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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:27:36 No.43272908 View Reply Report Delete

Ig and Rg are now npc armies for the tau edition.

>Rules databases
https://mega.co.nz/#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ
https://kat.cr/warhammer-40k-pdf-library-t9575373.html

FAQ’s
http://www.blacklibrary.com/faqs-and-errata.html

>40k 7th edition quick reference sheet(s).
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4104995/Games/7edRef_V6.pdf

>Forgeworld Book index
http://www.dakkadakka.com/wiki/en/Forge_World_and_Apocalypse_Rules_Index

>/tg/ 40k argument lore and tactica.
http://1d4chan.org/wiki/Butthurt

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:33:08 No.43272950 Report Delete

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where can i download the book?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:35:04 No.43272966 Report Delete

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>>43272908

Second for the Tau are actually pretty cool dudes

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:37:59 No.43272993 Report Delete

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>>43272966

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:39:22 No.43273009 Report Delete

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>>43272966
infantry design is tops
the rest is.. ehhh

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:41:14 No.43273025 Report Delete

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>>43272966
>>43272993

Remember when you were invited to the cool mech n gundam party? Oh wait.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:46:21 No.43273062 Report Delete

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>>43273025
Silly gue'la, we ARE gundam now. We throw the parties now.

Speaking of parties and cakes:

>>43271357
Those are still working, for those interested (Tau and Kauyon new books)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:46:34 No.43273063 Report Delete

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Fifth for tau are prettt ugly tbh fam

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:56:08 No.43273110 Report Delete

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I have finished my tau army for the new codex and want to start a new army, any ideas?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:06:30 No.43273179 Report Delete

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>>43273110

Do you own a Tau-KX139 Ta'unar Supremacy Armour?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:14:30 No.43273245 Report Delete

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>>43273179
I have 3 for that fire team bonus.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:15:17 No.43273254 Report Delete

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Thinking about building a Daemon list around the following tactic:

>Take Epidermis
>Fill all HS and Elite Slots w/ as many walkers as possible
>Take a Chaos Knight Paladin
>Fill the rest of the army with plaguebearers (like 40 or 50)
>Siege the shit out of the board with all my S8 AP3 Large blast bombardments (along with the vehichles themselves having shrouded) until my plaguebearers are all S & T5 with FnP 4+

How do you think this would work as a tactic?

My current list I've thought up has 3 soul grinders with phlegm, 1 Decimator with conversion beamer and 1 Knight paladin. All these units count as daemons of nurgle for the purposes of the tally, and they all have very long ranged bombardments.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:18:09 No.43273279 Report Delete

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>>43273254
Even at s5, your Plageuebearers aren't really horrifying. You'd be out-gunned by Tau, Eldar and Ad.Mech/Skitarii.

A similar tactic has been used using Plague Drones + Soul Grinders + Epidermius, I think it was Nick Nanavati that ran a list like that at some GTs for a while

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:19:40 No.43273291 Report Delete

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Did the tau codex get leaked?

if so where?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:19:45 No.43273292 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43273519 >>43273617 >>43273826 >>43279468

We're rattling through the threads recently, aren't we?

Apart from "don't", what's good advice for starting orks? Semi-related, how many rokkit launchers do you get in the boyz box? Initial thoughts were a few boxes of boyz, use the rokkit launcher dudes to make a unit of tankbusters, and then a unit of lootas because I like them. Oh, and an HQ, I suppose.

Also, would I be right in thinking that powerclaws are their only real solution to AV14 and 2+ saves?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:23:32 No.43273315 Report Delete

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>>43273279
What about using Plaguedrones instead for Epidermis' unit itself?

Doesn't really solve the problem of not being threatening enough, though I figured all the good shooting armies bar-crons are T3 so they'd crumble when I eventually reach melee (which could potentially be never vs eldar)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:24:13 No.43273322 Report Delete

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>>43273291
http://www.gamestrust.de/bilder,list1263,1,warhammer-40-000-tau-empire.html

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:28:46 No.43273366 Report Delete

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Been looking through the new tau (thanks for the Readium recommendation whichever anon that was) and thankfully the ghostkeel and stormsurge pay riptide prices for the stim injector and shield generator (35 and 50 points respectively).

Funny consequence of crisis suits being able to take signature systems is you can have a single rambo crisis suit with the onager gauntlet, rather than having to use a commander. Costs 27 points. Given it's so cheap DISTRACTION CRISIS SUIT pretty much has to be done for comedy value if nothing else. Add a shield drone to get it there if you feel like it.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:30:17 No.43273379 Report Delete

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>>43273366
why use an onager when fusion blasters exist, though

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:32:00 No.43273395 Report Delete

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>>43273379
It's funnier.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:33:30 No.43273412 Report Delete

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>>43273366
How do you use Readium? Installed the extension here, but I couldn't make it work at all. Unless that lets me open xhtml files on chrome - don't remember being able to to that before

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:37:07 No.43273447 Report Delete

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>>43273412
install readium, download books, open up readium chrome in apps and then load in the downloaded books

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:37:13 No.43273450 Report Delete

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>>43273412
For me it didn't open through the Chrome browser, it opened through a separate program that also got installed called the Chrone App Launcher. Once you've got it open, you want Library in the top right and then just browse to wherever the file is on your computer.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:43:06 No.43273519 Report Delete

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>>43273292
>Expecting someone to bring Terminators at such a small game
Revise your friend list. But yeah, that's the option you have aside from putting in some dedicated armor splitters.

Also, don't.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:45:59 No.43273544 Report Delete

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>major thing i care about is Breachers
>one of 2 pages still in fucking german

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:52:40 No.43273594 Report Delete

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>>43273544

what do you want to know?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:55:04 No.43273617 Report Delete

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>>43273292
Its 1 rokkit per box, you also get some grenade and landmine arms you could use to make tankbustas. As for starting,I prefer orks in trucks and wagons with lootas and mek guns in the back. Bikers are good too. Basically you need a way to get that turn 2 assault or go full green tide. Also don't underestimate the MANZ missle(meganobs in a truck)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:55:05 No.43273618 Report Delete

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>>43273594
Basically where they lie on the FOC and if anything changed from the original leaked screenshots. Also the points for everything

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:57:10 No.43273641 Report Delete

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>>43273447
>>43273450
Got it guys, thanks.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 08:58:21 No.43273653 Report Delete

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How would breachers fire overwatch, if it were supporting fire for another unit?
Would the 5" profile always be used?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:01:07 No.43273684 Report Delete

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>>43273653
yeah

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:03:15 No.43273700 Report Delete

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>>43273366
can you link me to the codex file?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:04:29 No.43273708 Report Delete

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Are the two Raven Guard formations in Kauyon or the Shadow Talon booklet?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:04:57 No.43273712 Report Delete

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>>43273700
Don't know if anon's taken it down yet, but >>43272069. You'll need to rename it to an epub file.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:05:10 No.43273714 Report Delete

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>>43273641
Woha... now that I'm using Readium, it kicks Sumatra in the ass!

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:06:15 No.43273726 Report Delete

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>>43273653
>Would the 5" profile always be used?
Wouldn't that depend on the distance of the unit that declared a charge? Overwatch is done before moving dudes in, right?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:07:54 No.43273738 Report Delete

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>>43273708
They're definitely in Kauyon. And there's more than two.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:08:18 No.43273740 Report Delete

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>>43273712
>rename it to an epub file.
how?

Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd

Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:09:05 No.43273745 Report Delete

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>>43273726
Correct. You'd check to make sure the Breachers are in range of the unit being charged so they qualify for Supporting Fire, then check their ranges to the assaulting unit. It doesn't matter if the assaulter would end up 2" away from the Breachers at the end of their charge move - Overwatch occurs before the move is made, so you'll use whatever range band they're in when the charge is declared.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:09:28 No.43273754 Report Delete

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>>43273712

I tried reading those files but the text is all misaligned and shit. Did I download a trojan?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:17:00 No.43273811 Report Delete

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>>43273754
no, but you need an extension called Readium to get them straight

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:17:03 No.43273812 Report Delete

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>>43273062
Its great because tau robots are too small to be gundams. The taunar is the size that all standard medium gundams are at.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:18:00 No.43273826 Report Delete

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>>43273292

That's what happens when 2 big books get leaked I guess.

Also, someone at Black Library will probably not have a job Monday

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:18:35 No.43273831 Report Delete

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>>43272005

Why does anons suck at reading?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:19:28 No.43273842 Report Delete

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>>43273812
>The taunar is the size that all standard medium gundams are at.

So Warlord Titans are large Gundam? Wow.
None of them come close to SDF-1 anyway

Macross > Gundam

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:22:02 No.43273858 Report Delete

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>>43273826
Actually, it happened before but more funnier.

The Bloodbound battletome was put in download in the White Dwarf tap. People bought the battletome for like 4 dollars.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:25:41 No.43273890 Report Delete

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>>43273831

N'dras confirmed Necron Tomb World

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:31:58 No.43273943 Report Delete

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>>43273853
A single Broadside shouldn't be an issue, but two might already be a tight squeeze.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:33:16 No.43273957 Report Delete

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When the inevitable Mont'ka book comes, what forces are likely to intervene? Farsight Enclaves are obvious, Iron Hands seem to have a vendetta against him. Who else?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:35:50 No.43273978 Report Delete

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>>43273943

Dang. Oh well, I currently only own one Broadside anyhow, and rerolling ones for his Missile Drones plus deducting the cost of a markerdrone unit ain't too bad.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:40:25 No.43274013 Report Delete

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:41:01 No.43274025 Report Delete

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White Scars confirmed for Tourney-fag Cent Gravstars

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:41:08 No.43274027 Report Delete

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>>43273978

In fact...

Start Commander with two markerdrones behind droneport with Broadside and two missile drones on it,

Detach marker drones,

Join commander to marker drones for BS5 JSJ markers,

Surfing broadside.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:41:55 No.43274037 Report Delete

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>>43273943

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:45:10 No.43274059 Report Delete

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>>43273957

Wait. Even the Farsight Enclaves survived under their own vs the forces of the Imperium?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:47:05 No.43274077 Report Delete

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>>43273858
i would suggest that maybe they did it on purpose, but yeah it's pretty silly.

i think gw leaks because it's always the same person taking the same terrible shots. i know leaks are illegal and all that but maybe some upside down shots or lots of blue, change it up.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:51:07 No.43274117 Report Delete

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>>43274025
Imagine this with star Phantoms tactics

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:52:07 No.43274128 Report Delete

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>>43274037
Kill yourself

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:53:06 No.43274140 Report Delete

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Hate Apple so much right now.

Tried about five ways of getting these Epubs larger than 25mb to my ipad.

Nothing works.

Fucking website offering to send big files by email just sent a download link for the file instead. If I could download non-pdf shit from an Ipad I wouldn't have fucking tried to send it by email, would I?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:53:14 No.43274143 Report Delete

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>>43274025
This is Tau codex tier bs.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:54:21 No.43274153 Report Delete

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>>43274140
You need to connect your ipad to your computer and drag the files over as if the ipad was a storage device

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:54:33 No.43274156 Report Delete

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>>43273943
https://mega.nz/#!h5Z30DwK!z7-0WSP5ZOXn0A8_6XiGyoJJuj_ezQxNL8lnC00bGkI

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:54:33 No.43274157 Report Delete

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Is there a .pdf of the new book yet? ePubs don't work on my phone.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:55:05 No.43274167 Report Delete

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>>43273245
>3 FoW

And this is why unbound is shit. You're thinking of KV118.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:55:54 No.43274172 Report Delete

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So Im a new player and I got dark vengeance but the mini codex does not have the points of the armies so I cant play with others at stores if anyone knows the points of each army especially dark angels I would appreciate if you told me

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:58:44 No.43274200 Report Delete

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So now that hammerheads come in squadrons and have the fireteam rule will we see more of them on the table?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:59:00 No.43274203 Report Delete

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So, you buy the Kauyon book if you have 6th edition Tau codex?

Okay. I can cry as Shadowsun out-ruses Raven Guard Chapter Master, then one hits him (kills him too) then KO's Khan under a building. Khan then goes "RAAAGH! LET THE GALAXY BURN! SHADOWSUN IS DEEEAD"

And that means utterly nothing. Well, less than nothing, Shadowsun will easily kill Khan. Khan is less popular. Which is funny, as the only dead-in-fluff guy who has a unit entry is Tycho (he has TWO entries and is so shit it's funny).

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:00:00 No.43274211 Report Delete

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>>43274172
mega:///#F!pFgm0RKR!J06C1gVYcjzNGsF8YNLsjQ

Go to 40k codex tab, find Dark Angels, download it. Then memories it or write a list or put it on a tablet or something.

Or buy the codex.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:01:18 No.43274222 Report Delete

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>>43274153

I don't think apple allow that, but I'll try anything at this point.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:03:58 No.43274243 Report Delete

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>>43274222

Nope. Didn't do shit.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:07:11 No.43274262 Report Delete

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>>43274200
Not the railgun version at least, pic related may be easier to kill, but it's 120 points cheaper and comes with armourbane.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:09:24 No.43274279 Report Delete

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>>43274243
Did you have it unlocked while it was plugged in?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:12:01 No.43274300 Report Delete

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>>43274037
Can't do that. Nothing stops you putting the broadsides over the convex wall, though.

>>43274200
Yes. Even more Sky Rays, though.

>>43274203
>So, you buy the Kauyon book if you have 6th edition Tau codex?
Yes. If you don't have either, you can grab the 7e codex. Kauyon has rules for the tidewall - the codex hasn't.

>>43274156
Thanks, pal!

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:14:10 No.43274318 Report Delete

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>>43274262
It's also far less mobile and has less guns. Plus it needs 3 other units too babysit it and fire the guns.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:14:43 No.43274324 Report Delete

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>>43274172
I hate how they couldnt do this with shadow force solaq and the tau box

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:16:50 No.43274346 Report Delete

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The optimised stealth cadre is just too fucking disgusting to use outside of a no holds barred tourney.

Anyway, any news on whether "Coordinated Firepower" works with unit-affecting special rules/wargear like the structural analyzer?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:18:54 No.43274365 Report Delete

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>>43274318
but 3 s10 ap1 armourbane shots ... toss a commander with broadsides in one of the gunforts plus pTL buff and you got bs5 s10 ap1 armourbane shots

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:21:21 No.43274387 Report Delete

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There should be a quick reference sheet with a roster for both factions included in the box

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:22:19 No.43274401 Report Delete

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>>43274318
if you use the special fire mode, you need only 1 model, and all will have Armourbane for the S10 shot or the blast will become S7. No need for SMS, when you can put strikers there.

Railguns are 60". Why do you need to move this thing?

>>43274365
Broadsides are S8

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:23:32 No.43274417 Report Delete

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>>43274172
dont forger to give te termies power sombreros, the deathwing are major mariachi fans.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YROOgLD-wtU

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:23:38 No.43274418 Report Delete

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>>43274143
how about assault marines and vanguard vets that deepstrike turn 1 with no scatter that can assault the same turn

because that's a thing now

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:23:46 No.43274419 Report Delete

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>>43274365
Once you've done that you've spent a lot more points and still have more fragile and less mobile railguns. BS5 S10 AP1 is pretty good anti tank on its own anyway even without armourbane and in practice having a more mobile more resilient single unit will be more useful anti tank in most games.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:24:12 No.43274424 Report Delete

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>>43274262
People who think that mech guard is still viable. Look at this. Having strong armour and flyers means shit when the enemy is just going to table you by turn 2-3 from deepstriking melta faries, always rear-hiting stealth units, extra armourbane, bouncing shots from weapons too weak to dmg vehicles auto glancing. Wake up and smell the smoldering steel.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:28:49 No.43274473 Report Delete

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>>43274417
You don't understand why it was used. That's OK. But don't start hating on something cause you don't understand it.

I'll help you out. Deathwing are an Elite force of Dark Angels Space Marines. Once upon a time, they found out one of their recruiting worlds was infected with genestealers, so, knowing they weren't enough to beat them all and survive, they painted their armour white to symbolise them as dead men walking. In the game, they are on a Space Hulk, a huge coglomration of ships combined by Warp shit. These are often infected with Genestealers. They know they're dead men walking, or, as the song goes "walking with a ghost" (it's actually the title of the song!). The mariachi theme is due to the fact it's their "final stand", and as such, that music is often used in such circumstances.

Now you understand why the song "Walking with a Ghost" is used in joint with Deathwing who are "Dead men walking" on a "suicide" mission to blow up the Space Hulk. Think of it as the 40k equivalent of the Alamo.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:31:48 No.43274496 Report Delete

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>>43274401
>Railguns are 60". Why do you need to move this thing?
Because you're opponent will hide behind terrain.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:32:08 No.43274500 Report Delete

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>>43274473
He'd probably get the point if you called it a mexican standoff.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:34:04 No.43274517 Report Delete

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>>43274473
i know that and i like the song too i just think mariachi marines are funny.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:35:35 No.43274535 Report Delete

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>>43274517
Idem

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ug_gqH1tzPk

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:36:58 No.43274554 Report Delete

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>>43274401
They are called Railguns not heavy railrifles, they'll be S10 AP1 with submunition rounds as well

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:38:59 No.43274578 Report Delete

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>>43274473
>Hurr not fitting with the setting
>plebian non-church organ music

I cant tell you how much I hate people like this. The people who made the trailer, from a cinematic view point, chose so well in both song and visual effects.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:45:41 No.43274669 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274711 >>43274716

Are railgun broadsides still useless?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:46:25 No.43274680 Report Delete

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>>43274517
Fair enough. I just see lots of people from /v/ complaining about it. Not just here mind. On lots of websites.

>>43274500
I thought Alamo was a better analogy.

>>43274578
I like the ending of it in particular, when the emblem pops up. The amount of complaints I've seen from so called "fans" blows my mind. They don't seem to get it. If it isn't Gothic Chant then it's -1000/10.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:46:48 No.43274686 Report Delete

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can someone whose downloaded the hunter post the raven guard stuff please? This hotel wifi is absolute garbage.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:48:47 No.43274711 Report Delete

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>>43274669
Yes

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:49:01 No.43274714 Report Delete

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>>43274680
who even remembers the alamo

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:49:08 No.43274716 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274669
Of corsh
Fuck Gays Whoreshit

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:51:40 No.43274746 Report Delete

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>>43274346
on a scale of 1 being processed cheese and 10 being Pule cheese (which is like $600 or so per pound) just how OP are we talking?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:52:45 No.43274771 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274805 >>43275034

Good news, nid players! The tau didn't out-evolve you any more, and could only beat you with the help of the imperials. Pic is from the timeline in the new tau codex

Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd

Deathleaper's Fangirl !!YD/t8+iuFvd Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:56:23 No.43274805 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274847 >>43274850 >>43274932

>>43274771
Hooray! Now can we have a functional codex, please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:57:35 No.43274822 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274496
Sniff them out. Tau has a lot of DS/outflank stuff for that

>>43274554
Broadsides have HRRs, not Railguns. They won't get armourbane from the Gunfort - that a special ability of the weapons, not the terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:58:03 No.43274829 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274858 >>43274932 >>43274950

>>43274746
10. It's absolutely RAPE against every vehicle that is not a Land Raider or a Monolith.

We are talking about 18 24" S7 BS 5 ignore cover shots that always hit on the rear armor. They have good chances of ripping apart a knight in one shooting phase even if it puts its shield on the rear.

And this on T5 3+ models that have almost always a 2+ cover and three times a game can gain invisibility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:59:00 No.43274843 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274913 >>43274932

Have you ever played a narative campaign 40k General? If so what happened in it?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:59:11 No.43274847 Report Delete

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>>43274805

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:59:17 No.43274850 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274805
You know what you gotta do ;^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:59:43 No.43274858 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274866

>>43274829
You forgot they can also take 18" meltas

you mad bro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:01:09 No.43274866 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274896

>>43274858
And a blast melta too

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:03:11 No.43274896 Report Delete

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>>43274866
And that is only the shooting from the Ghostkeel, the other suits can still fire 30 S5 shots at AB4, with is still rape against every vehicle with 10 or 11 of rear armour.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:04:20 No.43274913 Report Delete

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>>43274843
Everything was fine until that WAAC faggot showed up

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:05:27 No.43274932 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274805
>nids
expect to get lots of reaction images. Dimachaeron looks cool though and i would love to get my hands on some nid bits

>>43274829
note to self, don't use vehicles against tau. good thing i got some nice monsters

>>43274843
i was in a campaign once, i had to move away so i didn't get a chance to play much. everyone was on the board and either in various factions or by themselves i think. you got bonuses from winning like another 50/100 points for your army.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:06:51 No.43274950 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274971 >>43275835

>>43274829
Is the stealth cadre one UNIT of Ghostkeel battleshits or ONE Ghostkeel battlesuit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:07:56 No.43274963 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274991 >>43275014 >>43275046

>pathfinders "suck"
Well how would you faggots fix them then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:08:31 No.43274971 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43274979

>>43274950
What is the most op possibility? You can bet on that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:08:50 No.43274974 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275013

Three Ghostkeels in formation against Knight...

BS5 from formation buff plus fire team.

Rear AV 17, S7 Assault 6 AP 4 times 3.

Average 3 misses, average 5 glances and pens, no AP2 or 1 so pens are the same as glances.

Knight saves 2.5.

Twin linked fusion... all 3 hit, out of Melta range that's 1 glance and 1 pen average. If pen makes it through the save, 1 in 3 chance of explosion.

So average 3.5 or so hull points done, but with only slightly above average luck easily 5-6.

In Melta range, much higher chance of penning and thus triggering explosions, especially if the Stealth Teams in the formation brought some Melta.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:09:06 No.43274979 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274971

Make them troops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:09:59 No.43274991 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274963
Fleet
They're fine the way they are, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:12:07 No.43275013 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274974
Remember that by putting your shield on the rear you are showing your front to the rest of the Tau army.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:12:09 No.43275014 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274963
infiltrate
remove markerdrones from the book
let you take 1-3 squads per FOC slot

They only suck because their one job (spam marker tokens) is now handled by much better units.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:12:26 No.43275021 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275320 >>43275594 >>43275879 >>43281055

>>43274346
>>43274746
It's really not.

Against armies with no access to ignores cover and a lot of vehicles (Ork dread mobb, or evil suns) it's really gay, but for Space Marines at least, they should be fine.

The core decurion formation giving out ignores cover like candy means the tau player will be paying 30 points for a single T3 3+ save wound and the Ghostkeel will have the durability of a Wingless daemon prince with no invuln.

Dunno about other factions having an answer to this though.

Chaos are probably fucked outside of magic and melee since we have no ignores cover shooting of any repute

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:12:54 No.43275025 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275881

Why don't Tau infantry have jet packs? The thing that would let them escape an assault

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:13:37 No.43275034 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275109 >>43275120

>>43274771
That's just a summary of the event, not a detailed description of what happened during the war. In the whole description in the Nid previous dexes states that the Tau found the weakness in Gorgon's adaptation cycle and exploited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:15:07 No.43275046 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274963
Make them troops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:15:19 No.43275051 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274172
700-750 for dark angels. Get battle scribe on your phone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:19:17 No.43275106 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275138 >>43275182

Could the Iron Hands break the Tau? https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zRjFsOuuvzE

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:19:50 No.43275109 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275243

>>43275034
Nah, this is new fluff overriding the old fluff. The old tau codex doesn't have the bit about the nids out evolving/adapting the tau.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:20:16 No.43275117 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275344 >>43275594 >>43276042 >>43279040

>>43274473
>explaining the most basic shit like you're a genius for figuring it out
No shit, it's still a terrible song that didn't fit the trailer. That said Gregorian chanting wouldn't have done it either, metal has always been the 40k soundtrack.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:20:20 No.43275120 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275141

>>43275034
Anon, you better not be making claims about the tau without sources in these parts.

A certian flighless fowl may decidde to look your way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:21:46 No.43275138 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275158

>>43275106
obviously not since they weren't able to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:22:09 No.43275141 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275120
It's just you Proof Anon hates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:23:15 No.43275158 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275268

>>43275138
They get a moral victory on the account that Tau are the physically weakest race in the galaxy, and thus own the weakest flesh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:24:26 No.43275182 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275226

>>43275106
But their Nemesis is Farsight, not Shadowsun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:26:41 No.43275207 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274037

Overlapping bases so doesn't work. What is this, Age of Sigmar?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:27:00 No.43275214 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275226

>>43272908
What's the deal with that bird in the OP image? That wasn't always there, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:27:39 No.43275226 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275343

>>43275182
Break Farsight, then Shadowsun before she becomes more OP. Question, does Abaddon even know that the Tau exist?
>>43275214
There was one Anon that demanded proof.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:29:10 No.43275243 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275262

>>43275109
The 5th ED Tyranid codex does mention that the Tau were in the backfoot forced to adapt to counter Gorgon's adaption. This continued until the Tau figured out its weakness.

We will see in the next Tyranid codex where they will give a detailed account. Wanna bet that Tau finding the weakness in Gorgon's is mentioned?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:30:16 No.43275255 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275282

With so many souls, why Farsight isn't an Eternal Warrior, has It Will Not Die, or some other Immortal rule already?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:30:36 No.43275262 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275271

>>43275243
>We will see in the next Tyranid codex where they will give a detailed account.
So ten years from now?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:30:58 No.43275268 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275290

>>43275158
But they get a physical defeat because they failed to destroy the Enclaves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:31:09 No.43275271 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275262
A year at most.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:32:03 No.43275282 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275411

>>43275255
Because his sword doesn't make him stronger, it just extends his life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:32:09 No.43275284 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275296 >>43275304

Who's next? Imperial Guard, Chaos, or Tyranid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:32:43 No.43275290 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275594

>>43275268
Just wait 50 years, or exploit the Tau's biological weaknesses. The flesh will fail.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:33:12 No.43275296 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275284
Nids are more likely to get the next release after 30k stuff due to rumours about them airing recently.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:33:44 No.43275304 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275594

>>43275284
Chaos. Then IG during January/Febuary, then Nids.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:35:06 No.43275320 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275359 >>43275599

>>43275021
>The core decurion formation giving out ignores cover like candy

The what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:36:55 No.43275343 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275355 >>43275519 >>43275580

>>43275226
Proof of what?
And why a chicken? What does that have to do with proof?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:36:57 No.43275344 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275117
>No shit, it's still a terrible song that didn't fit the trailer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:37:50 No.43275355 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275343
Check two threads ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:37:54 No.43275358 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43273978
Well, considering the fact that you pay a grand total of 6pts for a droneport once you subtract the MSU drone unit, it's a bargain, really.
6pts for super-Relentless, a constant 4+ cover save and rerolling to-hit rolls of 1s? I'm seriously considering this bastard for my marines, even though I can't use the drones, it's just that good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:38:01 No.43275359 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275393 >>43275599

>>43275320

The Tau Hunter Cadre lets you have multiple units target the same unit for shooting and count as 1 unit doing it, so if you spend 2 markerlight tokens to Ignore Cover, every unit shooting in the combined attack get it, while it would normally cost 2 per unit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:40:57 No.43275393 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275414

>>43275359
Yeah but he was talking about space marines. If Tau are the answer to Tau what good it is for them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:42:42 No.43275411 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275282
It would have been a convenient justification for giving him Eternal Warrior, which he *really* needs, especially now that his bodyguard gimmick is done by all crisis suits, except better.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:43:01 No.43275414 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275393

Ah, will teach me to not read through every response

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:49:09 No.43275519 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Reminder to all:
Running tally of anon's proofs: 0
That is all
>>43275343
Don't listen to other anon, proofless one has not posted so no need to ask for proofs. Yet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:54:11 No.43275580 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275343
Just some anons being retarded.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:55:26 No.43275594 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275635

>>43275021
marines or daemons? rush them. i got a bunch of hounds and other daemons to flood the board, though that usually doesn't work.

>>43275290
i wonder what the necrons or admech think about the iron hands fetish for robo parts

>>43275304
i think we're suppose to get the 30k plastic kit next. chaos is likely but that's gonna be a big release since daemons also means marines will get updated, then you got daemonkind and age of sigmar to consider as well.

>>43275117
personally i wish dark angels would go back to their native influences
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ckR822Wu4k

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:55:49 No.43275599 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275761

>>43275320
>>43275359
The new core space marine formation for their decurion detatchment, pic related

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:58:21 No.43275632 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275716 >>43275726

>Currently converting some of my 50 or so rhino chassis to look more Deimos-y for 30k
>Tax rebate out of nowhere
>Rumoured 7th November release date for plastic HH
Not even bothered about the fact all the obnoxious Taufags will start turning up in store again soon

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:58:34 No.43275635 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275726 >>43275737 >>43281239

>>43275594
>marines or daemons?
both, unless you play Slaanesh.

Noise marines and sonic dreads and literally the only ignores cover shooting chaos get save for divination spam or superheavies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:59:03 No.43275643 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275676 >>43275686 >>43275726

>>43274025
Oh c'mon!
How is that even fair?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:02:14 No.43275676 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275737

>>43275643
40k has long since passed being fair.
We full retard now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:02:42 No.43275680 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274025
>The Tau still kicked their ass
doh ho ho

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:03:00 No.43275686 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275737 >>43275743 >>43277612

>>43275643

Flat 20 points for giving Ignores Cover on any non-vehicle marine unit, or hell: Any non-vehicle non Monstrous Creature Imperial unit of your choice?

Yep, horsepoop.

But I mean, fuck it. Fuck everything, we're already well into the territory of having to find out mid-game your opponent took broken horseshit or is trying to use an asshole rule interpretation. Why the fuck not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:05:03 No.43275716 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275947

>>43275632
>Rumoured 7th November release date for plastic HH
For what I heard, we won't be getting anything more than the stuff that was leaked. Don't get your hopes up

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:05:29 No.43275723 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277670

So I'm currently building up my Khorne Daemonkin army and I've hit a wall. Where are my specializations? I mean is it a viable tactic to main a fucking shit-ton of cultists and renegades and use the blood-tithe as the tool to get daemons out or is it better to main CSM and 'zerkers and get more kills or cut the middle man out and rely on daemons?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:05:33 No.43275726 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275947

>>43275632
>50 rhinos
w-why do you have so many rhinos anon?

>>43275643
because fuck nurgle daemons, dark eldar, and all those other cover loving dudes?

>>43275635
oddly enough my daemons are mostly slaanesh, but my marines are mostly tzeentch with some old plagues i haven't touched in years

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:06:06 No.43275734 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Epub converter anon here
12 hours later and I still can't get a decent looking file converted, the text is always formatted wrong. Haven't have trouble converting them before.

I'll keep trying, but don't expect it any time soon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:06:13 No.43275736 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Incidentally, I've read the page with the Taucurion benefit now, and if you try to abuse it to cross unit-wide rules across multiple units with that instead of just taking your +1 BS and Marker sharing and being happy, you're a cunt.

A cunt with a valid read of the RAW, but a cunt nonetheless. No way they meant to intentionaly let you buffmander an entire 2000 point gunline the casual tone they write in nowadays.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:06:17 No.43275737 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275764 >>43276240

>>43275635
>>43275676
>>43275686
I'm fucking pissed. I have a Noise Marine army.
I converted every single fucker, bought a Sonic Dread, collect a serious amount of soldiers to have that fucking Ignore Cover.
And now, every single fucker can have it, with every weapons they want, with a couple of scouts and/or a 20 points relic? Seriously?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:06:47 No.43275743 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275686
To be entirely fair, it's +20 on top of the HQ you're giving it to. All of whom are optimized for CQC and end up being an expensive tax if they're just babysitting some heavy weapons in the backfield.

Which is why you put it on a conclave librarian for maximum Balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:07:27 No.43275748 Report Delete

Quoted By:

same here, I am 4 hours in and no luck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:08:22 No.43275761 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275793 >>43277478

>>43275599
Dude it's ignore cover for three tacticals and one unit of devastators. Not really dangerous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:08:34 No.43275764 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275805 >>43280961

>>43275737

>CSM army

That was your first mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:10:52 No.43275793 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275813 >>43275821 >>43275842

>>43275761
>Lascannons or grav-cannons with amps and ignore cover aren't dangerous

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:12:17 No.43275805 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275764
I know, but how was i suppose to know?
I started as soon as the last codex came out. How we could have guessed that the second most popular faction would have become the fucking joke of 40k?
I don't need an OP army, but goddamit, i had one thing. One fucking thing, to Ignore Cover, and now it's fucking useless because everyone can have it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:12:57 No.43275813 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275793
>Grav-devs
>dangerous
All they're good for are weak alpha in a pod and they're too fragile to justify the cost that entails. Cents are just better and oh look you can't take Cents in that formation.

Hilariously a Tidewall could well do wonders for grav-devs. Relentless while moving to counter the short range and 4+ cover for days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:13:37 No.43275821 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275793
A single unit of them? For which you have to take three tactical units, one assault squad, and multiple scouts squad? Without relentless or any way to move?

No, not really scary. You could have just taken the relic and be done for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:15:03 No.43275835 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275865

>>43274950
>>43274746
The optimised stealth cadre is 2 stealth suit squads (the 'tax' as it were) and a ghostkeel squadron. The ghostkeel(s) always ignores cover, get +1 BS, and always hit rear vechicle armor. These buffs are passed onto nearby stealth suit squads, not that this really matters. Also, full squads of ghostkeel get an additional +1BS, so with 3 cyclic ion rakers (superior to blast melta) you're looking at 18 autocannon equivalent shots that hit on 2+ and ignore cover WITHOUT markerlight support. Against rear armor, that means you're FUCKED. Even fliers get rekt by such a volume of fire, and then there's always the option of buying optional skyfire + splitfire at 25pts per model.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:15:18 No.43275842 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281020

>>43275793
Well it is just one unit, which will get shot to shit the next turn.

Why does everything in 40k boil down to one-turn-and-then-die units? Is it because everything that isn't is regarded as cheese?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:16:41 No.43275865 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275921 >>43275928

>>43275835
>"tax"
Stealth squads are fucking good, to hell with the morons who can't play them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:17:28 No.43275878 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43273618
They're Troops

Nothing really changed

Min size 5 for 45pts, can take more at 9pts each, get a drone turret with an SMS or Missile Pod for 10pts, the Guardian Shield drone for 15pts

Other than that same upgrades as regular FW (Shas'Ui, Devilfish, etc)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:17:39 No.43275879 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275021
>no ignores cover shooting of any repute
BLASTMASTERS ARE BACK!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:17:46 No.43275881 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275934

>>43275025
people complain about the tau being so good at shooting other armies to death before they can close to melee, letting all their dudes escape from assault would just be insult to injury.

also, tau infantry would have to actually survive the combat phase to use them, right? and that very seldom happens. ;p

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:21:15 No.43275921 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275941

>>43275865
hence why the tax was in quotes you moron the guy was suggesting thats not really a detriment, oh no I need two stealth squads to take a ghostkeel unit and have it be a giant box of rape what a travesty that is

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:21:26 No.43275926 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275978 >>43275994 >>43276056

>anyone with access to the drone section can take any drone

So this means Fire Teams can take accelerators, and same with stealth teams?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:21:31 No.43275928 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275865
>Stealth squads are fucking good, to hell with the morons who can't play them.
I personally dislike them because I think crisis squads are
A) More points efficient
B) Fun (to equip with neat loadouts, like solo suit with onager gauntlet or 5+ double flamers)

But stealth suits are tougher and have much cooler models, so there's that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:21:48 No.43275934 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276043

>>43275881
You'd be surprised. In the dark days of early 6th I used to run bundles of footslogging FWs and they were surprisingly resilient to assault. Once a broken squad of five faced down a chainaxe-wielding Nurgle Lord and not only didn't die, but tied him up for the rest of the game, wounding him twice.

The last time I used them a squad of 12 got assaulted by a Knight that had popped their Fish. It killed two and then died like a fucking bitch to EMP grenades. Felt good. Of course the explosion took out half the survivors but they aced their morale and kept on going.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:22:01 No.43275941 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275921
Allow me my indignation

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:22:32 No.43275947 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275716
If we get what was expected in the leak(mkIV/capatphractii/contemptor) I'll be more than happy

>>43275726
>w-why do you have so many rhinos anon?
Why don't you?

It's mostly because I have a ton of different marine armies (at last count I had IH/SW/GK/BA/DA/BT)
Rhinos are popular, so it's easy as fuck to get them cheap off ebay. Then I bitz order spare parts/turrets so I can field them as other variants. When 7th edition dropped I bought half a dozen to use my old air defence launchers on so I could field 2 squadrons of whirlwinds if I need to.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:22:33 No.43275948 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275981 >>43276039 >>43276052 >>43276070 >>43276755

So, what's the use of the Coldstar?

>Flying Monstruous Creature without Fear, Smash, or Vector Strike special rules.
>High output burst cannon 18" 5 5 Assault 6 Twin-linked.
>Missile Pod.

Is it intended to command flying formations or to be a drone carrier? Because this thing can get instankill easily with so low T.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:23:48 No.43275964 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43275984 >>43275995

>>43273943
>>43274262
Is the wall thing just an aegis defense line?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:24:33 No.43275978 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276075

>>43275926
No. Because GW are dumb, some drones are in the drone list but not all. The missile drone is in the list but has a "broadside only" footnote, while every other exclusive drone type are in their unit entries. The only difference from last 'dex otherwise is that Guardian Drones are in the list and can be taken by both kinds of fire warrior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:24:41 No.43275981 Report Delete

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>>43275948
It's real fast and puts out a high volume of shots. It belongs in very mobile, very fast army lists, it can get around the board easily so it doesn't have to deep strike.
Combine it with the Y'Vahra.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:24:56 No.43275984 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275964

It moves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:25:38 No.43275994 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276018 >>43276029

>>43275926
We dont have the army list or wargear list yet

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:25:44 No.43275995 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275964
It moves, it gives shooting bonuses to Tau, and it can cause auto wounds/glaces from successful cover saves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:26:53 No.43276018 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276064

>>43275994
Yes we do

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:27:06 No.43276024 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276070 >>43276099

tau arent inherently op its just the fucking players that are such douche bags.

if they played with majority infantry with a ethernal and 1 or two mek /suit teams they would be fine.

but every single player is "100 point game? better bring 2 fucking riptides"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:27:28 No.43276029 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276064

>>43275994
Dude, we have the entire freaking dex

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:27:50 No.43276037 Report Delete

Quoted By:

/tg/ could you remind me what the rules are for an independent charecter joining a unit?
I can't seem to find it in the rulebook

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:27:56 No.43276039 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275948
It's trash
60 is way too much for what it does and HOBC should be rending to pair better with MP

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:28:06 No.43276042 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275117
Maybe your the shit one

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:28:06 No.43276043 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276123

>>43275934
The real melee MVP's are crisis bodyguards though. 4 s5 attacks each on the charge isn't too shabby, even if at ws2.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:28:33 No.43276052 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275948
>force grounding test on coldstar
>instakilled by S9 hard landing
>yfw

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:28:55 No.43276056 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276116

>>43275926
Oh man is this legit? That's pretty fucking OP.
Give them to breacher squads to make them slightly less shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:29:17 No.43276064 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276096 >>43276130

>>43276029
>>43276018
Post it The fuck up then faggots
For all we know niggas could be lying

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:29:46 No.43276070 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275948
flying threat with lots of guns, but yeah it's likely to get killed in the air easily. i think it's also t4 right? 1 s9 grounding check means instant death

>>43276024
>tau aren't inherently OP
>book that came out with tons of buffs
>ignore cover out the ass

anon...

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:30:00 No.43276075 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276139

>>43275978
As far as i can tell only the Broadside drones have Broadside-only

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:31:05 No.43276096 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276064
Check old threads, we have it in epub but I can't make a decent pdf converstion atm...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:31:16 No.43276099 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276024
What do you think of crisis suits, balance-wise?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:32:04 No.43276116 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276138 >>43276319 >>43277475

>>43276056
I think the breachers are just fine how they are. I haven't playtested the fuck out of them yet, though

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:32:24 No.43276123 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276191 >>43277531

>>43276043
Oh yeah. Once had a buffmander running around with a couple of those that assaulted some pre-7th Wraithguard out of desperation. The bodyguards went down in the second round but they enabled the commander to clean up the entire squad somehow. At about the same time my Riptide beat his Spiritseer in combat (though it had taken 3 rounds to do that).

I think it was after that game that I decided to go full Farsight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:32:31 No.43276129 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276489

Fuck me. I believed that Pathfinders had infiltrate. I have been playing them wrong. Fortunately, I deployed them like twice, and both times I lost.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:32:37 No.43276130 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276064
http://www53.zippyshare.com/v/dkbB4Se3/file.html#

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:33:19 No.43276138 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276116
range it too short, that's my only complaint.
It's funny that their sprue has a hand with a pulse pistol because for one, they don't get pulse pistols, and the pistole actually has more reliable range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:33:27 No.43276139 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276165 >>43276249

>>43276075
The drones section in the wargear list only has Gun, Shield, Marker, Missile, and Guardian drones. And the last two are restricted to broadsides and fire warriors respectively.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:34:58 No.43276158 Report Delete

Quoted By:

The use for the Coldstar is to buy it as a second Commander, then equip him with two missile pods and two High Yield Burst Cannons and now he's a display model because you gave him illegal equipment.

But hey: Flashy pricier Space Crisis for Deep Space Ops, which is what Coldstars are meant to be.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:35:21 No.43276165 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276139
nuts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:37:06 No.43276191 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276221

>>43276123
>I think it was after that game that I decided to go full Farsight.
Is the supplement still legal? I'll happily forego the "taucurion" to exchange firewankers for 1x3 + 5x1 crisis suits. Speaking of farsight, if I recall correctly he could increase WS and I of all battlesuits in his army at a cost back in 3rd right?

>At about the same time my Riptide beat his Spiritseer in combat (though it had taken 3 rounds to do that).
Gonna be even better with the ghostkeels now. 3 of them is a decent amount of Smash.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:37:56 No.43276200 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276258 >>43276629 >>43277829 >>43279993

/tg/ what would be the best imperium non-veichle/monstrous creature unit to give ignores cover to?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:39:18 No.43276221 Report Delete

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>>43276191

Much of the old army hasn't change beyond new formations, changes in the size of squad and a rule or two.

By the way, Devilfishes are now Fast Attack.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:41:14 No.43276240 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275737
Just started building Mono Slaanesh, wishing for Slaanesh daemonkin but doubt we will have fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:41:38 No.43276249 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276266

>>43276139
Fuck. So that also means Accelerator drones can only be taken by pathfinder teams. Useless

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:42:11 No.43276256 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276348 >>43276397 >>43280473

Will Slaanesh get the axe like it in Age of Sigmar?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:42:24 No.43276258 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276372

>>43276200

Devs, Centurion Devs, Combi-Weapon Sternguard, Jokaero, pretty much anything with a large number of high AP weapons to pretty much deny anything that's not Invul.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:42:39 No.43276261 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276287

>>43273745
That doesn't sound right, because I recall the line "don't measure distances, we are assuming they run in, and the fire forces them back again in case the charge fails" or something to that effect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:43:00 No.43276266 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276346 >>43276370

>>43276249
You can still share their bonus with the Taucurion

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:44:01 No.43276287 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277685

>>43276261
that's for the Wall of fire rules. It only apply to templates overwatching.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:44:05 No.43276289 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276336 >>43276373 >>43277222

For all wondering about the exact changes between the 6th edition dex and the new one, Kauyon actually provides a handy list.
Yes, those are all the changes.
Also, the codex does not even provide the rules for the Tiedewall. There is literally no point to buying the codex, Kauyon is just outright superior.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:45:42 No.43276319 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276350

>>43276116
Breacher relay should do something other than mesh with guard drone and they aren't that different from fire warriors to justify being a separate unit
And ofc Guns need fixing

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:46:57 No.43276336 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276289
>No TL AFP or CIB
>Can still take two of either
okay well I'll just fuck your shit up fam

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:47:24 No.43276346 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276266
Are we really sure special rules stack when units join their shooting though?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:47:30 No.43276348 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276256
I want to say no because of how much Slaanesh influenced 40k. Eldar are in a shitty spot because of their blood orgy that spawned Slaanesh but I don't know.

I thought about maybe they will remove it because it's too rapey but dark eldar still exist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:47:37 No.43276350 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276439

>>43276319
Their entry is different enough\
they have the special rule to get the full 5++ and they also have completely different weapons, with completely different tactics

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:48:58 No.43276370 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276474

>>43276266
What is the Taucurion? I don't see anything with combining fire in the dex i have. Only broadsides and Riptides can do it

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:49:00 No.43276372 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276396

>>43276258
>Centurion Devs
Oh that is a good one. Now I know what unit my warlord with the hunter's eye relic will be joining.
Though I may go and see if any of the skitarii could benefit from that inetter than the devs can.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:49:03 No.43276373 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276457

>>43276289
>TY7 Devilfish are fast attack
for what purpose?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:50:20 No.43276396 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276372

Of course, forgot Skitarii and CultMech, Plasma Caliver Vanguards and Plasma Culverin Destroyer Servitors could benefit too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:50:26 No.43276397 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276256
slaanesh is just missing, age of sigmar is building a story. the sigmarines fighting back against chaos/khorne after getting their asses beat for thousands of years is just part 1. part 2 might be about the now holy ghost lizardmen

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:50:51 No.43276403 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276426 >>43276457

Is it true that GW is getting rid of Dedicated Transports and moving them to Fast Attack? Why is that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:51:29 No.43276417 Report Delete

Quoted By:

So, I'm building a Ordo Xeno list for my local store,
Rate my list. Uhhh apologies ahead of time, I took this down while I was on a plane ride and was bored so it's a tad unorganized
=][=++Ordo Xeno++ =][=

Ordo Xeno inquisitor 25 points
Psyker level 1 30 point
Force sword 0 points
Power armour 8 points
Rad grenades 15 points
Digital weapons 5 points
Plasma pistol 10 points ( or conversation beam 45 points )
3 servo skulls 9 points
Inquisition relic ( tome of vethric ) 20 points

Total points 121 ( or 151 )

Inquisitor's warband
9 warrior acolytes with carapace armor And storm bolters 101 points
2 Jericho weaponsmiths 70 points
1 psyker level 1 10 points
With landraider 250 points.

Total points 552 ( or 582 )

Warband 2
9 warrior acolytes with carapace armor And storm bolters 101 points
2 Jericho weaponsmiths 70 points
1 psyker level 1 10 points
With Chimera 55 points

Total 235 points

Warband 3
12 warrior acolytes with carapace armor And storm bolters 132points
4 acolytes with Melta bombs 20 points.
With Valkyrie 125 points

Total 277

Ordo Xeno Total 1,065 (or 1,105 points)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:52:02 No.43276426 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276403
No, that's not true. Read your codex.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:52:50 No.43276439 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276350
If they had like a improved overwatch shooting rule (cause of their massive fancy helmets) they'd be different enough

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:54:19 No.43276457 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276662

>>43276373
For the same reason drop pods are. So you can take them without them being Dedicated.

>>43276403
No. They get the FA slot on their own, so you can take them without a parent unit, or you can still take them as DT for the appropriate units.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:55:29 No.43276474 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276529

>>43276370
At least try to have a look around before asking like a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:56:17 No.43276489 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277604

>>43276129
just noticed that last night too, pretty much makes them useless

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:58:34 No.43276529 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276474
>If I want to use my Remora drones I'll have to fill out a standard FOC
nuts

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:58:35 No.43276531 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278102 >>43278136

RIP mech guard, killed by auto hitting rear armour

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 12:58:38 No.43276532 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276562 >>43276640

I don't understand the rule of Dedicated Transport. Can they carry other units besides the one they were deployed with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:00:25 No.43276562 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276662

>>43276532
Other units cannot deploy inside the transport, but they can embark on it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:00:54 No.43276575 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276796

do you still get free slot bodyguards if you take a commander?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:04:29 No.43276629 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276200

A unit containing Saint Celestine and Nork Deddog, duh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:05:48 No.43276640 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276662

>>43276532
What the other guy said. The most important benefit of dedicated transports is that they can get objective secured if taken by a unit that has it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:06:29 No.43276651 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Hey guys. Been stomping too much face with Ravenwing and I'm thinking of trying to run the battle company to be less OP with my friends. Question is, should I go all drop pod, or MSU razorspam for the tacticals?

Any other advice is appreciated. I will probably be giving tacs plasma spam and vet sargeants with power swords to try and gimp myself a bit.

Also thinking of running Ezekiel, Chaplain, Company Master and Azrael with Command Squad in a Land Raider and Techmarine for a weaker deathstar approach that is still fluffy.

TIA 1250-1850 points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:07:29 No.43276662 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276698 >>43276704 >>43276706

>>43276640
>>43276562
>>43276457

So, what's the point of bringing them alone then?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:09:33 No.43276698 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276759

>>43276662
You can put inside them units that can't take them as a dedicated transport.

See Centurions in drop pods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:10:05 No.43276704 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276759

>>43276662

You can leave them behind to hold an objective and drop pods are pretty difficult to destroy with small arms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:10:20 No.43276706 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276759

>>43276662
So you can deploy units from an allied detachment in a transport of your own.

Or if you want to put a unit in a type of transport it can't take as a dedicated choice, like tacticals in a landraider.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:14:16 No.43276755 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275948
i would guess it's for a secondary commander who zips around, nabs objectives later int he game, shoots a lot, and draws an awful lot of fire because of what he is. i'd put a few systems on him to make him a bit durable, but otherwise use him as a mobile annoyance platform to draw fire and move real fast across the board.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:14:24 No.43276759 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276816

>>43276698
>>43276704
>>43276706

So, is this a force organization tax for when you want to deploy unorthodox embarked unit in a transport?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:17:22 No.43276796 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276575
As far as I can tell, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:18:25 No.43276816 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276759

I guess that is one way to look at it, but the force org doesn't really matter any more in the age of formations, dataslates, etc.

The Angry Tech Priest

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The Angry Tech Priest Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:18:55 No.43276822 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276848 >>43277209 >>43277982

Which chapter is summed up nicely with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:20:24 No.43276848 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276871

>>43276822
Iron Warriors vs the Imperial Fists

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:21:50 No.43276871 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276848
Wouldn't that just be the Iron Cage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:28:01 No.43276963 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43276988 >>43277021

So do the NotDeathwing and NotRavenwing of the Dark Angels successor chapters have different colour schemes compared to NotGreenwing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:28:54 No.43276988 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276963
I think they'd copy their parent chapter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:31:01 No.43277021 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276963
The successors use their own colour schemes. The DW and RW are dark angels specific. Angels of Absolution canonically have sternguard even.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:31:58 No.43277039 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277058 >>43277091 >>43277125 >>43277209

How long before the Dark Angels are declared heretical for covert legion-building and the whole business with the Fallen?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:33:02 No.43277058 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277209

>>43277039
Until never. They're loyal as loyal can be.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:34:37 No.43277091 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277129

>>43277039
>Dark Angels are declared heretical for covert legion-building
About the same time Ultramarines are

>business with the Fallen?
About the same time Blood Ravens are

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:36:08 No.43277125 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277039
Never. The inquisition (or at least, the Grey Knights) know about the fallen and how they were created through Luther's envy. They also know that it's wiser to not declare the first ever and MOST LOYAL EVER legion traitorous when they have so many successors that are so tight with their progenitors. It would tear the imperium apart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:36:24 No.43277129 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277196

>>43277091
>About the same time Blood Ravens are
What do the Ravens have to do with this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:40:12 No.43277196 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277241

>>43277129
Both had part of their legion/chapter fall to chaos then the remainder went on mission to skullfuck them to death

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:40:55 No.43277209 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277241

>>43276822
Night Lords probably

>>43277039
Never. As >>43277058 points out DA are fundamentally loyal, despite their occasional team killing dickery.
More importantly the fuck is anyone going to do about it if they get caught legion building? It would take a ridiculously massive force to fight them, and that's assuming you could get someone to try it. There are plenty of other chapters and IG regiments who wouldn't open fire on a first founding chapter like the DA.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:41:37 No.43277222 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276289
So If I get Kauyon I won't also have to get the new codex?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:42:57 No.43277241 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277317

>>43277196
>>43277196
>Both had part of their legion/chapter fall to chaos then the remainder went on mission to skullfuck them to death
The only difference is that the BRs never tried to make Kyras atone for his sins, and were public about their treacherous brothers.
>>43277209
>Night Lords probably
Why Night Lords?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:46:58 No.43277317 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277369

>>43277241
>Why Night Lords?
Because booby traps like that are designed as much for terror and psychological purposes as anything else.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:49:35 No.43277369 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277409

>>43277317
Now I get it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:51:30 No.43277409 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277369
Found the right picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:55:07 No.43277475 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276116
I think they're solid choise for cheap mandatory troops. The gun has poor range, but it's not like that 5 man FW team was doing a lot of damage anyway (5 s5 shots at long range isn't that impressive). Meanwhile even a min-sized Breacher unit is actually a serious threat at close range. Stick them in your lines and they can hurt drop-podding squads or enemy melee units. I'll probably use a 5man breacher squad as one of the 3 mandatory troop units for the Taucurion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:55:21 No.43277478 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277548 >>43277593 >>43278101

>>43275761
>Dude it's ignore cover for three tacticals and one unit of devastators. Not really dangerous.
I'm sorry, what are the stats of the units you were bitching about again?

Oh yeah, one has T3 and 3+ save and the other has T5, 4 wounds and a 3+ save. Tactcicals ignoring cover will rip the shit out of either.

Better yet just take vindicators in squads of 3 and instant death all of the Ghostkeels, along with all the stealth suits assuming they are within 6" for the formation bonus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:58:30 No.43277531 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277658

>>43276123
I once had an Ork Warboss charge at my Buffmander. He had already lost one wounds to shooting (along with the Nob Biker unit he wa sin), and lost one to overwatch. The Commander struck first since the Warboss had a powerclaw, and managed to kill him with the onager gauntlet. I imagine the Ork just careenign towards the Commander on his bike, and the Commander stepping out of the way and punchign him right in the face.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:59:22 No.43277548 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277478
>take vindicators in squads of 3
>Not taking glorious Typhon super tanks
Maximum pleb tbh

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:02:11 No.43277593 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277478
>Better yet just take vindicators in squads of 3 and instant death all of the Ghostkeels
>Using blast against a unit that can use invisibility three times a game
>expecting that those Vindicators will survive the three turns minimun necessary to exhaust the contermeasures

> Tactcicals ignoring cover will rip the shit out of either.
>Only 54 Bolter shots to kill a Ghostkeel
>All three tactical squads are required in rapid fire range and with ignore cover to kill one, not counting the six drones of which they need only 1.

Sure buddy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:02:57 No.43277604 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277968

>>43276489
I've never really had any need to infiltrate PFs. Scout ahs usually been enough if I need them beyong my deployment zone on turn 1. But usually I just deploy them in some cover on my deployment zone and markerligth shit. Markerlights have long enough range that they can usually reach something, and if I infiltrated them near the enemy that'd just get them killed on turn 1.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:03:31 No.43277612 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277829

>>43275686
_Inquisitoral Laser Death star_

Techmarine (White scars), conversion beamer, Hunters eye - 130 points

Inquisitor w/ conversion beamer - 70 points x 5

Put them literally whereas as they are all IC's and spend you're remaining points on keeping everything 48" away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:04:58 No.43277632 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277771

is there a way to reliably convert these epubs into pdf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:06:15 No.43277658 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277531
Wow cool you killed a warboss what a feat!

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:07:16 No.43277670 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277688

>>43275723
>Where are my specializations?
You don't have any, that's why I quite collecting them after the first £100 of models.

Whatever troops you choose your games will play out in the exact same way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:08:29 No.43277685 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277757

>>43276287
So range is a non issue for templates, bit not ordinary weapons with range?

That makes absolutely no sense, neither from a fluff or crunch problem

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:08:36 No.43277688 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277718

>>43277670
Oh. So just spam out 'zerkers then?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:10:29 No.43277718 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277802

>>43277688
No, you can also spam bloodletters or cultists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:12:45 No.43277757 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278357

>>43277685
Think logically about how flamerthrowers work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:12:47 No.43277758 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277802

So are khorne daemonkin competitive? what are their stand out troops?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:13:19 No.43277771 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277827

>>43277632
I've tried several programs and even those online converters. Everything either crashes or the output is formatted horribly. I can't remember the old program I used, or if the file is designed to be difficult.

The best bet is to take the images from an epub reader and splice them together.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:13:44 No.43277779 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277803

Tau codex pdf, p-please?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:15:08 No.43277802 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277908

>>43277758
Daemons. All the daemons. Also they are fairly competitive. Not instant-win level but they can hold their own.

>>43277718
I don't know what I expected with Khorne players.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:15:09 No.43277803 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277832 >>43278142

>>43277779
It's getting done

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:16:15 No.43277827 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278427

>>43277771
fucking GW not letting us to steal their shit

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:16:27 No.43277829 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276200
This >>43277612

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:16:38 No.43277832 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277927

>>43277803
Thank you very much, I appreciate the work.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:21:09 No.43277908 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278107 >>43278108 >>43278807

>>43277802

In terms of daemonkin, can you run soulgrinders, thirsters, heldrakes, maulerfiends and still be competitive?

I'm reading through the codex and it's hard to figure out what the winning strat is. Seems like you just dump all points into the gore pack then blood tithe in princes/thirsters, but that looks boring.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:22:07 No.43277927 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277832
It's getting done, but not by me, is what I should have said.
But the important thing is that it is getting done, by someone who is not me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:22:25 No.43277933 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278019

So, in fluff, do stealth teams are ever used to place/remove explosives and sabotage things, or are they limited to just reconnaissance and ambushes?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:24:04 No.43277968 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43277992

>>43277604
arent Markerlights 36' range? (sorry I havent played Tau in a very long time)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:24:29 No.43277982 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276822
Raptors are really fond of retreating while leaving a metric fuckton of mines.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:24:57 No.43277992 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277968
Yeah, so get them a 12" from the table edge and you should be good to go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:26:35 No.43278019 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277933

>So, in fluff, do stealth teams are ever used to place/remove explosives

Yes.

In Engine of Mork when the Meks were slapping the Tau around with their Bigmek Stompa some XV 25 Stealth Teams planted charges on the foot and damaged it.

They didn't last long as shooting and smoke inside the cramped confines of a Stompa tends to give you away.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:31:12 No.43278101 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277478
>Better yet just take vindicators in squads of 3 and instant death all of the Ghostkeels
The ghostkeels that are immune to blast weapons and hit your rear armor with 18 bs5 str7 shots? Sure bud. No, you can't beat tau at their own game. Roll with master smashkill or a librarius conclave on bikes, tau can't handle deathstars very well. (even if he can negate the bs penalty of invisibility, you're safe from his pieplates which consitute the vast majority of his low ap firepower)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:31:13 No.43278102 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278689

>>43276531
Finally a good way of dealing with a wall of AV14 backed up against the table edge. It was always retarded that you could just back up against an invisible line in the ground, and suddenly, nothing could ever stand behind you, because reasons.

I don't play Tau though, but 3 of my buddies do, in a group of 10, where 4 of them are mech spamming faggots who always make these AV14 lines against the table edge, and drop shit in to cap objectives. Since we never tailor, I'm hoping this will stop IG faggots from doing this, so we can actually start having interesting fights, rather than just bouncing things off a nearly impenetrable wall of heavy fire power, hoping I'll break through, and not get wiped out by tons of templates or thousands of shots.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:31:34 No.43278107 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277908
Yes. Only defilers are pretty much redundant in any list but those are all pretty good builds. The thing is your blood tithe will always pick up the slack if you got the summons there.

Your strats really come down to kill 'em all. Just what do you wanna use to get the kills.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:31:39 No.43278108 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278152 >>43278184

>>43277908

Blood hounds are the only standout model afaik. Whole dex runs into the issue of assault being garbage this edition.

Iv heard good things about the daemon engine formation, 1 scorpion and a bunch of soul grinders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:33:17 No.43278136 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43276531

To be fair there were a lot of other things doing that in long before this arrived.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:33:30 No.43278142 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277803
By who? The only option I see right now is taking the epub version and pulling out jpgs of each page, then combining them.

I might get around do doing that, once I learn how.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:33:58 No.43278152 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278181 >>43278241 >>43278270

>>43278108
KDK actually does pretty well competitively due to how good it is at assaulting and replenishing losses over time.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:35:15 No.43278176 Report Delete

Quoted By:

So I don't have the old tau codex, should I buy Kauyon or the new "remastered" codex?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:35:24 No.43278181 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278204

>>43278152

KDK?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:35:28 No.43278184 Report Delete

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>>43278108

Hell-forged hunting pack.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:36:33 No.43278197 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278554 >>43278602 >>43279641

Does the Tau hovering gunline have you down? Are things looking bad for your marines? Are optimized stealth cadres ruining your day?

Well, battle brothers- step right up! Have I got a deal for you! For a peasly investment of your points and a fast attack slot, I present to you... The Deathwind Drop Pod!

Drop it behind the firewarriors, deny them their saves! Spam barrage blasts or the anus touching assault cannons! Ghostkeel pops invisilibity? No problem! Twin linked BS 1 isn't far removed from twin linked BS 2!

And for the mere price of five installments of 9.95, you also get drop pod assault!

Show those Tau how the space marines hold the line! Order your's today!

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:36:51 No.43278204 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278181
Khorne DaemonKin or KD/KDK

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:38:17 No.43278241 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278152

Do you have any examples of lists that did semi decent in tournies?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:38:19 No.43278242 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278310

So the general KDK tactic is to use multiple small squads and relying on blood tithe to continuously summon more and more new units as the old ones die/kill something?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:39:48 No.43278270 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278641

>>43278152

http://bloodofkittens.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/5th-Horton-Doughton-NovaOpen-2015.pdf

Only guy who ran kdk in nova/lvo and placed. like i said, flesh hounds are the star of the codex.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:40:24 No.43278288 Report Delete

Quoted By:

If Ahriman's warband the Prodigal Sons is just an exiled cabal of sorcerers with no rubric marines, then why does Ahriman make rubric marines troops in the chaos codex?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:41:26 No.43278310 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278448

>>43278242
Pretty much. The old ones shouldn't be dying like flies though, the Blood Tithe can offer some nasty boost to your troops and it means stuff like Zerker's can last reasonably long considering the combat they are in.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:43:18 No.43278357 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277757
Think logically about how a wall of bullets work.

The assumption for template weapons is that, regardless of the charge outcome, the unit is moving forward, so range doesn't matter. At some point, you'll be sucking on that pulse blaster. If the charge fails, it is assumed the unit charged forward, but fell back against the hail of fire coming its way.

I don't see how that assumption should change just because we aren't using a flamer, but actual guns. If it was heavy weapons, sure, but assault 2 weapons? No, they'll be firing like bad while you are charging towards them.

I'd say always take the closest range profile. Otherwise, you are also assuming that a weapon lacking the range, like a pistol on a guy charged from beyond the range of the pistol, wouldn't even get to shoot, because the unit wasn't close enough. That's flat out retarded

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:47:21 No.43278427 Report Delete

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>>43277827
Fuck GW for not providing their digital shit in a proper format. Epub is the worst fucking shit filtype in the world. I'd prefer a txt file any fucking day, even if it meant not having the images. The entire thing looks fucking shit, even on my android tablet AND ipad, and I paid for this shit.

Come on GW, you can't be this shit at everything. Give us a fucking PDF we can buy, instead of this file format whose entire existence is based on being a ridiculously shitty version of PDF.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:48:50 No.43278448 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278501

>>43278310
But considering you have to dump all Blood Tithe points when you use them and summoning takes 5 points minimum, wouldn't you look to store your points and keep the blood flowing?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:52:29 No.43278501 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278448
You'll not always have 5 points to drop is the problem and there is plenty of instances where it'd serve you better to just take the buff and whatever else you can grab.

That's the big bonus, it's flexible, you aren't tied down to always taking option C out ABC. Also summoning Bloodthirster's is truly abusive. The axe of ruin is the best example of that.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:53:26 No.43278525 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278631 >>43278769

Tried throwing together a cheesy as hell 1850 tau list. Commander goes with drone squad and rest of army fires together on their target to share ML tokens. Stealth/crisis suits can start in reserve to assassinate shit or claim objectives.

Thoughts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:54:53 No.43278554 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278595 >>43278644

>>43278197
>Deepstrikable turret
Why has no one thought of this before

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:55:37 No.43278566 Report Delete

Quoted By:

IS there any reason a Khorne Daemonkin player shouldnt be using the Slaughtercult Formation for the Khornes Boon?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:57:06 No.43278595 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278554
Tau has had this for ages now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:57:14 No.43278602 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278197
True, except for the fact that riptides can be (read: will be) fielded in squadrons and will never leave home without Interceptor and ap2 pieplates.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:58:26 No.43278621 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278700 >>43278715

http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/10/gw-latest-big-halloween-reveal.html

This is just one source, anyway, is the "MAJOR" product the HH plastics, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:58:45 No.43278631 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278703

>>43278525
Go full Buffmander. He can't use the weapons with the CnC node, so those are pointlss. Get him the penchip and MSS as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:58:46 No.43278633 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43274156
Is this in the Kauyon book? Do you have to buy every fucking book GW ever publishes to have all unit information? Thats shady as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:58:51 No.43278641 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278935

>>43278270

I wonder why he ran a thirster and didn't run any lords? you'd love to interview these dudes so they could explain why the shit works.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:58:53 No.43278644 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278554
I think everyone thought about that actually

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:01:18 No.43278689 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278102
>Since we never tailor
How would you actually enforce this?

Is there some kind of rule against taking more melta than usual?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:02:14 No.43278700 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278621
>Halloween release
>It's CSM
>The entire new codex is done up like a spoopy 90s horror movie
>New Troop Choice: Skellingtons

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:02:25 No.43278703 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279284

>>43278631
But the penchip and MSS only really benefit larger crisis and broadside squads now that you can't join monstrous creatures. I figured he could help marker drones with C&CN until they're all shot down, and then support the rest of the army with those two bs5 plasma rifles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:02:51 No.43278715 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278823

>>43278621
>BOLS
>source
Seriously anon? The only thing the site does besides click bait is propagate the WAAC player mentality.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:05:49 No.43278769 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278864 >>43280307 >>43280548

>>43278525
That's not cheesey.

HQ: Ethereal - 50 points
Troops: x6 Fire Warriors - 54 points
Troops: x6 Fire Warriors - 54 points
Fast Attack: x3 Tetras- 110 points
Elite: x1 Riptide with Ion Accelerator and Early Warning Over-Ride (Interceptor) and Velocity Tracker (Skyfire) - 210
Elite: x1 Riptide with Advanced Targeting System and Stim Inject - 218
Elite: x1 Riptide with Advanced Targeting System and Stim Inject - 218
Heavy: x1 R'varna Riptide with Stim Inject - 295
Heavy: x1 R'varna Riptide with Stim Inject - 295
Heavy: x1 R'varna Riptide with Stim Inject - 295

Total: 1799.

You could then put 3 Marker Drones in as well. Or drop a Stim-Inject on a R'varna and have 86 points to spend on more drones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:07:27 No.43278807 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43277908
>but that looks boring.
Khorne Daemonkin are boring.

They are an army that revolves around only interacting in 2 of the 4 phases of the game, and even then in not as interesting a way as half of the other armies that can melee.

There were lots of ways they could have been made an interesting and unique army in their own right, most of which would only involve messing with rules and not new models, but GW couldn't be bothered so they are just a really bland force.

To be fair, most of the interesting shit Chaos can take are from FW, and being a new army, they are obviously excluded from taking a lot of options that would make them more viable / interesting to play.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:08:13 No.43278823 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278715
https://www.spikeybits.com/2015/10/new-rumors-horus-heresy-release-date-pricing.html

And we already know HH Plastics are coming out, hence why I said if this is the event.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:09:56 No.43278864 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278988 >>43279699

>>43278769
What does a rvarna do?

Should be unlikely to out-cheese the optimized stealth cadre.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:10:39 No.43278876 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278897 >>43278905 >>43278909 >>43278920 >>43279056

Can someone simply explain what a CAD is?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:11:46 No.43278897 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278956

>>43278876
Combined Arms Detachment, the basic force organisation chart.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:12:00 No.43278905 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278956

>>43278876
Combined Arms Detachment. It's what FOC was (Force Organisation Chart).

1 HQ, 2 Troops mandatory. Add other parts to taste.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:12:07 No.43278909 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278956

>>43278876
Combined Arms Detachment: 1 HQ 2 Troops

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:12:38 No.43278920 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278956

>>43278876
1-2 Hq
2-6 troops
0-3 elites
0-3 fast attack
0-3 heavy support

It's the baseline requirements and limitations for the composition of a "normal" army.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:13:13 No.43278935 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43278981 >>43279062

>>43278641
Lords in KDK are shit, funny enough, because their relics are worse than Codex CSM. In CSM a Lord of a Jugger with Axe of blind fury is a pretty viable - Khorne Daemonkins equivalent of this is garbage as they don't have any daemon weapons.

A bloodthirster with the D on the other hand, can bring some threatening anti-tank (mainly distraction though)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:14:22 No.43278956 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278897
>>43278905
>>43278909
>>43278920
Thanks for thinking for me plebs :^)

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:15:23 No.43278980 Report Delete

Quoted By:

+4 invulnerable save on Ghostkeel and Stormsurge for 50 points. Is it worth it? I guess for the Stormsurge, the answer is yes.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:15:24 No.43278981 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279099

>>43278935
I find the only good Thirster is the 300 point one, the most expensive. The cheapest one has a mediocre loadout (surpassed by the most expensive) and the D-Thirster attacks far too slow and is melee only.

Most expensive one backs up the great statline with more attacks due to dual-wielding specialist weapons, has 2 ranged attacks and more powerful attacks to boot.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:15:47 No.43278988 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279161

>>43278864
http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Rvarna15-1-2014.pdf

T7 W6 base and does more damage against bulkier opponents. Which is useful.

Scatterbikes and stuff will fear it.

It also has a great Nova Reactor boosts. Especially the Haywire aura.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:16:56 No.43279012 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279293

Played my first apocalypse game yesterday. It was basically Tau + Imperium + Eldar vs. Admech + IG. Admech had a Warlord Titan. Tau had tons of suits. When I saw tons I mean ALL THE SUITS.

He had a supremacy suit, a squad of 3 storm surges, 5 Riptides, 5 FW suits, a Farsight deep strike star, etc. etc. etc.

Our side had a Warlord titan, a Warhound, 2 exalted courts (the 5 Knight formation from the Knight book). I was the noob there running IG tanks and a War Convocation (lol). I did basically nothing but kill Tau/Eldar infantry, fire a deathstrike for the first time, and kill Farsight with a melta gun from a squad of IG vets in a chimera. Hilarious game.

SO. Here's the deal. That squad of storm surges had interceptor. Any time something scary came out of a drop pod, they took 12d6 S5 Ap5 shots. Didn't bother placing them when my Skitarii would out of pods. It was super gross. No, it was hilariously gross. What was even more gross was that Warlord titan that was on my side. So Tau had first turn, turn 1 the Supremacy suit and Storm surges do some stuff. Take damage on Warlords' turn 1. They do some more stuff on turn 2. When the Warlord fired again, all of it was gone. Just a huge chunk of the table- gone. Supremacy armor, 3 Storm surges, and other random shit- gone. It was hilarious.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:17:53 No.43279040 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43275117
> metal has always been the 40k soundtrack.
since when. All i've ever heard from 40k videos with music has been orchestral music or people chanting. Stop pushing your shitty music choices onto my hobby

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:18:36 No.43279056 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278876
Canadian Dollar

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:18:48 No.43279062 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279213

>>43278935
>worse

No they're not.

The Axe of Ruin (or whatever it is) you give to a basic Lord. Get 7 Blood Tokens and cast Apothesis on him. The Lord is removed from play. Due to the axe he has, a Bloodthirster is summoned to the table.

However, the Lord is replaced also with a Daemon Prince, who has the same equipment, including Relics, as the Lord. Meaning you now have a DP with the Axe, meaning if it's removed, ANOTHER Bloodthirster is summoned.

The Sword which doubles BT gain on a Chariot Herald or Lord on Jug can net you quick BT points.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:20:52 No.43279099 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279123 >>43279771

>>43278981
D-Thirster isn't to fuck with units that are good in melee though, you have the entirety of the rest of your army for that.

The D-thirster is to deal with those ridiculously tough units that you can't otherwise deal with because you have good shooting - Knights, Ranged Wraithknights, huge Tau things are things you can't really deal with in either melee or ranged with the rest of your army, but the D-thirster can tear them a new arsehole in melee.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:21:54 No.43279123 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43279099
because you have no good shooting* meant to say.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:23:18 No.43279161 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279294 >>43279549

>>43278988
Just reading that Cluster Fire rule gave me cancer, and I play Tau

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:25:49 No.43279213 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43279062
The Axe of Ruin doesn't make the Lord good in Melee though, it just unintentionally makes mutiple bloodthirsters which clearly isn't RAI and i'm surprised they haven't erreta'd it yet.

>The Sword which doubles BT gain on a Chariot Herald or Lord on Jug can net you quick BT points.

The sword is good if you don't expect to face any unit's that are actually good in melee because it is only a powersword, against anything half-decent in melee it sucks arse.

There's no argueing around it. Compared to their respective dex's KDK HQ's aren't nearly as good in actual melee combat.

Heralds lost their 10 point axes of Khorne and now can't take ANY upgrades and Chaos Lords lost Axe of Blind Fury and now have to pay an extra 10 points for a juggernaut.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:29:07 No.43279284 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43278703
Note the hunter contingent special rule. When combinign fire, all the models shoot as if they're one unit. MSS, CnC node and tank/monsterhunter from the chip affect the whole unit. That means your whole army can benefit from them.

Of course, for that reason sticking the commande rin markerdrones is actually a bad idea. In order to benefit from the buffs, the other units have to shoot as one unit, so they won't benefit from the markerlight. Stick him in a Broadside unit or something. Drop one Ripitide if you need the points to get a full 3man unit, getting the entire army tank/monsterhunter, rerolls to hit and twinlinked is worth it (and Broadsides are good on their own so it's hardly a waste).

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:29:40 No.43279293 Report Delete

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>>43279012
Don't fuck with a warlord titan unless you have a warlord titan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:29:46 No.43279294 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279508 >>43279621 >>43279931 >>43280548

>>43279161
Which is why I said it's more cheesy.

It'll #rekt pretty much anything. The bulkier the better!

You can also shoot the gun twice with Nova charge, sure it stops working next turn, but you'll have removed potential threats easily. 5" blast will remove Scatterbikes.

Want MORE cheese?

http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/resources/PDF/Datasheets/Tau-XV109.pdf

You can run a Battleforged army of

x3 Riptides with Stim (Elite)
x3 R'varna Riptides with Stim (Heavy)
x3 Y'vahra Riptides with Stim (FA)

Enjoy raping everything.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:30:42 No.43279318 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279621

Played a dark angels vs khorne demonkin match using bikes as proxy landspeeders, SO MUCH DAKKA. anybody have good experience with landspeeders?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:38:49 No.43279468 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279752

>>43273292
>Apart from "don't", what's good advice for starting orks?

BATTLEWAGONS BLITZ

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:40:32 No.43279508 Report Delete

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>>43279294
>Enjoy raping everything
So are necrons not a thing in your world or what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:41:47 No.43279534 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279653

double ion on crisis suits or ion+missile pod? the missile pod gains double the range but i lose 1 shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:42:25 No.43279549 Report Delete

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>>43279161
The blasts used to be AP3. I can't believe that people still think that was okay...

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:46:42 No.43279621 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43279294
All that shit is obviously strong as heck, but I still think the stealth cadre is more bonkers.

If you wanted to go all out with FW cheese, why not include the Ta'unar?

>>43279318
Best landspeeder is the Storm by far, with combi-melta/grav carrying scouts imho. They can scout into first turn multi-melta range after infiltrating and they're also objective secured.

Normal landspeeders are best as deepstrikers imho.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:47:58 No.43279641 Report Delete

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>>43278197
>Have interceptor on most of my army
Step up, Gue'la.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:48:41 No.43279653 Report Delete

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>>43279534
Unless you're going all out with crisis suits, I'd say neither. They're your number one source of massed plasma or melta. Between ion and pod though I'd choose the latter and jump out of cover/shoot/jump back at long range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:51:14 No.43279699 Report Delete

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>>43278864
It's a tougher but flightless Riptide that's meant to buttfuck hordes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:53:45 No.43279751 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279832 >>43279846

So just finished my necron army and notice how no one playa tau at my flgs.

Whats a good start and yes call me weeb space trash to base off of nobunaga

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:53:47 No.43279752 Report Delete

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>>43279468
What's a good way to outfit nobz/meganobz, given with the congestion in heavy support for orks it may be simpler to unlock them that way. Just gear them for melee and go for it?

Also, are battlewagons with killcannons and ard cases any good?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:54:30 No.43279771 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279888 >>43280115

>>43279099
On average rolls, D-thirster gets reamed in the anus by knights and wraithknights.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:57:34 No.43279832 Report Delete

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>>43279751
>just finsihed a 'cron army
>wants to start a tau one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:58:36 No.43279846 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279897

>>43279751
Do you want to be
A) highly mobile
B) have a strong gun line
and also do you want infantry and vehicles with a unit or two of suits, or just a shitload of robots?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:00:12 No.43279888 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43279959

>>43279771
>On average rolls, D-thirster gets reamed in the anus by knights
>3 attacks, hitting on 5+
>1 hit, 1/6 chance to do nothing or kill it out right
>d3 wounds won't be enought to kill it and the Thirster gets a 5++
The point is, unless the Knight rolls good, the D-Thirster will fucking wreck it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:00:27 No.43279897 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280067

>>43279846
Low model count and the phrase "chucking dice"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:01:55 No.43279931 Report Delete

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>>43279294
Fire 1 Str6 Ap3 Torrent or Fire 2 Str6 AP2 Torrents.
How is this balanced, should the 2 Torrents not have less Ap than a concentrated torrent??

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:03:19 No.43279959 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280014 >>43280966

>>43279888
Knights also get a Stomp attack hitting simul with the D-thirster and if they die they will usually take the thirster with them in the explosion.

But I might have been wrong about the "average rolls" part, I think that's only wraithknights.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:04:58 No.43279993 Report Delete

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>>43276200
A battery of Earthshaker/ Medusa Artillery Carriages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:06:12 No.43280014 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43279959
>Knights also get a Stomp attack hitting simul with the D-thirster and if they die they will usually take the thirster with them in the explosion.
Very true, but which one costs more? Even in death, the D-Thirster has a pretty good chance of being victorious

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:09:02 No.43280067 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280127 >>43280305

>>43279897
All right. I'd start out with 20 kroot, a commander, a ghostkeel and some crisis suits. Kroot are more fun and versatile than firewarriors in my opinion. The number one "dice chucker" is the stormsurge, but it's for larger games. Second in line are either fuckhuge crisis squads or a full piranha squadron - 5 of them cost 200pts and spit out 40 s5 shots. Deducting the cost of their drones, they're seriously 18pt fast skimmers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:11:38 No.43280115 Report Delete

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>>43279771
>knights and wraithknights.
Not really, a D-thirster will kill either assuming it survives to get into combat.

And I said in my post the ranged wraithknight.

No one even takes the melee one.

That said, if the wraithknight shoots his big D at the thirster he's fucked, but with a KDK Gorepack army you'll probably be counting on tying the Knight up in melee way before you're thirster reaches him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:12:12 No.43280127 Report Delete

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>>43280067
>18pt
Sorry I mean 16 or 12 pts, depending on which source of drones one is comparing to. They can even unload all their drones to form a unit of their own.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:17:46 No.43280242 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280281 >>43280302 >>43280456

How many points before you start considering bringing cheese to a list?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:19:44 No.43280281 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43280242

Always bring cheese. 24/7/366

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:20:45 No.43280302 Report Delete

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>>43280242
1500 personally but I play with friends, 1250 in tournaments if I had any I could play in

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:20:51 No.43280305 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280743

>>43280067
Are minimum fire warrior squads not in line with mobility or low model count?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:20:53 No.43280307 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280577

>>43278769
Aren't Tetras 50 pts?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:21:09 No.43280311 Report Delete

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>>43274143

Oh fuck off. Tau weren't even as good as SM before SM got their horse shit codex. The new Tau codex then changed absolutely fuck all aside from compile previous books.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:27:36 No.43280443 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280472

So can coldstar take iridium armor?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:28:12 No.43280456 Report Delete

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>>43280242
I never focus on cheese, but some of the units/formations I like and are fluffy for me ARE sorta-cheese.

Mostly 'Crons. A Lychguard/Overlord squad with shields and a Nightscythe (killy power is fairly mediocre, but they don't ever fucking die) and a Conclave of the Burning one with a God-Shackle (T8, 4+ RP, 5+ FnP, multiple wounds, can take cryptek equipment for more shenanigans).

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:28:50 No.43280472 Report Delete

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>>43280443

Unless FAQ says something, no.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:28:53 No.43280473 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281164

>>43276256
Yes. The Tau already killed him. He'll be removed next edition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:32:44 No.43280548 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280720

>>43278769
>>43279294
Rvarna is unique. Can only have one

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:33:48 No.43280577 Report Delete

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>>43280307
Updated to 35p from last IA, but got 2 twin linked marklight, insted of heavy 4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:38:38 No.43280671 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280717 >>43280738

So, since the Crisis Bodyguards are now their own choice, is it possible to attach them to a Fireblade who is also attached to a FW squad?

Make a little IG-like infantry squad with a "heavy weapons team"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:41:19 No.43280717 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280780

>>43280671
Nope. They are just a unit like any other. Fireblade can join them if he wishes to get the Look out, Sir! bonus if you really want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:41:22 No.43280720 Report Delete

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>>43280548
>Rvarna is unique
No it isn't. Its a normal MC, nothing more, nothing less

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:42:17 No.43280738 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280780

>>43280671
no, they're not wargear like drones or wolves for the wolf lords when joining thunderwolves

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:42:31 No.43280743 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280848

>>43280305
A minimum fw squad costs 15pt less than a minimum kroot squad, and it will do a hell of a lot less. Firewarriors are best when supported by ethereals and taken in large numbers, but that's contrary to your goal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:44:21 No.43280780 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280796

>>43280738
>>43280717
Bugger. Might run my single Crisis Suit as a Coldstar then. Give it a few modifications.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:45:28 No.43280796 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280858

>>43280780
If you are using him as a Commander then he can join a unit if that helps at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:48:35 No.43280848 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43280743
I see. I might as well play farsight and friends lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:48:49 No.43280858 Report Delete

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>>43280796
Nah. It's mostly me trying to form a list with whatever models I got. I was thinking of using my Fireblade as my Warlord and using my Crisis Suit not as a Commander, but as a bodyguard to keep him safe (fluff purposes)

Though I guess I can always use the Crisis as a Commander, use the Fireblade as a Warlord still and use the Shas'O to fly around zapping shit solo. It's just not very Tau-like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:54:26 No.43280927 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43280952 >>43280954

Target Lock+Velocity Tracker+ Early Warning Override Stormsurge anti-aircraft team?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:56:25 No.43280952 Report Delete

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>>43280927

>target lock on gargantuan creature

ayyy lmao

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:56:25 No.43280954 Report Delete

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>>43280927
s5 isn't too great vs fliers. can't shoot them with the blaster. Now, VT+EW on a ghostkeel in the stealth cadre, that's industrial strength rape.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:56:46 No.43280961 Report Delete

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>>43275764
Slaanesh armies may not be top-tier, but they can still wreck your shit if you don't take them seriously. They also do surprisingly well against Eldar, especially if you get them into close combat.

Source: Play Slaanesh CSM/Daemons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:56:54 No.43280966 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281070

>>43279959
We already have dimostrated statistically more than once that the bloodthirster rapes the WK 9/10 times, because of the 10% probability of rolling a 6 on the D weapon of the knights, both wraith or imperial. A ranged WK is buttfucked 100% of times if you actually manage to charge it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:59:06 No.43281014 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281028 >>43281029 >>43281056

Any point taking a Crisis Bodyguard unit now that they aren't slot-free?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:59:38 No.43281020 Report Delete

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>>43275842

No, it's because people like to play this game as if its MtG or some other card game, where one card automatically beats another and the only real strategy that goes into the game is getting the strongest possible cards and then laying them all down at once. The reality is that even a shitty list in 40K can run circles around a top-tier netlist if the guy playing the netlist doesn't put any thought into it other than, "put dudes down and move forward."

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:00:01 No.43281028 Report Delete

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>>43281014
Good for rambo work, punching tanks in the arse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:00:07 No.43281029 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281151

>>43281014

extra attack is pretty cool but is it worth the extra points, maybe

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:01:15 No.43281055 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281169 >>43281239

>>43275021
>Chaos are probably fucked outside of magic and melee since we have no ignores cover shooting of any repute

YOUR IGNORANCE OFFENDS SLAANESH

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:01:15 No.43281056 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281111

>>43281014
You can LOS to shield drones automatically?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:02:04 No.43281070 Report Delete

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>>43280966
i don't think a lot of people use it, i don't blame them. it's an expensive kit and it's a pain to put together. shit, mine is sitting in pieces since everything needs to be pinned/magnetized

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:02:28 No.43281079 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281205 >>43281221

hi, dudes. Do you know where maight download Mymeara 2ed? %%Sorry for my "badass" English

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:04:11 No.43281111 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281203

>>43281056

People take Shield Drones?

I mean yeah though, if you want to take two or three and play funny buggers with wound allocation for your commander or shadowsun they're okay. Other than that, pretty pointless 10 PPM upgrade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:04:23 No.43281115 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281165 >>43281171

Gays, where can I find the Broadside dataslate?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:06:03 No.43281151 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281232

>>43281029
Hm. Well it's just the Crisis Shas'vre statline (+1A, +1Ld) at the same points of buying the Crisis Shas'vre. Bodyguards just allow you to have a squad of them, as opposed to just one.

Personally I don't see it worthwhile unless you have a character you really want to protect or want to field lots of Signature systems. Bonding Knife should help with morale and the extra attack is in CC, which you shouldn't be in.

Honestly I'm more amused about the fact you can now have 9-man Crisis teams.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:06:55 No.43281164 Report Delete

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>>43280473
This meme needs to die.

They're not going to kill Slaanesh, especially after all the shit they've gone through with detailing the fall of Fulgrim to Slaanesh, and the fact that there is NO ONE to replace it in the Chaos pantheon (Be'lakor and Malal can go eat a dick, they're not even real Gods, just renegade demi-gods).

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:07:01 No.43281165 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281179

>>43281115
>Gays

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:07:09 No.43281169 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281245

>>43281055
what's the best way to run noise marines? 2 blastmasters and 7 regs/champ? full on deathstar with 2 blastmasters,7 sonics and naked champ? rhino is probably needed as well

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:07:15 No.43281171 Report Delete

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>>43281115
Tau codex, either old or new, but not the Kauyon book. The old one (which is a pdf) is probably still in the OP links unless the anon that looks after that is really keen.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:07:54 No.43281179 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43281165
I'm sorry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:09:11 No.43281203 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43281111
Well I can't see any other use for bodyguards over normal crisis suits.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:09:15 No.43281205 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43281079
>can i download
fix

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:10:29 No.43281221 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43281243

>>43281079
Not at all just yet, it's not really released outside the FW seminars. Ask again in a few weeks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:11:20 No.43281232 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43281151

CRISIS FORCE ASSEMBLE

Take your Stealth formation with homing beacons, shove 9 double plasma or double fusion suits up your opponent's ass with flawless deep striking.

Fuck your titan. 18 melta shots.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:11:56 No.43281238 Report Delete

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Optimised Cheese Cadre (1847)
-----------------------------

-Optimised Stealth Cadre- (740)

1x3 Stealth Team (100)
- 1 Fusion Blaster

1x3 Stealth Team (100)
- 1 Fusion Blaster

1x3 Ghostkeel (540)
- 3 TL Fusion Blaster
- 3 Stimulant Injector
- 2 Target Lock
- 1 Early Warning Override

-Optimised Stealth Cadre- (740)

1x3 Stealth Team (100)
- 1 Fusion Blaster

1x3 Stealth Team (100)
- 1 Fusion Blaster

1x3 Ghostkeel (540)
- 3 TL Fusion Blaster
- 3 Stimulant Injector
- 2 Target Lock
- 1 Early Warning Override

-Combined Arms Detachment [Farsight Enclaves]- (367)

Commander Farsight (165)

1x3 Crisis Team [Compulsory] (159)
- 6 Plasma Rifle
- Bonding Knife Ritual [Compulsory]

1x1 Crisis Team (43)
- 2 Burst Cannon
- Bonding Knife Ritual [Compulsory]
Wasn't really sure what to do with the 1x1 suit and I needed to use a CAD since an Allied detachment can't be your primary detachment/have your warlord in it.

The fun part is that if you really want to be an asshole you can just run the two OSC formations at 1500 since they total 1480 by themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:12:00 No.43281239 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43281055
U sure m8?

>>43275635
>>43275635
>>43275635

Mono-god lists are suffering.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:12:07 No.43281243 Report Delete

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>>43281221
Thank you very much

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 17:12:10 No.43281245 Report Delete

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>>43281169
I personally go whole hog, and either do two squads of 10 full kit, or 4 squads of 6 with full kit, with a Slaanesh Raptor Lord + 2 squads of Suicide Raptors as the core of the force. I bring 2 Autocannon Havocs and then whatever else would be necessary for the mission, and that usually includes a Sonic Dread with a Blastmaster.

I win about 3/5 games in a somewhat competitive meta, and the only one I consistently lose to is Tau because the guy brings nothing but Suits.

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