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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:06:39 No.43305679 View Reply Report Delete

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:08:35 No.43305716 Report Delete

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>>43305679
Why do all Faerun GOO patrons have to be evil as fuck? Not even a neutral one.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:10:34 No.43305753 Report Delete

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Damn apes, running around appropriating our culture!

#DragonLivesMatter

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:11:39 No.43305780 Report Delete

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>>43305716
Wait for the Eberron Adventure Guide and that sweet, sweet Xoriat lore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:12:03 No.43305786 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307320 >>43308876

Where can I read up about the gods?
I must know more about Bane-sama

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:12:13 No.43305789 Report Delete

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>>43305753
Aren't dragonborn new to Faerun?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:16:04 No.43305860 Report Delete

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>>43305716
Go find Tome of Magic and look at the Pact Binder's Vestiges.
There's also some more if you look around, like
http://archive.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/psm/20070119a

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:16:34 No.43305866 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43305943 >>43305945 >>43309239

How are Paladins chosen in the Realms? Do they have a patron, or can someone just decide to be one?

I had an idea to make a Fighter (probably a PDK now that they're out) who was a Paladin in every way EXCEPT being the Paladin class. I had planned for him to simply be denied Paladin good by the gods for typically inscrutable reasons, but I wasn't sure if that was how it works.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:19:07 No.43305908 Report Delete

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Reminder that the disgusting lizards got the 'canon in every setting' treatment instead of glorious Warforged. Boycott WotC, free Eberron. Artificer is NOT a wizard subclass!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:19:18 No.43305913 Report Delete

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>>43305716
Don't use the given ones. Have your patron be an unnameable being from the far realm. It devours your dreams as a price for power that it doesn't even understand that it is giving you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:19:39 No.43305929 Report Delete

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>>43303380
Reworked those invocations

>Cursed Steel
>Prerequisite: 5th level, Pact of the Blade feature
>When you hit a creature with your Pact Weapon, you can designate that creature as a victim of your Pact Weapon's Curse. While a creature is under your Pact Weapon's Curse, you deal an additional +2 damage with your Pact Weapon attacks. This extra damage increases to +4 at 10th level and to +6 at 15th level. You can only have one creature Cursed at a time, but you can dismiss your Curse whenever you strike a new creature in order to apply it to that target.

>Circle of Doom
>Prerequisite: 7th level, Eldritch Blast Cantrip, Pact of the Blade feature
>When you use the Attack action you can use a bonus action to cast your Eldritch Blast Cantrip. When you cast Eldritch Blast in this manner you may only direct one beam per target, but you deal additional damage equal to either your Strength or Dexterity modifier and do not suffer Disadvantage for being in close combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:20:09 No.43305943 Report Delete

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>>43305866
I have no idea how it is now, but I think back in 2e it different was different from most other settings in that paladins needed a divine patron. I remember that they lost their powers during the Time of Troubles.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:20:15 No.43305945 Report Delete

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>>43305866
if a god likes him he gets magic blessings, if not then he needs more xp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:23:24 No.43305999 Report Delete

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>>43305929
Fucking stolen, man. Fucking stolen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:28:28 No.43306076 Report Delete

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>>43305929
I need to append this to Cursed Steel
>You can only Curse one target per turn.

This is so you don't just attack two different dudes and get your full Curse damage on both (because you can drop your curse between them).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:28:46 No.43306081 Report Delete

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>>43305943
Just double checked the old boxed set. Yeah, paladins are paladins because of divine patronage.

I can think of two characters off the top of my head who are a bit like your idea. One is a fellow who was good and pure and in all ways worthy to be a paladin but wasn't allowed because he was an orc and at the time only humans and finhead saurials could be paladins. I should say that I am aware of at least one orc (or, rather, orog) paladin in the Realms but I think this guy was from Planescape anyway.

The other guy is a dude who was a paladin who lost his faith in the gods after they deserted him and the world during the Time of Troubles. His faith wavered briefly and he forever lost the blessings of the gods of good and law. He was pretty broken up about it. He proved himself in the end, though, and when he fell he became a saint.

The point is that there's certainly precedent for the kind of concept you have.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:29:15 No.43306085 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306129 >>43306344 >>43307460

>Joining a game at 10th level, roll a tough as fuck barbarian with 18 Con and and tough, gonna soak damage and make con saves all over the place
>Fail four constitution saves in the first session and lose at a drinking contest to a monk

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:29:33 No.43306091 Report Delete

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I wish they had treated Eldritch blade more like Eldritch glaive from 3.5.

Instead of making a weapon you just make melee spell attacks that go off Cha to hit.

Take agonizing blast for cha to damage and repelling blast to be able to push when you make a hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:30:37 No.43306110 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306148 >>43306169 >>43307014 >>43310354

>have AC 16
>get hit by absolutely everything
>die
>think that maybe is because I'm a monk
>reroll as a fighter
>AC 16 unless you have a shield
>get hit slightly less
>die anyway
This game is super lethal in the first levels isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:30:59 No.43306118 Report Delete

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Can someone post the spell cards pdf?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:31:49 No.43306129 Report Delete

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>>43306085
>Play an OotA paladin at level 6
>Have proficiency in cha saves plus twice my cha mod to my cha saves from my aura
>Fail a cha save against an umber hulk
>Everyone else in the party makes it
Oh I was upset at that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:32:23 No.43306138 Report Delete

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>>43305716
I've got a Great Old One patron warlock in my game whose pact is with an Ilsensine-like Illithid godbrain. Of course, it's evil, too...

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:32:47 No.43306146 Report Delete

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>>43305999
>>43306076

Putting it all together, it looks like this. Thoughts?

>When you gain your Pact Weapon, you also choose from the Dueling or Great Weapon Fighting Styles.

>Swift Summons
>Prerequisite: Pact of the Blade feature
>When you roll Initiative, you may choose to summon your Pact Weapon without using an action. You also gain a +2 bonus to Initiative rolls as your weapon thirsts for battle.

>Cursed Steel
>Prerequisite: 5th level, Pact of the Blade feature
>Once per turn when you hit a creature with your Pact Weapon, you can designate that creature as a victim of your Pact Weapon's Curse. While a creature is under your Pact Weapon's Curse, you deal an additional +2 damage with your Pact Weapon attacks. This extra damage increases to +4 at 10th level and to +6 at 15th level. You can only have one creature Cursed at a time and, but you can dismiss your Curse whenever you strike a new creature in order to apply it to that target.

>Circle of Doom
>Prerequisite: 7th level, Eldritch Blast Cantrip, Pact of the Blade feature
>When you use the Attack action you can use a bonus action to cast your Eldritch Blast Cantrip. When you cast Eldritch Blast in this manner you may only direct one beam per target, but you deal additional damage equal to either your Strength or Dexterity modifier and do not suffer Disadvantage for being in close combat.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:32:51 No.43306148 Report Delete

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>>43306110
First four levels are lethal as fuck. One bad choice can get you killed. After about level 5 it balances out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:35:05 No.43306169 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306270

>>43306110
you're really no different from the every day person except you have 1 or 2 skills or tricks that make you last longer, but not long enough to start soloing dungeons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:36:04 No.43306186 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306853

Reposting because new thread.

I have two players looking to play these archetypes based on the Tome of Battle, namely the Tiger Claw and Diamond Mind styles listed in the following link.

http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?364150-Fighter-s-ToB-Archetypes

Do these seem playable? Underpowered? Overpowered?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:36:29 No.43306197 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306248 >>43306258 >>43306277 >>43306294 >>43306419

So how long is a quaterstaff or the other polearm? If reach means they can hit up to 10 feet, would that meet its at least 10 feet long?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:36:37 No.43306198 Report Delete

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>>43305908

You have my axe sir

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:39:28 No.43306248 Report Delete

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>>43306197

You hit five feet around you already

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:40:10 No.43306258 Report Delete

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>>43306197
No, because if they were ten feet long, the reach would be more like 15 ft, because you've got functional arms and legs and aren't using a stock-still feet-straight-ahead stance and you aren't swinging it from your nipples.
A quarter staff is about 3/4ths as long as you are tall (I'm not sure if that's where the name comes from, but probably not). Most other stick weapons are about as long as you are tall or a bit longer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:40:44 No.43306270 Report Delete

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>>43306169
I'm not asking for soloing dungeons, what I want is not get hit by everybody and their aunts and rely only in the gm getting bad rolls on weapon damage

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:41:09 No.43306277 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306294

>>43306197
Things with reach are roughly 8 or so feet long usually (things like pikes are longer than that however). You need to add the length of the users arms to that and also take into account that the wielder will lunge forward as they strike.

A quarterstaff is about 6'-7' tall. A glave or halbard is a little longer than that with a foot of blade stuck on the end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:42:32 No.43306294 Report Delete

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>>43306277
>>43306197
As long as you want it to be, within reason.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:45:45 No.43306344 Report Delete

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>>43306085
Ancient weeabo drinking magic. Sucks to lose to a wannabe yoda, but it is archetypical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:46:00 No.43306348 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306804 >>43308233

Can Arcana Cleric gish?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:47:46 No.43306362 Report Delete

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>>43306270
yea you really don't start out anything near an adventure until 5,
basically you watched some discovery channel show and go out with a knife to kill a wolf.
best to take it real slow and try to avoid combat, seriously like 5 baby spiders is consider a hard fight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:48:27 No.43306371 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306406 >>43306457

>Build a paladin/warlock who is bound to the wild hunt
>Ask DM about changing the oaths for Oath of the Ancients to fit
>Tells me to come up with it and he will decide from there

Can I get some help? I cant think of a good way to word a LN oath that would work for this.

I was thinking the tenants would be something like Ferocity, Tenacity, Focus, and other things like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:51:07 No.43306406 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306790 >>43307063

>>43306371
Sportsmanship/Honor in your deeds
Respect your prey
Challenge yourself
Spare the weak

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:51:54 No.43306419 Report Delete

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>>43306197
I imagine the reach comes from a combination of arms length, weapon length, and maybe a short lunge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:53:58 No.43306454 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306507 >>43306547 >>43306737 >>43306886

Right quick Im not good with geometry and im used to playing on squares so how many creatures could I hit in a 20ft or 60ft circle? Im trying to figure out how good a cadter is at army killing especially eith those meh damage huge rafis spells like circle of death Icy sphere and sunburst

I ask humbly and bow to your superior mathematical skils and excellent hygiene

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:54:04 No.43306457 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306790

>>43306371
Just make it similiar to asian philosophy with just a little bit of clockwork universe thrown in. You're a defender of the awesome machinery of nature.

As to what the oaths could be, just make them closer to a Druid's role. Or if you want to emphasis the wild hunt concept, maybe make it where you're sworn to go out into the world testing people. Basically the idea being civilization has made men soft, so you go to supposed great men, and test their mettle in some way, passing out punishment and reward.

Nothing evil like 'purge the weak', more like the Green Knight.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:54:22 No.43306463 Report Delete

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>>43306146
>>Swift Summons
>>Prerequisite: Pact of the Blade feature
>>When you roll Initiative, you may choose to summon your Pact Weapon without using an action. You also gain a +2 bonus to Initiative rolls as your weapon thirsts for battle.

Not really worth the Invocation, as you can just keep your weapon around sheathed for the free action draw. There may be that 1% occurrence where you are at a dance and need sudden violence but there are other basic solutions for that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 22:57:31 No.43306507 Report Delete

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>>43306454
seeing that only 1 creature can occupy a 5ft square
>20ft = 4x4
>60ft = 12x12
that was hard

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:00:38 No.43306547 Report Delete

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>>43306454
Check page 249 of the DMG. A quick estimate of how many you hit with a circle is radius divided by 5, round up. So 20ft = 4, 60ft = 12.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:00:43 No.43306549 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306717

>>43306146
> Swift Summons
THIS I like.

> Cursed Steel
I feel like Lifedrinker is universally better, save for the level requirement: no scaling, no tracking who your curse is on, and it works every time you hit. No other invocations have level scaling; bump up the effectiveness to flat +4 and get rid of the scaling and maybe it's good as baby's first Lifedrinker.

> Circle of Doom
Bonus attack with EB, as many beams as you're able, without close range penalty, with the ONLY drawback being that you can't shoot just one guy? Absolutely not. I'm as gay for warlocks as you can get, but I'd never allow this at my table.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:04:25 No.43306615 Report Delete

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>>43306258
Could nipple blades count as monk weapons?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:10:36 No.43306717 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306777

>>43306549
>I feel like Lifedrinker is universally better
Lifedrinker is necrotic damage and is stat dependent. This is untyped damage and could actually allow you to have a lower charisma stat and still achieve good damage, which is a benefit to a MAD class.

>with the ONLY drawback being that you can't shoot just one guy?
That's a pretty big drawback. Eldritch Blast gets most of its power from focus fire. This lets you do some multitargeting on a round to round basis while still doing your Bladelock Schtick. I also wanted to stipulate that you can't attack anyone you hit with your melee attack and impose a smaller range, but I felt that would be too much and would basically have to write up a new action for the Invocation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:11:46 No.43306734 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306760

What name can I call my shit talking Tiefling Bard so he can wordplay his intro?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:11:49 No.43306735 Report Delete

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>>43306615
Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:12:00 No.43306737 Report Delete

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>>43306454
a 20 foot diameter circle is ~314 square feet, a 60 foot diameter circle is ~2826 square feet.

Infantry density is variable, from ~2 square feet per person (estimated packing density of a holocaust gas chamber), to less than 1 soldier every 400 square feet (dispersed formation when under artillery fire or grenade threat).

The Roman shield "wall" was actually pretty dispersed, each man had about 25 square feet of responsibility unless they were in a crush with another shield wall, whereupon the rear ranks would help fill in the front ranks until there was about 3 feet of frontage per soldier (call it 9 square feet or so).

Generally a dispersed formation is more vulnerable to cavalry and less vulnerable to artillery, and in a push of pike or clash of shield wall, the tighter formation will generally carry the day.

So how tight soldiers are on your fantasy battlefields will depend on the prevalence of big template blasting spells, vs shock cavalry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:13:03 No.43306760 Report Delete

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>>43306734
Barry the Baptist.
Make references to his rhymes flowing like a river.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:14:29 No.43306777 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307055

>>43306717
>This lets you do some multitargeting on a round to round basis while still doing your Bladelock Schtick
It's up to 4 ADDITIONAL ATTACKS as a BONUS ACTION.
Fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:15:28 No.43306790 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307083

>>43306457
>>43306406
I was thinking more along the lines of a less focused Oath of Vengeance

>Hunt with Ferocity
Let none interfere with the wild hunt or let them join the ranks of the hunted
>Hunt with Tenacity
The hunt doesn't end until the prey is taken. Never veer from the course that leads you to your prey.
>Honor the Hunters
Treat those who join the hunt with honor and respect. They are your pack and shall guide your teeth
>Honor the prey
Treat your prey not with cruelty or malice for it is in their honor that the hunt was called
>Celebrate the Kill
Glory in your successes and feast in the honor of the hunt.

How does this sound?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:16:46 No.43306804 Report Delete

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>>43306348
Yes, you choose GFB as one of your wizard cantrips.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:17:39 No.43306817 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306845 >>43306846

Best way to brawler goliath bearbarian?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:20:04 No.43306845 Report Delete

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>>43306817
1d4 dmg for days

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:20:05 No.43306846 Report Delete

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>>43306817
http://community.wizards.com/forum/player-help/threads/4142801
>9. Build 3: Grizzlyman (Druid/Barbarian/Rogue)
literally made for you

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:20:17 No.43306853 Report Delete

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>>43306186
Anyone?

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:22:45 No.43306881 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306909 >>43306956 >>43307026

So I'm gonna play warlock for the first time, tell me about the different booms.
I keep hearing bladelock is bad compared to tomelock, but never hear anything about pact of the chain.
And is it even possible to have a familiar without taking pack of the chain?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:23:17 No.43306886 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306964 >>43307077 >>43307187 >>43307759

>>43306454
ONE. ONE FUCKING SOLDIER.

Why would an army operate in formation that made itself vulnerable to the rampant AoE of a fantasy setting with battle mages? It would disperse its soldiers accordingly.

Autist anons are all retards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:24:55 No.43306909 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307017 >>43307111

>>43306881
Yes but you can't get the cool familiars, like an imp or pseudodragon.

Tome for power, Blade for being a shitty gish who should just Eldritch Blast, Chain for flavor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:26:30 No.43306938 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43306955 >>43306962 >>43308084

>>43305780
I'll be surprised if we get Eberron within the next ten years. Getting so fucking sick of them cramming Forgotten Realms down our throats...

Especially since Eberron would have been the perfect flagship setting for 5e... it fits the design perfectly, they're both all about combining old-school D&D with new-school gaming mechanics and sensibilities, and shaking things up in new and interesting ways.

But nope, instead we get "Generic Fantasy Setting #3,285". I wouldn't even mind it so much if FR wasn't the only fucking thing they've put out since before the game's release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:28:21 No.43306955 Report Delete

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>>43306938
Look at the Artificer.

You don't want an Eberron sourcebook without Keith Baker, anon.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:28:24 No.43306956 Report Delete

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>>43306881
Chain is pretty cool but its benefit kind of fades after a while. At high levels your imp isnt that great.

Bladelock is flavorful but lacking backing. It isn't as bad as most say it is but it definitely needs some sort of boost.

Tomelock is the most versatile and powerful. The book of ancient secrets invocation is the only way to get access to ALL ritual spells but that relies on your DM giving you scrolls or people to learn from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:28:52 No.43306962 Report Delete

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>>43306938
Well, make your own Eberron campaign, and see if you can release it. Show them how shitty they are by being awesome!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:29:07 No.43306964 Report Delete

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>>43306886
>Why would an army operate in formation that made itself vulnerable to the rampant AoE of a fantasy setting with battle mages?

Because mages are so rare anon (; ^ D)-<---<

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:29:51 No.43306971 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307055

>>43305929

> While a creature is under your Pact Weapon's Curse, you deal an additional +2 damage with your Pact Weapon attacks...

> ...against that creature.

That's an important part to include, since I assume you didn't intend me to be able to curse Bob to gain extra damage against Greg.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:31:20 No.43306992 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307053 >>43307120 >>43307837

Monks are already pretty weak.
How does sunmonk fair? I don't think I ever want to be too weak compared to the rest of my party.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:32:50 No.43307014 Report Delete

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>>43306110

Remember, in 5e, you're not a "hero" until 3rd level. Levels 1 and 2 are for apprentices, squires, and other such beginners. That's why most of the subclass options only become available at level 3: that's when you really become a "true" member of your class, instead of just a wannabe.

If you want to start out as a heroic adventurer, start at level 3.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:33:03 No.43307017 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307031

>>43306909
Say, I want a talking raven as a familiar, Can I get that at level 1?
I'm reading the PHB warlock section and I can't find mentions about familiars outside of the chain pact

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:33:32 No.43307026 Report Delete

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>>43306881

Warlocks suck dick.

There is no conceivable reason to pick one over the superior Wizard or Cleric.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:34:04 No.43307031 Report Delete

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>>43307017

There's a spell called find familiar you get at spell slot level 1, couldn't tell you if warlocks got it cause warlocks are weak.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:35:37 No.43307053 Report Delete

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>>43306992
Monks are only weak physically dealing about 75% of the damage that a fighter would at higher levels. They make up for this by being a bitch to kill and pretty good at controlling the battlefield.

Sun monks are pretty good letting you focus purely on Dex if you want. The spell sniper feat also works for your ki blast to ignore half cover and 3/4 cover.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:35:53 No.43307055 Report Delete

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>>43306777
Most area effect spells can affect potentially more than 5 people, some of which can be cast very quickly and in succession. Eldritch Blast can already be used to attack in a big swath, though at much reduced damage. Think about what you are saying.

With that said, I mostly used EB as an easy reference and also because it naturally progressed over time.

I could write a new action for the invocation that would progressively allow attacking more close range targets at reduced damage, but that was going to require very precise language.

>>43306971
Thanks for that. I'll try writing circle of doom again and then check my wording one more time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:36:39 No.43307063 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307083 >>43307089

>>43306406
>Sportsmanship/Honor in your deeds
Sure

>Respect your prey
Sounds good.

>Challenge yourself
Perfect.

>Spare the weak
No. The only ones that are spared from the Wild Hunt are those that join the Wild Hunt. Everybody else dies.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:37:10 No.43307077 Report Delete

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>>43306886
>Not killing the mages first and then commencing the attack
I shiggy diggy.
In fact,
>Having a setting with casters

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:37:34 No.43307083 Report Delete

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>>43307063
What do you think about >>43306790 ?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:38:19 No.43307089 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307159 >>43307166

>>43307063
That's more evil than neutral. A LN would only hunt worthy prey, because the purpose of the Hunt is not destruction. It is to prove your supremacy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:40:02 No.43307111 Report Delete

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>>43306909
>Chain for flavor.
Chain for the best fucking scout you have ever (not) seen. Imp can turn invisible at will, and you can see through it at will. You will never be surprised again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:40:36 No.43307120 Report Delete

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>>43306992
Can't stun so it can't do the only thing monks have going for them.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:41:09 No.43307130 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307145 >>43307158

>>43307026
>>43307031
well, It is my first time playing a caster, and I got recommended warlock for my first time.
Wanted to try necromancer wizard or druid too.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:42:11 No.43307141 Report Delete

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>>43305908
I like your spunk, kid.
DOWN WITH THE SCALEFAGS!
Up with the robotfuckers!

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:42:34 No.43307145 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307152

>>43307130

Pick Moon Druid.

Full Caster with decent spell list and can turn into a bear if things get grizzly.

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:43:21 No.43307152 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307182

>>43307145
This is Beary serious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:43:47 No.43307157 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43306846
>that level of multiclassing
Fuck that, i'm just gonna grapple, >>43306845 and strength everything

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:43:55 No.43307158 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308118

>>43307130

I don't think warlocks should be your first caster, they're very uh.. simple I suppose which is good, but you wont really do much more then finger blast with eldritch blast.

Necromancer wizards are spreadsheets with skeletons with crossbows from what i've heard.

Wizards are great, best of every world.
Sorcs are fine too, great.
Land druids suck, but if thats what your into thats what your into, shapeshift for utility is fun and their utility spells are good and they get to use their whole book.
Clerics are really good/strong depending on the school you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:43:56 No.43307159 Report Delete

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>>43307089
>because the purpose of the Hunt is not destruction
The purpose of the hunt is to kill something big and bad.

This is from the 1e wild hunt. The Wild Hunt exists in all the lands where Druids and their deities dwell. It is a physical manifestation of "life force" that always takes on the same form. The Hunt is made up of one huge black-skinned man with antlers growing from his head and his pack of hounds.
The Hunt appears whenever there is evil in the land (as in the case of an evil temple or an evil priest of the 12th level or greater coming into the area, or what the DM decides is a grossly evil act)
When the Hunt passes, the noise of the howling dogs or the Hunt Master's horn can be heard for miles in the night. If this noise is actively pursued by any being, they will become part of the Hunt when they sight the pack and its master! If the Hunt passes by any given being they must make a magic saving throw (on a 25% chance they will look at the pack) or join the Hunt. When any given being becomes part of the Hunt they may take on one of two roles: they will be the hunters or the hunted!

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:44:20 No.43307166 Report Delete

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>>43307089

If you want THE Wild Hunt, then there are rules that come with it. When the Wild Hunt is called, anyone that they come across must either join the Hunt until dawn, or die like the prey they are.

If you just want a generic "Durr, I hunt things!" Oath, then don't call it the Wild Hunt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:45:24 No.43307182 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307229

>>43307152
>DLC already included
Wouldn't it just be "C" then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:45:55 No.43307187 Report Delete

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>>43306886
>Why would an army operate in formation that made itself vulnerable to the rampant AoE of a fantasy setting with battle mages? It would disperse its soldiers accordingly.
1. The real threat is heavy horse or equivilent
2. They are entering the press with the other army, and in the press, the denser formation wins
3. The magic/technology to control a dispersed army isn't mature or available in sufficient quantity to most armies, so they accept losses in order to maintain order and carry the field against less orderly armies.

Not saying that they might not scream mage, and then scatter in a pre-planned maneuver, but there are a number of reasons why your dudes might not be so dispersed as to not present any targets for an area of effect spell, even without talking about terrain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:48:49 No.43307229 Report Delete

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>>43307182
This is obviously the beary special edition that includes the DLC that didn't come with the initial vanilla release.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:49:50 No.43307239 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307263 >>43307342

Oh /tg/, I fucked up. I told myself I would work on the session tomorrow tonight and finish it up. All I have now is an idea about what encounters there should be and that's about it.

I'm fucked. I have work tomorrow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:51:27 No.43307263 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307790

>>43307239
>Encounter Builder
>Random Plot Hook Generator
>General DM bullshittery/off-the-seat work
I don't see the issue

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:51:41 No.43307268 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307326 >>43307355

Try three

>Cursed Steel
>Prerequisite: 5th level, Pact of the Blade feature
>Once per turn when you hit a creature with your Pact Weapon, you can designate that creature as a victim of your Pact Weapon's Curse. While a creature is under your Pact Weapon's Curse, you deal an additional +2 damage with your Pact Weapon attacks against the Cursed creature. This extra damage increases to +4 at 10th level and to +6 at 15th level. You can only have one creature Cursed at a time and, but you can dismiss your Curse whenever you strike a new creature in order to apply it to that target.

>Circle of Doom
>Prerequisite: 7th level, Pact of the Blade feature
>When you use the Attack Action, you can instead release a circle of phantom blades around you to attack. Make a single attack roll with your Pact Weapon and compare it to all enemies within your reach. On a hit, you deal damage equal to 1d4 + your Charisma Modifier + either your Strength or Dexterity Modifier.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:56:08 No.43307320 Report Delete

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>>43305786
http://forgottenrealms.wikia.com/wiki/Portal:Deities

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:56:26 No.43307326 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307355

>>43307268
That's better, but does that damage take into account any of your weapon's special abilities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:57:29 No.43307342 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307790

>>43307239

Gnolls.

Gnolls everywhere. Some are bigger and using glaives, some are lithe and use bows.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 23:58:23 No.43307355 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307326
>>43307268
>On a hit, you deal your Pact Weapon's normal damage, but your weapon's damage dice are reduced to d4s.

Better?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:02:47 No.43307418 Report Delete

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Any clue on when the scan's gonna be online?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:04:24 No.43307434 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307468 >>43307478 >>43307500 >>43307528 >>43307686 >>43311388

>DMing
>party saves a chaotic good demon lord from imprisonment
>Have each character get a gift as a thanks
>one character is missing an arm
>assume that logically, his character would want a new arm
>gift him a new arm
>he flips shit and leaves
>everyone yells at me like I just told a five year santa isn't real

How in any way did I fuck up? Nobody wants to have only one fucking arm. Unless they were insane. I decide to give him something logical, that anyone would be happy with in that situation, and he freaks out like I'm ruining his character

They get access to regeneration next level, and could heal it anyway. It's like he's so completely obsessed with having his character this certain way that me trying to do something that his character would want is overpowered by his autism for his character to be the way he wanted it.

Am I the one who's actually wrong? The guy fucking makes reference IN CHARACTER to missing his arm, and when I say "here have a new one" he freaks out like I murdered his family.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:05:52 No.43307460 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43306085
Guess he was a practitioner of drun-ken-fist.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:06:16 No.43307468 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307679

>>43307434
Your group is retards, especially the one-armed player, but only because they clearly didn't remember regeneration being a thing and basing a character so focused on missing an arm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:07:10 No.43307478 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307434
Tell me he got a sweetass demon arm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:08:25 No.43307500 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307679

>>43307434

Sounds like you're DMing for a bunch of faggots. They don't deserve to play. Disband the group and tell them all to fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:10:11 No.43307528 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307679

>>43307434
Fuck that reminds me of a player I had
>Character has one eye
>gets regeneration cast on him after he lost his leg to a crit
>Gets fucking pissed and has his character kill them self when his eye grew back
Goddamn he was a dumbass

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:23:31 No.43307679 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307720 >>43307730 >>43307766 >>43307895

>>43307468
>>43307500
>>43307528
Honestly I wish this guy wasn't at my sessions, but he's close friends with two of the guys there and their usually pretty decent, plus they'd leave if I kicked them out. I'm pretty sure this guy has actual autism as well.

For example at one point I misheard someone say chill touch, when they actually said ray of frost. How, I have no fucking clue, but it was an honest mistake. It only mattered because of damage type, but otherwise it was fine. This guy freaked out, called me a "an absolute idiot", and got up and RAN away crying, like he was five.

In all honesty, my group is usually okay. 3 of the guys are some of the best role-players i've ever seen. The other one is fun, a good guy, and something causes a bit of shenanigans. Otherwise he doesn't cause much damage, and roleplays his characters quite well, despite them always being a bit over the top. He is over the top, but nowhere near That Guy.

The last two, is captain autism and That Guy.

Captain Autism makes retarded builds, doesn't even want to roleplay, treats it like were playing Skyrim or something. He freaks out when I try and give consequences, doesn't understand the rules at all, doesn't even listen to advice. I say that his class isn't Eldritch Knight, it's a Fighter. You get the archetype Eldritch Knight at level 3, which gives you third casting. But nope, he flips shit, gives himself some cantrips, writes down "Eldritch Knight" as his class. No way for him to even have cantrips, considering he's a Wood Elf, which is horrible for Eldritch Knight, which you shouldn't even being playing as a Dex Fighter. But nope, he has to autism everything, refuse to ever roleplay, and just be an ass about everything. I say he has a short sword, he tells me it's whatever autistic name he pulled out of his ass that wouldn't even apply to a sword like that. He currently has a dagger written down on his character sheet as a "One Handed Katana".

The is just an idiot.
CONT

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:24:22 No.43307686 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310050

>>43307434
gimmick characters, they're overreacting and you shouldn't have to put up with this, but just in case you actually feel like playing with them again, maybe ask if he wants to accept the deal before ruining his special snowflake.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:26:39 No.43307720 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307679
please don't this sounds horrible already, just give those 3 guys you want to keep a side chat to see if they want to play another game.
Don't stick with people who are literally shit, you don't have to put up with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:26:59 No.43307724 Report Delete

Quoted By:

How do the new Saiyan monk options weigh up? Before lvl 17 super-saiyan form, at least, but opinions on after welcome.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:27:17 No.43307730 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307679
It sounds like you're letting your players bully you as a DM. You need to enforce the rules or, better yet, find a new group.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:29:34 No.43307759 Report Delete

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>>43306886

You can reload a cannon, and that didn't stop armies from fighting in formation. A man who spent years studying just to casting fireball once per day doesn't even factor into an officer's calculation of casualties.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:30:14 No.43307766 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307776 >>43307871

>>43307679
The idiot does stupid things, have stupid things happen to him, has his character die, and rolls up a new one. He doesn't bother me, and the dumb things he does to actually die are somewhat amusing, like diving off a cliff thinking there would be water at the bottom

He took 320 falling damage.

The only reason I don't kick autismo is because it would cause my genuinely good players to quit. I've tried making him hate me enough to leave without making my other players hate me, but I think he somehow forever DM'd me. I do things I know he hates, like talk about TV shows or Video Games he's never played, which causes him to tard rage, go downstairs and curl up into a ball, or put the campaign into a setting I know he'll despise, like Cavemen and Dinosaurs shit, or Post-Nucleur Survival, or any non-D&D system. He spends the whole time upset, whining and complaining, but never leaves. Other guys have a blast, he pisses on everything. I swear to fuck if I hear him say "I draw my Kopesh" or "Mini-Katana" one more time, I'm kicking him out of my house. This last session was the last fucking straw.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:31:12 No.43307776 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307786 >>43307791

>>43307766
>He took 320 falling damage
Anon, falling damage caps at 20d6.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:32:13 No.43307786 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307776
Maybe he fell, bounced down a hill, fell some more, bounced again, and fell some more?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:32:48 No.43307790 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308489

>>43307263
>>43307342
Thanks /tg/. Apparently, I was overthinking it and making the flowcharts was actually relatively easy. I'm stuck on the name of the Tavern. I might go with the "Golden Griffin", but I'd prefer something more Norse.

I wish I could do Gnolls, but hyena people suit warmer climates better.

They are probably fighting a brown bear. Either by a river or out in the woods. I haven't found a good place for the frozen lake fight, but hopefully I can figure some way to lure them out onto the ice.

I'm thinking of giving one of the bad guys a big mastiff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:33:03 No.43307791 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307794 >>43308244

>>43307776
He fell two kilometres into lava.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:33:35 No.43307794 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307791
That's fair.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:37:58 No.43307837 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43306992

It has even lower "nova" damage than Open Hand monk, but it excels at AoE and group damage. If your GM prefers throwing six CR 1 monsters at you to one CR 6 monster, you absolutely want this guy on your side.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:38:13 No.43307840 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307862

So if I take the feat spell sniper for my sun monk I could take green-flame blade as a cantrip right? Would be pretty nice to have if you use a quarterstaff.

Also does the range of sun bolt get doubled with spell sniper? Sun bolt is pretty much the only spell attack that isn't a spell, that's why I'm confused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:40:09 No.43307862 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307917

>>43307840
>GFB with spell sniper
yes you could grab that though it would work of Int or cha so it wouldnt be that useful to you.
>Range of sunbolt doubled
By RAW? No. Would I allow it as DM? Yes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:41:11 No.43307871 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307766
>I've tried making him hate me enough to leave without making my other players hate me
Both you and your players are shit.

Either grow a pair and kick them, or start a "new" group to which autismo and that guy specifically are not invited. Feel free to cancel the old campaign before or after this. You can make up some shit about wanting a smaller group.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:43:21 No.43307895 Report Delete

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>>43307679

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:45:09 No.43307917 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307952 >>43307956 >>43308005

>>43307862
Just noticed that I don't even have any spells so I can't grab the feat.

Anything that would make dipping into another class as a sun monk worthwhile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:46:20 No.43307934 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307947 >>43307963

Are you as a DM going to allow any of the bullshit that can happen with GFB or are you restricting it to gishes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:47:12 No.43307947 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309572

>>43307934
I don't see anything especially overpowered about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:47:35 No.43307952 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307917
Light cleric so you can use "SOLAR FLARE!"

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:48:03 No.43307956 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307971

>>43307917
When you select Spell Sniper, you automatically gain one cantrip of your choice, the only restriction being that it has to be one with a ranged attack roll.

It's kind of like a mini-Magic Initiate in that way.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:48:37 No.43307963 Report Delete

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>>43307934
>thinking GFB is overpowered
Maybe in a sorcadin build it gets a little powerful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:49:23 No.43307971 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43307987

>>43307956
Yes, but you must be able to cast at least one spell to get the feat

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:50:55 No.43307987 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43307971
Or wait until level 8 to take it since you will be able to cast burning hands at level 6

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:52:35 No.43308005 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308043

>>43307917
But isn't the hadoken considered a ranged spell attack used on the attack action?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:56:07 No.43308043 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308101

>>43308005
As I said before it's not a spell but only a spell attack.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 00:59:27 No.43308084 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308162

>>43306938
>I'll be surprised if we get Eberron within the next ten years. Getting so fucking sick of them cramming Forgotten Realms down our throats...

Kieth Baker is currently talking with WOTC about development of the 5E Eberron setting.

And Forgotten Realms has been D&D's most popular setting throughout the much of 2E and all of 3E and 4E.

>>Especially since Eberron would have been the perfect flagship setting for 5e... it fits the design perfectly, they're both all about combining old-school D&D with new-school gaming mechanics and sensibilities, and shaking things up in new and interesting ways.

5E was about going backwards in an attempt to appeal to nostalgia. Considering that Eberron popularized such ideas as Action points, monstrous races as player characters, gray alignment, widespread magic, magitech, and PCs are exceptional heroies rather than average joes- it's very much *not* old school D&D.

Keith Baker came out as saying that 4E was an even better fit for Eberron than 3E.

It'll be included because 3E fans will want something they're familiar with, but not because it's a fit for 5E.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:00:58 No.43308101 Report Delete

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>>43308043
My bad, you could start as a variant human and get the magic initiate feat at level 1

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:02:16 No.43308118 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308158

>>43307158
>I suppose which is good, but you wont really do much more then finger blast with eldritch blast.

They get 15 spells and a dozen invocations. It's not as great as the Wizard and Cleric who potentially get access to their entire class spell list, but still miles ahead of any non-caster class who only have the option to hit stuff with a weapon or use skills- which Warlocks can do too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:06:54 No.43308158 Report Delete

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>>43308118

He asked how it was as his first caster, i compared it to other casters, not Gishs or non-caster classes.

As for spells I consider warlock a lot like moon druid where, sure you have spells, but you probably won't use them except for utility.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:07:21 No.43308162 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308189 >>43308236

>>43308084
>Considering that Eberron popularized such ideas as Action points, monstrous races as player characters, gray alignment, widespread magic, magitech, and PCs are exceptional heroies rather than average joes- it's very much *not* old school D&D.

Eberron was specifically designed as a setting that could incorporate all of the classic D&D monsters and other tropes. I wasn't talking purely mechanics here, but also feel and style. And that's what 5e is: old-school feel, new-school mechanics. I think Eberron fits perfectly with 5e.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:09:14 No.43308189 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308210

>>43308162
I don't think magic trains and robot PCs is really fitting in the whole old-school feel. Especially since they fucked around with alignments, including making good undead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:12:15 No.43308210 Report Delete

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>>43308189
Do you not understand what "mixing" means? When you mix two things, you don't get 100% of one thing, you gets parts of both things. When I say "It's a mix of old-school and new-school." and you say "But it has some new-school elements.", you aren't actually contradicting anything I said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:13:54 No.43308233 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308243

>>43306348
GFB as cantrip, magic initiate druid for shillelagh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:15:04 No.43308236 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308317

>>43308162
>Eberron was specifically designed as a setting that could incorporate all of the classic D&D monsters and other tropes.

It was supposed to include ALL monsters. Not *just* the classics, but new stuff too. That's why PC dopplegangers, lycanthropes, and constructs, undead, psionics, and all the other crazy stuff an "old school DM" would never allow are all viable and it's "Haflings, Humans, Dwarves, and Elves only".

>> I wasn't talking purely mechanics here, but also feel and style

Eberron still isn't much of a fit here because it abandons the classic LOTR meets Sword and Sorcery game in favor of pulp action and urban noir action. It also really emphasizes the PCs as unique and powerful forces in a world where nobody else can do the job. It also features Orcs, Goblins, Drow, Gnolls, Chromatic Dragons, Medusas, and other monsters as Neutral creatures folks trying to make it in the world- rather than near universally evil monsters.

Very much in opposition to the usual "old school D&D" game where you're just another band of adventurers trying to make their way in the world and all those monsters are invariably evil.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:15:48 No.43308243 Report Delete

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>>43308233
Also make sure to grab magic stone, for that "There are stats that aren't Wisdom?" goodness.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:15:51 No.43308244 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308250

>>43307791
If you're falling two kilometers, you must be below the surface, at which point it's magma, not lava.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:16:41 No.43308250 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308244
Maybe he fell out of an airship into a volcano.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:20:18 No.43308288 Report Delete

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>>43306146
I always thought the better solution for Bladelock was to give it the same ability the Eldritch Knight have, summon the weapon as a bonus action.

Alternatively, put Thristing Blade and Lifedrinker as free capstones for the Bladelock Pact, freeing up two Inovcation slots.

Another bit that always confuses me on Locks is why do they ONLY gain extra slots when they get Mystic Arcanum. Markes no goddamn sense. One would think they would max on normal slots first and THEN get to Mystic Arcanum, but no, it makes too much sense to not plaster the Warlock's power spikes all over the later levels...

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:20:56 No.43308292 Report Delete

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>Duergar
>+1 STR instead of +1 INT

WHY

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:21:37 No.43308298 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308306 >>43308311 >>43308341

Hello /tg/. Newbie DM here trying to get together a game for newbie players. What's a good first adventure module? We'd like to start at level 1. There's four of us including me, so it seems we're a little light, as most of the adventures recommend at least four PCs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:22:12 No.43308306 Report Delete

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>>43308298
Go into the Mega and download the Starter Set. Lost Mine of Phandelver is a great starting point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:22:45 No.43308311 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308298

Don't DMPC.
3 is an okay amount.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:23:18 No.43308317 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308418 >>43308460

>>43308236
If you managed to find a group that came anywhere close to the feel or tone of LotR or S&S, you were incredibly lucky. Most games devolved into crazy off-the-wall bullshit, slapstick comedy, and "How can we break the world?" I would KILL for a group that could actually take shit seriously and pay attention to any story more complex than "You've been hired to kill shit. Go kill shit."

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:23:25 No.43308318 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308348

>>43306258
Quarter staves are made from quartered tree trunks.
That's where the name comes from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:23:52 No.43308324 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308380

so /5eg/, what published setting do you want to be converted to 5th edition, now that the worst already has?

Eberron and Dark Sun

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:23:53 No.43308326 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308358

>TFW finish Tyranny of Dragons
>13 months

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:25:06 No.43308341 Report Delete

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>>43308298
Lost Mines of Phandelver.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:25:44 No.43308348 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308425

>>43308318
There are dozens of these "No, this is really where the name came from!" stories. The reality is that, like many things, nobody really *knows* the original source, even though everybody has their own theory.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:26:47 No.43308358 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308433 >>43308483

>>43308326
>TFW group for Tyranny of Dragons is 9 people
>only now getting half way through Hoard of the Dragon Queen after five months
>most of them have left for college and the military now
I'm never going to finish that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:29:08 No.43308380 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308454

>>43308324

I'd love to see both of those. Plus, a new property would be nice. Something new and interesting... I'd love to see a modern-day D&D. Not "It's the real world, but with magic.", like d20 Modern or Shadowrun, I'm specifically talking about a world where things have advanced to where we are now, but with the classic D&D style world as the starting point. Not an alternate-history Earth, but an actual fantasy world that's just progressed to the point where they have similar technology to us (even if it's powered by magic or something).

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:32:27 No.43308416 Report Delete

Quoted By:

grabbed this from another one of the generals and I'm wondering what sort of GOO would give you a cthulhu-esqe pistol because that's fucking awesome and I'd totally do it/allow it in a game.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:32:39 No.43308418 Report Delete

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>>43308317
Not that guy, but I'm hoping I can get the guys to take some stuff seriously tomorrow in our first session. I finished my flowchart. I didn't fit in one monster encounter I had planned. I actually only have like, 5 encounters planned, but it should be enough for the first session.

I really want it to be a serious campaign. Not crazy serious, but not just dumb jokes and ridiculous plotlines.

But one of the party members is named Grar, so, I feel like I'm not gonna make it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:32:59 No.43308425 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308496

>>43308348
Nope. Look up the English dictionary.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:33:48 No.43308433 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308358
>NINE

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:35:29 No.43308454 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308380
One thing I noticed about settings like Dark Sun and Eberron, is that they are almost low magic, but magic is incredibly common in one way or another, be it tech, psionics, or magic. Maybe they could work off of the modern rules they already released a bunch of stuff for, expand on it a bunch, and turn it into a full on modern fantasy setting. Not an alternate earth, but an entire alternate setting, just with our current technology levels.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:36:06 No.43308460 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308514

>>43308317
>If you managed to find a group that came anywhere close to the feel or tone of LotR or S&S, you were incredibly lucky. Most games devolved into crazy off-the-wall bullshit, slapstick comedy, and "How can we break the world?" I would KILL for a group that could actually take shit seriously and pay attention to any story more complex than "You've been hired to kill shit. Go kill shit."

And yet, that's what old school DM's constantly strove for.

Eberron was the setting that went, "Fuck it. You want a Psionic Golem character? It's core in the setting, and here is where they come from. Want to be a good aligned Necromancer? There's a nation full of them. You want to use your magic to build magitech and fuck up the economy? Here's an entire class for you."

It was created to facilitate- not just the old school D&D character tropes- but also those that had become quite popular as a consequence of 3E's splatbook approach.

Much to the chagrin of old school traditionalists.

That's why when 4E made races like Warforged and Shifters as "core races", introduced Action Points, and made it so that not every Tiefling Warlock bound to Devils was necessarily an evil outcast, there was much wailing and gnashing of teeth.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:37:53 No.43308483 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309974

>>43308358
It was the most long-term campaign I've ever ran. I had to rewrite about half of it, but everyone seemed to enjoy the result.

I feel like it could be a trainwreck to run or play as written.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:38:54 No.43308489 Report Delete

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>>43307790
The Party Meets up in a tavern by the name of The Yellin' Yeti.

They're chillin, drinkin, pissin in the snow, when somebody runs up and starts hollerin about Yetis attacking his horses.

He sees the big weapons on the partys' belts and the big dicks in their hands and pleads for them to help him kill the Yetis.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:39:11 No.43308492 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308505 >>43309601

Intimidating Presence is the worst possible use of of an Action in 5e

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:39:22 No.43308496 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308425
>the English dictionary.
>"the" English dictionary.

Please tell me you're joking.

And yes, the method of production is one possible origin, but there is no solid evidence to prove that that is definitely the origin. Just because whichever of the MANY available English dictionaries you happen to use used that as the origin doesn't mean it's true. It means the guy who wrote that dictionary thought it was true.

In reality, there is not enough evidence for one specific origin to prove any of them true.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:40:36 No.43308505 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308587

>>43308492

Frenzy barbarian is a trap and anyone playing it is a fucking retard.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:41:30 No.43308514 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308557

>>43308460
>It was created to facilitate- not just the old school D&D character tropes- but also those that had become quite popular as a consequence of 3E's splatbook approach.

Exactly. Like I keep saying, it's a combination of old and new.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:42:24 No.43308523 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308542 >>43308552

Is there a good rule of thumb for converting NEXT module to 5e DC saves? specifically DC for traps?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:43:51 No.43308540 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308554 >>43308558 >>43308561 >>43308563 >>43308610 >>43309325

So, how often do you guys give your players magic items? I have a party of level fives and one of them has a +1 Longsword, but I'm not sure if too many will unbalance the encounter maths.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:44:02 No.43308542 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308523
The DMG section on traps has suggested DCs for traps. 5 for an easy trap, 20 for a deadly trap, etc.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:44:37 No.43308552 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308800

>>43308523

Easy: DC 10
Average: DC 15
Hard: DC 20

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:45:16 No.43308554 Report Delete

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>>43308540
It's kind of annoying if weapon users don't have magic weapons by the time creatures with resistance or immunity to nonmagic weapons show up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:45:40 No.43308557 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308592

>>43308514
>Exactly. Like I keep saying, it's a combination of old and new.

Which, as noted before, is *not* what 5E is going for. It's going back to basics, whereas Eberron was about advancing beyond the basics.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:45:41 No.43308558 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308540
Deck em out, throw some encounters at them. If it seems like they had it too easy, add an extra goblin or what have you.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:45:54 No.43308561 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308540

1-4 if you hand out magic items make them utility base, 5+ you can give +1's or some sort of unique combat ability.

Atleast thats how my dm does it.
If you want to give out magic items a lot just make ones that do silly stuff.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:46:10 No.43308563 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308540

The DMG suggests level 5 characters should start with about 500g plus their starting gear, and 500g is the suggested cost of an uncommon magic item.

So if you want to give out magic items according to a plan at all (remember, they're not necessary), then one uncommon item per character by level 5 isn't a bad starting point.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:48:56 No.43308587 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308604 >>43308611

>>43308505
Idea: Make Frenzy a haste effect, as the spell. Worth a level of exhaustion now?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:49:39 No.43308592 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308864 >>43311434

>>43308557

Except you are flat-out wrong. It's a combination of an old-school feel, with new-school mechanics and style. Backgrounds, Inspiration, point-buy as the assumed baseline, Hit Dice for healing, short and long rests, all sorts of bits and pieces of 5e are applying newer design concepts to the system.

5e's clearly and directly stated design goal was to appeal to all D&D players, old-school and new. It was deliberately meant to unite the fans by combining aspects of all styles of D&D to make something that could emulate it all.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:50:51 No.43308604 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309456

>>43308587
Literally never worth the exhaustion

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:51:23 No.43308610 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308540
I tend to give martials plenty of magic items (for 5e, anyway) and withhold as many magic items from spellcasters as much as possible.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 01:51:41 No.43308611 Report Delete

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>>43308587

Probably not even then, exhaustion is too fucked and too hard to get rid of early on.

Not only that but it also is only AS good as fighter for that big weakness.

No other class in the game has such a detrimental effect pinned on them for an ability.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:13:03 No.43308800 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308844

>>43308552
>Easy: DC 10
>Average: DC 15
>Hard: DC 20

Sometimes I wish that D&D took more time to explore the statistics behind DCs and what they represent in-universe. An example for knowledge:

>DC 0 is known to everyone. Only a particularly stupid village idiot doesn't know this.
>DC 5 is known to almost everyone. Less than one in 4 people are ignorant enough to not know this information.
>DC 10 is common knowledge. More than half the general population knows this. Virtually all experts in the subject can recall this from memory.
>DC 15 is uncommon knowledge. Only about one in 4 can recall this off the top of their heads. Experts sometimes struggle to remember this knowledge.
>DC 20 is rare information. Very few (2 to 3% of the population) can recall this information. Even highly-trained experts consider this information obscure.
>DC 25 is extremely rare. Almost nobody knows this. This knowledge routinely stumps high ranking scholars. Even the greatest are at a loss.
>DC 30 is impossibly rare. In the entire setting, a mere handful of people (perhaps a dozen?) possess this information; only the greatest scholars who ever lived could even hope to recall it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:17:42 No.43308844 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308854

>>43308800
That would not be a "rule of thumb", which was the original request. A rule of thumb is a quick and easy reference that you don't need a book or tables to reference.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:18:58 No.43308854 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308844
>That would not be a "rule of thumb"

I know. I just saw those numbers and was inspired to sperg about basic stats.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:20:10 No.43308864 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309782

>>43308592
>Backgrounds, Inspiration, point-buy as the assumed baseline, Hit Dice for healing, short and long rests, all sorts of bits and pieces of 5e are applying newer design concepts to the system.

But all those "new" rules were more or less introduced in 4E.

5E just went back and took those rules that were "new" nearly a decade ago, removed a great deal of the "new rules" as well, and brought back lots of stuff from even earlier in order to make an appeal to older players and bring them back into the system.

And part of attracting those people is going back to Forgotten Realms, their most classic setting- to the point where they went back and undid all the changes they had made in 4E.

Yeah, eventually they'll likely come back to Eberron, but it's not really emblematic of the kind of direction they're trying to take the game in and would be a bad way to start their rebranding of the D&D franchise.

"Hey guys! It's the same ol' D&D you know and love! Full of Warforged, Artificers, and Psionics and no Drizzt, Harpers, or Red Wizards to be found!"

See the conflict there?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:21:26 No.43308876 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308929

>>43305786

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:26:36 No.43308929 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308943 >>43309140

>>43308876
>first god is Akadi
SECOND WORST ELEMENTAL LORD

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:28:17 No.43308943 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43308955

>>43308929
Only two of the elemental lords are even worth talking about, and Kossuth takes the lead by a fucking mile.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:29:31 No.43308955 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309016

>>43308943
Correct. The other being Grumbar, yes?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:34:13 No.43309016 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309140

>>43308955
Of course. Akadi is just a shit deity, and Istishia is just a poor man's Eldath.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:44:12 No.43309140 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309016
>>43308929
Only good thing Akadi ever brought to FR was Chloe, a NPC mod for BG2. And that's it. That's all I have ever seen, heard or read of Akadi anywhere.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:48:45 No.43309183 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309235 >>43309237 >>43309255 >>43309801

>>43305716
Is pic related appropriate for a Warlock Undying patron who is a "long forgotten diety"?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:54:56 No.43309235 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309183
totally

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:55:14 No.43309237 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309183
Nito is cool. He could easily be a Lord of Death, old Lich-things that served Jergal in the times of yore, or a very old Demilich/Lich combo.
For other refs try Lord Momonga from Overlord too.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:55:24 No.43309239 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43305866
I have a fighter with divine initiate (bless, sacred flame, resistance) and the healer feat, and she feels very paladin-y. It's also pretty solid mechanically, spit sacred flames until they close in then cut them up with your awesome physical ability.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:57:13 No.43309255 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309668

>>43309183

5E Warlocks can trace the evolution of their "Pact Magic" feature from the 3E Binder class, whose whole shtick was making pacts with long dead/forgotten deities.

Hell, in 4E, there was a Vestige pact, which was all about making pacts with dead/forgotten deities.

They just haven't gotten around to releasing anything officially in 5e yet.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 02:59:48 No.43309277 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309306

So, is Ravenloft or Dark Sun getting a 5th Edition adaption yet?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:03:03 No.43309306 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309341

>>43309277
Well Ravenloft got a board game in 4e. So maybe.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:05:39 No.43309325 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43308540
I have a table saved here, it says that the average you'd get rolling on the tables is
>1 common(lvls 1-5)/uncommon(6-10)/rare(11-15)/very rare(16-19)/legendary(20) consummable per level per character
>6 permanent items, 2 uncommon(lvl 4,7), 2 rare(10,13), 1 very rare(16) and 1 legendary(19)

IIRC it's a statistical extraction from the dmg tables, but it might just be a meme.

you should give your characters a +1 longsword each, and some potions and scrolls, that's all.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:07:28 No.43309341 Report Delete

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>>43309306
Anything homebrewed then?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:19:47 No.43309435 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309510 >>43309515

Asking again since I asked before after everyone had switched to the new thread.
pure Death Cleric, what's the opinion on it?
Shit, alright?

It technically needs DM approval, but would any (sane) DM say no to either it or oathbreaker if it's already for an already mostly evil party?

Also, not looking to summon skeleton hordes this character but I heard necromantic based wizard is shit this edition, and oathbreaker pally is the best for undead working for you, that true?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:21:54 No.43309456 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309519

>>43308604
That can't be true. Surely at some point of adding crazy shit to frenzy it becomes viable while still incurring a level of exhaustion. The possibilities are limitless.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:27:55 No.43309496 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309508 >>43309532 >>43309543 >>43309546 >>43309558

Would your average new PC know that skeletons suffer greater damage from bludgeoning, or to finish zombies with radiant damage? Is this metagaming, or ingame common sense?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:29:36 No.43309508 Report Delete

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>>43309496
>"Hard blunt things are good at breaking bones. Hey, that guy is all bones! I bet breaking those would work good."

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:29:43 No.43309510 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309835

>>43309435

Death cleric is way more reasonable then oathbreaker.

But if it's an evil party then who cares.
Wouldn't be allowed in a neutral or good party though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:30:20 No.43309515 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309435
the only powerful feature the death cleric has is twinning some low level spells, and gets that at 17.
the oathbreaker is breakable with the control undead feature, and the aura of hate is a huge boost for a skeletal horde, that the oathbreaker can build with his own spells,
It's not like oathbreakers provide anything else that other oaths don't, so I wouldn't let that one in the hands of the players.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:31:03 No.43309519 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309456

It either puts the class above and beyond every other class or it's shit because no other class has a huge downside(in this case exhaustion) attached to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:32:50 No.43309532 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309854 >>43310058

>>43309496
I would expect anyone getting into novice adventuring to know that HAMMERS > SKELETONS and CHOPPYSLASHERS > ZOMBIES.

Similarly, SILVER > WEREWOLVES
SUNLIGHT > VAMPIRES
and a variety of other extremely common horror monster weaknesses

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:34:06 No.43309543 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309496

How new? you have to remember that by level 3 in 5e you are a folk hero or a seasoned adventurer.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:34:39 No.43309546 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309496
I'd say so, especially in this edition where every character can attempt any skill with a decent chance of success most of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:36:30 No.43309558 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309496
everybody should know, if not from academical study (knowledge skills), or personal or aneddotical experience, then from folklore tales.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:38:52 No.43309572 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309600 >>43309708 >>43309728

>>43307947
Its not too broken but if a rogue picks it up they can deal 76 damage in one attack. thats almost as much damage as a fighter gets in 4 attacks. Noe i am using Lv. 20 chars for my numbers.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:42:31 No.43309600 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309572
Note*

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:42:43 No.43309601 Report Delete

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>>43308492
I firmly believe it is meant to be used outside of combat as a negative help action in interrogation and other contests.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:47:38 No.43309640 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309730

Now, bladed tonfas are ridiculous. But what if you balanced a bearded axe head at the front of a tonfa, so if you felt the need to use something other than a blunt strike you simply needed to grip the long end and start swingin'?
And how annoying would it be to play a Monk with one of these statted as a handaxe?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:51:34 No.43309668 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309681 >>43309693 >>43309762 >>43309786

>>43309255
>5E Warlocks can trace the evolution of their "Pact Magic" feature from the 3E Binder class, whose whole shtick was making pacts with long dead/forgotten deities.
I thought Vestiges were spoopy dead people who had eaten enough souls to claw their way back from the afterlife?

Or am I mixing in too much Wraith and Sin-Eater?

Actually, how would I do a WoD-style Sin-Eater in 5E?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:53:22 No.43309681 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309786

>>43309668
>I thought Vestiges were spoopy dead people who had eaten enough souls to claw their way back from the afterlife?

Some are.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:54:24 No.43309693 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309668
>Actually, how would I do a WoD-style Sin-Eater in 5E?

A Warlock.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:56:41 No.43309708 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309846

>>43309572
>lvl 20 math
>most campaigns don't go past 15
Why?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:59:32 No.43309728 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309759 >>43309846

>>43309572
wait, how? the sneak attack dice do not jump, do they?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 03:59:53 No.43309730 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309640
It'd probably be unbalanced and hard to hold unless the lower handle was strapped to your arm.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:03:44 No.43309759 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309789 >>43309797

>>43309728
>wait, how? the sneak attack dice do not jump, do they?

Sneak Attack dice are maximized on a critical hit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:04:18 No.43309762 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309668
Vestiges are all sorts of things. Dead gods, forgotten wizards, forsaken mortals, far realm entities. Anything that existed outside all of the planes and was largely forgotten by existence at large was qualified.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:07:20 No.43309782 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309856

>>43308864
>But all those "new" rules were more or less introduced in 4E.

Bloody fucking hell... what part of "a COMBINATION of OLD AND NEW" do you not understand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:08:16 No.43309786 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309668
>>43309681
In 4e, all the vestiges were associated with daily powers, and because of the way those powers were structured, they all a little flavour text describing who/what they are/were. For example, a trace of the power expended during a mighty battle between titanic forces at the dawn of time, or a fragment of the power once held by the dead sea primordial Shax the Devastator. There's enough different notions of where vestigial power comes from that you can come up with all sorts of backgrounds.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:08:24 No.43309789 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309759
I'm not following this...
we're talking about the Green Flame Blade cantrip, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:09:50 No.43309797 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309759
No they aren't, you get double the amount of dice you would normally roll. Maximising dice on a crit is a 4e rule.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:10:32 No.43309801 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43309183

Only if you take Pact of the Blade for the badass sword (and the new sword burst cantrip as a little baby Gravelord Sword Dance).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:16:29 No.43309835 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309853

>>43309510
>Wouldn't be allowed in a neutral or good party though.

Why the fuck not? This is the problem I had with the reasoning they gave for putting it in the DMG, too. Why does everybody act like "death = evil"? The only overtly evil thing about the Death domain is the undead creation stuff, which is easily traded away or just ignored.

On the other hand, mythology (both in D&D and the real world) is absolutely FULL of neutral death deities, where death is seen as just a natural part of life. But no, people are scared of dying so death must be evil, right?

Sorry, this is a bit of a button for me. I love the "death as a neutral force of nature" concept, and the hypocrisy just bugs me. Kill people with a sword? You're okay. Burn their flesh off their bones with fire and acid? No problem. Literally remove their free will and turn them into mind-controlled puppets? Nope, still not evil. Kill someone with death energy? EVIL!

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:18:12 No.43309846 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310015 >>43310088

>>43309708
Because one can dream.

>>43309728
Sneak Attack dice max out at 10D6, which gives an average of 35 damage. GFB gives an average damage of 27 at max. Assuming Dex and Cha 5 and a rapier as the weapon, you get an extra 14 from base weapon and modifiers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:18:34 No.43309853 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43309872 >>43309990

>>43309835

I meant oathbreaker not death cleric.

Oathbreaker would be slaughtered by anyone lawful or jailed by anyone good, they don't show remorse and they murder shit.

Sorry if you misunderstood.

I was trying to state that death cleric is probably okay but Oathbreaker is probably NPC or evil party only.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:18:48 No.43309854 Report Delete

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>>43309532

Two of my Pathfinder group just got turned to stone because apparently "Don't look at the lady with snakes for hair." is not common knowledge in Golarion (even with a 15+ Knowledge check). The GM's not very experienced, so I give him a pass, but it still bugs me a bit.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:19:17 No.43309856 Report Delete

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>>43309782
>Bloody fucking hell... what part of "a COMBINATION of OLD AND NEW" do you not understand?

The part where the new rules come in. Repackaging old rules in a way that's even more retro is not a mixing of old and new.

It's a mixing of old and older.

And if all it takes is a new rule or two be a "mix of old and new" then pretty much every campaign setting is a mix of old and new because all of them draw off of the basis layed down by core D&D game, some books/movies/myths that are even older than D&D, and introduce their own unique subsystems and tropes.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:22:24 No.43309872 Report Delete

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>>43309853

Oh. Sorry, then, my mistake.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:24:47 No.43309888 Report Delete

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>>43306146
Wouldn't making pact weapons just use CHA as an ability fix most problems with it? Or would that be too OP

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:40:15 No.43309974 Report Delete

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>>43308483
Currently running HotDQ, I read through RoT just before and hoooly shit I really do not look forward to running it. Like at all. HotDQ is pretty unbearable as is...

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:43:12 No.43309990 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310063

>>43309853
Even Vengeance Paladin into Oathbreaker?

"Look, I'm just not angry anymore"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:49:12 No.43310015 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310041

>>43309846
How are you getting CHA as your casting stat as a rogue

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:54:46 No.43310041 Report Delete

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>>43310015
Magic initiate and choose a sorcerer spell. Grab GFB and another sorcerer cantrip of your choice and whatever spell you want. That will make your casting start for GFB cha.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:56:18 No.43310050 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310179

>>43307686
> amputee
> special snowflake

It's finally happened, special snowflake now means "the character has at least one (1) trait" it can now go and join edgy and weeaboo in the pile of words that have completely lost their actual meaning.

In all seriousness though, whats wrong about having a character who has a disabilty? Even if it's a "gimmick" why does that even matter? Losing a limb is a huge fucking deal, try doing ANYTHING physical with one arm and you'll undersatnd why characters can be partially defined by their amputation, it affects every thing they do.

This guy reacted immaturely but you did wrong by healing his disabilty, it was very clealy a big part of why he liked the character, and you took it away from him. You know Tyr, the norse god? Part of what makes him interesting is that he sacrificed his hand to fenris so that the gods could bind the wolf. If a magical fairy appeared and was like "Blam! New hand" it would effectively erase his sacrifice, and essentially erase part of who he is.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:58:21 No.43310058 Report Delete

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>>43309532
>CHOPPYSLASHERS > ZOMBIES.
But 5e zombies have no resistances or vulnerabilities to any physical damage type

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:59:19 No.43310063 Report Delete

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>>43309990

If you're lawful or good party is okay with a guy who is the embodiment of darkness then i suppose you can be an oathbreaker.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:03:40 No.43310088 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310133

>>43309846
that's pretty good, it looks like a good reason to dip into bladedancer.
the damage increase is good, but it's on the least martially capable martial class, in a way I see it more as a fix, now the rogue is almost on the same level as the fighter.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:03:47 No.43310089 Report Delete

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>>43310058
Doesn't matter. Only a dope would try to bludgeon a gooey sack of rotting flesh that feels no pain.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:12:09 No.43310132 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310170 >>43310204 >>43310340 >>43312063

DM here, recently starting my first 5E campaign having DMed 4e for several years.

My party has eight players in it. Anyone have any advise for making a large party run smoothly?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:12:11 No.43310133 Report Delete

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>>43310088
I feel rogue uses GFB best because they only get 1 attack a turn and their class is built around that. Idk if i would call it a fix per say but its definitely a strong buff.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:17:26 No.43310170 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310224 >>43310340

>>43310132
Do everything in your power to prevent them from splitting up.
destroy any other distractions.
Prepare for Combat Sim: The evening.
Find a niche job for that character that isn't into combat. like keeping track of expenditures for bonus's at the end, or a heavy but practicle mcguffin they can take care of to feel included.

its not easy, Treat it more like a board game, keep everyone involved and do NOT let them split up.

Train them into a Canyon, a Boat, chain them together. DO NOT LET THEM SPLIT UP.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:18:56 No.43310179 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311496

>>43310050
If the character's sole defining feature is that disability, to the point that the player pitches a fit and storms of after that ability is healed? That's a special snowflake.

It's not the disability that makes a snowflake, it's the way that disability is treated.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:19:58 No.43310185 Report Delete

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>>43310089

Bludgeoning weapons break bones. Zombies have bones. They don't have to feel pain for me to pulverize their kneecaps and incapacitate them.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:22:44 No.43310204 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310224

>>43310132
8 players is a bit too much, break it up.
find a co-dm, build them into a loose organization, and have 2 4-characters groups going. let them change group as they like, within reason, but keep to 2 groups of 4, or one of 3 and one of 5.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:25:32 No.43310224 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310236 >>43310253 >>43310286 >>43310338

>>43310170
what can I do to limit distractions? I'm already implementing "no phones during D&D"

>>43310204
no matter what I'm not splitting the party. i have 8 players and I'll make 8 players work, come hell or highwater. also even if i wanted to get a co-dm nobody i know knows how

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:26:52 No.43310236 Report Delete

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>>43310224
Honestly try making sure everyone is using a physical medium for their sheets too. EVEN spell lists. Keep the requisite books on hand, hand copy or print whatever else you need out.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:31:03 No.43310253 Report Delete

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>>43310224
8 characters are a bit too much to get anything done.
if it was a novel, they'd probably split in smaller groups to do different things and provide an easies characterization. if it was a play, they wouldn't be on the scene all at the same time, all the time.
usually, with so many players, you end up dming less of an rpg and more of a wargame.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:37:52 No.43310286 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310292

>>43310224
Why do people insist on playing with massive groups? I've never seen it end well.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:38:50 No.43310292 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310331

>>43310286
They have lots of friends that want to play?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:46:05 No.43310329 Report Delete

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>>43306146
I would change the 3rd level feature of pact of the blade to its original text plus you gain the fighting style of whatever weapon you summon.

That would help them out significantly without changing too much of the class.

Not to say a summoned proficient weapon that is magical isn't powerful, but jesus does every other class get like 5 features when they hit 3.

Cursed steel seems really really strong though, Hex, this and a magical weapon and you will be chewing through literally everything.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:46:30 No.43310331 Report Delete

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>>43310292
and not a single one of them can DM.
you know, that's even worse. it's not just that you have too many players, but they all really want to stay in the spotlight too, that's a bad combination!
and a catch 22 too, if they weren't that selfish you'd find at least 1 other DM there.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:47:32 No.43310338 Report Delete

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>>43310224
limiting distractions is difficult but not impossible.
Some tips:
-have players use the source book
-you got alot of shit on your plate, if a rule comes up and you cant handwavium it, make a player whos turn is the furthest away examine the rulebook for you
-have a player move pieces of the monsters for you
-Give bonus's so players will want to dual attack, or more than just provide cover
-I Write up simple little mini games like lock tumblers or small mazes, then have a player *the most attentiony* become a journal maker, note taker, anything really to keep them busy.
-Never stop DM'ing. Have players bring potluck dinners, plates and eat ala'cart
-When someone looks distracted, give them some small ingame thing to do.
-Make sure EVERYONE is having a good time. Include those who often shy away, those who are LOLATTENTION WHORE THIS STORY IS ABOUT ME will get their fill, give the shy player some sort of important function in the group as well, maybe a NPC shows favor to them for their race, stature, or maybe just are both wearing the same color shirt.
-Be creative, let the players tell the story. between 8 people arguments will come up. Wing everythigng you can, let the players tell the story and you just keep moving foward.
-PREPLAN ALL COMBATS. jesus christ I cannot make this more important. Unless its the BBG, make up a few basic encounters ready to go, and fluff the rest of the shit. 5 warriors, 3 casters and a elite? Have the stats and fluff the details.
8 Bandits with short swords?
8 Mirfolk with tridents?
8 Humanoid tall goblins with mutated handclaws?
-Have six incase shit preplanned combats, and just be ready to fudge the fluff for them, always mix it up and the players will never catch on.
-Have another player draw the map for you. Fuck your details, the cartographer will put intersting shit in place for you.

WING IT MOTHERFUCKER. YOUR BABYSITTING 8 TODDLERS. JUST DONT STOP AND PUSH FORWARD. HANDWAVE AND GOGOGOGO.

you'll do fine.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:47:46 No.43310340 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310353

>>43310132
>>43310170
this.
ran an 7 person game, with a slight murder mystery twist.
they went "let's split up gang" and my head split in fucking half. it was literally the worst D&D game I've had to run.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:50:31 No.43310353 Report Delete

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>>43310340
You do not know the hell that is Dark Heresy. It got so common I called it the 'Freddy'.

However I did give them all reasons to find eachother suspicious. So I didnt really help myself.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:50:51 No.43310354 Report Delete

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>>43306110
As a player who just had half of his party re-roll due to one round of combat that went well for the DM I can safely say that the first 3 levels you are fucking paper targets.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:27:17 No.43310559 Report Delete

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Guys, what are some investigation mcguffins i can sprinkle around. A pirate is planning a mutiny but is trusted so i want 3 pieces of evidence, so far hes falsifying reports to get the captain alone, has a journal of ambitions referring to him as the captain and the fact he used the two parts of his last name as initials in an old contract (the same initials used on a letter between him and his co-conspirator).

I don't trust my players to find all 3 but i can't think of any more random bits of evidence, and i don't want anything that is 100% instantly incriminating.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:42:14 No.43310643 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310658 >>43310947

Hey guys, I'm about to DM my first campaign that I'm writing, can anyone give me some advice if this is a good first session prologue to the campaign?

>PCs arrive at Tavern in Waterdeep looking for a place to stay
>Sit down for drinks
>Bartender runs out for cellar
"Zombies in the cellar somebody help!"
>PCs investigate and assumedly rekt zombies
>Find that there's a fresh hole in the wall connecting to a tunnel network
>PCs follow tunnel fighting undead along the way
>Eventually find Necromancers underground lair
>before they defeat him he pulls an escape

the idea of the campaign is this necromancer is terrorizing Waterdeep like some comic villain trying to eventually become a Lich.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:44:18 No.43310658 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310666

>>43310643
It's not especially novel or anything, but solid enough for your first time running a game. Don't want to try to take on too much too soon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:45:52 No.43310666 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310710 >>43310806 >>43310859

>>43310658
Yeah I don't want to overwhelm myself at first. How would you suggest I could stage my Necromancers get away without it seeming to cheesy?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 06:51:39 No.43310710 Report Delete

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>>43310666

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:08:08 No.43310806 Report Delete

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>>43310666

Honestly, you can't. If you want him to be guaranteed to escape, there's no way to do that without being cheesy. Otherwise, you'll just have to accept the fact that he might die before he can get away (though, being a necromancer, that's not necessarily the end for him anyway...)

That said, a good option is the misty step spell. He has to see where he's going, but if you put a metal grate in his lair, he can teleport through the grating, and it will take the heroes a while to get through the metal, at which point he'll be long gone. Not a guaranteed escape, but a pretty likely one that uses existing options, so your players can't call bullshit on it.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:18:16 No.43310859 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310901 >>43311149

>>43310666
Dont put the necromancer in the basement. Leave some sort of mcguffin clue that allowed him to make the zombies then walk away.

Maybe he has a trinket or a hexbag.

maybe he was experementing and they got loose.

Maybe he was tunneling under the towns water source to polute it because he has water rights next to town and wants the political clout that comes with controlling water.

Maybe he just wants to watch the world burn.

Just leave some sort of tracible clue in the tunnels they have to search for.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:24:24 No.43310901 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43310991

>>43310859
This is good but I still want him to have some sort of "You will remember this as the day you almost caught captain jack sparrow" moment. But I the leaving behind clues idea.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:32:48 No.43310947 Report Delete

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>>43310643
it sounds like fun imo, but you may wanna think of ways to egg the players into going in and helping outside of hoping they are all good Samaritans.

At least in my personal experiences a majority of the party is more likely to either not help or not explore the hole than help the poor fellow with his zombie problem and then enter the hole. To be precise, one guy would try to squeeze the barkeep for gold or run away, one guy would actually help, one girl would follow everyone else's lead, and one guy would either fight the zombies or be off fucking the bar wench.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:39:20 No.43310991 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311071 >>43311149

>>43310901
Give him a signature, like to his summon spell.

Maybe its arms wrapped in a wreath for summoning.

Maybe he brands his creations.

Maybe he has them say a specific cry during battle.

I never understood a necromancer that does his own dirty work, he specifically summons the dead to do shit for him. why even show up?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 07:52:32 No.43311071 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311149

>>43310991

I'm inclined to agree with this guy, don't even bring the necromancer into the area, just send undead and note a specific thing that will be recurring so they know that he's the one doing this.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:02:40 No.43311149 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311593

>>43310859
>>43310991
>>43311071
Alright here's what I'm thinking, the players are at the tavern because they're meeting with someone who is looking into hiring them to investigate some strange occurrences around the city, during this meeting the events unfold. The clue left at the underground lair is brought back to the dude or whatever and he's like "That's the mark of the dude who has been terrorizing my warehouses with his undead fiends!" and basically the dude is actually a masked lord who is also a rich merchant who needs some downlow investigation. And the necromancer has been promised riches/power by a competing masked lord to compromise his operations.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:06:47 No.43311169 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311199 >>43311230

>Kill large creature, for example ogre
>"I grab his weap..."
>GM "It evaporates"
>"What? it's an ogre why woul..."
>GM "the weapon evaporates"
Why whould someone be so salty about a large weapon? you hit with disadvantage is actually worse than normal weapons, let the dude have fun.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:10:46 No.43311199 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311209

>>43311169

Evaporation is such a shit explanation aswell, what you do is you ask them to make a strength check to pick it up, if they hit a like 20+ sure, they can use it as a heavy weapon with disadvantage and shit. Otherwise they dislocate their arm or just can't lift it and the problem is solved.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:12:17 No.43311209 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311218

>>43311199
Not him but in PHB says you can use it with disadvantage, not DC 20+ to pick it bullshit

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:13:08 No.43311218 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311589

>>43311209

playing the game by the exact words is fucking retarded, i'm not letting some wimpy 8 str wizard pick up an ogre axe thats twice his size.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:14:34 No.43311230 Report Delete

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>>43311169
your DM just doesn't understand how bad disadvantage is.
even when countered by getting advantage, it prevents you from having advantage.
that's huge, advantage is like having a big to-hit bonus in 4e, it's the one mechanic you makes all the difference.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:21:37 No.43311290 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311321 >>43311342

Do you think barbarians should have combat styles like Fighter, Ranger and Paladin? I nigga tries to go TWF as a barbarian and ends sucking way more.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:21:38 No.43311291 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311314 >>43311324 >>43311336 >>43311337 >>43311343 >>43311364 >>43312939 >>43313483

I feel like monks really don't belong in the core classes list. As an addition for oriental flavor campaigns, sure, but the whole concept of monks is completely bonkers in a traditional fantasy setting.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:25:06 No.43311314 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311354

>>43311291

with how good they are you'll never see them anyway : ^ )

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:26:20 No.43311321 Report Delete

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>>43311290
the rage is their style. if they want more, there's always multiclassing.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:26:42 No.43311324 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311357

>>43311291
Every man has his place, brother...and every man i his place.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:27:53 No.43311336 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311371

>>43311291
If you were good at all at using your imagination it wouldn't be an issue.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:27:54 No.43311337 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311371

>>43311291
>Monks
>Oriental
Not since a long time ago, in the lore there're monk monasteries everyfuckingwhere since centuries even hundreds of years

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:28:49 No.43311342 Report Delete

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>>43311290
No, but I do think all martials should have maneuvers. Except monk, they already get fancy shit to do

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:28:56 No.43311343 Report Delete

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>>43311291
>Le masterbaits

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:29:56 No.43311354 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311408 >>43311412

>>43311314
>When the alpha draft got out everybody said monks were OP
>Now everybody says monks are shit
The fuck happened?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:30:12 No.43311357 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311377 >>43311378

>>43311324
medieval monks =! martial arts

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:31:18 No.43311364 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311430

>>43311291
>D&D
>Traditional fantasy setting
Nice meme'd

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:31:56 No.43311371 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311397

>>43311336
>>43311337

Call me old fashioned, but when I picture noteurope I don't see robed people beating the shit out of dragons or walking on water.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:32:12 No.43311375 Report Delete

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Question about cones. And that question is: Why does the 30 foot cone target look like that? It doesn't look like a cone at all. Is there some math to it that I could do real fast?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:32:20 No.43311377 Report Delete

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>>43311357
The hell you say.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:32:21 No.43311378 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311430

>>43311357
D&D =! Medieval European fantasy ;^)

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:33:29 No.43311388 Report Delete

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>>43307434
The character would logically want their arm back, but the player chose to make a one armed man because they wanted to play a one armed man.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:34:04 No.43311397 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311430

>>43311371
Call me old fashioned too but D&D never was Europe, since day one it had not-Mongols, not-Native Americans, not-hidu shit, etc

So go suck a cactus and stop this stupid bait

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:34:59 No.43311408 Report Delete

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>>43311354
people played the game

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:36:01 No.43311412 Report Delete

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>>43311354
Feats and good math happened

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:38:25 No.43311430 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311451 >>43311854

>>43311397
>>43311378
>>43311364

Every core class is based off medieval influence.
>except the monk
it sticks out like a sore thumb and the class makes no sense from a mechanical point of view. It goes against all internal logic of the other classes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:38:43 No.43311431 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>Replying to this old bait
Come on

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:39:13 No.43311434 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311445 >>43311497

>>43308592
>5e's clearly and directly stated design goal was to appeal to all D&D players, old-school and new.
Ironically, they ended up ostracizing their 4e fans in the process of getting back the 3.5 ones. That didn't really pan out for them.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:40:03 No.43311445 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311464

>>43311434
It panned out really well for them. They can't print enough books to satisfy demand and there's never been more players.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:41:06 No.43311451 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311499 >>43311501

>>43311430
>There aren't fighters, barbarians, wizards, sorcerers, rangers, etc in other cultures
The fuck?
To me are Paladins the ones who don't fit my shintoist setting, someone should remove them from the core.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:42:38 No.43311464 Report Delete

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>>43311445
They got their pre-4e fans back. There's far more of those than just the 4e ones. They still didn't manage the whole "appeal to old and new", but turns out that doesn't matter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:44:25 No.43311496 Report Delete

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>>43310179
Where in the story did he say that the characters missing arm was his only feature? Even if it was that's just poor characterisation, not being a special snowflake.

The player acted immaturely, but it's still shit DMimg to take away one of the PCs characteristics without consulting them. If the guy wanted to have two arms he would have just made a character with two arms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:44:25 No.43311497 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311517

>>43311434
That might be a problem if 4e had been anywhere near as popular as the previous editions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:44:42 No.43311499 Report Delete

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>>43311451
and I wouldn't include paladins if I were DM'ing an oriental campaign, that's exactly my fucking point

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:44:56 No.43311501 Report Delete

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>>43311451
>can't fit in paladins
Do you even samurai?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:46:05 No.43311514 Report Delete

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>>43311501
what is finesse fighter

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:46:28 No.43311517 Report Delete

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>>43311497
According to Mearls every new edition has outsold the old one.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:47:28 No.43311523 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311533 >>43311594

Why this totally Medieval European dude is ok

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:48:31 No.43311533 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311594

>>43311523
But this isn't?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:49:49 No.43311540 Report Delete

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Come on, guys, it's like small kids, he's not going to stop till you ignore him

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:50:38 No.43311550 Report Delete

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>>43311517
Just because people buy the books doesn't mean they end up liking and playing them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:54:39 No.43311589 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43311218
If its under 120lb then he can

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:54:44 No.43311593 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311608

>>43311149
just careful with the investigation part.
please understand that a 8 player game is more or less a extreme board game. You will fail at any sort of investigation application that isn't super simple.
Flavored combat sim, until players start to fall off then focus more on story. KISS

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:54:54 No.43311594 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311613 >>43311682

>>43311523
>>43311533

Yes, one is gonna cut you up like people from every setting can. The other is going to slap you because he trained in a secluded monastery and his body turned into magic so he can Jackie Chan you up and run up walls and water.

You're missing my point. Monks don't fit from a mechanical point of view.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:56:47 No.43311608 Report Delete

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>>43311593
I only have 4 players? Where did you get 8 from

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:57:13 No.43311613 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311628 >>43311656

>>43311594
>because he trained in a secluded monastery and his body turned into magic so he can Jackie Chan you up and run up walls and water.
So like wizards, sorcerers and other casters?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:58:42 No.43311628 Report Delete

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>>43311613
Nah, maybe not sorcerers, but wizards and clerics do train in secluded monasteries/wizard towers and are able to do that shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:01:08 No.43311646 Report Delete

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Why are 5e threads so angry?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:02:02 No.43311656 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311681 >>43311699

>>43311613
Who can do magic. Monks however arbitrarily gain all these powers because of their chi, which no other class even uses. Their body also becomes magic damage just because, they get to walk on vertical surfaces and fluids, NOT AGE and a whole other truckload of bullshit. Because of their body? Fuck that.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:04:34 No.43311681 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311714

>>43311656
>Monks make careful study of a magical energy that most monastic traditions call ki. This energy is an element of the magic that suffuses the multiverse—specifically, the element that flows through living bodies. Monks harness this power within themselves
Monks are just as magic as other casters

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:04:41 No.43311682 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311714

>>43311594
And you're still missing the point, not mine, no, the whole point, D&D was never an European fantasy, it was, since day one, an amalgam of different cultures, mythos and settings all mixed together. Just because it has knights and castles doesn't mean it's European.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:06:30 No.43311699 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311728 >>43311759

>>43311656
>NOT AGE
So like druids?
>Chi, which no other class even uses
So like Rage from Barbarians?
>Their body becomes magic damage
So like casters who cast magic weapon on themselves?
>Walk on vertical surfaces and fluids
So like casters who cast the spell in question?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:08:16 No.43311714 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43311681
>>43311682
All right, fine. Points taken.

I'm still not going to include monks in any medieval setting we play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:10:06 No.43311728 Report Delete

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>>43311699

I mean moon druids do all this shit and more because moon druids are better then every other class in the game.

I really like moon druids

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:13:06 No.43311759 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311791 >>43311808 >>43311814

>>43311699
>So like druids?
there's a difference between "timeless body" of the druid class and the monk class, druids still age
>So like Rage from Barbarians?
totally not chi, but sheer adrenaline
>So like casters who cast magic weapon on themselves?
>So like casters who cast the spell in question?
Yeah, they CAST that shit. Monks just get it because reasons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:16:01 No.43311791 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311851

>>43311759
>there's a difference between "timeless body" of the druid class and the monk class, druids still age
Oath of Ancients paladins, however, do not.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:17:47 No.43311808 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311851

>>43311759

i mean you're still aging internally, i think you'll probably die long before a druid does.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:18:24 No.43311814 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311851

>>43311759
>Druids still age
And monks still die at whatever it's the span of their race, so in the end, druids live longer, 10 times longer actually.
Monk dies young at the age of 80, for example, and druid lives till 800 years old.
>totally not chi, but sheer adrenaline
Why can't I use my adrenaline as a fighter? also why your adrenaline lets you fly?
>Monks just get it because reasons
And casters get it because reasons too, reasons being different mechanics

If you don't like chi call it vis vitalis

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:18:31 No.43311818 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311861 >>43311867

Hey /5eg/ quick question, asked this a while ago but the edition was still kind of new at the time and no one had an answer, hoping someone might now,

Thinking about using 5e to run a campaign where modern firearms are freely available for both PCs and NPCs. If my PCs are starting at a low level (1-3) will they get completely raped by fighting against NPCs armed with firearms from the DM's guide? (most would probably just have pistols, 2d6 per round). What if I grant all the PC's toughness as a bonus feat? I want there to be a real risk of death but I don't want to make it virtually impossible. Assuming all the PC's will have just as good or better guns than the NPCs will they stand a chance?

Anyone actually play in a campaign using these weapon stats yet?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:21:51 No.43311851 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43311791
>>43311808
>>43311814
... Okay, that makes sense.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:22:15 No.43311854 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311878

>>43311430
>Every core class is based off medieval influence.

druids are pre-medieval

and wizards are based on a science-fantasy series

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:22:48 No.43311861 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312020

>>43311818
>2d6+Dex against first level characters
On average 7+Dex damage, you'll kill half the PCs with only one shot
>What if I grant all the PC's toughness as a bonus feat?
Absolutely nothing happens, that feat only adds +2, at best PCs now survive two shots

Is not virtually impossible, if you roll to hit always under 7-8 they'll survive

> Assuming all the PC's will have just as good or better guns than the NPCs will they stand a chance?
The one who wins the initiative wins, combats will last 1 turn, 2 at best

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:23:29 No.43311867 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311888 >>43312020

>>43311818
PCs will get raped in combat at level 1-3 regardless. You're supposed to run away from things at those levels

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:24:09 No.43311878 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43311854
Arthurian romance, my friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:25:14 No.43311888 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43311905 >>43311941

>>43311867
>You're supposed to run away from things at those levels
6th season and still at 2nd level because we only get exp for non combat encounter, game is turning up fucking tedious, thinking on baling out

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:27:12 No.43311905 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43311888
Should've bailed when the DM said "you're starting at level 1"

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:30:44 No.43311941 Report Delete

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>>43311888
Your GM should throw weak stuff at you like 12 or so kobolds, two bugbears or so

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:33:59 No.43311976 Report Delete

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Anyone have the new Forgotten Realms map from SCAG?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:38:42 No.43312020 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312527

>>43311861
>>43311867

Cool, thanks for the estimates. At what levels do you guys think the PC's would generally be durable enough to survive firearm combat if they all have toughness? Maybe around 5 or 6? (assuming they are playing fighter types and take the sure-fire hp increase that'd be around 40 hp depending on con modifier, so they could take a hit about 4 times maybe before getting knocked out of the fight. More if they have healers/healing items).

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:41:57 No.43312048 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312099

I started a group with one of the one-offs in Phlan but decided on doing PotA. How can I explain the relocation without having them travel for months?

They aren't familiar with the geography of the world so I could just say Phlan is on the Sword Coast, but that triggers my autism.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:43:14 No.43312063 Report Delete

Quoted By:

assumed you were
>>43310132

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:47:24 No.43312099 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43312048
Moongates, obviously. Or the Black Pool of Radiance teleports Phlan to the Sword Coast. It does that kind of thing all the time if you remember the old novels.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:33:01 No.43312527 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43312020
Yeah, probably 4th-5th level

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:38:55 No.43312581 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312662 >>43312688

Which god is more just and at the same time believes in second chances, Tyr, Torm, Heironeous or other? I'm rolling a devotion paladin who's naive and believes in non violent outcomes and second chances while still fighting for justice.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:44:22 No.43312638 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312666

Lighting Lure and Booming Blade, is it worth taking Magic Initiate on a Tempest Cleric for them?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:46:23 No.43312662 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312847

>>43312581
Paladins don't have to tied to a god this edition.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:46:39 No.43312666 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312736

>>43312638
They won't be keyed to Wisdom, so it depends what your Int/Cha is like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:49:07 No.43312688 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43312581
Ilmater maybe? I'm basing that on what I learned from Kaelyn the Dove.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:53:26 No.43312736 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43312666
Booming blade doesn't use casting mod in anyway, so it's probably ok.

But lighting lure uses casting mod for the saving throw dc so it probably wouldn't be worth it, which is a shame considering it would interact with thunderbolt strike.

Although of the two booming blade is better, considering it still allows you to apply Divine Strike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:03:12 No.43312835 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43310089
>Only a dope would try to bludgeon a gooey sack of rotting flesh that feels no pain.

Which is why nobody ever uses baseball bats or maces against zombies... oh wait.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:04:07 No.43312847 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43312932

>>43312662
> "Which god would make sense for my character concept?"
> "You don't need a god."

Real fuckin' helpful, anon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:10:46 No.43312932 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43312847
If you can't find a god, no god is still a valid option.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:11:30 No.43312939 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43311291
>I feel like monks really don't belong in the core classes list. As an addition for oriental flavor campaigns, sure, but the whole concept of monks is completely bonkers in a traditional fantasy setting.

Welcome to fucking D&D where peaceful priests of healing Priests all wear heavy armor, Armor makes you harder to hit instead of harder to hurt, spells go up to 9th level, Demons and Devils are completely different things, and Gorgons are giant metal bulls that breathe poison.

A lot of the stuff you're complaining about happened in the early days of D&D, when Gygax and his buddies were just throwing in all the cool ideas they liked without the thought that it would go on to become *the standard* for vaguely medieval European themed fantasy gaming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:17:05 No.43313000 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313026

My favorite thing about the Way of the Long Death ability that fears in 30 feet is that it'll even effect your party members. That's some nice flavor for a useless ability. It's a shame the capstone, Touch of the Long Death, is so much weaker than Quivering Palm, but fortunately no one ever plays that high anyway.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:19:35 No.43313026 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313051 >>43313144

>>43313000
THPs on kill and 1 ki point to prevent dropping to 0 are very nice though.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:21:45 No.43313051 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313281

>>43313026
Forgot the pic

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:26:31 No.43313119 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313144

Do sun bolts get disadvantage if you're in melee?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:28:37 No.43313144 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313162 >>43313192

>>43313026
No doubt better than sanctuary after long rest and restoring 3xLevel hp per day, at least most days.

For the Sun Soul, notable limitations are
>Radiant Sun Bolts can flurry, but not basic martial arts. Only works with Ki.
>Searing Arc Strike still needs to hit 3 or 4 creatures to be worth its cost over flurry.
>Searing Sunburst is fireball, but Con save and does not deal half damage on a successful save, so worse than fireball.
>Sun Shield requires you to get hit in melee, but you'll have poor HP and everything else is good at ranged.

>>43313119
Yes, they are ranged.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:30:19 No.43313162 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43313144
Yeah, both subclasses are cool, but still monk sare pretty limited.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:32:06 No.43313192 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43313144
Fuck, they could have made it like whip attacks or like thornwhip.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:38:21 No.43313281 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313332 >>43313361

>>43313051
While the thread's dying, Four Elements shenanigans.

>Fist of Unbroken Air on a creature flying above you, knocking it higher into the air and prone, so it falls for up to 5d6 extra damage.
>Running on a wall to get above an enemy and doing the reverse by pulling them up for up to 2d6 extra damage and still knocking them prone.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:42:27 No.43313332 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43313401

>>43313281
>so it falls for up to 5d6 extra damage.
Nope, 3d6 tops, fist of unbroken air has 30ft range. But those sound like cool ideas.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:44:57 No.43313361 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43313281
>Be aarakocra druid
>Do that all day erre day
Top caw

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:48:11 No.43313401 Report Delete

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>>43313332
It also pushes 20 feet directly away from you.

Worse but funnier option: The table that limits how much Ki you can spend on an elemental discipline spell only applies to spells. You can spend your whole load of Ki on one Fist.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:55:20 No.43313483 Report Delete

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>>43311291
It's 4chan so no surprise a 16 year old would come up with this racist shit but pic related

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