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Only if you have a retarded and shoehorned sexuality in real life.

Like, if you are attracted to shoehorns, and then only play character attracted to shoehorns, yeah, it would be shoehorning.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:39:41 No.43329247 Report Delete

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>>43329220
>>43329173
>>43329203
>>43329175

Is it shoehorning if most of my characters are the same sexuality?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:50:53 No.43329309 Report Delete

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>>43329172
Maybe.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:54:30 No.43329331 Report Delete

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>>43329234
This. It's only shitty and annoying if you are a shitty annoying person that thinks their sexuality is the only thing worth talking about ever.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:55:06 No.43329333 Report Delete

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>>43329122
Depends upon the sexuality, the setting and the amount of relevancy you give to it.

Without further info apart from the way you posted the question, I'm going to say yes.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:56:13 No.43329336 Report Delete

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>>43329122

Only if your sexuality is deviant or otherwise weird. Like, most media assumes heterosexuality; If you're heterosexual, no worries, as long as you're not a complete horndog/slut. If it's something else, please keep it to yourself.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:57:45 No.43329347 Report Delete

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>>43329122
Only if you're one of those shitty tumblr sexualities instead of a normal human being

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:03:18 No.43329376 Report Delete

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>>43329220
Go home Claudia

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:09:48 No.43329412 Report Delete

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>>43329220
https://youtu.be/YTAsbK9-ixk?t=917

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:09:49 No.43329413 Report Delete

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>>43329333

What if its something as small as has a lover/husband back home?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:10:49 No.43329421 Report Delete

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>>43329412
Shit. 15:17 is the time I was going for.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:15:26 No.43329452 Report Delete

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>>43329122
Yes, and you also made a shitty thread.

If you have a fetish, and you make your character have that same fetish, you've committed shoehorning.

So, keep your fetish to yourself, and keep the /pol/ discussions on /pol/, you troll.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:19:22 No.43329464 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43330897

>>43329122
Is it coming up too frequently or at inappropriate times?

Does the treatment of your sexuality mesh with the setting's treatment of the same sexuality?

If no to the first and yes to the second, you're probably fine.

>>43329247
Is it shoehorning if a straight white guy plays predominantly straight white guys? Play what you can relate to if it helps you get into character. No shame in it.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:21:50 No.43329486 Report Delete

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>>43329452
>being straight is a fetish

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:32:37 No.43329550 Report Delete

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>>43329413
That's part, but not all of, the relevancy
Hand over sexuality and setting

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:34:17 No.43329565 Report Delete

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>>43329122
I always play young-ish straight usually white men.

What matters is personality and stuff though.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:59:10 No.43329729 Report Delete

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>>43329550

Gay, Dnd5e/Pathfinder

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:04:54 No.43329767 Report Delete

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>>43329729
Don't try to seduce other players, and don't go into more detail with local squires than the bard does with local barmaids. Other than that, unless your players are bigots, noone will care.
It's entirely natural to play characters of your sexuality so long as it's not something bizzare or offputting like horses or corpses.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:44:38 No.43330490 Report Delete

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>>43329767
>so long as it's not something bizzare or offputting like horses or corpses.
Both of those have "safe" outlets in tour generic fantasy setting. Just romance a centaur or a lich.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:48:12 No.43330515 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43330540 >>43331249

>>43329122
If the sexuality of your character ends up mattering at all, then yes.

See Dumbledore, the only good part of Harry Potter. The fact that he was gay literally didn't matter or effect the story in any way. Your sexuality shouldn't either.

Unless you're in a sexual game that everyone is cool with, in that case have fun.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:50:42 No.43330540 Report Delete

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>>43330515
>dumbledore
>gay

Author's death says otherwise. And, he was asexual by every other distinction.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:57:10 No.43330587 Report Delete

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>>43330540
> author's death
JK Rowling is still alive. And in Twitter or some shit she said Dumbledore was gay. It was never mentioned in the book because it never mattered. Even if he was asexual, again, it never mattered.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:59:52 No.43330612 Report Delete

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>>43330587

It did matter. It explains why he gives that odd gift to Ron.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:00:28 No.43330626 Report Delete

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>>43330587
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_the_Author

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:00:34 No.43330627 Report Delete

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>>43330612
>giving a gift to a man makes me gay.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:01:35 No.43330638 Report Delete

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>>43330612
Because he was a flamer and thought Ron was too?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:02:03 No.43330644 Report Delete

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>>43330627

>Giving a gift to a man that even other characters in setting note is odd for no easily discernable reason and by all rights would have worked better had he given it to Harry.

Yes, it's suspicious. It's even remarked upon as odd, even by Dumbledore standards. Clearly, it speaks to homosexual attraction between teacher and student.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:03:14 No.43330661 Report Delete

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>>43330626
Interesting. Thank you.

Even if my example was weak, I still stand by my point that sexuality shouldn't affect the story.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:04:30 No.43330675 Report Delete

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>>43330644
>giving a gift to a student makes me a gay pedophile.

I fail to see the connection.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:07:41 No.43330713 Report Delete

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>>43329413
im not sure what you mean by sexuality then

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:08:44 No.43330729 Report Delete

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>>43329122
you know funnily enough despite being straight myself Im pretty sure every character I have ever played has been bisexual

doesent really matter most of the time but still interesting

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:10:05 No.43330741 Report Delete

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>>43330490
and you can even geat a feat out of fucking the lich

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:12:26 No.43330773 Report Delete

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>>43329122
It shouldn't fucking matter

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:14:50 No.43330790 Report Delete

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>>43330644
CLEARLY
because homo has 4 letters
Ron has 3
therefor Dumbledore has the hots 4 Ron and Ron wants a 3 sum.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:16:32 No.43330805 Report Delete

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It's not shoehorning

It's ostensibly natural

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:17:44 No.43330810 Report Delete

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>>43330790
Here's another one.
Ian McKellen is gay.
He plays Gandolf.
He gives a ring to Frodo.
As established weird gifts = gay.
Doubly so since the actor is gay, so he only portrays gay characters.
The difference was a ring
Cock ring.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:18:58 No.43330828 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43330866 >>43330886

>>43329122
For some people sexuality is a major part of life. For others, sexuality is entirely irrelevant. If you want to roleplay a complex character, you should consider exactly what the sexuality means for a character like yours.

One of my favourite characters was straight as an arrow, but had a lifelong dream to fuck a god. When the opportunity presented itself, he was instead fucked by a god. A male one.

No biggie. How many mortals are so lucky?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:22:29 No.43330866 Report Delete

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>>43330828
that makes a lot of sense actually I know I would be willing to fuck a male slime person so its the same thing really

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:24:21 No.43330886 Report Delete

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>>43330828
I don't think getting your behind railed by Zeus should be considered good luck

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:26:01 No.43330897 Report Delete

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>>43329464
What if there are no White Guys in setting?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:27:27 No.43330908 Report Delete

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>sexuality

Yay, another retarded thread. Thank you, propaganda faggots.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:28:23 No.43330917 Report Delete

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>>43330897
The setting gets disregarded

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:30:42 No.43330932 Report Delete

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>>43329122
Unless you point it out at times when it's irrelevant, probably not.
For example:
>Whole party except you goes to brothel or similar to celebrate a job
>outgoing character, not pious or anything, declines
>on questioning admits that he's "not really interested in women"
Not shoehorned

>party enters tavern
>"I hit on the bartender."
>bartender politely rejects you
>"Are there other men in this place? Time to get some D."
Shoehorned

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:33:12 No.43330952 Report Delete

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>>43330886
>not getting railed from behind by the father of gods
>being this fucking basic

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:34:13 No.43330960 Report Delete

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>>43330932
I am in love with you.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:41:40 No.43331028 Report Delete

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>>43330960
LONDON
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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:43:25 No.43331045 Report Delete

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>>43329122
Considering you're making a big deal about sexuality, I'm going to assume you're homosexual. In that case, remember that there's a big difference between a total badass who just happens to be gay and a total fucking faggot fruitcake who constantly slaps butts and gropes balls.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:47:50 No.43331075 Report Delete

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>>43331045
The former is fiction, the latter the unfortunate reality.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:53:01 No.43331124 Report Delete

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>>43330897
>does it mesh with the setting's treatment of
Still applies, more or less. A white guy in Mouseguard or an Oddworld tabletop would be pretty out of place.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:04:35 No.43331249 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43331347 >>43331478 >>43331485

>>43330515
>I don't mind gay characters in fiction, as long as it's impossible to know they're gay until the author says so after the series has ended, so for all intents and purposes they're not!
Gr8 h8 str8.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:15:39 No.43331341 Report Delete

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>>43329172
Kill yourself

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:16:15 No.43331347 Report Delete

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>>43331249
That's really the only way they'll ever be tolerated. Stop trying to force people to accept you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:29:35 No.43331478 Report Delete

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>>43331249
Making people flaming homoes for the sake of having fags in your work is pretty shitty.
Making your fags just regular protagonists that happen to enjoy having a dick in their ass is the way to go.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:30:16 No.43331485 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43331643 >>43332697

>>43331249
>Characters aren't gay unless they are flamboyant and in your face about how not-straight they are.

Because that is how we practice tolerance.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:31:34 No.43331492 Report Delete

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>>43331478
This.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:42:41 No.43331591 Report Delete

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>>43331478
Pretty much this. Most people who are straight most commonly play straight people and most people who are male typically play male characters, so it doesn't make sense that a gay character wouldn't commonly play a gay character. Although that doesn't mean you should play a gay character for every campaign your in.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:42:58 No.43331595 Report Delete

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>>43330908
Go back to /pol/

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:47:18 No.43331643 Report Delete

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>>43331478
>>43331485
>flaming homoes
>flamboyant and in your face
That's not what I said and you know it.
Find a middle ground.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:49:24 No.43331668 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43331679

>>43329122
yes, if you're a faggot. people can pretend you're not mentally ill out of politeness, but there's no reason to test other people's patience.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:50:23 No.43331679 Report Delete

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>>43331668
Fuck you you brainless son of a goat

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:50:33 No.43331682 Report Delete

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>>43331643
Since you only want gay characters that make their gayness known, and I character can't be gay unless it is a major character traits than yeah. That's pretty much what you said.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:52:28 No.43331698 Report Delete

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>>43331045
>but he does both...

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:02:32 No.43331810 Report Delete

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>>43331595
That's where you should be.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:17:15 No.43331958 Report Delete

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I know what you're doing and I'm taking the bait anyway because other people could benefit.

If your sexuality is a defining feature of your character, something you feel is an important aspect of who your character is, then that is shoehorning.

If you make a list of defining characteristics and sexuality is among them, you done wrong.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:24:06 No.43332028 Report Delete

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>>43331682
What about a character who is a man who's dating a man, and we know this from "on-screen" dialogue, but this fact is never the focus of the story, and the character doesn't act like a stereotype?
I mean, straight characters don't have THE STRAIGHT ONE as "a major character trait" unless they're total creepers, so why would the reverse be all-or-nothing?

*NO EARTHLY WAY OF SUSPECTING I'M NOT STRAIGHT*
(lots of space)
*complex character who happens to be gay*
(lots of space)
*ONE-MAN PRIDE PARADE 24-7 LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT ALL THE COCKS I SUCK*

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:28:33 No.43332087 Report Delete

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>>43329122
If it's not appropriate for the setting: stop.

If it's appropriate for the setting: Carry on, soldier.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:33:19 No.43332157 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43332444 >>43332543

>>43332028
False equivalence. That's all that needs to be said.

Stop. Whatever argument you're about to try to cook up, it's been heard a million times before, and refuted a million times as well. If you really want to continue your line of discussion, take that shit to /pol/.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:56:11 No.43332444 Report Delete

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>>43332157
>Any character who is stated to be gay in the story itself is inherently an insufferable flaming homo with no personality beyond being gay because I said so!
>My word is law, I don't have to use logic because I'm right and I order you to stop!
Yep, can't argue with that.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:59:54 No.43332478 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43332526

>>43332444
That's not what being argued, Mr. I-need-a-diversionary-strawman.

Really, just head to /pol/. No need for your silly distractions and bait here.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:03:36 No.43332526 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43332569

>>43332478
Then what IS being argued exactly?
It seems to me like:
>flaming homoes
>flamboyant and in your face
are saying there's no middle ground. You use a strawman, I use a strawman back.

Please rephrase your argument in a way that won't be misconstrued.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:05:20 No.43332543 Report Delete

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>>43332157

>I don't know how to respond so I'll just allude to some vague times where others have already responded in a way that makes me right

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:07:31 No.43332569 Report Delete

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>>43332526
Please, don't be so juvenile. I'm not going to engage you as long as your entire argument relies on false equivalence, and you're only method of argumentation is erecting strawmen.

So, please, stop embarrassing yourself.
You're probably not smart enough to know when to walk away, but this is one of those moments.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:19:24 No.43332697 Report Delete

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>>43332569
>I'm not going to argue, but you're wrong because I said so!
Fine then. Dumbledore is not an example of a well-written gay character, because him being gay is never alluded to in the text at all.
So saying more fictional gay characters should be like him is saying they should metaphorically build a brick wall over their closet door.
Which effectively implies it's wrong to write about gay characters, because if it's not in writing it's not part of the character.
>>43331478 and >>43331485 are the ones who falsely equated the simple fact of being gay with "flamboyant and in your face" about it.

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