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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:25:58 No.43302942 View Reply Report Delete

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Best Cutest Monster Edition

>All official WotC content here
https://mega.nz#F!UVkTnT5b!FJ34UZ98BMY2mEtexenS7g

>Homebrew, tools for 5e, other stuff
http://pastebin.com/X1TFNxck

>SCAG Leaks
All New Class Information: http://imgur.com/a/KCOSD
SCAG Racel Options and Info: http://imgur.com/a/69vnL
New Backgrounds: http://imgur.com/a/xenwK

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:20:31 No.43303853 Report Delete

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i think this is hear a tad early, but I will bump it so it is ready when the other thread dies.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:45:45 No.43304351 Report Delete

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All the bumping

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:49:57 No.43304407 Report Delete

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There's really no cute monsters in 5e. Even classic cuties like Modrons and Flumphs don't really strike me as cute anymore.

Same goes with sexy. There's no sexy monsters, and they failed spectacularly with the succubus.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:17:09 No.43305876 Report Delete

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>>43304407
'Munna guess they did that on purpose. There's been a push to try and be less fanservicey. Seems like it defeats the point of a succubus, tho.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:08:24 No.43306686 Report Delete

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>>43304407
>nothing cute or sexy about 5e
OSR master race, represent!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:36:26 No.43308463 Report Delete

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>>43304407

I would absolutely slip a hand down the incubus's pants.

The erinyes looks good. It was a mistake for her to be sexy in the first place. The marilith is decently creepy, the medusa is actually cute, the lamia looks the way the leader of a bunch of Graz'zt cultists should.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:03:15 No.43310409 Report Delete

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>>43308463
>It was a mistake for her to be sexy in the first place

NO.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:18:54 No.43310488 Report Delete

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>>43304407
Part of that is the more detailed art style. Most illustrated art, when attempting to affect "cuteness", dials down the detail to essential lines and shapes. Comparing the orignal art of flumphs to the current, in addition to the obvious changes in style, detal, budget, and color, the current ones are meant to be more "silly" than "cute" IMO

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:36:49 No.43310615 Report Delete

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>>43308463
Wasn't the original point of Erinyes to be akin to LE Succubi, who traded sexual favors (or partnership, company, anything really) for mortal souls?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:55:08 No.43311088 Report Delete

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Anyone have the mega-fuck-huge Forgotten Realms map from Sword Coast Adventurer's Guide?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:02:05 No.43311146 Report Delete

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What is the best item to bestow with a curse of stickiness?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:03:19 No.43311154 Report Delete

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Does anyone have a PDF of the soon to be released DnD 5e Sword Coast Adventure's Guide? I heard there was an online leak...

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:36:36 No.43311419 Report Delete

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>>43311154
No pdf yet...
But in the op there's a few links to the new classes and backgrounds, also races but it's not complete

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:39:17 No.43311436 Report Delete

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>>43311419
>>All official WotC content here
>https://mega.nz#F!UVkTnT5b!FJ34UZ98BMY2mEtexenS7g
>>Homebrew, tools for 5e, other stuff
>http://pastebin.com/X1TFNxck
>>SCAG Leaks
>All New Class Information: http://imgur.com/a/KCOSD
>SCAG Racel Options and Info: http://imgur.com/a/69vnL
>New Backgrounds: http://imgur.com/a/xenwK

I missed the links, thanks! I must've heard wring. Thanks again :)

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:41:05 No.43311450 Report Delete

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>>43311436

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:41:43 No.43311456 Report Delete

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>>43308463
You're an awful person and I hope that the world will have less of people like you.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:47:59 No.43311526 Report Delete

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>>43304407
>implying Modrons aren't still adorable
I think this was in the DMG (and was being reused from Dragon Magazine at that), but meh.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:05:53 No.43312266 Report Delete

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>>43311450
Does anyone have this in a not absolute dog shit resolution?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:09:01 No.43312292 Report Delete

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>>43311450

>map for ants

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:13:17 No.43312332 Report Delete

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>Level 4 Barbarian / Level 1 Rogue
>Entertainer
>Motivational Speaker
>20 Str
>NO armor
>NO weapons
>NO gold (but pretty much every Inn comps food and lodging because I'm a local celebrity now).

Essentially a lifestyle design expert / internet guru / professional wrestler. Make people feel good, make them idolize me, they pay me tons of gold when I perform / give me stuff for free all the time.

What magic item should I look to get ASAP? Was thinking of attempting to look for a Giant Str belt (looking for Storm) or winged boots or something. (Barbs get to fly at 14, so maybe skipping boots)

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:15:53 No.43312360 Report Delete

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>>43312332
What was the point of taking a level of Rogue? It doesn't synergise well with Barbarian at all.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:20:50 No.43312398 Report Delete

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Is there any equivalent to the Vow of Poverty in 5th ed (or any edition except 3.5, for that matter)? I'm trying to make a Charles Atlas brawler-style character.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:21:05 No.43312400 Report Delete

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>>43312360

Expertise athletics shenigans I assume

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:21:28 No.43312403 Report Delete

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>>43312360
Mechanically:
Expertise in Athletics and Acrobatics, for high flying, wrestling action.
We have another Rogue in my group, so when I go on an Ultimate Warrior style promo speech, which amounts to babbling, I actually use that as Thieves Cant to communicate with him while I play main distraction.
Our group decided that Sneak Attack should be able to be used with unarmed strike....so I'm actually doing not terribad damage.

Story-wise:
>Grow up on the streets, stealing food and money.
>Get roped into travelling show that features Strongmen and Wrestlers as a pocket boy. Basically, while the crowd gathers, I maneuvered the crowd stealing coins.
>Get too big for that, join the show and actually become an AMAZING wrestler.
>Professional / Amateur wrestlers have anger issues, and are very tribal in who they hang out with.

Boom, Rog/Barbarian.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:22:36 No.43312408 Report Delete

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>>43312398
No but considering how underwhelming monk is, I'd certainly tinker around with VoP and consider making it a core option. Maybe look at some fighter stuff to throw in as well.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:24:24 No.43312429 Report Delete

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>>43312398
Vow of Poverty was garbage, why would you want it in 5e?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:25:41 No.43312439 Report Delete

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>>43312403

Too bad the utimate warrior was such a shit wrestler. But I guess Rage helps simulate how he got completely gassed after about a 3 minute match

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:27:23 No.43312457 Report Delete

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>>43312439
Who was worse, Ultimate Warrior or The Booty Man?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:27:34 No.43312462 Report Delete

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>>43312408

Unlike 3.x and 4e 5e isn't built around an assumption of magical items being commonplace

I think making a VoP feat unless you intend to bring a decent amount of magical items into your game is dubious.

Besides most of the monk archetypes are solid except for the 4 elements one.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:28:02 No.43312464 Report Delete

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>>43312266
>>43312292
No, but if someone is a cool guy and spends $10 on it, we can all have it. http://mikeschley.zenfolio.com/p150074822/h5ea715c3#h5ea715c3

I'm not responsible for it having identifying tags, tho.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:28:51 No.43312476 Report Delete

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>>43312439
>>43312457
But he had the best promos of all time, which is what I focus on. Also, my Eagle totem is represented by my face tattoo in game, so it works out. Dunno how I'm gonna swing the other two totems, but I don't foresee us going that far.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:29:49 No.43312484 Report Delete

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>>43312476
>Dunno how I'm gonna swing the other two totems
Arm tassels obv.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:29:55 No.43312487 Report Delete

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>>43312429

Because I want to strut around punching things so hard they explode, and I want to do it with my own strength!

GEAR IS FOR CHUMPS

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:32:42 No.43312522 Report Delete

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I know DnD dungeons don't usually have much of a connection to any real building style or practicality, but I am currently trying to add a few more sensible rooms to the "dungeon" I'm making.

The idea is that it is an abandoned keep or stronghold that was used during wartime as defense but has long since been crumbling. The keep is currently repurposed as a resting area of a small group of bandits.

Unfortunately, I don't know fucking anything about actual keeps. I currently have the whole thing as a square stone building, with massive walls and an open area in the middle. There are currently about 3 rooms, a staircase leading to the roof of the walls, the warroom and an armory. I imagine there should also be a place for people to sleep, with some moldy cots and whatnot. I don't know what to put the "courtyard".

It seems a mess. How did these things work? I think I essentially made city walls that don't surround anything.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:32:50 No.43312524 Report Delete

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>>43312487
As of right now, with my char listed above, at level 5 and with 20 str....

I'm punching / kicking /elbowing / headbutting for 6 - 17 damage on a non crit.

1d4 + 5(str) + 2(rage) + 1d6 (sneak attack)

We have a newbie DM.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:34:29 No.43312539 Report Delete

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>>43312522
You could make a motte and bailey. It's got walls around a little courtyard, but the keep is on an artificial hill

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:34:34 No.43312541 Report Delete

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>>43312476
>But he had the best promos of all time

You sure about that, anon?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFoC3TR5rzI

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:36:41 No.43312556 Report Delete

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>>43310615

5e succubus is now a NE fiend who can serve either demons and devils, so the erinyes no longer needs to serve to "classy escort woman" role. Even before then though, her schtick was less her methodology and more her motive: a voluntarily fallen angel who felt mortals were unworthy of Good.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:37:32 No.43312565 Report Delete

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>>43312541
meh....that was funny and all, but I powerlift, and I have a playlist of Ultimate Warrior promos and CT Fletcher videos that makes me want to run through walls.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:38:57 No.43312582 Report Delete

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>>43312487

Do you really want to burn a feat to get no upgrade gear to work?

If 5e has something to make no direct magic weapon to work (ala 4e's psionic focus) I would just use that, and still get access to more gear powers.

.... I now want to design a Metal Gear that has magical large range nuke powers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:42:39 No.43312621 Report Delete

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>>43312522

Download some harnworld materials, it will help you with some castle design ideas.

But in general decide on what rough era of fortification technology you want to go with and then build around that.

Early keeps and fortified manor houses will generally have just a single tower on a hill surrounded by a palisade. Later on you'll have more advanced fortifications with towers surrounding an inner bailey (with a keep in one corner) and an outer bailey with 2 sets of gatehouses and a great hall and barracks.

Most people prefer living in the wooded structures inside of the inner bailey because keeps and towers are cold as shit.

With airborne attackers D&D is a bit more unusual in that most defenders want to have more underground defenses which in reality would end to undermine the strength of walls but magic ain't gotta explain shit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:43:55 No.43312634 Report Delete

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>>43312582
Look at the disaster orbs from PotA. They're magical WMDs.

>a magical weapon to surpass metal gear

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:45:13 No.43312648 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312698 >>43312706 >>43312726

I want to turn into a Tarrasque with wildshape, how do I convince my DM to let me? My character's backstory says that he is descendant from a Tarrasque

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:47:11 No.43312671 Report Delete

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Part of my sorcerer's schtick is that he never relies on his physical belongings, because anything he's carrying could be lost with the next Wild Magic Surge.
Do I really need to have an arcane focus for him? If I do, can he make an arcane focus out of random shit he finds, and how long do you think that would take?
I'm wondering just how important arcane focuses/material pouches are, and if people would be OP without it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:50:07 No.43312698 Report Delete

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>>43312671
Does he not own any clothes?

>>43312648
Ummm...wut

Is there any math or research done anywhere that is a comparison of average damage per level of each martial, depending on general build?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:50:28 No.43312706 Report Delete

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>>43312648
>he is descendant from a Tarrasque

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:51:17 No.43312710 Report Delete

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>>43312671
You HAVE to have a focus or component pouch. If your DM lets you get away with this dumb shit then he is a crappy DM. Id have your ass counting pieces of flint, pinches of dust and other dumb little material components all game long.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:51:23 No.43312712 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312776 >>43312818

>>43312671
The point is to make it so you have to have one hand occupied to cast, so you can't have two one handed weapons, or a weapon and shield, and cast spells.

So, you could easily modify it to be that you just have to have a hand free. In my group we've got a guy who doesn't use components for basic spells because of the origin of the magic he has. So we just count him as having a component pouch, but he doesn't use it for RP purposes.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:52:19 No.43312726 Report Delete

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>>43312648
Dear god.

You're either going to need to be 20th level with some epic boons and a VERY lenient DM, or make a hideously gimped, baby-lizard type Tarrasque, to even consider it. Tarrasques are the ultimate endgame, there's absolutely no justification I can think of for letting you become one.
Fluffwise, how are you descended from one? Tarrasques are a primeval force of nature, an earth spirit, almost a golem. A representation of the wrath of the very planet you stand on. I think that's as asexual as you can get, and to be honest, the concept of Tarrasque porn scars my mind.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:53:02 No.43312732 Report Delete

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>>43312524

That's a bit of a step down, unless 5e handles HP differently.

In 3.5, if you were an unarmed swordsage with the Battle Jump feat (and why wouldn't you be) and the STR bonus from Vow of Poverty, you could hit the high 20's in str by level 14.

so, let's see. Hit an enemy with Swooping Dragon Strike, combined with Battle Jump, and assuming the use of Improved Natural Attack and Superior Unarmed Strike, you'd hit for 3d8+10d6+(strength bonus) + 3 (magic weapon effect from VoP) x 2.

This averages something like 110 damage, and if you've been stacking Jump like a proper monk, your target eats a stun that's basically impossible to save against.

This is from one hit, so you can charge and do this too. Monsters on your CR will usually suffer Massive Damage from this, and if you roll good, it's likely to one-shot them. In addition, since they're stunned, you can follow up with a Full Attack using your tasty monk FoB against a flat-footed enemy. If you've dropped into Assassin Stance and have the Craven feat, you're handing your foe at least three or four hits (more if you're not human and have more natural attacks) at +14 damage apiece.

That's about 200 damage in two rounds, which you can do again a full-round later due to maneuver recovery, unlike a wizard, who will likely burn out after a minute of this kind of damage-dealing.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:53:27 No.43312737 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312756 >>43312774 >>43312810 >>43312818

>>43312706
>>43312698
His mother was a Tarrasque but his father was a Dwarf so he got Barbarian traits but naturally studied druidcraft (I went 1 level in Barbarian). I want to convince my DM to let channel my ancestry with wildshape

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:54:40 No.43312752 Report Delete

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>>43312726
RAW, you can never do it, Anon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:54:46 No.43312756 Report Delete

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>>43312737

>dwarf druid
>somehow managed to seduce and fuck a tarrasque

Ladies and gentlemen, we have a true child of /tg/.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:56:55 No.43312774 Report Delete

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>>43312737
lmfao this is most absurd and retarded backstory I have ever read. This is some Coldsteel the hedgehog bullshit.

"Yeah and my dad was a VOLCANO and my mom was a GIANT KATANA and I can shoot lazer beams out of my hands that turn into ninja stars and I can teleport around while on fire but the fire doesnt hurt me but hurts everyone else and then I can turn into a dragon and fly away!"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:57:11 No.43312776 Report Delete

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>>43312698
He picks up clothes wherever he can, but he wakes up naked in blasted craters on a regular basis.

>>43312712
That would work great, actually. My guy is very hands-oriented, all of his spells involve using his hands. I like the imagery of literally ripping apart the fabric of reality to achieve his needs.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:00:49 No.43312810 Report Delete

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>>43312737
Tarrasques have no gender. They're like a fucking mountain range given life.
Honestly, the fact that your DM let you get away with that backstory in the first place makes me think he might let you wild shape a Tarrasque. In that he has no idea how any of the rules or setting works.
So go ahead, give it a shot.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:01:27 No.43312818 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312837 >>43312846 >>43312878

>>43312737
This....I'm out.

>>43312732
Lol, that's all fine and dandy but we're not level 14, and we're using PHB / DMG, and this ain't 3.5.

>>43312776
>>43312712
Would an amputee sorc/wizard/spellcaster work? Or like, hand got cutoff, and now there's a fake hand / hook / whatever and use THAT as the arcane focus?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:03:34 No.43312837 Report Delete

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>>43312818
>Would an amputee sorc/wizard/spellcaster work? Or like, hand got cutoff, and now there's a fake hand / hook / whatever and use THAT as the arcane focus?

The main point is that your hand is occupied casting the spell. As long as your hand is doing NOTHING but being used to cast the spell, youre good. Flavor it however you want. This does NOT mean your amputated hand can also be a weapon. it cant. You either need to have one hand ALWAYS FREE (or holding a focus/component pouch) or have war caster. Period. You cannot be using a weapon, even a weapon connected to your arm, and still cast spells with that hand.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:03:45 No.43312843 Report Delete

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>>43312774
>"Yeah and my dad was a VOLCANO and my mom was a GIANT KATANA and I can shoot lazer beams out of my hands that turn into ninja stars and I can teleport around while on fire but the fire doesnt hurt me but hurts everyone else and then I can turn into a dragon and fly away!"

My next character.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:04:03 No.43312846 Report Delete

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>>43312818
We had a Sorc get his hand cut off, so he taped a wand (his focus) to the stump.

The mechanics, in combat, are the same as holding a focus in that hand.

You would, of course, have to make sure your DM was cool with it. But as long as you're not changing any mechanics it shouldn't be a problem.

You start running into problems when you say shit like "my focus is a gem in my ring, so I have two hands free!"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:04:22 No.43312851 Report Delete

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>>43312539
>>43312621
Cool, thanks guys. I'll probably stick some wooden structures inside the bailey, all rotten and moldy. And I'll make an overgrown ditch.

Primitive is probably best, since the keep is old even relative to the area.

This really helped me get a clearer picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:05:11 No.43312861 Report Delete

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>>43312843
Pssshhh, nothin personell kid

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:06:05 No.43312871 Report Delete

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>>43312774
It is not absurd here I will explain. His father was a dwarf who was down on his luck and one day he was challenged to a drinking contest by a powerful wizard. He accepted and beat the wizard very quickly because he was an elvish pansy who couldn't hold his ale. The Wizard told him he could have anything he wanted to so he said ''I want to have the best sex ever'' and the wizard thought sex with a Tarrasque would be great choice because it is mighty. He summoned one and then the Dwarf put his dwarvish charms on her and offered her some ale, she accepted and had sex with him. After she gave birth to my character the Tarrasque left the baby in the hands of the dwarf. My character grew up with the dwarvish father and learned some Barbaric traits because of this (1 level in Barbarian) But he also wanted to study druidcraft because something was calling him to nature (I wonder...). I'm hoping he will soon turn into a Tarrasque with wildshape if my DM let's me but he will need some convincing.

>>43312810
Thanks anyway

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:06:37 No.43312878 Report Delete

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>>43312818
I mean, not as well as I'd like. Could I just have it that he's completely useless at using weapons, so he never does? That's pretty much how he works now, and it makes about as much sense as using a weapon, then sheathing it and drawing the arcane focus to cast a spell.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:06:48 No.43312881 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313056

So I want to put one level in light cleric with my sun monk for maximum LIGHT. When would be a good time to do so? I thought level 7 would be the best time because every level before seems pretty essential for the monk.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:08:28 No.43312901 Report Delete

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>>43312871

This has got to be fucking bait.

>female tarrasque
>getting summoned by a wizard
>getting fucked by a dorf with the aid of ALE
>tarrasque gives the baby to dad

Holy fuck you better be like 11 m8

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:09:04 No.43312911 Report Delete

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>>43312871
it gets better and better.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:09:13 No.43312912 Report Delete

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>>43312871

You're half-tarrasque to begin with, why bother? You're probably already the size of a house.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:10:10 No.43312922 Report Delete

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So, rangers can't get focuses, but they still need material components, right?

My players I am pretty sure are going to be abandoning civilization soon, but I don't think they understand that they might have trouble casting spells once they get them by doing so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:10:19 No.43312924 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318912 >>43319082

What is the most practical/most fun school of magic for a wizard? I'm in a group about to play our first game, if that makes a difference.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:10:43 No.43312931 Report Delete

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>>43312871
What.
Okay, hold up.
I have written some bullshit backstories for shits and giggles, but, dear God, what is this?
I can't believe you're serious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:11:04 No.43312935 Report Delete

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>>43312912

But he's half dorf as well.

Maybe his dad was a really short dorf and thus his son is only like 8 feet tall.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:11:49 No.43312942 Report Delete

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>>43312871

Someone screencap this shit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:12:04 No.43312945 Report Delete

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>>43312871
Holy shit this is the dumbest shit ive ever read. You have GOT to be trolling us. I dont believe for a second someone actually seriously wrote that backstory

>and the wizard thought sex with a Tarrasque would be great choice because it is mighty.
Why would he think that? Its an elemental beast with no sexual organs.

> He summoned one and
WHAT? You dont "just summon" a terrasque. Especially some dumbass random wizard holding drinking contests.

>Dwarf put his dwarvish charms on her and offered her some ale, she accepted and had sex with him.
It hurts my brain to even try to pick apart all the dumb shit going on with this sentence. "Her". How the fuck is a elemental gendered? Its also like 100ft tall, how the fuck did it fit in the bar? How did the logistics of their sex even happen? Huge series of ladders?

> I'm hoping he will soon turn into a Tarrasque with wildshape
You know that wild shape is limited by the CR level of the creature right, and that would be straight cheating? A circle of the moon druidcan only turn into BEASTS (which a terrasque is not a beast) of one third of their druid level or lower, meaning that even as a level 20 druid you can only turn into a CR 6 creature (terrasque is CR30, for reference)

This has got to be a troll. No one is actually this stupid or as big of a cheater. I refuse to believe this is real.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:12:40 No.43312950 Report Delete

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>>43312871

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:13:42 No.43312965 Report Delete

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>>43312912
He's also half dwarf so it evens out the height, besides my DM said that I can't have any inherent Tarrasque abilities in my normal form so I want to convince him to temporarily shed my mortal form to become tarasque with wildshape

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:14:40 No.43312974 Report Delete

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>>43312871
Are you sure you know what a Tarrasque is.

There's no way anyone could summon it at will (it's a damn force of nature), it wouldn't be built to have sex (there would be no reason for it to be able to reproduce), something like that can DEFINITELY hold its liquor.

even if this did the work the kid would be a gigantic monstrosity of death

If you replace a tarrasque with some sort of smaller and infinitely less threatening creature, then maybe that could work. Currently it doesn't.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:15:58 No.43312989 Report Delete

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>>43312965

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:16:30 No.43312996 Report Delete

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>>43312965
Read the rules on wild shape, then slap yourself. Cheater.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:16:36 No.43312997 Report Delete

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>>43312945
I said he was a POWERFUL wizard if you even bothered to read my post

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:18:10 No.43313010 Report Delete

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Tell me if this idea is stupid:
Fighter (Champion) 17 + Warlock 3

Plate mail for 18 AC, greatsword and hex for 3d6+5 damage, three times per turn, critting on an 18-20. Proficiency in Constitution saves and Indomitable to make sure hex stays up.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:18:54 No.43313018 Report Delete

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>>43312997
Yes because POWERFUL wizards just hang out in bars challenging dwarfs to drinking contests. Then just casually lose and summon a terrasque. Not that your story doesnt have enough plot holes as it is, but how did the wizard summon it if it lost the drinking contest? Isnt the point of the drinking contest to drink until one of them blacks out? If the wizard lost, then he would have drank until he blacked out, which doesnt make sense. If the wizard was challenging people to drinking contests he obviously would be using tricks like magic to help himself win, so why lose at all?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:19:56 No.43313028 Report Delete

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>>43313010
Why not ranger for hunters mark? its like hex but without having to waste levels in lock.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:20:20 No.43313032 Report Delete

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>>43313018
Cheating is against the law.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:20:38 No.43313036 Report Delete

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>>43312871
There's some serious flaws in that story, and all of them are centered on how ridiculously you're underestimating a Tarrasque.
First off, any wizard that can summon a Tarrasque has got to be one of the most powerful gods in existence in disguise. Secondly, I'm pretty sure Tarrasques are pretty dumb, like 'no concept of language' dumb. There's no way it wouldn't eat a dwarf rather than drink with it. It has no idea what drinking is.
Third off, do you know how big a Tarrasque is? Like Godzilla big. Were they still in the bar when the god-wizard summoned it? Because they sure as shit weren't afterwards. They were in a smoking crater the size of the neighborhood.
Even if a Tarrasque were to hypothetically have genitalia, do you know how big that genitalia would be? Your dwarven father, of a race already not renowned for its size, would be far more likely to be swallowed up by a Tarrasque's craggy, cavernous vagina than have any kind of intercourse with it. His dwarven sperm would die of exhaustion before reaching a tenth of the distance between the Tarrasnatch and the Tarrawomb. Even if they somehow made it, there is no earthly flagellum that could propel his genetic material into the mud-ball Tarrasque ovum to create life.
For an interesting read on the subject, look up "Man of Steel, Woman of Kleenex", a lecture on why Superman could never mate with Louis Lane.
But considering that whatever wizard conjured the Tarrasque up is some kind of omnipotent celestial being with a truly twisted sense of humor, you could handwave all of the ludicrous problems away with a cry of "Deus Vult".

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:21:25 No.43313045 Report Delete

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>>43313032
Kind of like using wild shape to turn into a creature higher than CR6? Or a creature thats not a Beast?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:21:47 No.43313052 Report Delete

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>>43312997
Dude, hate to say it, but yeah; no wizard is going to summon a Tarrasque, drunk or not. It's a CR30 force of fucking nature; if he summoned it, there's literally not chance at all that your papi would be able to shag it--it would just lay waste to the nation and eventually go back to sleep. Your papi, the wizard, and everyone would be dead.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:22:07 No.43313056 Report Delete

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>>43312881
Are you sure it's worth it just for Warding Flare and 1st level spells? You don't even get Channel Divinity and proficiency in med armor and shields is useless for a monk. I would understand if it was for roleplay reasons, but it will just slow your progress otherwise.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:22:27 No.43313060 Report Delete

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The above mentioned Rog/Barbarian in a fight against a same level Monk(shadow), who wins?

Also, does anyone else have any players that always dick measures and wants to "take on" other PC's?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:22:35 No.43313062 Report Delete

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>>43313045
It's my constitutional right to turn into whatever I want.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:23:18 No.43313074 Report Delete

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>>43313036
>Tarrasque's craggy, cavernous vagina

I lol'd.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:23:38 No.43313079 Report Delete

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>>43312996
Congrats, your character has made the list of possible NPCS in my game.
He may of may not be lying his ass off about his heritage, though.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:23:50 No.43313081 Report Delete

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>>43313036
>His dwarven sperm would die of exhaustion before reaching a tenth of the distance between the Tarrasnatch and the Tarrawomb

this is the best thing I've read all day

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:24:13 No.43313089 Report Delete

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>>43313052
Speaking of drunk....are there official rules for drunkenness, or rules for influence of any drugs / mind altering substances?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:24:19 No.43313091 Report Delete

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>>43313060
>optimized character going full into one class, so it has better stats
>unoptimized "but its cool!" character that is horribly built, wasting levels in classes that dont synergize at all, and cheating to get sneak attack when it shouldnt

HMM WONDER WHO WINS!?!?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:25:26 No.43313104 Report Delete

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>>43313079
Why did you reply to my comment? Did you click the wrong one?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:26:14 No.43313117 Report Delete

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>>43313062
Unless the setting is America, the Bill Of Rights doesn't exist there, meaning that in-universe you do not have the right to cheat.

Also the Constitution doesn't say anything about imaginary people in board games

Q.E. goddamn D.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:26:35 No.43313122 Report Delete

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>>43313104
Probably.
I'm on mobile, so it tends to screw up more than regular.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:26:52 No.43313126 Report Delete

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>>43313056
Yes it's for roleplaying reasons too, but I don't think it's that bad. Warding flare and Shield of Faith make me even more unkillable. Also healing word could be nice to stabalize allies from afar

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:27:16 No.43313128 Report Delete

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When you summon monsters, do they go the next time their imitative comes up or the next round? It seems weird that want to roll lower on them, because you want them to go after you

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:27:36 No.43313132 Report Delete

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>>43313036
>>43313052
You underestimate my fathers strength. Also the Wizard could do it because he was that powerful, he summoned the Tarrasque at a point far off in the distance and my father worked his magic on her. It's not hard to understand

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:28:59 No.43313147 Report Delete

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This whole fucking thread

gratz Tarrasquedorfbro this has been the funniest thread in a while

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:29:17 No.43313150 Report Delete

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>>43313132
fuck outta here

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:29:46 No.43313155 Report Delete

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>>43313132
There's a line between 'understandable' and 'unbelieveable' that you crossed earlier than halfway in.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:30:09 No.43313159 Report Delete

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>>43313089
Nah; I usually rule it that a person can have shots of liquor equal to their Constitution modifier; any shots after that require Con saves, starting at DC10, +2 DC every shot after that.

For beer and wine, its two beers/wines = one shot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:30:13 No.43313160 Report Delete

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>New guy max a sorcerer
>8 dex
>No Mage armour
>'I just don't like minmaxing'
Jesus christ

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:30:28 No.43313163 Report Delete

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>>43313117
The Bill of Rights is universal because it's right and good. It gives me freedom of speech, which obviously applies to wildshape since I need to speak a word of transformation to do it. I'm free to speak the word of transformation into tarrasque.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:30:54 No.43313168 Report Delete

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>>43313132
No matter how strong anyone in this situation is, a Tarrasque has no sex. You cannot mate with something that has no genitals.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:31:02 No.43313169 Report Delete

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>>43313150
>>43313155
Well fuck you guys I'd like to see you come up with a better character.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:31:51 No.43313184 Report Delete

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>>43313132
I am so sorry. But your dad lost a drinking game to a wizard, got wicked hammered, and fucked a pile of rocks that looked like a lizard. He was too ashamed to tell you the truth.
You can cry if you need to.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:32:26 No.43313197 Report Delete

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>>43313132
>You underestimate my power.

lulz

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:32:50 No.43313201 Report Delete

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>>43313089
The way my DM's ruled it is that you make a con save, DC defined by the liquor itself and its quantity. If you fail you just become whatever kind of drunk your character is.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:33:15 No.43313204 Report Delete

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>>43313091
Humor me. Why?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:33:40 No.43313209 Report Delete

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>>43313169
What class you want? I guaran-damn-tee you I can come up with something better.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:34:16 No.43313219 Report Delete

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>>43313169
I just took a shit. Its a better character than yours.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:35:26 No.43313238 Report Delete

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>>43313209
Not him but I need an idea for a bard

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:36:04 No.43313243 Report Delete

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>>43313126
It's not bad, just suboptimal. If it's fine with you to get ASI and other stuff a level later, then go for it. I am playing a light cleric right now and it's really great. However, you'll have to think about a spellcasting focus and how it synergizes with your weapon (if you're using one).

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:36:49 No.43313255 Report Delete

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>>43313201
In LMoP you come accross a group of drunk cultists, and the book has them all act as if they were poisoned so that's how I've ruled being really wasted drunk. If my table's characters had a few drinks I don't punish them though, as I assume they're fairly capable heros even wjen buzzed.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:36:52 No.43313257 Report Delete

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>>43313238
Setting info?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:37:19 No.43313265 Report Delete

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>>43313204
Straight classes get to ASI quicker, meaning he may have an additional ASI over you, meaning he has better stats

He also has access to better class features, which get stronger as you level. Since you are multiclassed, you dont have access to the stronger class features like he does.

You dont get sneak attack on unarmed strikes. Period. Youre cheating. In a pvp equation everyone has to follow the rules or its not fair. SO youd have to fight him without sneak attack. Not to mention you wouldnt get sneak attack anyways in a 1v1 situation, unless you reckless attacked, which would let the monk hit you 4+ times with advantage and stunning strike you on any of them that hit.

Rogue/barb is a shit multiclass with zero synergy. Monk isnt great but its more than capable of beating your unoptimized garbage, im sorry.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:38:10 No.43313278 Report Delete

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>>43313169
>>43313169
Basically any character I've ever seen or made makes more sense than that. Shit son, create a character with the Quick Build stuff and die rolling for the background and you have something better.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:38:11 No.43313279 Report Delete

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>>43313184

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:38:27 No.43313285 Report Delete

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>>43313169
You know what?
Fine.
I'll engage that.
>Drow concubine has sex with human warlord, they have a kid.
>Kid is spirited away by evil uncle, trained to become the vessel of a dark goddess.
>Despite having all-around stellar stats including Charisma, she's completely unlikable due to having been raised surrounded by demonic work and backstabbing bastards.
>She fancies herself a demigodess, is Favored Soul of her goddess, seeks to kill her parents in a show of dominance and 'retake' her tribe.
>She assumes she's always right and will threaten anyone who challenges her with force.
This is trademark Mary Sue and it's still more believable than that.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:38:29 No.43313286 Report Delete

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>>43313168
>You cannot mate with something that has no genitals.

That's a fucking unfortunate statement, and objectively false.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:39:27 No.43313293 Report Delete

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What are the requirements to becoming a paladin? Is it possible for someone to want to be a paladin, and try to uphold a certain paladin code, but just be a fighter because they can't become a paladin for X reason?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:39:35 No.43313296 Report Delete

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>Tarrasque shitposting

I picked a weird time to check out this thread.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:39:36 No.43313297 Report Delete

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>>43304407
>sea hags aren't sexy

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:40:06 No.43313303 Report Delete

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>>43313257
Victorian esque with dark elements. Basically the whole damn world is under monarchy.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:41:39 No.43313319 Report Delete

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>>43313293
In 5e, that likely depends on your setting. You sure as hell can roleplay a character like that if you want, but there aren't any strict restrictions statwise.

Of course, being a paladin means upholding a set of tenets, following certain teachings and striving for certain purposes. So it obviously requires a devoted person of right type. If you're not that type of person, you wouldn't be a paladin. Not sure if you'd even want to, but still.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:41:47 No.43313324 Report Delete

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>>43313265
Does this change the game at all?

>Level 5, meaning only one ASI, which both have gained.
>Resistance to damage via Rage
>Monk is unarmed as well

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:42:15 No.43313329 Report Delete

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I want to see some Dwarf Tarrasque porn now

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:42:26 No.43313331 Report Delete

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>>43313297
Well, I've only seen a couple HILFs in my adventuring days.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:45:26 No.43313371 Report Delete

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>>43313169
>Half-Elf born into a society of Wood Elves, chillin in their forest society
>Despite being generally friendly, a lot of people never truly trust him due to being half-human, but manages to have a respectable trade as a gardener.
>Community is attacked by dorces of an evil overlord, a good chunk of his companions are wiped out
>ain't gonna stand for this
>pure rage at the world, all the rage
>QUEST FOR VENGEANCE
Boom, Half-Elf Barbarian with the Folk Hero background.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:45:37 No.43313373 Report Delete

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I'm thinking about making a campaign around a single dungeon and the whole objective is to escape (Like Legend of Grimdark)

I want to give my players everything they need within the dungeon itself, which works really great with the martials but when we get to spellcasting, they'll be so much stronger than the martials.

That is unless I take away their spellcasting focus and make them use the actual materials to cast spells.

Now eventually inside this dungeon they'll be getting good equipment so I'll need to offer a spellcasting focus for my casters.

For balance purposes I'll still need to limit the spells my casters have access to. Should I just limit their spells to the spellscrolls they find?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:45:47 No.43313377 Report Delete

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>>43313286
Alright. You cannot procreate with something that has no genitals. You can fuck anything.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:49:44 No.43313417 Report Delete

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>>43313278
>>43313285
>>43313371
I meant using the Tarrasque idea, you can't do it better than what I did. I know it's great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:49:50 No.43313418 Report Delete

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>>43313324
No, he will still wreck you, easy. 5th level is a REALLLLLY good level for monks and they get a huge powerspike with a bigger unarmed dmg dice, stunning strike and extra attack.

Im not sure exactly what ways your DM is letting you cheat, but YOUR unarmed attacks deal 1 damage (unless you have tavern brawler feat, which means your STR is at most 17 +3 mod with point buy and he probably has a _4 mod on his dex), HIS unarmed strikes deal 1d6. You cant get sneak attack at all unless you reckless attack, which gives him advantage on every hit against you. That will increase his average DPR WAY more than it will increase yours. He can attempt to stun you up to 4 times in a turn, and deal damage on every one of those hits. Then, if he stuns you, its game over.

In short, hes just better than you in every way.

You deal 1 + str mod per hit, he deals 1d6+ dex mod per hit, and can hit twice as many times as you AND can stunning strike you on every hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:51:43 No.43313439 Report Delete

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Someone post the group of knights stealing the tarrasque's bra pic. I'm on mobile.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:53:18 No.43313463 Report Delete

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>>43313417
No, the Tarrasque idea is not great at all. There are so many reasons it doesn't make sense that have been adequately explained by much of this thread.

I'm sorry, friend. Let it go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:54:05 No.43313470 Report Delete

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>>43313418
Gotcha. I only ask because that's what I figured, just trying to think of something if it eventually does come up. We usually play low levels, and he doesn't ever roleplay and his first instinct is to always be the coolest / best one in terms of fighting other NPCs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:57:34 No.43313503 Report Delete

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>>43313373
Why don't you just play some video games with them

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:00:17 No.43313540 Report Delete

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>>43313303
>Victorian esque with dark elements. Basically the whole damn world is under monarchy.

I am seeing a Gentleman criminal and con-artist; he's the face of a group of thieves. Former Captain in the Navy, he was courtmartialed after he challenged his superior officer to a duel and won; the duel was over the murder, during a military engagement, of innocents at the order of the superior officer. With the superior officer's death, the officer's family spent quite a lot of money greasing palms to have the good Captain drummed out of the service on charges--but not enough to get him hanged.

Now, the Captain--he is still entitled to his military rank, even if he no longer is in service--is in an interesting position. He is sought out by the family rivals of the officer he killed during the duel, both as a snub to annoy the family and because a man who will hold to his principles like that is one to be watched--both as a friend...and a possible tool or scapegoat.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:02:43 No.43313580 Report Delete

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>>43302942
Flumphs. Accept no substitutes. You know since almost anything else in the Underdark wants you dead...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:07:06 No.43313634 Report Delete

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Looking at Elk Barbarian, all I can think is how they'd be the ultimate Linebackers. How hard would it be to come up with a D&D 5e version of Blood Bowl?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:10:42 No.43313675 Report Delete

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Logic check here.
Way of the Four Elements monk path.
>The table that limits the amount of Ki spent on an elemental discipline spell does not apply to Fist of Unbroken Air, since it is not a spell.
>The option to spend extra Ki on Fist comes after the target rolls their saving throw.
>You can pump extra Ki into Fist for extra damage limited only by how much Ki you have remaining and you know if the target fails the save before you decide whether to spend that extra Ki.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:12:28 No.43313695 Report Delete

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>>43313028
Hex is more powerful than hunter's mark, and you never know when some cantrips and a 2nd-level spell might come in handy. Plus a fiendish pact can get you extra HP every time you drop a mook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:13:07 No.43313707 Report Delete

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>>43313695
How is hex more powerful than hunters mark?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:15:36 No.43313742 Report Delete

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>>43313503
Wow that never occured to me!

Jackass

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:22:42 No.43313839 Report Delete

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>>43313417

Challenge accepted!

>A mad wizard appears!
>he has two goals in life
>first, to sire the greatest and most terrible progeny in existence. A son to rule the world as his legacy. He can teach him magic, but human flesh is weak! Some superior stock must be added
>enter the mad wizard's second goal: to lay the greatest and most terrible monster of all time
>do not ask why
>seriously don't, he's a mad wizard
>wizard hunts down the tarrasque
>using a specialized spell he designed specifically for the purpose, he paralyzes it
>so begins the great work
>it is long, hard and torturous; the tarrasque does not actually have reproductive organs (Why would it, there's only one and its immortal) so the mad wizard (perhaps mad is not enough to describe him at this point) uses magic to warp its body to a more acceptable shape
>he does not realize that giving a beast of such proportions and appetites the ability to have sex would give it an appropriately sized libido as well
>the moment the transformation is complete it breaks free, then breaks him
>the mad wizard goes out with a smile, knowing his two goals are fulfilled

Some time later, enter a wandering half-human hybrid creature with a jacked-up appetite for food, fighting, and 'fun'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:31:13 No.43313977 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315048

lol who posted the terrasque backstory to /r/dndgreentext?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:37:52 No.43314042 Report Delete

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>>43313839
So it raped the wizard and impregnated him, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:49:32 No.43314162 Report Delete

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Tell me am i paladining right: Choosing tiefling, 13 on both str and con, 13 also on dex, sleight of hands is specced, always yell something cheesy when i attack, threaten the barbarian of the group for trying to intimidate civvies and stuffing a goblin wizard that shot a magic missile at me from the back once he promised to not attack into a dead bugbear whose head i had smashed to pulp with his own mace right after almost drowning and severely beating the said goblin wizard?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:52:55 No.43314207 Report Delete

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>>43314162
sounds like a shitty unoptimized character. only 13 on your two primary stats? why have any dex at all if youre going str?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:55:14 No.43314244 Report Delete

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>>43314162
Str or Dex - pick out one that you can do, okay? ONE that you can do as opposed to a whole bunch of them that you don't know what the hell you're doing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:55:15 No.43314245 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43314263 >>43314270 >>43314328

>>43314207
Shitty rolls, 'sides i don't give a shit about optimizing when i have 18 charisma so i can pretty much persuade the trees from growing

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:55:54 No.43314249 Report Delete

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>>43314162

>Tiefling Paladin
>13 on Strength and Con and Dex
>uses a mace
>sleight of hand

Sounds like you are in full scrub mode

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:56:57 No.43314263 Report Delete

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>>43314245
>hey guys hows my character?

>Uh, it sucks, wtf are you doing?

>LOL LIKE I CARE ANYWAYS GEEZ

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:57:49 No.43314270 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43314293

>>43314245
>rolling for ability scores in 5e
It's like your DM didn't want to run a good campaign

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 12:59:41 No.43314293 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317572

>>43314270

Yep, if you absolutely have to roll stats then have the group roll a shared array so that everyone is equally awesome or shitty

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:01:53 No.43314313 Report Delete

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Even Sephiroth is less mary sue than this half dwarf half tarrasque, how is that possible?

Holy shit, I need an edgy fedora I teleport behind your back nothing personel tier story to remove this dumb from my head

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:03:16 No.43314328 Report Delete

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>>43314245
>He thinks an 18 on Cha can allow him to do shit
Dude, I have a 20 on str and a 8 yo street urching still can beat me barehanded, your 18 on Cha means shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:06:32 No.43314368 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43314411

>>43314162
YOU SEE?

WHAT DID I TELL YOU FUCKERS ABOUT 5E TIEFLINGS?

SPERGMAGNETS!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:10:13 No.43314411 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43314582

>>43314368
The anon you're linking to is just dumb. You're the only sperg here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:10:47 No.43314421 Report Delete

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>>43314042
>beast
>bondage (sort of)
>transformation
>rape
>mpreg

How many more fetishes can we add to this story?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:11:17 No.43314429 Report Delete

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I'm totally using this as a character or NPC
>Half-orc Valor Bard/Barbarian
>Claims his human father (also a bard) seduced and layed a Tarrasque and he is the result
>Anyone who claims otherwise gets a faceful of lute until they relent and "believe" his powerful heritage

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:18:18 No.43314505 Report Delete

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>>43313184

Now, clearly, summoning a Terrasque is impossible. So what other alternatives are there?

At 14th level, a wizard of the Illusion school can use Illusory Reality to make his illusions have a physical presence. The illusion has to be "inanimate", but I would argue that a non-moving stationary illusion of a creature, say, a presenting female Terrasque would be considered inanimate.

Programmed Illusion appears to be the most powerful illusion spell that can summon a creature, though it can only do up to 30 feet. However, to a very drunk man, a Terrasque that was merely a Huge instead of a Gargantuan creature could be passable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:23:40 No.43314582 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43314659 >>43314684

>>43314411
eat shit retard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:29:13 No.43314659 Report Delete

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>>43314582
Uh oh, someone needs their hug blanket

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:30:58 No.43314684 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315217

>>43314582
Sounds like you play tieflings in 5e.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:37:40 No.43314797 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43314932

Spergs gonna sperg independently of the race, removing tieflins will do absolutely nothing, I know because I banned them a long time ago and had to ban any other race till only humans were allowed and they still kept bringing edgy fedora tier shit to games, the only thing you can to do is remove the player, not the race.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:46:46 No.43314932 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315013

>>43314797
>the only thing you can to do is remove the player, not the race.

But how can I be passive-aggressive if I deal with my problems directly like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:51:45 No.43314998 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315228 >>43315243 >>43315422

So I'm reckless attacking all day erre day but I seem to not crit at all, are out there uncommon or just rare magic weapons that give you better chances to crit? Is champion3 dip my only option? I want to use my damn brutal critical and savage attacks features

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:52:13 No.43315005 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315038 >>43315045 >>43315049

Being the offspring of a tarrasque isn't any more retarded than having dwagon ancestry

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:52:34 No.43315013 Report Delete

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>>43314932
You can easily be passive aggressive to the problem players without being as roundabout mechanically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:54:06 No.43315038 Report Delete

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>>43315005
Except dragons can polymorph and some are willing to have sex with other races.
So there's that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:54:33 No.43315045 Report Delete

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>>43315005
Dragons have the means and various reasons for doing so, and aren't nearly as rare and powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:54:53 No.43315048 Report Delete

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>>43313977
Kill yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:54:56 No.43315049 Report Delete

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>>43315005
Dragons can turn into humans or elves, dragons have genger, dragons aren't forces of nature with the only purpose of destroy shit (therefore not designed with genitalia) et fucking c

What you're asking is being the offspring of a nuke missile

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:55:00 No.43315050 Report Delete

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>>43312871
Gentleman, there's a critical clue we've all been overlooking. His father is a dwarf.

Clearly, both the Wizard and the Tarrasque were actually Loki, since Loki has a precedent for doing shit like this (see Sleipnir), and for generally fucking around with dwarfs and doing weird shit for bizarre reasons.

From this, and the rest of Sleipnir's myth, we can conclude that OP's true goal is not, in fact, to become a Tarrasque, but to be constantly ridden by Odin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:55:39 No.43315062 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315090 >>43315101 >>43315139 >>43315161

>>43313417
Unless your backstory is "Tarrasque ate my X! I became an adventurer to go and kill it!" the tarrasque should never show up in your backstory at all.

Actually I will go so far as to say that unless you are a Half-orc or possibly a tiefling or dragonborn none of your parents should EVER be a non-playable creature.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:57:11 No.43315090 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315097 >>43315114 >>43315133 >>43315140 >>43315809

>>43315062
>dragonborn
Didn't know dranborn were actual offsprings of dragons, I thought they were more like experiments of them ala Morgoth and his orcs

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:57:16 No.43315092 Report Delete

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What would be the minimum level that you would throw a Blackrazor (or equivalent sentient weapon) to your group?

Alternatively, how would you gimp Blackrazer (specifically) for a level 6~7 party?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:57:38 No.43315097 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43315090
Depends on the setting

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:57:54 No.43315101 Report Delete

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>>43315062
The could be undead, cursed or otherwise transformed since procreation. But saying your daddy got bit by a werewolf just avoids the issue, I suppose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:58:53 No.43315114 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315724 >>43315809

>>43315090
In my setting dragonborn are half-dragons because "fuck dragonborn lore"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:00:16 No.43315133 Report Delete

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>>43315090
In my setting dragonborn are the offspring of multiple dragons and humanoid races in ancient times that bred true.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:00:29 No.43315139 Report Delete

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>>43315062
>badwrongfun

*slaps you with a tentacle*

Fuck you, my mother was raped by a roper.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:00:30 No.43315140 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315164 >>43315213 >>43315256 >>43315809

>>43315090
Half-dragons, see MM, are actual offspring of dragons.

Dragonborn are descended from a dragon. They have a drop of dragon blood in their family tree.

Which is why it is so frustrating to me that they fucking look exactly like half dragons and can breath fire and shit. 4E fucked everything up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:01:38 No.43315161 Report Delete

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>>43315062
>"Tarrasque ate my ex!"
>"Your ex-girlfriend?"
>"Yeah."
>"Why'd you break up?"
>"I just told you, she got eaten!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:01:45 No.43315164 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315291

>>43315140
Dominant genes I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:05:00 No.43315213 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315299 >>43315809

>>43315140
Which is the exact reason I made half-dragons and dragonborn the same thing in my settting. Dragonborn can only breed with other dragonborn which is why you will find small groups of them.

DnD does not need both dragonborn and half dragons

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:05:21 No.43315217 Report Delete

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>>43314684
aaaaaand point made.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:05:59 No.43315228 Report Delete

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>>43314998
Get a more random d20.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:07:02 No.43315243 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315281

>>43314998
fuck it and go assassin.
it's not on all the time, but when it is, your to hit IS your critical range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:08:09 No.43315256 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315333 >>43315379

>>43315140
>Which is why it is so frustrating to me that they fucking look exactly like half dragons and can breath fire and shit. 4E fucked everything up.
But in 4e they're descendants of human slaves transformed by the Dragon rulers of Arkhosia to resemble dragons, not descendants of Dragons. You don't even know anything about what you're pissed about!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:09:44 No.43315281 Report Delete

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>>43315243
We just went over barbarian rogues, let's not get into it again

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:10:20 No.43315291 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315328

>>43315164
Dominant genes, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:10:44 No.43315299 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315565 >>43315575

>>43315213
I like dragonborn, the idea is super cool, but not when they look like deformed reptilian monsters.

They need to just look like exotic, humans, maybe strangely pigmented skin, hair or eyes. Maybe a hint of sharp fangs. Slightly taller and larger than most. A dragonborn is mostly human, can you imagine finding a wife if you are a 7 foot tall lizard thing?

The same thing with people who have a trace of djinn in their blood, they shouldn't look like a cartoon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:12:48 No.43315328 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43315291
LIQUIIIIIIID

Ocelot was cooler than you

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:13:19 No.43315333 Report Delete

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>>43315256
>You don't even know anything about what you're pissed about!
Welcome to /tg/

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:16:38 No.43315379 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315578 >>43315809

>>43315256
Well, so I guess I blame 5E, but allowing player characters to play things that look like devils and dragon mutants was 4E.

I remember my friend pointed how one of the selling points of playing a dragonborn was "getting to play a dragon!" in the Player's Handbook.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:19:29 No.43315419 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315487

Is there an easy way to gain a single point of Wis and proficiency in Arcana without taking the Feat/Ability Score improvement? I wanna multiclass into a spellcaster but if I can't get these prereqs in any other way I'd have to wait 6 levels

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:19:34 No.43315422 Report Delete

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>>43314998
Some artifacts can (some moon blades have the property, sword of kas). I thought there was a not sentient not artifact sword that could but I can't find it right now.

By DM fiat of course anything is possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:23:41 No.43315487 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315513 >>43315524

>>43315419
There's no way to gain ability scores except through Ability Score Improvement and a few rare class features like the barbarian's increase to Strength at high levels.

Multiclassing doesn't have any skill proficiency requirement, though. Dunno where you got that from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:25:57 No.43315513 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43315487
And tomes/manuals which are super rare

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:26:19 No.43315524 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315564 >>43315906

>>43315487
Prestige class, sorry. Unearthed Arcana has a thing for Rune Mage and I wanted to take a dip in that to get some utility spells, but to get it you need 13 Wis and proficiency in the skill Arcana

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:28:58 No.43315564 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315801

>>43315524
What kinds of utility spells? The Ritual Caster or Magic Initiate feats might be enough for you and not involve losing many levels of your main class.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:29:04 No.43315565 Report Delete

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>>43315299
You'd probably like spellscales. They were in races of the dragon.

But really, be reasonable. Dragonborn are just half-dragons without level adjustment. Making them more human would be missing the point. Also, your preferences are wholly arbitrary.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:30:00 No.43315575 Report Delete

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>>43315299
Do your dragonborn live in paintings and have extremely fluffy tails?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:30:18 No.43315578 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315706 >>43315809 >>43315945

>>43315379
Both tieflings and dragonborn predate 4e.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:37:43 No.43315706 Report Delete

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>>43315578
4e fundamentally changed what they were and made them core.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:38:24 No.43315724 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315738

>>43315114
Your setting sounds dumb as fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:38:37 No.43315728 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Anyone have tips for DMing with a sentient weapon in the mix?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:39:03 No.43315738 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315754

>>43315724
You and it have something in common.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:39:59 No.43315754 Report Delete

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>>43315738
We both hate the piece of shit opinion you have of dragonborn?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:43:29 No.43315801 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315953

>>43315564
It depends on what Rune I choose. Let's take the Fire rune for example.

>Set shit on fire as an action
>Extinguish shit in a 10ft space, 20 more feet if using a spell slot
>Resistance to Cold
>Use an Action to deal 1d10 fire damage plus 1d10 per spell slot used
>Over the course of a short rest, set a weapon on fire for an hour, dealing Fire damage instead of slashing, piercing, or blunt. Use a spell slot to basicly make it a +N weapon where N=the spell level/3. Lasts 24 hours
>Whenever Fire damage is dealt, you may reroll the damage and take the higher result

The other elements all have stuff like this. The Stone one lets you kill an enemies movement, lets you see anything that's on a stone floor within 30 ft, cast Meld into Stone once per short rest, and knock shit prone if you roll max damage on melee attacks.

Really, all I want is more interesting combat. I'm a fury barbarian and all my combat options amount to if I decide to use Fury to get a third attack or not. This seems like a good way to get that, especially since Rune magic was made by Giants. My character more or less worships giants

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:44:00 No.43315809 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43315578
>>43315379
>>43315140
>>43315213
>>43315090
>>43315114

3.5 had the first playable dragon races

you can use that lore instead if you don't like 4 or 5th's lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:48:38 No.43315870 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317887

Does anyone know why WotC hasn't made dragon shout knockoffs yet? It seems like every group I've seen really wants to use those.

It wouldn't even be difficult; FRD for example could be accomplished with a slightly less shit version of Gust of Wind on a recharge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:51:42 No.43315906 Report Delete

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>>43315524
ask the DM to give you a Master Rune (this will eat up your magic item allocation), and mc into some other casting class?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:53:36 No.43315942 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43315967 >>43315975 >>43315995 >>43316013

>Dodge action and danger sense from barbarian so double advantage to Dex saves
>GM "the floor is uneven so you have disadvantage lol"
>Fireballs my face
>"Uneven floor" nevers appear in the encounter again, specially not for enemies
Why is this allowed?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:53:44 No.43315945 Report Delete

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>>43315578
He's trying to make 4e the core of everything he hates. Stop trying to block his path with logic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:54:16 No.43315953 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316090

>>43315801
So you don't need any particular kind of effect, you just want more things to do. Got it. This might not be the best way to go about it, though. First, you're never going to get those prerequisites without wasting some ability score improvements/feats. Second, one of the prerequisites is a complete DM fiat. The DM has to include runes in the game world, and you have to find one. That might not happen. Third, you won't even be able to cast spells while raging, and the rune you find might not even have anything you want. Strongly consider other options.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:55:09 No.43315967 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316037

>>43315942
because you didn't pay for the pizzas or bring a drink.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:55:54 No.43315975 Report Delete

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>>43315942
Probably just wanted the encounter to go from mind numbingly easy to very slight challenge?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:56:44 No.43315995 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316037

>>43315942
Advantage doesn't stack, although if he made some shit up to cancel your class feature, you need to talk with him.
Unless you didn't bring snacks when you were supposed to.
Scrooge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:56:49 No.43315996 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316043 >>43316580

>>43312464
>http://mikeschley.zenfolio.com/p150074822/h5ea715c3#h5ea715c3

Yo one of you fucks is loaded and has bought this I know it

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:57:56 No.43316013 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316468 >>43316713

>>43315942
That better than the "This is a small closed room, I don't understand why should you have a dex save so you don't" the other day my DM pulled off his ass
Skipped saturday's game, because I need time to think if I should still play with this dude

Room was 20x20 btw

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:59:34 No.43316037 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316063

>>43315995
>>43315967
I didn't know I was in charge of bringing any food, also two weeks ago I brought tons of donuts, that has to count for something, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:59:43 No.43316040 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316094

The players are on rowboats, pulling a ship attached to the rowboats by rope, trying to get to a mast floating in the water.
They have just encountered a massive beast from the water while on the ship, it was a fun encounter. Enemy had like 300 HP and was just a giant tentacle coming out of the water and smashing into the ship. Every enemy attack was a DEX save, half of the crew of the ship died, ship is in horrible condition. They cut the tentacle off and the underwater beast left.

Now they're trying to get to the mast. How do I make that difficult? Any ideas?

I was thinking maybe sirens, but that would derail the entire campaign. I just need an obstacle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 14:59:54 No.43316043 Report Delete

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>>43315996
I really want it too. If a leak hasnt popped up by tomorrow night ill buy it for us and share it with you guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:00:56 No.43316063 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316073

>>43316037
Well I guess you DONUT get advantage!!!!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:01:42 No.43316073 Report Delete

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>>43316063

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:02:53 No.43316090 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316110 >>43316115 >>43316249

>>43315953
Any suggestions for a Fury Barbarian then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:03:11 No.43316094 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316185

>>43316040
sharks. they're attracted by the bloody waters, and fun!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:04:23 No.43316110 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316181

>>43316090
Fighter for action surge and champ crits. If you wanted to do more than just attack every round you shouldnt have played a barbarian. maybe tavern brawler feat for the grapple/shove shenanigans?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:04:40 No.43316115 Report Delete

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>>43316090
Chill down for a bit?

you can't into spells, raging will break concentration anyway. your best bets for multiclassing and getting more options are the other martials, maybe some of the spelless ranger variants?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:08:30 No.43316181 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316283 >>43316369 >>43318252 >>43318280

>>43316110
>If you wanted to do more than just attack every round you shouldnt have played a barbarian.
Yeah, I know. It's my first character and I came into this thinking DnD was way more complicated then it actually was.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:09:03 No.43316185 Report Delete

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>>43316094

>Jaws comes in
>Players fight Jaws
>Then suddenly Bigger Jaws comes in
>They now have a common enemy and must work together
>Jaws dying at the end of the encounter
>Player Paladin gives a funeral ceremony for him as the Bard plays Amazing Grace on his lute

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:09:38 No.43316198 Report Delete

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>DM doing another massive time skip (7 years)
>unsure, second big timeskip we've done, character getting into his 30s
>bring up childhood friend who runs the church of Rao he founded
>say he'd start settling down now that he's seen so much
>gets closer to her
>start dating, get married
>she's pregnant
>tfw nerdy sorcerer acolyte is living the most comfy life possible

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:11:56 No.43316249 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43316090
If you really want to cast spells before combat that you don't need to concentrate on, maybe war cleric. Dragon sorcerer or bladesinger would improve your unarmored AC if your DM allows it. Or even take Magic Initiate to get some utility cantrips and a spell like Bless.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:13:17 No.43316272 Report Delete

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>>43316198
For my fellow DMs how do you adapt elements pre-existing in D&D into your setting? Do you abandon the notions laid out in the PHB to do something completely different or do you keep elements and twist them so that there is still some recognition without it being just copy-paste.
Ex: I'm going full edgelord for my drow so Lolth is actually a giant spider, matriarchs are beings much like that as they emulate her, favored sons and daughters are turned into driders, and disfavored are castrated and turned into some kind of thrall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:13:31 No.43316274 Report Delete

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>>43316198
>DM doing another massive time skip (7 years)
>Aarakocra dies
Yay!

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:13:40 No.43316276 Report Delete

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>>43313329
>look at any picture of a dwarf spelunking.
>it is now climbing through the cave-cunt of a tarrasque
Enjoy, anon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:14:01 No.43316283 Report Delete

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>>43316181

>I can't do anything because I'm stuck in the class I am in

PHB page 163; Chapter 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:15:55 No.43316316 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43316272
cool story, bro

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:19:04 No.43316369 Report Delete

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>>43316181
Well, it is when you play a class with spells. But when you play a class that just hits things, don't be surprised when it JUST hits things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:24:43 No.43316468 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316549

>>43316013
depends on what you were saving from. sounds legit though on the surface.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:29:18 No.43316549 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316616

>>43316468
Yeah, if it's a fireball, that whole room is full of fireball. The ability of a rogue with evasion to avoid all damage from an area effect when there's literally nowhere to dodge to has been called the Mystic Pretzel technique.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:31:12 No.43316580 Report Delete

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>>43312464
>>43315996
>>43316043

I don't have the spare cash right now, but if you use the promo code "SchleyCoast" you can get 15% off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:31:46 No.43316590 Report Delete

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What are your guys' opinions on melee attacks against prone targets with reach weapons? Since I'm playing adventure league so I have to follow the book completely I have no choice, but what would you rule it as for a home game?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:33:45 No.43316616 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316703 >>43316791

>>43316549
the DM is right.
who the fuck builds a room that's smaller than a fireball, with nothing to hide behind? a wizard, that's who.
it was a prepared position for a fireball attack, otherwise you'd have gotten a save.
was it a trap, maybe? or was the caster able to run away immediately after casting, in some hidden tunnel?

bad form for the dm, tho. he should have given you a save... with disadvantage.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:34:37 No.43316630 Report Delete

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>>43316590
It's pretty clear-cut. Within 5 feet, advantage. Outside of that, disadvantage.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:38:37 No.43316684 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316722

>>43316590
In my opinion it should be a normal attack roll, no advantage or disadvantage. It's a trade-off between your enemy being down on the ground and you being a little farther away.

In fact I thought the prone rules specifically referred to RANGED attacks from more than 5 feet, but it looks like it's any attack roll.

How does this work with something like Spiritual Weapon? It's a melee spell attack, but the spellcaster could be 60 feet away.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:40:18 No.43316703 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316747 >>43316752

>>43316616
People build rooms that are smaller than 40 feet by 40 feet all the time. In fact, D&D rooms tend to suffer from gigantism with way more room to move around than in most indoor spaces.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:40:58 No.43316713 Report Delete

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>>43316013
I'd have instakill'd you, because, it's a fucking huge explosion, noone can survive that, so be thankful your DM at least let you soak it with HPs

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:41:44 No.43316722 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316778

>>43316684
Prone specifies the range of the attack, not a ranged or melee attack.

Spiritual weapon summons a weapon that attacks on its own.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:43:40 No.43316747 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316837

>>43316703
This.
When I first started DMing, I remember I didn't give half a shit about room size.

But as time has gone on, I find it very hard to describe places that actually were meant to serve a function, given that furnishings and room size tend to get in the way for post-AD&D's "everything is 5-ft squares"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:44:05 No.43316752 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316835

>>43316703
but those rooms aren't empty, and in this edition cover stops a spell.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:46:00 No.43316778 Report Delete

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>>43316722
>Prone specifies the range of the attack, not a ranged or melee attack.

That's what I'm saying, I wish they'd thrown the word "ranged" in there so it only applied to ranged weapon attacks and ranged spell attacks, but not melee weapon attacks (like a reach weapon) or melee spell attacks (like Spiritual Weapon, which is explicitly a melee spell attack even if the weapon is away from you).

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:46:37 No.43316791 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316889 >>43316919

>>43316590
There are a lot of times when "within 5 feet" should be "within reach". I'd say poking a prone guy with a pike would still have advantage.

>>43316616
>Fireball = no save
In my headcanon, fireballs and other dex-save AoEs have damagey bits (wide strips of flame?) that explode from the center without simultaneously covering the entire area. That provides the chance for a particularly agile dude to avoid the brunt of the damage by moving to a slightly less-affected area, while only the slipperiest guy alive could make it out unscathed.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:48:01 No.43316811 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316826 >>43316854 >>43316862

If I've played a shitload of Wizards of the Coast PC RPGs like Neverwinter Nights and Baldurs Gate how much familiarity do I have with D&D rules? I'm hoping I enough basic understanding to get into a game with coaching. Also, I hope this isn't asked too much, but how do you go about finding public games? Just go to a comic shop type place and ask about it?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:49:05 No.43316826 Report Delete

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>>43316811

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:49:34 No.43316832 Report Delete

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thoughts on the Dead Background?

http://worldbuilderblog.me/2015/10/27/new-background-dead/

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:50:03 No.43316835 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316893 >>43317032

>>43316752
TOTAL cover stops a spell. A chair won't stop a spell.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:50:08 No.43316837 Report Delete

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>>43316747
>post-AD&D's "everything is 5-ft squares"

I don't know, AD&D maps seem to have that problem too. Why is every corridor 10 ft wide?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:51:22 No.43316854 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317972

>>43316811
Depends how much you cared about the mechanics of those games. 5E is a lot simpler.

>how do you go about finding public games? Just go to a comic shop type place and ask about it?

Go for it. They might have a noticeboard or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:51:48 No.43316862 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316882 >>43316943

>>43316811
>>43316826

in all honest the PHB and the vidyas don't give all that much influence on the setting

the new SCAG book and the 3.5 Forgotten Realms Gazeteer and Campaign book aside, you could also do what I did in the beginning and play NWN 1 and read the Icewind Dale Trilogy by R.A. Salvatore like my friends and I did. I think most books with the Forgotten Realms logo on them do the setting some decent justice.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:52:48 No.43316882 Report Delete

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>>43316862

>influence*

I meant "information"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:53:12 No.43316889 Report Delete

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>>43316791
No, AoE spells are instant, be thankful you get to not instally die.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:53:21 No.43316893 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317032

>>43316835
dive and flip a table, or drop under the bed, you have your cover.
but if a room was built to be a killing zone, then it would be completely empty, with an heavy door that snaps close before the fireball.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:55:13 No.43316919 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316951

>>43316791
That's the only way to make dex saves for fireballs make sense, really.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:57:03 No.43316943 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316983

>>43316862

>I think most books with the Forgotten Realms logo on them do the setting some decent justice.

>new default setting for Advanced Dungeons & Dragons

>lots of details left intentionally vague for the DM to flesh out

>whole areas and events go unexplained with the promise they'll never have published materials elaborating on them

>basically a generic Tolkien fantasy world stripped down to the basics with a few twists and added D&D material

>there are important NPCs from Greenwood's home games but new adventurers really can matter and make a difference

>reviewers praise it for not being like Dragonlance which was a novel series first and a campaign setting second

The setting didn't need doing justice. It needed leaving alone.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:57:14 No.43316948 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43316973 >>43316980 >>43317026 >>43317043

Hey 5eg, I'm going to start DM'ing 5e after being a long time 3.P player. How necessary is a play mat in this edition?

If necessary, will this one do?
http://amzn.com/B0015IQO2O

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:57:31 No.43316951 Report Delete

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>>43316919
>Not being so agile you can go through atoms
Shitty dex build detected

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:58:44 No.43316973 Report Delete

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>>43316948
Not at all. They've made it compatible with Theater of the Mind, or with gridless minis and rulers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:59:08 No.43316980 Report Delete

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>>43316948
It's not totally necessary but it can help.

I think that's the one I have (the smaller one, anyway). It's a decent size for the price.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 15:59:29 No.43316983 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317053 >>43317134

>>43316943

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Sundering_(Dungeons_%26_Dragons)

so what now then? we are now currently in the "Oops sorry guise" edition. Still makes me somewhat interested in what their authors are going to write up.

I believe I heard from some article that there was an AL coordinator who said that WotC really doesn't give a fuck about what players did in their games, and that they aren't really going to utilize people's games into the novels like they said they would. Kind of a bummer.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:02:33 No.43317026 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317377

>>43316948
>How necessary is a play mat in this edition?

Not at all. One of the design goals was to allow for "theater of the mind" play. Miniatures and a battle grid are now an optional rule, although everything is still measured in 5-foot increments.

But if you like using miniatures and a grid, that is a really great battle mat. It feels tough and durable, plus it's nice that one side is squares and the other is hexes. Just make sure you get the right pens for it (water-soluble overhead transparency markers, not dry erase markers).

To keep things fast you can always alternate. If there's one ogre and positioning isn't important, you can always forgo the grid. The fighter and barbarian run into melee range, the spellcasters and ranged attackers stay back 60 feet, etc. That's all you really need to know.

Or do something in between, like this:
http://slyflourish.com/fate_style_zones_in_5e.html

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:02:42 No.43317032 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317087 >>43317178

>>43316835
>>43316893
That's the sign of a new or inexperienced DM. A DM might make a killing zone, have the wizard take a sweet ass time (like 2 to 5 turns) to strike, while he preps his wand of Fireball, giving the players plenty of time to A: create a shieldwall, B: Get behind the desiccated bodies of the previous adventurers that have been fried alive here or C: try to diplomacy/bluff/charm their way out of this.

The thing most DMs are oblivious is that D&D, and any RPG, really, is a game about giving options to your players and accepting their options as viable solutions, NOT take them AWAY from them. Creativity should always be taken in consideration in a creative game.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:03:23 No.43317043 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317377

>>43316948
I don't think they're necessary but they definitely help, if for no other reason than to just keep track of the players/enemies. Otherwise you have people constantly asking if they're close enough to attack or if they can move close enough to attack, and then they forget if there's enemies or whatever.

It just kinda depends on what your group is used to and if you have a lot of dudes.

I have that mat and it works great. Just make sure not to leave the ink on overnight.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:03:56 No.43317053 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317906

>>43316983
You can't go surveying every local game group looking for novel material. And organized play events that decide some plot point based on how many players win from each faction just doesn't work well. Ask anyone who follows L5R.

Honestly, what needed changing was that FR was increasingly a story about the gods and their misadventures. They kept doing all this wacky shit and mortals just had to react and survive. They're claiming to change that and maybe it will stick this time.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:05:37 No.43317087 Report Delete

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>>43317032
I was thinking it was more likely a trap, and the rogue would have seen it (or rather, something) coming while examining the door from the outside, then the pressure plate that would have closed the door... but if the trap guy isn't up on his stuff, on goes the oven.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:06:40 No.43317107 Report Delete

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>>43313036
>the Tarrasnatch and the Tarrawomb.

This has had to be a setup.

Either way, it's gonna get archived.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:08:20 No.43317134 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317233

>>43316983
From what I understand (I haven't read SCAG yet) the point of The Sundering was to reset the Realms to the 1E/2E era. Before it was announced I remember rumours that they were just going to retcon/undo/ignore everything, sort of like the new Star Wars continuity.

I think some kind of market research (or just /tg/ making stuff up) revealed that there isn't that much crossover between people who read the novels and people who play the tabletop game.

I like the stance (explained in the 5E PHB and DMG) that your version of the Realms is just another parallel world in the vast multiverse. Obviously the DM can always change things, but it's nice to have this explanation in case anyone pipes up about how in one novel Drizzt did X therefore Y and...

Other people's home games aren't canonical to my version of the Realms, likewise the novels aren't canonical to my version of the Realms. Simple as.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:11:23 No.43317178 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317234 >>43317279 >>43317334

>>43317032
Letting the players' plans work even though they're bad plans, or making an enemy spellcaster awkwardly take several turns to cast a single spell just to keep the players alive, is bad DMing in the other extreme. It takes the players right out of the game and makes them realize the campaign is rubber-banding them to victory.

I strive to make the players' plans work exactly as well as they should. Creativity is only rewarded if it's not creatively stupid. I have a player whose rogue is always trying half-baked schemes like leaping into pit traps to rescue people when he doesn't even have a way to save himself, or spending a couple of turns tying himself to a monster without any idea what to do after that. They fail, because of course they fail. But if he ever gets a good idea, I'm going to let it be a good idea.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:14:18 No.43317233 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317281

>>43317134

I have a player in my POTA group who keeps asking me questions about the state of Faerun now as opposed to when he read Legend of Drizzt, and I'm like "I have no idea..." So I'm figuring I'll just read at least this first Sundering book and then I'll have an answer for him.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:14:24 No.43317234 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317310

>>43317178
And remove features from the player's PC because you feel like that is good GMing?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:17:30 No.43317279 Report Delete

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>>43317178
And removing class features is good GMing?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:17:35 No.43317281 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317373

>>43317233
The Legend of Drizzt is a whole lot of books covering a fair amount of time. The takeaway is that Drizzt had been faffing around in the Underdark killing demons for a while, Bruenor is still trying to rule Gauntylgrym and leaving Mithral Hall to slowly crumble, and the humans from the books are dead because it's been a few centuries. And any god you've heard of who ever died is back to life.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:19:49 No.43317310 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317426

>>43317234
>>43317279
Not letting them work when it's absolutely silly to let them work is not the same as removing them forever. I'm not that anon who put players in a tiny empty room with a fireball, and I don't do that sort of thing as a matter of habit, but yeah, if that happened I wouldn't let Evasion work.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:21:44 No.43317334 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317441

>>43317178
Another good example of bad DMing is considering the Wizard overlord of the tower/dungeon/whathaveyou has nothing better to do than to sit in a corridor besides a 240square feet room waiting for adventurers to enter there and then he promptly fries then and... what, gets back to waiting?

I try to make my NPCs have more life-like qualities to them. For example, if the players didn't make a lot of noise, the Wizard would be oblivious to them and would need several turns of rushing down the stairs, getting the right wand and then putting it in the wand-sized-hole before exploding the room, giving the players ample time to prepare for it.
1. Dousing their clothes in water,
2. Creating a shieldwall with their wet backpacks, etc,
3. Casting protective spells,
4. Trying to delay the wizard by talking to him, etc.

Otherwise, your approach is reasonable and good ideas SHOULD be rewarded and bad ideas SHOULD be discouraged, but you should not ever take away the agency of your players, no matter how stupid it is. After all, it's the only thing they have.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:24:23 No.43317373 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317400 >>43317427

>>43317281
Actually, Bruenor and the rest of Drizzt's companions have been reincarnated by Mielikki in a plot to save the Drow. It's the plot of the Sundering book by R.A. Salvatore called The Companions.

Honestly, its a pretty decent book!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:24:34 No.43317377 Report Delete

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>>43316973
>>43316980
>>43317026
>>43317043

Thanks, staying cheap it is!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:24:46 No.43317378 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317974

>>43312332
Are you Elliot Hulse?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:26:07 No.43317400 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317574

>>43317373
Aww, sounds lame. They're never going to let those bastards die.

Is that why Minsc is still alive, too?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:26:21 No.43317406 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317503

Would it be worth taking Magic Initiate on a Tempest Cleric for Booming Blade? It doesn't scale with a casting modifier in anyway, you'd only be making one melee attack every round and it stacks with Divine Strike nicely too.

The only drawback is that it takes a feat slot, but if you're a Variant Human that's not a big deal.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:27:40 No.43317426 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43317310
>Evasion
He's talking about normal dex save, not to avoid all damage, just to get half, holy fuck do people read when they reply?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:27:39 No.43317427 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317538 >>43317574 >>43317612

>>43317373
God, I dread to imagine how the americans will butcher that name in the audiobooks

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:28:33 No.43317441 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317504 >>43317562

>>43317334
You can put a fireball inside a Glyph of Warding. Or have wizards cast spells down into pit traps that people have fallen into. There are ways to avoid either of these, but it just goes to show that the fireball-in-a-tiny-empty-room-with-no-room-to-dodge might happen in more ways than just a wizard hanging around behind the door waiting. Not that it should happen a lot, but it could.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:32:55 No.43317503 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317650

>>43317406
Eh, if you want. Clerics shouldn't be swinging in melee a lot anyway, but you can if you find it fun. What 1st level spell would you take?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:33:04 No.43317504 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317587

>>43317441
A glyph can be perceived by the rogue and promptly disarmed, a pit trap can be avoided.

My argument is that you should give your players choice, no matter how dumb they are, and never take away that choice or agency for that goes against... well, playing RPG in the first place. It's a power fantasy. So unless you are playing very strong Horror themes I say you consider how do they feel when you take away their power.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:33:09 No.43317506 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317587 >>43317591 >>43317596

>You get attacked by an assassin, 10 damage
>Ok
>And poison
>Ok, I will roll my Con save to av...
>No, you alread been cut, and is in your blood stream, it doesn't make sense that you can avoid it so 24 extra damage
>B-but
>Sorry, you're dead

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:33:27 No.43317511 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317688

I made compiled a grab-bag list of deities from the Realms, Greyhawk and a couple others. Anyone iconic I missed? Anyone who's redundant here?

Good:
Bahamut
Moradin
Yondalla
Pelor
Mystra
Corellon
Selûne
Tymora
Sune
Sehanine

Neutral:
Raven Queen
Erathis
Ioun
Oghma
Melora
Kossuth
Kord
Mask

Evil:
Asmodeus
Bane
Gruumsh
Tiamat
Vecna
Cyric
Umberlee
Malar
Talos
Tharizdun
Zehir
Lolth
Shar

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:35:50 No.43317538 Report Delete

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>>43317427
>(pronounced my-LEE-kee)

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:36:41 No.43317550 Report Delete

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>>43312871
This sounds more like the Wizard was a truly talented illusionist and that your dad is a moron.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:37:08 No.43317562 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317835

>>43317441
I don't like this premise because it implies that when you are in the middle of a normal fireball and you make the save, you somehow move out of the AOE and back in.

Fireballs have Dex saves when you are in the middle of a fireball because the fireball doesn't fill the whole space. Being in a 20x20 room when a fireball hits is no different from being in a 50x50 room when a fireball hits.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:37:56 No.43317572 Report Delete

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>>43314293
If you're gonna roll stats go hard and don't cry like a bitch if someone gets better rolls than you.

If that doesn't sound fair then do point buy.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:37:57 No.43317574 Report Delete

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>>43317427
Minsc is alive? I don't think so. Minsc died in the end of BG2 ToB, they say he lived the rest of his life in a cabin in Rashemen with Boo telling young Rashemani warriors about the wild tales of "Minsc and Boo *Squeak* Okay, Boo and Minsc".

>>43317400
I didn't check. I just read the E-Book really. I own that to ol' Sal, he got me into D&D way back in the day with the Icewind Dale Trilogy, and the Origin of Drizzt comic book.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:38:44 No.43317587 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317614 >>43317622 >>43317717

>>43317506
That's exactly how some poisons work in 5e. They just deal extra poison damage. Do you consider that unfair?

>>43317504
By extension, DMs shouldn't ever be allowed to let PCs die. If they had a chance to spot a trap and they failed and it goes off and kills them, or if they come up with a plan so dumb it can end in no way other than defeat, bullshitting some way into letting them choose to live is cheap and they'll never take you seriously after that.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:38:51 No.43317591 Report Delete

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>>43317506
Admittedly, the poison trap in the DMG doesn't have a save for avoiding the needle and the Con save is for avoiding the poisoned condition, not the initial damage.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:39:12 No.43317596 Report Delete

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>>43317506
My point exactly.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:40:14 No.43317612 Report Delete

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>>43317427
>>43317574
No, Mielikki.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:40:15 No.43317613 Report Delete

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>>43317574
Minsc is the main character of a new comic book series. I don't know how, and I love the guy, but come on, let him enjoy his retirement/death of old age/afterlife in peace.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:40:17 No.43317614 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317643

>>43317587
Most poisons give you a Save DC either against the damage, to reduce it to half or to avoid the Poisoned stat.

Do you even READ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:40:52 No.43317622 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317746

>>43317574
He got better.
>>43317587
>That's exactly how some poisons work in 5e. They just deal extra poison damage. Do you consider that unfair?
Not him, but your're misconstruing his argument. His is the DM is randomly ignoring rules in the name of being simulationist, when D&D has and never will be a simulation. You're arguing the DM is following the rules, which is simply not the case.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:42:12 No.43317643 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317772 >>43317799 >>43317829 >>43317863

>>43317614
And some, including the one called fucking Basic Poison, just add more poison damage. Don't start fingering the Caps Lock key so early; it'll embarrass you.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:42:32 No.43317650 Report Delete

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>>43317503
I dunno, probably a find familiar.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:43:17 No.43317668 Report Delete

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>So you're walking through this path what do you do?
>I...
>Sorry, these archers appeared in front of you, draw their arrows and fired at you, you have already been hit, and it was a crit, you're dead
>B-but

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:44:21 No.43317688 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317979

>>43317511
Anyone know why Mask is CN in 5e?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:45:48 No.43317717 Report Delete

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>>43317587
I agree. A DM that sees the players toiling in dumbness should act as if the characters are being dumb and that could, and SHOULD, kill them given the gravitas of the situation.

But that is not something a DM should Default to. If you can't explain to your players why they are being dumb then perhaps the dumb one is you. Have more humility and try to see their point of view, try making sense of it, and if everyone is accordance, yeah sure, kill those fuckers. Letting your players live in a situation they should, by all means, have gotten themselves killed is as bad as killing your players for no reason other than you thinking they are dumb.

There is a limit to how anti-social and self-absorbed one can be, and that's coming from me.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:46:10 No.43317723 Report Delete

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You people are making me miss the defenses from 4e

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:46:39 No.43317734 Report Delete

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>Still a better love story than Twilight the thread

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:47:27 No.43317746 Report Delete

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>>43317622
>>43317613
Hey, if he was properly brought back, cool. I love him and I think the Realms need more heroes like Minsc and Boo.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:48:35 No.43317766 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43317788

Does that mean volley is also unavoidable? cool, at least a small win for rangers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:49:00 No.43317772 Report Delete

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>>43317643
>And some, including the one called fucking Basic Poison, just add more poison damage
Basic poison in the PHB has a DC 10 Con save to avoid the extra damage altogether.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:49:47 No.43317788 Report Delete

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>>43317766
Yeah, if you use volley in a small enough room you'll hit all targets without even roll

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:50:10 No.43317799 Report Delete

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>>43317643
Yeah, the basic poison only deals 1d4 per attack for a minute. Some poisons deal scores of d6s and d10s of damage...

Are you so dense that you clump both of them in the same category? I really can't tell if you are being purposefully antagonistically, or just plain don't understand how a proper game of rpg works.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:51:20 No.43317829 Report Delete

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>>43317643
>it'll embarrass you
Maybe you should stop typing and READ THE DAMN MANUAL

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:51:27 No.43317835 Report Delete

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>>43317562
Things like fireballs and lightning bolts have dex saves because it matters how it hits you. A fireball to the back while you cover yourself with your cloak will cause less damage than a lightning bolt that hits you in the chest. But they're both magic and they're too big and fast to avoid completely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:51:27 No.43317836 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318200

I need a macguffin that can banish a god's corpse back to the plane it came from. What should it be?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:52:55 No.43317863 Report Delete

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>>43317643
>>43317772
Welp. I guess you DON'T READ them then.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:54:32 No.43317873 Report Delete

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>>43313089

I just declare them drunk when they drink what I think is enough, give them advantage on all Str, Con and Cha rolls, disadvantage on all Dex, Wis and Int rolls.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 16:59:30 No.43317887 Report Delete

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>>43315870
Thunderwave. Accept no substitutes. FRD *is* the knockoff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:01:02 No.43317906 Report Delete

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>>43317053
>Honestly, what needed changing was that FR was increasingly a story about the gods and their misadventures. They kept doing all this wacky shit and mortals just had to react and survive.

I recall reading a recent interview, where Greenwood openly stated he thought this was the worst thing about the Realms.
That there are books dedicated to the gods, and them doing all sorts of shit, and just being around and being clowns, when he has still never been allowed to simply make a book about what really matters and what the gods should mean in the realms.
Namely, the way they are worshipped, the day-to-day of different temples and clergy, and the fact that mortals should have a far greater impact in the campaign setting and have far more info about them, then these unknowable entities who are of absurd power who shouldn't be the stars of the show.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:03:14 No.43317957 Report Delete

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>>43317613
Why is Minsc so huge? Isn't he Rashemi?
Rashemi men are like 5 and a half feet.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:04:07 No.43317972 Report Delete

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>>43316854

Look for an Adventurers League game, or check the local nerd store for posting

And yeah, if you've played CRPG's you have a basic handle on how shit goes; you just need to learn the edition specific mechanics (easy) and get used to playing in a social manner, as opposed to solo gaming.

It's great, you'll love it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:04:09 No.43317974 Report Delete

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>>43317378
Ehh, pretty much any of the internet marketing fitness guys fits the bill.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:04:42 No.43317979 Report Delete

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>>43317688
Because they're shifting some deities and groups around to better fit the modern sensibilities.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:04:59 No.43317986 Report Delete

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>>43317957
>comic effect
>Rashemi women are even shorter.
>Retard huge.
Take your pick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:18:03 No.43318200 Report Delete

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>>43317836
A tiny coffin that you put inside the body.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:19:03 No.43318221 Report Delete

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>>43317613
His statue in Baldur's Gate gets animated.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:20:50 No.43318252 Report Delete

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>>43316181
Read up on all the actions you can take in combat. Grappling is immediately fun, and accessible if you're a strong barbarian. But other than that there's dashing, dodging, grabbing objects and using them as improvised weapons.

Why use a sword on a swarm of bats when a table has so much more surface area to smack with? Stuff like that. You're not gonna do all the damage you could be doing, but it's gonna be more fun. Depending on your build, you could be running around at the speed of sound or lifting huge things in combat, and you can try to think of weird ways to use that. There are mechanics for "taunting" creatures in that they focus on you and can't move a certain distance away from you, but see if your DM will just let you shit talk goblins and have them follow you around.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:22:30 No.43318280 Report Delete

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>>43316181
Alternately, take the feat that gives you battle master maneuvers, those are fun.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:31:03 No.43318423 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318465 >>43318496 >>43318560 >>43318887

I'm applying for a game that needs caster badly.
>Monk
>Paladin
>Rogue
>Fighter/Barbarian
is the impending lineup so far.
We're doing Out of the Abyss, but I don't want spoilers.
Any suggestions?
I thought maybe a wizard (gnome/ more likely human variant) or something along those lines, but we may need a healer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:31:59 No.43318438 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318493

Is there a decidedly best at DPR among Martials at all levels?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:33:02 No.43318465 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318515

>>43318423
Bladesinger

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:34:30 No.43318493 Report Delete

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>>43318438
Are you new?
Fighter(BM)>Paladin>Ranger(Hunter)>Barb>Rogue>Monk

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:34:34 No.43318496 Report Delete

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>>43318423

Based on what I've heard, I would recommend not going Wizard. I'd say go Sorc or Warlock. Or start out something else then multiclass into Wizard later.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:35:44 No.43318515 Report Delete

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>>43318465
I forgot to add, PHB only.
>>43318496
Sorc might be good. It might actually fit my backstory better, as well, especially after the later multiclass.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:36:41 No.43318542 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318578 >>43318579 >>43318585

>>43302942
It's just me or the monk of long death is terrible? How it's supposed to work?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:37:15 No.43318555 Report Delete

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>>43318515
>PHB only

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:37:45 No.43318560 Report Delete

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>>43318423
No spoilers but quick tip for playing in OoTA as a wizard, but your spellbook is pretty damn important, so not having is really hindering. Just keep that in mind.

Cleric and Bard are also full casters with plenty of utility based on what you want to do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:38:28 No.43318578 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318703

>>43318542
As a normal monk who gets temporary hit points when he drops shit dead, scares mofos and says no to death as long as he has ki. It's actually cool, why do you think is terrible?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:38:30 No.43318579 Report Delete

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>>43318542
It's just you.

At low levels it gains temp HP from killing things and can at-will fear, then it can spend a single ki to not die, with the only limit being how much ki it has to spend.

The cap is pretty much useless, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:38:53 No.43318585 Report Delete

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>>43318542

I don't think it's anything special. I'm about to Dm a game with a guy who is gonna go Long Death, so I'll see how it is in action soon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:40:09 No.43318620 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318999

>>43318515
>Core only
It begins

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:41:36 No.43318649 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318679 >>43318694 >>43318711

how does a cleric actually play?
I know spirit guardians is great, but do you just pop that (or bless instead), maybe spiritual weapon and go with melee atacks then?
or is sacred flame better than straight attacking?
answer for light and tempest cleric please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:43:09 No.43318679 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318822

>>43318649
Light clerics use Sacred Flame, Tempest Clerics use melee or ranged attacks or sacred flame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:44:18 No.43318694 Report Delete

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>>43318649

I've not played a Cleric yet, though I have several in queue waiting to be played. The ones I have seen are all packing heavy armor and martial weapons, so at early levels at least, I don't see much of a difference between them and Fighters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:44:38 No.43318703 Report Delete

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>>43318578
>>43318579
>>43318585
It's just that's suprsingly passive, considering they're an order dedicate to death. I mean, yes, they have the fear-at-will, but it's more a control tool, and not an offensive one. I would have expected some sort of ice and/or necrotic/negative damage on hit, or something similar, and not healing on kill/resist death by spending ki.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:44:59 No.43318711 Report Delete

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>>43318649
I have a multi cleric paladin. So it's different. But mostly you make your DM mad by spamming guidance everywhere you go for any check anyone does.

Then in combat he forgets you have tons of smite slots and when he sends monsters after you you destroy them.

So for cleric straight I imagine it's the same but spells instead of smite.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:48:27 No.43318749 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318819

Hey, need help very quickly- I want to have my players have higher than normal stats, should I have them roll 4d6+2 or 5d6 take three highest?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:52:05 No.43318819 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318854 >>43318875

>>43318749
14.24 vs 13.43 averages

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:52:10 No.43318822 Report Delete

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>>43318679
>>43318694
>>43318703
it's just kinda confusing, because it's a caster, but also some have heavy armor and martial weapons, so I was wondering how the play style actually turns out.
I'm itching to play one, but I'm doomed to be DM anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:53:28 No.43318854 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318875

>>43318819
Assuming you meant 4d6 drop lower +2

Also not 4d6D1+2 ranges from 5-20 instead of 5d6D2 ranges from 3-18

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:54:33 No.43318875 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43319001

>>43318819
>>43318854
You are a good man. Thank you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:54:37 No.43318879 Report Delete

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>>43318555
Nice trips, but core only is the best way to play. There are enough options in the PHB already for everyone to make their own special little snowflakes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:54:59 No.43318887 Report Delete

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>>43318423

Circle of the Land druid

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:56:10 No.43318912 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43318936 >>43318997

>>43312924
anyone have an opinion on this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:57:16 No.43318936 Report Delete

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>>43318912
Divination. Take the Lucky feat too if you really feel like having FUN.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:59:42 No.43318997 Report Delete

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>>43318912
it depends on the level.
diviner and illusionist are the most fun, but illusionist only works at high levels. the level 14 feature is incredible, it makes the image spells into walls (and more)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:59:49 No.43318999 Report Delete

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>>43318620
>>43318555

I can't blame them when these side books add shit like Favored Soul and Aarokcaora or however the fuck its spelled. It's easier to block it all outright than have a player whine later when you tell him his snowflake Goliath Bear-barb can't instakill people by crushing them with 2000 lb boulders.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 17:59:54 No.43319001 Report Delete

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>>43318875
http://rumkin.com/reference/dnd/diestats.php

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:02:01 No.43319035 Report Delete

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>>43318999
I had to reply reverse Satan, even though this was a fucking obvious bait.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:03:55 No.43319069 Report Delete

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>>43318822
That just means you stand wherever you want and do whatever you want, because you have as much AC as anyone and none of your attacks are disadvantaged at melee range.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:04:59 No.43319082 Report Delete

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>>43312924
Conjuration can be good if you can think of fun uses for minor conjuration
Divination for portent shenanigans
Evocation for AoE without giving a fuck
Illusion sounds fun, but mostly because of Illusory Reality, which only comes at lvl 14
Transmutation for transforming stone into silver, selling it and gtfo as fast as you can

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:12:59 No.43319212 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43319241

>>43318999
>People complaining about FS when Moon Druids exist
Come the fuck on

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:13:05 No.43319215 Report Delete

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>>43319082

You missed Abjuration, for spamming Shield and nullifying enemy mages.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:14:15 No.43319241 Report Delete

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>>43319212
Or valor bard

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:16:42 No.43319291 Report Delete

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>>43319215
imho Abjuration is playing it safe, not much fun in that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:18:55 No.43319343 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43319425 >>43319482

>>43318999
The fuck is wrong with Favoured Soul? It's basically a worse Valour Bard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:22:19 No.43319425 Report Delete

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>>43319343
Didn't you get the memo in 3.5? Not core = Broken/Powerful, FS is not core therefore is OP.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:24:07 No.43319455 Report Delete

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>>43319425
I played 3.5 for 5 years, and now my reward is being able to not play 3.5 and to leave it and its baggage behind.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:25:33 No.43319482 Report Delete

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>>43319343

Don't compare it to bards or other classes, compare it to the other Sorc paths, which it completely blows out of the water. It's basically Draconic Ancestry (which was already better than Wild Magic) + proficiencies for no reason + a 100% increase in spells known, on a class where the primary weakness is the small amount of spells known.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:32:12 No.43319595 Report Delete

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>>43319482
>Here, have medium armor, shields and simple weapons
>B-but my HPs are still d6
>Pic related
The only thing good about FS are the extra spells, almost nothing else

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:33:24 No.43319611 Report Delete

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>>43319482
i disagree, as you have to play with other classes.

The favored soul is not OP. If anything the normal sorc is too weak or the bard is too strong.

Right now in 4e we have the sorc, and then the bard which is better at almost everything except for metamagic gattling gun

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:39:45 No.43319701 Report Delete

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>>43319482
Other Sorc paths are the worst full caster though. You get metamagic sure but you get nothing to fucking use it with. If anything every Sorcerer archetype should have an expanded spell list to bring it in line with Favoured Soul. Favoured Soul's main gimmick is that it gets to have good AC, the weapon proficiencies are almost never useful because they're only simple weapons and using spells or cantrips is better 90% of the time. That they get a few extra spells at lower levels is a good thing, it makes them actually useful.

Compare the Storm Sorcerer now to the Storm Sorcerer from the Unearthed Arcana where it had an expanded spell list, it's shit and why would you ever play one over a Dragon or Wild Magic Sorcerer?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:46:26 No.43319814 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43319886 >>43319919 >>43321166

>>43319595

Exactly, you have a d6 hitdie. Why would you NOT want to try and improve your meager defenses?

>>43319611
>>43319701

So it seems like you're both conceding that this non-core path is significantly better than the ones in the PHB? Because that's the problem with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:48:17 No.43319848 Report Delete

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>>43302942
rolling a monk for the first time, whats the best path in terms of damage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:50:31 No.43319886 Report Delete

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>>43319848
Open Hand if you reach 17th level, none if you don't reach 17th level.

>>43319814
I'll guess you won't allow the new ranger if they ever make one that's worth a damn because it will be better than beastmaster, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:51:58 No.43319917 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43320037

>>43319482
you're losing sight of the design goals for the sorcerer, and just looking at how versatile he is.
some archetypes, instead, focus on dealing more damage.
note how of all the archetypes, the FS is the only one that doesn't get a straight boost to damage.
to compensate, they get the most versatility of the archetypes, extra spells, flight, defenses.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:52:05 No.43319919 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43320014

>>43319814
I bet you're one of those who didn't allow any splat to improve monks because, after all, it'd have improven monk and you can't have something better than other something from the Core.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:52:42 No.43319936 Report Delete

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>>43319848
Sun Monk is the only subclass to give you any damage abilities before level 17. Way of the for elements sucks so I don't count it

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:58:07 No.43320014 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43320048

>>43319919
Is this a core vs non-core debate or a published rules vs playtest fuckery debate? I don't see how this is core vs non-core splat book stuff.

Or are these class options from the new book?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 18:59:48 No.43320037 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43320085

>>43319886

Completely different scenario. Beastmaster is awful, even compared with the other Ranger path. If they come out with errata and improve Beastmaster, then that's a fix. Great. If they come out with a new Ranger path called the Animalking and it's just the Beastmaster but significantly better, then there's STILL a shitty path. Bad.

>>43319917

The design goal of the sorcerer is that he ISN'T versatile. The versatile caster is the Wizard. +5 max to damage is the only advantage Draconic gets over FS, and FS and Draconic get flight at the same level so I don't know why you bring that up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:00:10 No.43320044 Report Delete

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>>43320027

New Thread

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:00:16 No.43320048 Report Delete

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>>43320014
Aaracokra is published rules dude, same as bladesinger (the subclass that originated the "Only Core" argument)

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:01:53 No.43320085 Report Delete

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>>43320037
Some people think a higher HD is better than +3 to AC, so Draconic also gets that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:05:18 No.43320142 Report Delete

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>>43320085

Well, having access to medium armor means that you can save some points in Dex and put them in Con instead, so you can make up for the HP difference. Kind of a moot point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:56:22 No.43321166 Report Delete

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>>43319814
it is definitely better than something in core.

Which is fine. If something outside of core can help to rectify core imbalances, then it is a good thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 20:06:40 No.43321381 Report Delete

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Duergar should be +1 INT not +1 STR

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