in their favour compared to an expert set up with Charm 5 or 6. This matters because I want there to be non-combat endgame stuff for each class to be doing. Experts can mess about with herbalism, and magicians get a whole bunch of stuff with spell research and making magic items. So rather than hunters just sitting around waiting for something to come along for them to hit, I was seeing them as being the ones that work best as tribal chiefs. Iunno, though.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:27:20 No.43375787 Report Delete

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>>43366689
It doesn't need it, but I enjoy having them when I can.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:27:25 No.43375789 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43378240

>>43372482
> Troveguy make sure to wipe any identification or whatever from them.
Troveguy: I would, but honestly I have no idea how to do that. Anybody know the drill?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:36:59 No.43375979 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43376284

>>43375549
Sorry, I didn't mean Elf as in the mechanical class. Everything you say is true, but what I meant was if there are elves in the setting as a PC option I tend to play one.

I *do* also like the Basic D&D Elf class, though.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:52:23 No.43376284 Report Delete

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>>43375979
also, it's very possible to include them in a historical setting. I've seen osr games where elves are literal 'stolen by the fairies and replaced with a bundle of twigs' changelings, which seems quite neat in a historical game with magic in. The same game had halflings as The Hills Have Eyes inbred rustic nasties, and dorfs as alchemically enhanced soldiers.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 17:58:48 No.43376413 Report Delete

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Which version of Lamentations of the Flame Princess is better? Grindhouse?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 18:07:56 No.43376601 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43376982

>>43376413
As far as I know, the Rules & Magic Free edition is the most up to date. Some of the demi-humans got tweaks. Dwarves are better than they were. Spell lists were rebalanced. And they switched to a silver standard instead of gold to be slightly more realistic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 18:26:41 No.43376982 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43377511

>>43376601
Thanks. Which Referee Book is the most up to date?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 18:53:03 No.43377511 Report Delete

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>>43376982
Technically, the Rules & Magic Free edition doesn't have an up-to-date counterpart, but the most currently up to date one is the one he's offering free.

http://www.rpgnow.com/product/148012/LotFP-Referee-Book-old-Grindhouse-Edition

If there's any contradiction between the two, assume the R&MF book supersedes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 19:38:03 No.43378240 Report Delete

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>>43375789
I believe people on 7chan are doing it. There was an instruction somewhere, or you can just ask volcanohound (he is sticking to the pdf-release thread) to clean. You might've to wait a bit, though. They've got some sort of release ceremony.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 20:06:13 No.43378713 Report Delete

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Hey OSR, I'm trying to wrap my head around something.

So apparently back in old school DnD as I'm seeing in this thread and various retroclones; there was a fighter, a mage, and a expert/skilled guy as basic classes, right?

So the expert guy would be a thief. What else could/would they be besides a thief? It seems like a necessary skill set in old school dungeon crawling and stuff, disarming traps and sneaking around. What other archetypes could you make them?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 20:25:48 No.43379047 Report Delete

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>>43378713
The best version of a thief class i've seen was in LotFP where they call them Specialists.

Really, the thief can be anything from explorers to Indiana Jones style figures. They can be thieves, but also dare devils, spies, free agents, and so on. I had one guy play his as a sort of detective-for-hire. Once they get some levels under them, they aren't bad spec-ops guys either.

But the LotFP variant has the added touch of also getting to spec into survivalist stuff, so on top of everything else they can also be rangers/scouts/etc.

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