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Jumpchain CYOA Thread #567: Dear God It's 3AM Edition

NuBee Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:47:51 No.43345612 View Reply Report Delete

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:49:07 No.43345628 Report Delete

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Only 2:45 Anon

Bar ain't closed yet

Justiceanon !8FVFEBTVK2

Justiceanon !8FVFEBTVK2 Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:49:10 No.43345629 Report Delete

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Repostan

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I have no fucking idea what's going on.

Did some talking with the IRC and some reading on the wiki.
The reason the SCP has 05 level Clearance, is because he's on the Ethics Committee, who have 05 level Knowledge Clearance.

So Justice is on the SCP Ethics Committee, joy of fucking joys

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:49:47 No.43345632 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43345640 >>43345643 >>43345655 >>43346009 >>43346088 >>43346127 >>43346150 >>43346191 >>43346861 >>43347928 >>43352632 >>43355076 >>43357526 >>43358016

You're fighting your final battle and your Spark is about to awaken, what song plays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:50:56 No.43345640 Report Delete

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>>43345632
An die Freude, of course.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:51:25 No.43345643 Report Delete

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>>43345632
Because Obviously https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeUMCgZdEyU

The Merchant !tMYi2E5XOU

The Merchant !tMYi2E5XOU Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:53:11 No.43345655 Report Delete

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>>43345632
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWZs5POCp0I
Is my forecast for this run. Might be proven wrong though.

Brows

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Brows Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:59:13 No.43345714 Report Delete

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>>43345101
Hey, real life happens to all of us. Don't feel bad because something unexpected got in the way.

And besides that, It's still not my intention to take the jump from you if you still want to work on it. Really, it'd probably be better if we collaborated instead, but whatever your choice is, I'd be glad to defer to it since you're the one who called dibs on it.

I never got past loose planning stages, but I do have a few ideas. I have a pastebin of my (very, very early) WIP here-

http://pastebin.com/ntnv8ZtN

I might include undiscounted Genocide perks, to follow with the spirit that you should definitely not be taking shit like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:59:44 No.43345719 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346191

Could you use Theme from Smite to make all of your powers match your Lord of Light aspect and thus receive the large power boost?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:24:34 No.43345931 Report Delete

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>>43345643
I just spent 10 minutes looking through my pictures to find something that could convey how much I second that song choice.

I could not find anything, so have this instead.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:30:11 No.43345980 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346191 >>43346207

>>43345714
>Implying genocide isn't the only true way

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:32:54 No.43346009 Report Delete

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>>43345632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IEbfDtDaUc

Call me unoriginal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:35:42 No.43346028 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346138

Question about Supreme Commander: For drop in we start with all T1 Units right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:41:55 No.43346088 Report Delete

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>>43345632
https://youtu.be/NhQILQgkClo?t=397

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:47:15 No.43346127 Report Delete

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>>43345632
https://youtu.be/7Wt6XlVob_E

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:48:40 No.43346138 Report Delete

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>>43346028
"Faction Tech Level:
UEF, Aeon, and Cybran backgrounds start with Tier 1 and some of Tier 2 tech of their respective faction with the rest of the tech being given to them by their superiors throughout the jump. One can expect to start to receive experimental schematics by year 6.
Drop Ins starts with Tier 1 tech of all factions and would have to acquire tech schematics of the rest on their own unless they join a faction.
When purchasing basic schematics such as T3 Factory Schematics, Drop Ins choose what Faction tech type they want. They can even buy 3 of each factory type to get all Factions (you can consider this a counter to the fact that, without conversion ray tech, getting new tech without Faction help is incredibly hard.)
Those with UEF, Aeon, or Cybran background are limited to their Faction Tech when purchasing."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:50:19 No.43346150 Report Delete

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>>43345632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5J3wtLLz-iE

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:51:38 No.43346159 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346876 >>43347442 >>43348519

Acheld; how long does casting take? I initially thought it was instant; pay the mana to cast it and you'red done, but the Spell of Mastery definitely takes time, and Spell Blast works to stop spells in progress by paying 50+ whatever they've already paid. Does this mean spells are cast as you get mana for them, so if you have enough you can cast them instantly, if you don't you pay it off until you've spent the casting cost and the spell happens?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:56:38 No.43346191 Report Delete

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>>43345719
Well, probably not a huge one considering it's 100 CP, and free for Hybrids.

Besides, that's not how Aspects work. You have an Aspect, and you enact it through your Attribute. Your other powers having elements of your Aspect would at best have incidental effects because by and large they have nothing to do with it; you don't see Yama or Kali powering up by standing near graveyards or Agni powering up by standing near an open bonfire. Being a god in Lord of Light is more like being a particularly powerful psion with one gimmick than anything. Agni for example blew himself up after he used the Universal Fire on Yama while Yama was wearing his red robe in a confined spacecraft.

>>43345980
This. Haven't even played the game

>>43345632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjufc7GMrCs

This seems appropriate.

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Brows Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:58:17 No.43346207 Report Delete

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>>43345980
>>43346191

Pic related.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:59:45 No.43346214 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346311 >>43346340

>>43346191
Wait, so what does this mean, then?
>Any powers raised in harmony with your raised Aspect are magnified and exalted – they are more than just spells or mutation, they are in service of the very order of the universe. An arrow loosed by the Goddess of the Bow might strike a man’s heart from ten miles away, or pin his courage to the wall.
Is this just referring to your attribute?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:10:54 No.43346311 Report Delete

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>>43346214

No that's referring to anything - superscience, psionics, magic, etc. It gives them a layer of "divinity" or "authority" or "mythic force".

It would be somewhat similar to Soulfire from the Dresden Files - more presence, more attuned, more real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:14:41 No.43346338 Report Delete

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6E2hYDIFDIU
It was his favourite song, its only fitting that the reason I started Jumping would remind me in the end.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:14:57 No.43346340 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346385 >>43346629

>>43346214
We...thought so?

At least, that's what we thought until literally a few seconds ago. Actually, we just found some quotes by Mir in the archive-

http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43230125/#43232876
http://archive.4plebs.org/tg/thread/43230125/#43233088

-which seem to indicate Aspects are, indeed, meant to synchronise up with other things.

So that seems to be a valid reading of the perk if you like, even though I think the whole thing's more ambiguous in the actual book but it's heavily implied the gods are just buying their own hype considering Sam basically tells Yama to fuck off when he busts out the quote in the jump about godhood. Sam's a first gen colonist and his electromagnetism was instrumental in winning the war against the Rakasha, so I figured he'd know better about what he was talking about since Aspects/Attributes grow stronger with age.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:20:55 No.43346385 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346459

>>43346340
Wait, seriously? All this time as the god of Stasis and you haven't been using it to enhance every last thing you do towards that goal? Anti-Spiral, I am disappointed in you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:27:06 No.43346433 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346539

So opinions: UEF T3 Ground or Cybran t3 Ground factory?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:30:02 No.43346459 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346468 >>43346472

>>43346385
You misunderstand-we have. But not in the way you'd assume-by abusing Chosen of Death to hell and back, going to and fro in the Earth and building superstructures based on Yama's true forte: Crazy, crazy science, to enhance the bejeesus out of our Aspect. It's slower than just waving a hand and scorching a battlefield with a fireball but the rewards are well worth the investment into quantum mechanics and rare earths. If Sam could dominate a battlefield with lightning strikes merely by donning some wearable devices, imagine what the God of Stasis can do when he merges Song Science with vast factory-cathedrals embodying his Aspect, and nanites construct them to ring a city in a span of days.

Also, just looked up the conversation in the book. Sam refers to Aspects as being a mutant power of the brain, and Yama says it's directly tied to the sense of identity generated by the electrical and chemical makeup of one's brain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:31:40 No.43346468 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346472 >>43346482 >>43346908

>>43346459
> Sam refers to Aspects as being a mutant power of the brain, and Yama says it's directly tied to the sense of identity generated by the electrical and chemical makeup of one's brain.
So is the jump just full of shit or something with all this divine stuff then?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:32:40 No.43346472 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346513 >>43346541

>>43346459
No one's arguing that they're not mutant powers, the thing you disagree on is the idea that the mutations have keyed them into some underlying metaphysical aspect of the universe.

>>43346468
See above. No need to approach everything hostilely and with paranoia.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:34:39 No.43346482 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346485

>>43346468
To my understanding, it's more like the gods are full of shit. Their powers are all the result of ridiculously sufficiently advanced technology that make them akin to gods, which they then hoard and refuse to share with the common man (because then they couldn't be gods). Then they call themselves gods and humanity, not knowing better (and facing terrible fates if they refuse), treats them as such.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:36:00 No.43346485 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346540

>>43346482
Nah, it's more like people call them gods because of their power until they believe it. Still though, the argument is made that they're keying into some aspect of the universe with their powers, so it could be something more. Don't take ASA's opinion as fact, that wasn't his goal.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:40:41 No.43346513 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346527 >>43346645 >>43346655

>>43346472
Pretty much, yeah. Reckon Aspects are to godhood as Song Magic is to actual magic. Like say, Wheel of Time magic or Negima magic.

Worth noting that if Kali's botched reincarnation is any indication, Aspects can be permanently taken away by sufficient brain damage.

Oh. Oh, this is rich. That quote in the jump? Here: The exchange between Sam and Yama that follows directly after it:

'So they play that on their facist banjos, eh?'
'You choose the wrong adjective'
'You've already used up all the others'
'It appears that our minds will never meet on this subject'
'If someone asks you why you're oppressing a world and you reply with a lot of poetic crap, no. I guess there can't be a meeting of minds'

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:42:47 No.43346527 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346541 >>43346631

>>43346513
Right. Disagreement is fine, but please, endeavor to stress that this is a matter of interpretation of the material, not that your interpretation is abject fact. As you can read above, the more reactive and hateful types above were ready to lynch the jumpmaker because of the misconception you caused.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:45:27 No.43346539 Report Delete

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>>43346433
Well, given the T3 Factory purchase also gives you the schematics for any units a T3 factory can build (but not anything those units can build) the main difference is probably the Cybran T2 mobile stealth generator and T3 amphibious assault bot vs the UEF T2 mobile shield generator and T3 shielded assault bot?

So basically Cybran is stealth+amphibious and UEF is shields+dakka?

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:45:28 No.43346540 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346563

>>43346485
This is also correct. Ultimately it's a deliberately ambiguously described thing because spiritualism and mystery and philosophy woot woot. So there's certainly room for more than one interpretation on what the Aspects and Attributes are. I may be biased towards Sam's PoV as the main character, as he's the main proponent of "godhood a shit" in the book.

The thought does occur, though, that if you had an Imaginos body and an Aspect you could do...interesting things. Especially if your Aspect pertains to technology somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:45:46 No.43346541 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346550 >>43346631

>>43346472
Don't put words in my mouth mate. It's not hostile or paranoia to just use a swear word. I was asking why the jump calls everything a god if it isn't one, not attacking the jump maker.

>>43346527
See above, don't put words in my mouth.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:47:14 No.43346550 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346553 >>43346600 >>43346701

>>43346541
You were extremely hostile, attacking the jump because you thought ASA's opinion, his interpretation, was abject fact. It's not putting words into your mouth to comment on that tone. And again, their is disagreement in the book. ASA sides with Sam. That's valid, but it's not the only interpretation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:47:51 No.43346553 Report Delete

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>>43346550
Well, if you want to decide what I think and mean when I say something, I guess I can't stop you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:49:50 No.43346563 Report Delete

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>>43346540
I imagine it'd just shape you to look closer to what you represent. Would get pretty impressive when you catch up to Alita's level at the end of Last Order, you'd get something like her angel transformation only more themed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:56:54 No.43346600 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346608

>>43346550
Gotta point out anon, for a guy who seems to criticise just having one interpretation as absolute fact, you seem pretty eager to have only your interpretation of other anon's words be right, despite them personally telling you otherwise. Just thought I'd point out the rampant hypocrisy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 04:58:22 No.43346608 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346631

>>43346600
Dude, they basically came in and said the jump was a lying piece of shit. How is that not an insult? How is that not hostile?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:03:02 No.43346629 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346655

>>43346340

"Call themselves?" asked Yama. "You are wrong, Sam, Godhood is more than a name. It is a condition of being. One does not achieve it merely by being immortal, [serfs reincarnate, cursed char limit]. Is it then the conditioning of an Aspect? No. Any competent hypnotist can play games with the self-image. Is it the raising up of an Attribute? Of course not. I can design machines more powerful and more accurate than any faculty a man may cultivate. Being a god is the quality of being able to be yourself to such an extent that your passions correspond with the forces of the universe, so that those who look upon you know this without hearing your name spoken. Some ancient poet said that the world is full of echoes and correspondences. Another wrote a long poem of an inferno, wherein each man suffered a torture which coincided in nature with those forces which had ruled his life. Being a god is being able to recognize within one's self these things that are important, and then to strike the single note that brings them into alignment with everything else that exists. Then, beyond morals or logic or esthetics, one is wind or fire, the sea, the mountains, rain, the sun or the stars, the flight of an arrow, the end of a day, the clasp of love. One rules through one's ruling passions. Those who look upon gods then say, without even knowing their names, 'He is Fire. She is Dance. He is Destruction. She is Love.' So, to reply to your statement, they do not call themselves gods. Everyone else does, though, everyone who beholds them."

"So they play that on their fascist banjos, eh?"

"You choose the wrong adjective."

"You've already used up all the others."

"It appears that our minds will never meet on this subject."

"If someone asks you why you're oppressing a world and you reply with a lot of poetic crap, no. I guess there can't be a meeting of minds."

"Then let us choose another subject for conversation."

"I do look upon you, though, and say, 'He is Death.'"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:03:09 No.43346631 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346663

>>43346608
Could it be them saying that was just their tone and that they meant something entirely different right here >>43346541? Nah, that couldn't be it. Who could comprehend the idea of someone even slightly crude not being a hate spewing monster, especially in a place like JC where everything is always sunshine and happiness. We should totally listen to anon deciding what other people mean and even expanding their statements to include things they never even mention like >>43346527.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:05:50 No.43346645 Report Delete

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>>43346513
>Aspects are to godhood as Song Magic is to actual magic
Oi. Don't diss the reality warp.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:07:30 No.43346655 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346662

>>43346629

See, >>43346513 is part of it, but you cut out the part where Sam implicitly accepts Yama's idea.

Sam is not a purely rational actor here. He hates. He really hates the ruling Gods, and if they were actually right about being Gods - that would be worse because their pompous arrogance would have some shred of justification.

Though of course aspects can be raised by regular immortals - peasants - it just takes vastly more time and effort.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:09:09 No.43346662 Report Delete

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>>43346655

The last part of the chapter:

"Odd ruling passion. I've heard that you were old before you were young . . ."

"You know that is true."

"You were a mechanical prodigy and a weapons master. You lost your boyhood in a burst of flame, and you became an old man that same day. Did death become your ruling passion in that moment? Or was it earlier? Or later?"

"It does not matter," said Yama.

"Do you serve the gods because you believe what you have said to me—or because you hate the larger portion of humanity?"

"I did not lie to you."

"Then Death is an idealist. Amusing."

"Not so."

"Or could it be. Lord Yama, that neither guess is correct? That your ruling passion—"

"You've mentioned her name before," said Yama, "in the same speech wherein you likened her to a disease. You were wrong then and you are still wrong. I do not care to hear that sermon over again, and since I am not at the moment sinking in quicksand, I will not."

"Peace," said Sam. "But tell me, do the ruling passions of the gods ever change?"

Yama smiled. "The goddess of dance was once the god of war. So it would seem that anything can change."

"When I have died the real death," said Sam, "then will I be changed. But until that moment I will hate Heaven with every breath that I draw. If Brahma has me burnt, I will spit into the flames. If he has me strangled, I will attempt to bite the executioner's hand. If my throat is cut, may my blood rust the blade that does it. Is that a ruling passion?"

"You are good god material," said Yama.

"Good god!" said Sam.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:09:16 No.43346663 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346687 >>43346695 >>43346737

>>43346631
I'm fed up with you self righteous types. You come in hopped up, acting insulting, and then when someone tells you not to be, you take that as the worst offense in the world. Then you spend all your time being defensive and insulting towards a person for telling you to be nice. It's not possible that your intent was lost because of your words, is it? Mistakes don't happen.

This is made all the worst by the fact that the minute I ever use that kind of language I get a swarm of people telling me not to do it, that I'm the hate spewing monster, and they sure as hell don't put things as nicely as I tried to. Yet when anyone else does it, they get support and a defense squad ready to attack the other party. There is absolutely something going wrong here, and I am sick to death of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:12:35 No.43346687 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346694 >>43346737

>>43346663
All I'm seeing here is you being salty, accusing and self righteous anon. I dunno, maybe try being less of those things? Who knows, that might just be the issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:14:33 No.43346694 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346704 >>43346737

>>43346687
I think the issue is the audience. Rather, I think the problem is that you're defensive, and I am unfortunate to be talking to you in particular and not a more reasonable individual.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:15:00 No.43346695 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346701 >>43346737

>>43346663
Man the guy outright said that he wasn't attacking the jumpmaker and then you kept going on with the hostile shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:15:54 No.43346701 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346719 >>43346737

>>43346695
Right, this very direct post over >>43346550 is a vicious, monstrous attack on his honor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:16:09 No.43346704 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346712 >>43346737

>>43346694
>more accusations
Never saw this coming.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:16:59 No.43346712 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346737

>>43346704
At this point, I'm simply returning the favor.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:18:09 No.43346719 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346730 >>43346737

>>43346701
Fact remains is that they explicitly said you were wrong in your perception of their meaning and then you kept on going with the "No, you are hostile and awful and trying to attack the jump maker" schtick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:19:55 No.43346730 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346737

>>43346719
The fact remains that one can be unintentionally hostile. Saying a jump is full of shit is an attack on it, whether you intended it to read that way or not.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:21:17 No.43346737 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346746 >>43346753 >>43346754 >>43346776

>>43346719
>>43346712
>>43346704
>>43346701
>>43346695
>>43346694
>>43346687
>>43346663
>>43346730
Oh for fuck's sake you bunch of fucking babies, stop having a pissing match over what I meant or did not mean. I asked why the jump seemed to not match what another anon said. Was I rude? Yes, I'm not a nice fucking person. Did I also drop the argument when it became clear there was no point? Yes, like you all fucking should.

Start acting like fucking grown ups already and argue over something with a point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:22:35 No.43346746 Report Delete

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>>43346737
No.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:23:39 No.43346753 Report Delete

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>>43346737
You can't seriously believe that people in 4chan will start acting like adults, can you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:23:47 No.43346754 Report Delete

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>>43346737
Nah, man. You telling me to do that just makes me want to argue more. Nice job.

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Brows Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:27:20 No.43346776 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346779 >>43346787 >>43346799

>>43346737
Swords are inherently superior to spears and anyone who says otherwise is a fucking liar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:28:30 No.43346779 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346816

>>43346776
Halberds are better than both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:29:21 No.43346787 Report Delete

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>>43346776
Trident master race reporting in, y'all wouldn't last a day in the Colliseum.

The Merchant !tMYi2E5XOU

The Merchant !tMYi2E5XOU Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:30:49 No.43346799 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346817

>>43346776
I'm packing the best melee weapon, it kills all your silly pointy stick variants. It's a flamethrower.

NuBee

NuBee Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:33:38 No.43346816 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347673

>>43346779

This guy knows what's up. Can those other silly weapons chop, stab and smash people as easily and from a distance? I think not.

Brows

Brows Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:33:47 No.43346817 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346825

>>43346799
Why would you even bother arguing for something like that? It's pointless

The Merchant !tMYi2E5XOU

The Merchant !tMYi2E5XOU Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:35:05 No.43346825 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346842 >>43346844

>>43346817
I don't know, I think it's pretty hot and has a bit of a flare to it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:35:22 No.43346827 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346831 >>43346842 >>43346846 >>43349263

Seeing plebs who, once again, hold no faith in the power held by the simple, yet effective, hammer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:36:34 No.43346831 Report Delete

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>>43346827
Don't you have some nails and boards to deal with?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:37:22 No.43346835 Report Delete

Quoted By:

You spear haters best be careful or I might have to stick this Gae Bolg somewhere it doesn't belong.

Hint: It's your Rho Aias

Brows

Brows Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:38:08 No.43346842 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43346825
Sorry, but I'm just kind of burnt on the subject

>>43346827
You're being pretty blunt. You don't have to hammer it home.

Crux

Crux Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:38:21 No.43346844 Report Delete

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>>43346825
Man. Arguments like this really burn me up.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:38:24 No.43346846 Report Delete

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>>43346827
I AM THE HAMMER.

I AM THE TIP OF HIS SPEAR.
I AM THE MAIL ABOUT HIS FIST.
I AM THE BANE OF HIS FOES, AND THE WOES OF THE TREACHEROUS.

I. AM THE END.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:39:17 No.43346851 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346862

>all these people using primitive melee weapons

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:39:41 No.43346855 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43346831
I do actually. Y'see, after I pulp your ribcage like an over-ripe watermelon? I can then use this hammer to build the box that'll hold your mangy remains.

Versatile tool, isn't it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:40:20 No.43346859 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346888

>>43346844
Really? Personally they really fire me up. Maybe 4chan isn't for you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:40:59 No.43346861 Report Delete

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>>43345632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RHItAqaW_EA

JUST GOTTA SURVIVE

FOR A FEW MORE SECONDS

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:41:16 No.43346862 Report Delete

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>>43346851
>sticking with just a tiny stomach cannon
Get on my level son.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:41:34 No.43346864 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>using weapons
>these plebs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:42:48 No.43346876 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347442

>>43346159
Are you still here creator of the Master of Magic jump? Is anyone here who actually played the game?

Crux

Crux Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:44:31 No.43346888 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43346859
Yeah, I suppose you're right. Sometimes it's better not to jump from the frying pan into the fire. I suppose I should hit the sack, anyway, and consider this whole conversation extinguished.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:47:42 No.43346908 Report Delete

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>>43346468

The jump was written in something similar to the style of the book, which deliberately does not clarify.

The question of divinity is raised and discussed in the book, and there is no resolution to it put forth - but it is clearly more ambiguous than them merely being another form of Goa'uld.

Sam dislikes the idea that they are divine, Yama accepts it. Insofar as sources go, they are the highest authorities in the book, Sam as one of the First, and Yama as the greatest scientist in their history.

Personally I think this ambiguity is more than appropriate for godhood. There are a thousand forms of divinity, some are mean, some are grand and some are just blanket statements of I AM. What unifies them is the element of the unknown.

To quote Yama, speaking to Tak of the Archives:

>"Then the one called Raltariki is really a demon?" asked Tak.

>"Yes—and no," said Yama, "If by 'demon' you mean a malefic, supernatural creature, possessed of great powers, life span and the ability to temporarily assume virtually any shape—then the answer is no. This is the generally accepted definition, but it is untrue in one respect."

>"Oh? And what may that be?"

>"It is not a supernatural creature."

>"But it is all those other things?"

>"Yes."

>"Then I fail to see what difference it makes whether it be supernatural or not—so long as it is malefic, possesses great powers and life span and has the ability to change its shape at will."

>"Ah, but it makes a great deal of difference, you see. It is the difference between the unknown and the unknowable, between science and fantasy—it is a matter of essence. The four points of the compass be logic, knowledge, wisdom and the unknown. Some do bow in that final direction. Others advance upon it. To bow before the one is to lose sight of the three. I may submit to the unknown, but never to the unknowable. The man who bows in that final direction is either a saint or a fool. I have no use for either."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:48:57 No.43346914 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346964 >>43346997

Roboanon, the Supreme Commander jump has the "T3 Engineers" perk start as follows:
>Your ACU is now capable of constructing the most advanced Engineer Units short of SCU and ACUs.

In the game, ACUs (and SCUs and Engineers) can only build structures (which in turn only produce vehicles, etc - a fairly obvious game mechanic) and experimentals (which as vehicles breaks the "rule"). Is this a deliberate change (perhaps so that there's a reason to buy the perk as otherwise you'd need to buy the more expensive T3 factories perk to be able to produce T3 engineers)? The real advantage of factories is that they can build things considerably (4x) faster than an engineer of equal Tech level.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:49:16 No.43346915 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>martial plebs

GOOD LUCK, I'M BEHIND SEVEN SPELL LISTS

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:52:50 No.43346938 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43346945

Can you use Real Eater to change your own powers or only other people's powers?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:54:18 No.43346945 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43346938
Both.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:58:10 No.43346964 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43346914
Sorry, "perhaps so" should be "perhaps also so".

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:02:46 No.43346997 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347122

>>43346914
Read the Tech Tree Drawback and you will find
"normally your ACU can build units itself without a factory, just at a much slower rate."

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:03:02 No.43347003 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347022 >>43347693

Question about gravity falls jump, how close in power level to Bill Cypher does dream demon make you? it clearly lets you replicate some of his earlier feats but Could you kill time baby in one shot with it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:06:26 No.43347022 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347044

>>43347003

Because that seems completely reasonable to assume, sure.

I'm like 90% sure the answer is no.

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:09:35 No.43347044 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347099

>>43347022
I'm not Assuming you can,My run so far more of been much different had I done so. I'm asking how much

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:18:55 No.43347099 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347158

>>43347044
>more different

Since I can't imagine you thinking up a good idea, I can only imagine your new Jumper is instead a dorkly schoolgirl who loves being told what to do and is also bald.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:21:44 No.43347122 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347212

>>43346997
Okay, that lends itself to the deliberate change theory (as in the game both structures and vehicles - really, anything that anything can build except ammo - count as units).

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:27:43 No.43347158 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347276

>>43347099
That sounds hilarious and adorable! but you forgot slutty, she would be slutty. But I was thinking more along the lines of his "time is dead and meaning has no meaning" Shtick

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:36:24 No.43347212 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347271

>>43347122
Maybe it's a lore thing?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:47:18 No.43347271 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347334 >>43347356 >>43347439

>>43347212
An ACU can build Experimentals, the most pieces of technology their factions have to offer, but are unable to build the basic infantry without a Factory? That had to be purely game mechanics. It would make significantly more sense to allow the ACU to build any vehicle the pilot desires, but at a much slower rate than a factory could.

Also, the writing implies that RoboAnon is using 'Units' to mean tanks, ships, and infantry drones.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:48:25 No.43347276 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347370

>>43347158
Please stop posting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:56:31 No.43347334 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347439

>>43347271
That makes a lot of sense, and, as someone who'd wondered about that same thing before, I agree with this interpretation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:59:37 No.43347356 Report Delete

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>>43347271
most advanced pieces*

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

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banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:01:47 No.43347370 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347386 >>43347728

>>43347276
I found a picture.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:03:12 No.43347386 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347370
Not loving authority enough. Also we all wish you'd go away forever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:09:37 No.43347439 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347271
>>43347334
It also otherwise remains true to the game, as the ACU's build rate (before any upgrades) is only half that of a T1 factory.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:09:50 No.43347442 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347459 >>43347531

>>43346159
>>43346876
I've played. Basically, it works off of Spell Skill - an attribute you get by dedicating all that magical power you're accumulating to raising it. Spell Skill represents how much mana you can pour into a spell per combat or turn - so if your spell skill is 50, any spell under 50 is an instant cast. Over 50, or want to cast two 50-point spells? Now you have to pump in 50 per turn.

Big overland spells can cost hundreds or more than a thousand mana, and the Spell of Mastery is 3,000. So if you want to cast one of those, expect to spend a long time - and if you're facing a Sorceror, you may expect disruption as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:11:59 No.43347459 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347563

>>43347442
Can you cast more than one spell per turn if you've got the mana?
Conversely, can you work towards more than one spell at a time if you don't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:21:37 No.43347531 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347442
Thanks. That makes a fair bit of sense. Do you remember if there is a limit of the top of your head, and if so what it is?

I see the Archmage skill increases the rate at which you grow. Guess that's on my list of things to buy then as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:25:21 No.43347563 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347459
You can cast multiple spells if you have enough mana and skill. E.g., if you have 50 skill, you can cast two 25-mana spells, five 10-point spells, or ten 5-point spells. However, you can only work towards one spell at a time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:35:27 No.43347630 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347643 >>43347697

What's the best way to move entire space ships from one dimension to another?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:37:00 No.43347643 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347759

>>43347630
buy the Starcutter in Kirby and reverse engineer it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:39:07 No.43347653 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347888 >>43347922 >>43347934 >>43347947

The items and perks have been added to the unnamed Gauntlet featuring an underwater research installation. They were all really good ideas! If anyone has suggestions for drawbacks in a similar fashion, please let me know.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:42:30 No.43347673 Report Delete

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>>43346816
Well most spears can.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:46:10 No.43347693 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347737

>>43347003
The thing is that Dream Demon makes you a beast in the dream world (mind scape), but has absolutely no effect on your real world abilities, unlike Bill's power, which is real and does affect the real world.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:47:14 No.43347697 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347759

>>43347630
MGLN has the tech for it, seeing as the Dimensional Navy is a thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:51:26 No.43347728 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347370
Is that girl wearing a bald cap?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:52:46 No.43347737 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347813 >>43347826

>>43347693
But bills powers get a massive boost when he comes to the real world, and as a dream he can control people in a way similar to possession.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:55:33 No.43347759 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347790

>>43347697
Seems good, thanks.

>>43347643
That seems to just be between it's pocket dimension and the reality you started in. Thanks anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:59:52 No.43347790 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347815

>>43347759
Worm has the Dimensional Breach Controller.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:03:42 No.43347813 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347824

>>43347737

But what he's trying to say is that you aren't getting Bill's power, you're getting a perk based on his powers. Similar, but not the same, and the perk is far more limited due to Bill being a cosmic horror of incredible power and all that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:03:49 No.43347815 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348139

>>43347790
Oh yeah. Could that make portals big enough to fit ships through?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:04:40 No.43347824 Report Delete

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>>43347813
Sure that makes sense.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:04:54 No.43347826 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347885 >>43347903

>>43347737
Bill isn't a dream creature. He's real, and his power was always that strong, but he was trapped in another dimension entirely.

Everything before the season finale was him projecting himself and a fraction of his power into our world while being trapped in his home dimension.

Then the breach happened, and he moved from his dimension into ours.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:12:44 No.43347885 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347916 >>43347998

>>43347826
As a dnd wizard/sorcerer who has been training nonstop and adding to my magic for roughly 20 jumps now what are my odds of blocking/sealing bill?

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:13:56 No.43347888 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347903 >>43347916

>>43347653
You don't need to,At the beginning of the jump he's already sealed you just have to keep the spatial rift safe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:15:04 No.43347903 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347888
You replied to the wrong person. You meant >>43347826.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:16:36 No.43347916 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347888
You replied to the wrong person. You meant >>43347885 .

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:17:06 No.43347922 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348065 >>43348958

>>43347653
damnit, lost my list.

Body Dysmorphic Disorder - Something about your real body doesn't mesh with your idea of what you look and move like, and this is a constant source of anxiety and distraction.
For example, if your current body could go underwater where yours couldn't, you will constantly freak out that you seem to be breathing when you plainly can't.

Resolution Errors - Your brain can't be scanned without errors. These errors might range from always rejecting a VR world as a fake, to ALWAYS SCREAMING, ALL THE TIME.

Sensory Deprivation - Pick one: 1. Taste & Smell, 2. Touch, 3. Hearing. Your body doesn't have this sense.

Monster Magnet (self explaining), Monster Multiplier (ditto).

CRT Display - the "Static" from monsters is so bad that you pretty much can't see or hear when they're nearby.

Beta Release - pretty much anything with software goes on the fritz with you nearby.

Virtual Sentience Attachment - You can't *not* treat a virtual mind the same as a flesh-and-blood one. You could never do anything to a virtual mind - wiping its memories, torturing it, deleting it - that you couldn't do to a real person. This would go badly with Resolution Errors (above) since it means you have to treat your mentally damaged virtual double like they were a real, living mentally disabled person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:17:50 No.43347928 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43345632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ofPsyA45b1Q
Because I'm not alone anymore.

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:18:51 No.43347934 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43347949 >>43348058 >>43348323

>>43347653
This makes me want to pay sealab 2021 jump and now I have to go make a sealab 2021 Jump

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:19:59 No.43347947 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348065

>>43347653
Congrats you were a research subject, enjoy traumatic flashbacks and being blacklisted by the AIs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:20:22 No.43347949 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347934
Frankly I'd rather you leave it to someone else given your track record.

Literally anyone else.

Anyone?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:25:39 No.43347998 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347885
I would wait until part 2 of the finale comes out before trying to figure that out.
I will say that it would be much easier to pre-emptively stop him getting into the dimension than to punch him out of it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:31:08 No.43348058 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347934
>Tera making jumps

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:31:33 No.43348065 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348075

>>43347922
The first one is horrifying. I already have a form of it with two levels depending on how tormented you want to be.

That's scary. If you ever needed to use a brainscan of yourself for something, it would be torture. This is already sort of in there. Your brainscan is used as a base template for AI, and when monsters see you they freak out in desperation and rage. Then they try to kill you like a startled Witch.

It's being added.

Monster multiplier is already part of the Jump, because some parts of the facility will be much bigger and need more monsters to cover them. Monster Magnet is being added. People will need to think about self defense rather than only hiding.

I already have a form of this perk! It alternates between static and the EMP effect a few monsters have.

That would almost be too serious. Everything is AI and software of some kind, possibly the Jumper themselves. Unless it caused glitches instead of complete malfunction. Stay away from the ARK with it.

I'm adding it.

>>43347947
There are lots of drawbacks themed like that. If you take all of them it's what you described.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:33:03 No.43348075 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348958

>>43348065
Not Perk, Drawback. I like all of those suggestions!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:41:53 No.43348139 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348435

>>43347815
Hey, Worm_Anon, if you see this; how big a portal can the dimensional breach controller make, and if it's not big enough for space ships could it be upgraded by some of the tinker powers, for example?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:07:30 No.43348322 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348380

Why. Why does the CIV jump have to have such a low cap on drawbacks? Holy fuck, that jump is hard to build for.

Does anyone know if there's an update in talks that would include a raised drawback limit?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:07:33 No.43348323 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43347934
If you do, treat it like a law school paper, and try not to have a clear favorite background for once.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:13:03 No.43348380 Report Delete

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>>43348322
There's not. It's been a finished jump for months so there's really no need for one.

Clover

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Clover Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:18:13 No.43348428 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348475 >>43348477 >>43348508 >>43348680 >>43348763 >>43349091 >>43360608

internet breaking
must sleep
changelog follows

perks, new ones
pieces, cheaper
drawbacks, new ones

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:18:42 No.43348435 Report Delete

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>>43348139
Actually looking at the jump the Doormaker power seems to be able to make bigger doors with more focus and/or time, so I'm going to assume putting more power into the machine or just letting it run for longer (or both) would let me eventually transport space ships between dimensions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:23:14 No.43348475 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348507

>>43348428
Something I keep forgetting to ask (and I'll get to important questions later) does Iconic Item actually do anything? This'd probably be the time to make it be an identifying symbol or acceptable piece of I.D.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:23:23 No.43348477 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348507

>>43348428
The drop in capstone perks need serious rebalancing. They're both far beyond what the other origins get for their capstones, especially templars, in addition to both drop in capstones being incredibly OP as is, especially compared to the rest of the jump.

Clover

Clover Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:25:46 No.43348507 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348515

>>43348475
yes. will make clear
>>43348477
noted. will balance oit after writers block over. no idea what i was doing

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:26:12 No.43348508 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348515

>>43348428
To be honest, literally putting in soft cap seems to be more then a tad out of place. The other perk, the one that lets you limit infinite opponents, just seems insane.

As a side note, does anyone else hate it when jump makers just drop a jump and then leave straight away? Always seemed like the worst thing to do, especially when updating an old jump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:27:13 No.43348515 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43348508
>Sees >>43348507
Well, isn't that some egg on my face.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:27:42 No.43348519 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348694

>>43346159
>Acheld

We know that a wizard can cast spells very quickly in the midst of combat; a single spell can be cast in the time it takes two groups of soldiers to exchange a few blows. So, maybe 5-10 seconds ish for those combat spells?

The fact that many spells take months should be interpreted, I think, not as you sitting there casting for months non-stop. Rather, that you have a limited amount of mana you can channel in a given time period. I always imagined the spell of mastery as being you're casting for a bit each day, but then you have to take a break for most of the day.

Casting skill, as already said, can be increased over time (and grows faster with Archmage). Increased skill allows you to cast more in a "turn", which would not effect the *speed* at which you cast spells in combat, but would make spells that might take days take far less time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:48:13 No.43348680 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348763

>>43348428
I'm super exited for this.

Do you need to buy contacts 4 times, or does the second purchase get you the other three? Might want to look at the wording of the last sentence either way.

Are pieces of eden one per Jump(er)? Can companions buy their own pieces? I know some use that as a way to get extra things for themselves but I actually like to equip my companions with good things, helps keep them competitive.
...Ok just read the notes. Guess I have to pick one and hope I can make 'normal' level ones with the sage perks.

Crystal Skull, nice, it would mean I don't have to make my own Observatory that's somehow connected to the warehouse...
Ooh, the Apple can do What If's! Yay I sorta helped by asking, maybe, unless you'd already planned that. Whatever.
Amulet! I think I really did help. Looks good.

The Templar outfit stuff looks alright.

The dart's and poisons on the hidden blade? Hell yes! I wanted these so much and now they're here. Thank you!

Ooh, Explosives Kit, that'd come in handy.

The up to 600 instead of 2 drawbacks change is nice, but is there a reason why Easily Tempted and Turncoat got combined into CBSD?

So I understand it right, the new 600 means you have to use the groups to hunt down your powers, which are now in pieces of eden, and then kill a precursor in their own vault?

Some good stuff in this update. Nice work.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:50:05 No.43348694 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348747

>>43348519
Good to know. Is there a limit on how much you can level your casting skill? Could you eventually get good enough to cast the longer spells in one go, provided you have the mana of course. It does look like it gets harder to improve the better you are, so I'd assume that you wouldn't reach that point for a very long time, I just want to know if it's possible.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:55:39 No.43348747 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348773

>>43348694
>8
It's theoretically possible. I once tried to draw out a game to the point where I could cast every spell in one turn. Managed it for everything but Spell of Mastery after about 1000 years, as I recall.

I'm currently working on an Appendix which will go into more detail about the working of casting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:58:07 No.43348763 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348864

>>43348428
>>43348680
Oh, forgot to ask: What does Zealotry do for drop-in's, and you might want to change the word 'abilities' to 'skills' in Legacy Lived, so that people like me don't think you can use it to graft biological traits with a blood infusion.

Also realised I forgot to mention the other two new pieces, the mirror is interesting and the staff is cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:59:39 No.43348773 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348909

>>43348747
That's a lot more impressive than what I was thinking, but it certainly answers my question; given time I can cast the bigger spells in a few seconds, mana permitting of course. Casting all in one turn is... well, looking at some of the costs that's a lot of mana.

Again, thanks for answering so many of my questions.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:09:52 No.43348864 Report Delete

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>>43348763
*scepter, not staff... guh, I need to sleep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:13:01 No.43348895 Report Delete

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Questions for whoever made SCP jump:

Is there a rough guide to what Euclid/Safe SCPs you can't perfectly replicate with Sufficiently Advanced? I'd assumed the omnipotent debaters and the nigh-omniscient summonablew butler would be such examples.

It sounds like if you take Anartist you can fluff a gimmick for your main SCP creation process like Wondertainment's toys and AWCY dadaist art. Is this correct?

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:14:46 No.43348909 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43348940

>>43348773
I'm re-interpreting this whole thing a bit, so bear with me until I get the version with the new appendix up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:18:38 No.43348940 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349074

>>43348909
Righto then. As long as I can throw lots of mana at a problem to attack it with dragons with very little warning I'm happy.

As you can guess from my other questions I'm quite interested in other spells to, but the summons are really nifty.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:20:59 No.43348958 Report Delete

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>>43348075
>>43347922
sameanon here.
On further thought, the Hearing sensory deprivation option should probably be worth double the others, since situational awareness is probably going to be really really handy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:25:35 No.43349002 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349074

Is it possible to eventually learn higher tier spells from master of magic without taking all the links? Like, can I take a single life link and spend a few centuries mastering life magic to eventually manage to cast holy arms?

acheld

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acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:33:13 No.43349074 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349138 >>43349154 >>43349536

>>43348940
Version 1.10 WIP attached; has a bunch more detail on the casting system in an appendix. Let me know if things remain unclear after reading that.

>>43349002
Certainly not without an outside ability that would do something like that. The links determine the maximum power of that kind of spell you can handle, for one thing. 4 ranks is the minimum needed to be able to handle the most powerful spells at all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:35:23 No.43349091 Report Delete

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>>43348428
Could you not change it to 50 CP for location/era rolls?

Doesn't make much difference admittedly but I always resent paying to go to a part of a setting I'm actually familiar with if there's no opportunity to travel from one to another.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:39:50 No.43349138 Report Delete

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>>43349074
If I'm in gravity falls and I take the one let's make a deal drawback how can I let someone access my warehouse? So that I can have things from the universe.. I have plenty of ways to move between dimensions so I was thinking of just opening a portal and having the person I make a deal with shove it through.

I understand that is a drawback and it's supposed to be hard to work around but I'm just trying to figure out how I can actually help the people with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:41:12 No.43349151 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349386

If I'm in gravity falls and I take the one let's make a deal drawback how can I let someone access my warehouse? So that I can have things from the universe.. I have plenty of ways to move between dimensions so I was thinking of just opening a portal and having the person I make a deal with shove it through.

I understand that is a drawback and it's supposed to be hard to work around but I'm just trying to figure out how I can actually help the people with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:41:33 No.43349154 Report Delete

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>>43349074
Looks good. I'll have to see which spells are combat and which aren't to see what I can use on the fly, but this makes a lot of sense. Thanks very much!

Cool cats don't trip

Cool cats don't trip Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:50:43 No.43349263 Report Delete

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>>43346827
I accidentally ended up with a spear.

Guess that's what happens when you keep combining sticks with one another then start combining them with swords. It's got at least one mjolnir in it. Had to combine it with a load of regular spears just to make the balance not entirely fucked up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:01:10 No.43349386 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349552

>>43349151
You could still possess a puppet but thats about as physical as you can get I believe. So opening a warehouse portal might be doable, you just cat move anything without help.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:14:40 No.43349536 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349574 >>43349612 >>43349700

>>43349074
So, if I cast Planar Seal in Worm, would that disconnect all shards?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:15:27 No.43349552 Report Delete

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>>43349386
Sounds good then

Gravity falls
Jornal pages 1300
Romance academy 1600
Lets make a deal 1900
Journal entry 1700
Mystery shack
Awesome opening sequence free
Fixin it with jumper 1600
High tech hootenany 1000
(400 journal entry points)
Purely cosmetic change man shaped hole in space showing stars and galaxies (just cosmetically) in a suit.
Minor ability fingers are sharp pointed claws free
Dream demon (100 JE points)
Shapechanger 800
Hidebehind 700
Journalist 100
Manly 0

So I guess Im a sorta NOTbill at this point and giffany is in love with me, thats bad but I can handle it. Just have to use my dream demon abilities a lot more. Maybe I can get giffany to help me? Nah she would probably stab mable.

Might be worth a shot though, give her a plastic medabot body to inhabit, you know what they say: if jumpchan gives you lemons you turn them into yandere robots.

acheld

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acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:17:36 No.43349574 Report Delete

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>>43349536
... very possibly. It's certainly a reasonable interpretation, though I'm sure others will say "planes aren't the same thing as dimensions!". And, honestly, I am very far from being an expert on Worm.

Last version for a while (cause I have to go do things), WIP 1.11. A few more minor clarifications in the spell workings section, and some textual clarifications throughout.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:20:49 No.43349612 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349700

>>43349536
Now that I think a bit more, it ought to be a problem for Cauldron.

Their base is in another dimension.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:29:07 No.43349700 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349971 >>43351388

>>43349612
>>43349536
Just to check-you guys do realise there are far, FAR worse things in Marvel and DC than Worm right?

Darkseid, Thanos the Mad Titan, Nekron, Ultron and the Anti-Monitor anyone?

I'd mention Doom with prep time but for some reason everyone seems pretty cool with Doom. Not that them, at least he's not Richards.

KOTOR Anon

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KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:43:30 No.43349876 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349929 >>43350126 >>43350204 >>43350685

Made a little bit more progress on the SW:OT jump. I'm thinking about removing the age roll and just having you start at 14, since otherwise you could roll an age that would make your character here alive at the same time you were going through the Clone Wars jump.

I'd also lie some feedback on the Droid background and perk tree.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:48:44 No.43349929 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43349973 >>43349978

>>43349876
Amusing as it might be to have some sort of +0CP drawback where you run into yourself FROM THE PAST, good point.

Erm. There's...not really much for me to say? I can't critique the absence of words, but for what it's worth those chassis options look pretty solid.

Though-is the implication that only Droids can take Droid perks? Are all Droid perks discounted for Droids?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:53:01 No.43349971 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350062

>>43349700
Same person both times, and yeah, I know it.

Just, Worm is a classic “EVERYTHING IS DOOMED” world, so it seemed like a funny trick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:53:15 No.43349973 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350062

>>43349929
Make it a +400 one where your past self is an enemy.

KOTOR Anon

KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:53:21 No.43349978 Report Delete

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>>43349929
Only droids can pick droid perks, but droids cannot pick perks from any other perk tree.

Everything is discounted by default, that's the reason why the modules are 100, 200 & 300 instead of 200, 400 & 600.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:59:24 No.43350062 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350208

>>43349971
Fair enough.

I suppose more than anything, I'd expected those guys to get way, way more attention from the murderhobo crowd than some gormless chump who can't even take one blast of cosmic energy to the (avatar's) face.

>>43349973
Eh, on a second thought it's kinda silly and out of context. Though any one character in the SW franchise turning out to be your long lost father might make for a great +0CP drawback

>>43349978
Oh, okay then. Ouch, that's a tad restrictive but droids will be droids I guess.

Doesn't sound like the thing for me, but I suppose that works.

Worm_Anon

Worm_Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:03:01 No.43350107 Report Delete

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>>443348139
Depends on the ship. I'd say the upper size limit would be about the same as the brockton bay portal.

Granted its left vague for a reason and it is a piece of technology that you can examine and learn from. Study it and build dimensional breach systems into your ship. You've probably worked with much more difficult science by this point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:04:12 No.43350126 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350325

>>43349876
I'd go with 2d8+10 for age rather than +20, and if there's an option to continue in the same universe if you've done the Clone Wars jump then your age starts at whatever you finished that jump with?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:10:10 No.43350204 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350509 >>43352565

>>43349876
Idea for the 600 Drop-in bonus:
Force = Mass x Acceleration only: The Force is NOT strong with you, at all. In fact, you have less connection to the Force than a ysalimari breeding farm. Downside: You can't ever use the Force. Good side: You're not only immune to Vader's choking and Palpatine's lightning, you're also able to avoid the patterns the Force follows, enabling you to avoid detection or indirect manipulation by Force abilities, and more pragmatically, the Force side of lightsaber combat skills - so Vader will have a harder time hitting you. However, should he connect, the lightsaber still has its usual effects on your corprus.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:10:26 No.43350208 Report Delete

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>>43350062
Honestly, I’m surprised you didn’t just say Galactus.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:13:07 No.43350256 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350335

>>43350208
Mostly because I forgot Galactus only goes beyond planetmuncher level when he's well-fed enough to become Super Saiyan Galactus 3 or whatever it is the writers did to keep him relevant.

KOTOR Anon

KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:19:18 No.43350325 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350669

>>43350126
The 2d8+10 age roll sounds good. For the continuity import however, I think it'll be to where your age is automatically set to 14 if you picked a background with memories, but anyone who picked drop-In will have the option of either keeping their rolled age or starting at the age their supposed to be after leaving Clone Wars. (I.E, if you were 20 at the end of the Clone Wars jump you'd be 34 at the beginning of Original Trilogy.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:19:49 No.43350335 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350509 >>43350545

>>43350256
That’s it!

Pod Galactus and take him to Worm, he’ll solve everything in minutes.

KOTOR Anon

KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:32:24 No.43350509 Report Delete

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>>43350335
Do you really want to risk him gaining the power to travel between universes? Because all he'd have to do is take two of Scion's species and make them his heralds.

Galactus gets to eat his favorite planets again and again, then once he's done they leave and destroy the entire universe.

>>43350204
There's already a perk like that in Clone Wars but I'll think about it.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:35:23 No.43350545 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43351603 >>43353392

>>43350335
Erm.

Well.

If by "solve" you mean "eat everything" which I suppose is a conclusion a Jumper might find acceptable, then yay?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:40:17 No.43350615 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350871

>watching Akagi

Damn, this fucker's got skills. Wish I'd podded him before heading to NGNL, he could easily solo Blank.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:43:52 No.43350669 Report Delete

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>>43350325
That sounds great (and yes, sorry, I forgot there was a gap between CW's end and OT's start).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:44:35 No.43350685 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350728

>>43349876
>5 years before battle of Yavin
Huh. Any chance of a time extension for those of us that want to have fun with the Dark Forces/Xwing/tie fighter games?
Not to mention all the EU stuff.

KOTOR Anon

KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:47:56 No.43350728 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43350766 >>43350789 >>43350889 >>43354452

>>43350685
I was thinking about it, but the EU is really fucked chronologically at this point and a lot of stuff in that era could be used for even more Star Wars jumps if anyone else ever wanted to make them. So no, unfortunately.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:50:25 No.43350766 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352978

>>43350728
Eu is no longer canon anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:51:35 No.43350789 Report Delete

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>>43350728
The problem with that is a lot of the Dark Force games take place during the originally trilogy.

Damn. And here I was hoping to just skip out on the movies and bro it up with Kyle Katarn.

Annette

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Annette Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:56:31 No.43350871 Report Delete

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>>43350615
>Got at least one person to watch Akagi
Success!

And yes, he is pretty good. After finishing the anime, do read the manga. It gets even more ridiculous.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:57:31 No.43350889 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43351170

>>43350728
Come on man I want a lightwhip!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:14:49 No.43351170 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43351235 >>43351626

>>43350889
>One of the earliest known wielders of the lightwhip was the Sith Lady Githany, who was active approximately a millennium before the Battle of Yavin.
>Lightwhip wielders active prior to and during the Clone Wars include Ona Nobis and Vianna D'Pow.
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Lightwhip
Don't think you need an extension to pull that off. They've been around for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:18:31 No.43351235 Report Delete

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>>43351170
So set any "Ooh, I'm a Jedi/Sith now!" perks to include a lightweapon(lightsaber, lightwhip, lightstaff, light10footpole) by default, rather than designating a lightsaber.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:27:46 No.43351388 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43351711

>>43349700
They have heroes who can fight on the same level, though. Worm starts with nothing that can possibly fight the threats it faces, and ends with the vast majority of humanity across all worlds dead, a bunch of dormant Endbringers who may or may not get up and start destroying everything, and a cosmos filled with multiple members of the omnipredatory species that destroyed most of Earth, which will not have the same weaknesses or make the same mistakes that let them kill the two members of said species they encountered.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:40:38 No.43351603 Report Delete

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>>43350545
>my thought processes in a nutshell

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:41:46 No.43351626 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352312 >>43352891

>>43350871
Eh, I'm only up to episode 9 at the moment but yeah-it's more than apparent he could've taken over Disboard if he'd only had the opporunity. Jesus, I've heard the finale is insane but I just don't know how they'll top him scamming the Yakuza's top mahjong player apart from the blood thing.

Though at the moment the marathon's been stalled by other business, and I'm wondering if I should FINALLY look at Attack on Titan beyond the (sadly) aborted TFS abridged series.

>>43351170
Yet another reason to jump No More Heroes, which takes the inherent absurdity of lightsabers, takes it to its logical conclusion and rebrands them as Beam Katanas.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:47:03 No.43351711 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352431

>>43351388
Of the ones I mentioned I know at least the Anti-Moniter and Nekron have no real match among the regular roster of heroes, only among their cosmic antitheses. And Thanos with his Hand was essentially only defeated once because of his own insecurities. Like Scion, in fact.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:26:05 No.43352312 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352537

>>43351626
No. Don't look at Attack on Titan. It gets kinda boring and the darkness is meaningless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:33:00 No.43352431 Report Delete

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>>43351711
The mere fact that Anti-Monitor and Nekron HAVE counterparts makes it infinitely brighter than the Wormverse. There's no counterpart to the Entities except other Entities, and they've all made friends so they can devour the universe together.

As for Thanos - yes, when he got his artifact of ultimate cosmic power, he had to be defeated cleverly. This can be avoided by not letting him get his artifact of ultimate cosmic power. Zion, meanwhile, had to be cleverly defeated when he was was badly weakened twice - first by the fact that he'd already sent out all his shards, and second by the fact that he was meant to partner up with Eden, who was the smart one. The Parahumans couldn't possibly win against a fully-fledged Entity, let alone a pair.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:37:30 No.43352537 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352618 >>43352652 >>43352655 >>43352664 >>43352764

>>43352312
Geez, is it really that bad? I mean, I managed to stomach the nationalism in GATE, the plot going nowhere for a bit in Overlord, the loony tunes nonsense in KLK, the godmode NEETs of NGNL, the filler of NGE and the...questionable writing decisions in Rebuild of Eva. All three of them. All of which had their good moments, eventually.

I even managed to sit through Mahouka.

Are you telling me that compared to all that, Titan is still an unbearable slog of awfulness? Surely it can't be worse than Mahouka.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:38:55 No.43352565 Report Delete

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>>43350204
>Force = Mass x Acceleration only

>It doesn't make your connection to the Force stronger the fatter you are and the faster you're going

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:41:21 No.43352618 Report Delete

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>>43352537
Eh, not that bad. Music's good and the animation for the battles is fantastic. It's just that the writing gets bland and the darkness is false; main characters will live while background characters will die. The plot also sets itself up as a 'humans vs monsters' story into a 'government secrets and awful truths' story.

Mostly, it's just kinda disappointing.

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:42:41 No.43352632 Report Delete

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>>43345632
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qsA0B535fXs

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:43:49 No.43352651 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352885 >>43352891 >>43353749 >>43353788

>>43349574
Anyone making builds for this? I'm curious as to what my fellow wizards are going for.

Also curious whether anyone went for Node Mastery. Seems like a bad choice, since Rainbow has never seemed terribly attractive.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:43:54 No.43352652 Report Delete

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>>43352537
Eh, not that bad. Music's good and the animation for the battles is fantastic. It's just that the writing gets bland and the darkness is false; main characters will live while background characters will die. The plot also sets itself up as a 'humans vs monsters' story and turns into a 'government secrets and awful truths' story.

Mostly, it's just kinda disappointing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:44:03 No.43352655 Report Delete

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>>43352537
>managed to stomach the nationalism in GATE
But how did you survive the absolutely terrible harem parts?
Fuck, I have never seen an entertaining premise more thoroughly destroyed and left to rot than GATE so it can go wank to itself.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:44:28 No.43352664 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352688 >>43352792

>>43352537
It's okay. If you're watching the anime, it only lasts about twelve episodes, and they don't accomplish a whole lot besides "Here the premise, here's the main character, here's his power, and here's the first antagonist." The anime ends after the first antagonist's defeat. You don't really learn or do much past that.
There's a bunch of back and forth about whether the main character can be trusted due to his powers, and hopelessness, and some corruption sprinkled in for shits and giggles. There's not a lot past that, and they never get around to formulating a plan for dealing with all the problems other than "Erin's the hero. Let's all scream a lot."

I'd say watch it, but if you have some way to speed up the playback a little bit that'd also be good.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:45:59 No.43352688 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43352749 >>43352757 >>43352771

>>43352664
Wasn't it 26 episodes?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:49:08 No.43352749 Report Delete

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>>43352688
> 26 episodes.
Yeah, I just looked it up, and I'm wrong.
I guess it goes to show how little actually happens, though, if I thought you could cram the whole thing into 12 episodes, though.

There's just... really not a whole lot that happens.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:49:45 No.43352757 Report Delete

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>>43352688
divided into two seasons, part ii starts january

also popcorn captcha

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:50:08 No.43352764 Report Delete

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>>43352537
Screw attack on titan, go watch Jojo's. You'll either absolutly love it or hate it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:50:25 No.43352771 Report Delete

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>>43352688
Clearly she had a way to speed up the playback.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:51:46 No.43352792 Report Delete

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>>43352664
I guess you can just watch everything on x2 speed. Turn 26 episodes into 13.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:56:59 No.43352885 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43353900

>>43352651
He won't stop changing it, so no. Not until it's done.

Annette

Annette Thu 29 Oct 2015 14:57:19 No.43352891 Report Delete

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>>43351626
It gets... Better. That's all.

>>43352651
I honestly feel the need to hold off until all the drastic changes are done. Because you have to admit, every version is quite different. Good thing, yes, but makes it a folly to make builds as compared to poking holes and asking questions. Everything except for Death and Chaos looks delightful, though.

Node Mastery requires me to put points into Chaos, which is a big NOPE from me. And I have a feeling I'll be relying on worship much more, especially what with nodes requiring a year to set up. More research and thought on the subject is required.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:00:57 No.43352978 Report Delete

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>>43350766
Just say it takes place in the Legacy universe. We already have KOTOR.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:23:09 No.43353392 Report Delete

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>>43350545
>If by "solve" you mean "eat everything" which I suppose is a conclusion a Jumper might find acceptable,
I'm pretty sure any Jumper that liked that conclusion could just do it themselves.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:41:20 No.43353749 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43353900

>>43352651
Mine is based on an old pdf, I need to see if it requires updating. It was Jump 143 on my chain, beginning 13,382 years in

took "A Worthy Challenge" and "Is it Crowded in here" for 300 extra points.

Rolled High Elves and High Men. Was confused why I was rolling two, thought I got to keep both for awhile, decided to go with the elves.

Invested in the full nature tree, Walk the Path, 5x Nature Link, Bounty of Nature, Nature Mastery, Conjurer and my remaining points bought me "A Righteous Ruler" to stack with my other yours by right/blood of kings perks.

Rolled 1d1000 to determine how long it took me to complete my conquest, took 196 years to impose my will upon all reaches of this jump.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:43:36 No.43353788 Report Delete

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>>43352651
Here's two builds I have done.

1. "Diplomat". Background: Life. Halflings.
Perks: A Righteous Ruler, 5x Life Link, Make Love, Not War, Divine Power, Charismatic & Famous, Archmage, Alchemy.
Drawbacks: Gaming Classic, How Do You Work This Thing? Uh, Where is the "On" Button?, Is It Crowded In Here?

Gets nothing out of nodes, but is excellent at getting mana from worship and alchemy. Uses nodes as bargaining chips once captured. Builds alliance among good, or at least not-evil wizards. Trades enchantments with them, etc.

2. "Creature Master". Background: Nature. High Elves.
Perks: Walk the Path, 5x Nature Link, Bounty of Nature, Nature Mastery, Conjurer, Archmage, 1x Chaos Link.
Drawbacks: Gaming Classic, You're a Shifty..., Let's Get Him/Her!
I picture just waves of fantastical nature creatures; both Nature Mastery and Conjurer reduce their cost. This is going to terrify other wizards, which in-story justifies the cause of the drawbacks. The Chaos Link will let me start with Hell Hounds, which are a fantastic early game summon, benefiting from "Conjurer", and due to "Walk the Path" will move rapidly over the map.
As for Node Mastery, it is probably only worth it for builds that are Dual Link with two of the three necessary links. Dipping one link in the third, then grabbing node mastery, may be worth it for the *enormous* magical boost, depending on how many CP you are working with. If you've boosted up to 1600 or more, I think it definitely would be in that case.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:45:24 No.43353826 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43354261 >>43355350

>>43352891
Just to clarify, it takes a year to set up a node post-jump. In jump, they are already there.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:49:36 No.43353900 Report Delete

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>>43352885
>>43352891
>>43353749

Versions 1.9-1.11 have seen no changes in the perks or drawbacks, and are "final" as far as I'm concerned. The last few updates have just been about adding more information to appendices for those unfamiliar with the system. The river of input has run its course at this point.

I may continue to add information to appendices, or add more graphical flourishes, but the meat of it is finalized since 1.9.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 15:53:32 No.43353974 Report Delete

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>>43352891
Eh, Chaos magic isn't so bad. Don't get me wrong, its high-level spells are basically destroy the world for fun and profit, but it's not a bad dip if you need some direct damage.

Also, I wouldn't discount Death. If you have the personality for it, it's got a lot to offer.

Annette

Annette Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:09:34 No.43354261 Report Delete

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>>43353826
True, but that's exactly what I am talking about. If the scale of a conflict is bad enough for me to resort to these spells, there are surely enough people to provide for them.

And, I can always just turn to more convenient sources, like Gold-to-Mana or my Infinity Engine combo (all the energy generators+all the energy convertors= Infinite MP for all the magic ever) for all the mana I could ever want.

>>43353900
Thank you for everything. 'Tis a delight.

>>43353974
>Chaos magic
Eh, I am more of a 'corrupt and make mine' gal. Chaos just... Destroys. With nothing to give for it. Bleh. Always disliked 'poisoned earth' tactics.

>Death magic
Why make zombies, when you can truly revive and recruit? And darkness all the time everywhere is... Bland.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:18:30 No.43354452 Report Delete

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>>43350728
Any chance we could get a rancor cub?

Rancors are surprisingly cute as babies. Like hugeass koalas.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:19:35 No.43354475 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43354649 >>43354661

Also, never 4get

acheld

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acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:23:16 No.43354563 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43354661 >>43357015

Ok, this is version 1.12, no longer WIP!

Just some word use and clarification changes! Still no changes to the perks/drawbacks since 1.9. I thought people might be more comfortable if I removed "WIP" at this point.

I commit to making no more changes to the CP choices, barring textual error corrections. The only significant thing I *might* still add would be an appendix you could use to generate random neutral towns to see who your nearest neighbors were. Not sure if people would care about that, though, so it may not be worth the effort. In any case, that would be fully optional, so please don't hesitate further.

I look forward to seeing your builds :)

KOTOR Anon

KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:24:43 No.43354596 Report Delete

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>>43354452
Sure, why not. I'll even throw in a habitat for it attached to the warehouse.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:26:20 No.43354632 Report Delete

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>>43354596
Yay!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:26:59 No.43354649 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43354681

>>43354475
>This is actually completely canon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:27:35 No.43354661 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43354696

>>43354475
>>43354563
Out of curiosity, would you be interested in me making builds for the existing wizards in-game? I might not be able to do it immediately, but it should be a fun exercise.

Hand Kanons Enforcement INC. !!xfwL0v35tYr

Hand Kanons Enforcement INC. !!xfwL0v35tYr Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:28:37 No.43354681 Report Delete

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>>43354649
wait actually?

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:29:33 No.43354696 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355191

>>43354661
You mean rebuild the pregen enemies from the original game in this system?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:30:15 No.43354713 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355532

>>43354681
Pretty much, other than that the Rancor did die. Apparently taking the Rancor out for a walk in the desert is something the tamer outright did, and he cared for it a lot.

Mal

Mal Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:46:46 No.43355076 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355107

>>43345632
https://youtu.be/YlBnJ0egT_4

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:48:13 No.43355107 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355199

>>43355076
>not partying hard
Belkan please.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:52:36 No.43355191 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355342

>>43354696
Yeah, exactly. Merlin, Rjak, Tauron, the works. Probably would be more fun than random.

Mal

Mal Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:52:48 No.43355199 Report Delete

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>>43355107
That comes after.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:59:12 No.43355342 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356106

>>43355191
It's not clear that they would be significantly different than the suggested opponents, except that you will actually have CP left over if you just build them with their default abilities. What *might* be interesting would be to have a descriptive blurb detailing their personality and goals. I dunno.

If you are interested in doing that, why don't you make one wizard and then we'll see how it turns out. I wouldn't want you to spend a bunch of time doing them all and then I decide that I don't think they need to be added.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 16:59:43 No.43355350 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355410 >>43355483

>>43353826
Do similar places or power in settings other than Master of Magic count as pre-existing Nodes, or at least places that are easier to turn into Nodes?

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:02:14 No.43355410 Report Delete

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>>43355350
If it's already a place that power can be drawn from, I would think it would be very easy indeed to turn into a node using the Book of the Elements.

If it is a place that stores a lot of magical power, but power is not drawn from directly, then it would be a bit harder, but still easier than a random location of majesty.

Make sense?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:05:23 No.43355483 Report Delete

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>>43355350
>>43355410
I was thinking of using the nodes from age of ice megajump myself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:05:45 No.43355494 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355818

For the mob jumpchain, is there any reason I couldn't choose for it to be set in Neal Stephenson's Snow Crash, working for the mafia in that story?

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:07:37 No.43355532 Report Delete

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>>43354713
In KOTOR, they had Rancor mounts on last level.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:21:22 No.43355818 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355878

>>43355494
Yes: You're just supposed to be the regular kind of criminal. Not a weirdass cyberpunk kind of criminal. That's what Shadowrun is for.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:23:47 No.43355878 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43355975

>>43355818
the mafia there were pretty normal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:24:46 No.43355908 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360197

So if I used Experimental ACU, and Imported the Light of Terra what would happen?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:27:59 No.43355975 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356184

>>43355878
All I remember was a samurai hacker who could hack people with his sword in the matrix or something and a girl who traveled everywhere on rollerskates, I dunno.

Either way I'm pretty sure you can get that particular experience in Generic Virtual Jump.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:31:21 No.43356036 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Question for Stupid_Dog, in the Inuyasha jump, is the Sacred Arrow perk limited to just arrows, or can it be used with other ranged weapons and projectiles? Can it be used in melee? If no, would Adaptability from Wuxia let one use it like that?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:34:21 No.43356106 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356657

>>43355342
Well, going strictly by the in-game stuff won't work. 1200 CP and 11 books are very different.

Let's start with Sss'ra, then.

Normal
Background: Dual Link - Life and Chaos (1100)
Race: Draconians (Myrran) (1000)
Perks: Life Link 3 (700), Chaos Link 3 (400), Runic Aid (300), A Righteous Ruler (200), Right Amount of Kill (0)

Worthy
Background: Life (1600)
Race: Draconians (Myrran) (1500)
Perks: Life Link 4 (1100), Chaos Link 4 (300), A Righteous Ruler, Charismatic and Famous (0)

Sss'ra seeks to bring harmony to the races of Myrror. Rather than warring tribes, he dreams of a harmonious Imperium, where all five of the Myrran races work and trade together. Do not mistake him for a kind-hearted soul, though - he shares no similar love for Arcanus, and longs to lead his future Imperium to crush its soft people under his scaled foot. His reaction to opposing wizards will depend significantly on their home plane, although he is cunning and will disguise his hatred of an Arcanian wizard until an opportune moment presents itself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:37:49 No.43356184 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356291

>>43355975
Skateboard, not rollerskates.

I just like the way the mafia is a semi-legitimate organization with franchises all over, and one of the more respectable organizations to be involved with at that.

I've already got better hacking abilities than such a place would afford me, it's more about getting to meet some of the characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:43:28 No.43356291 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356342

>>43356184
Huh. Have you...considered making the jump for it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:46:25 No.43356335 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356827 >>43357071 >>43357156

About FR, how strong is Orcus? I've looked around for a bit, but didn't find any consistent stat sheet for him.

What about the Elder Evils?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:46:37 No.43356342 Report Delete

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>>43356291
I am now. (considering, that is) Not sure if I should make it specifically a snow crash jump, or a broader Stephenson jump. a bunch of his novels basically string together into one setting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 17:52:17 No.43356479 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356753

Yesterday I was wondering about duplicating SCP-2400. (the door to the featureless plain where time travels faster) Been thinking about it, and I can't decide how it would work.

If SCP-2400 Generates SCP-2400-A, then a duplicate SCP-2400 would generate a duplicate SCP-2400-A.

if SCP-2400 is just a gateway to SCP-2400-A, then a duplicate SCP-2400 would just lead you TO SCP-2400-A, same as the original.

I can think of uses for both scenarios, but I'm not sure what the proper interpretation should be.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:01:02 No.43356657 Report Delete

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>>43356106
I like the descriptive work, but honestly I think this version is far weaker than the opponents described in the jumpchain. Like, drop "Right Amount of Kill" to bring Life/Chaos to 4/4 for example.

I don't want players picking these wizards because they are easier, and I think it is okay if they are more powerful than their in-game counterparts. Honestly, this jump is a bit powered up from the game in terms of the number of abilities you could pick.

I'm not sure whether I'd want to add this section to be honest; let me think on it for a bit. Thank you, regardless.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:05:30 No.43356753 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43356862 >>43356914

>>43356479
There is no proper interpretation, really. SCPs collectively run on bullshit and Murphy's Law because they're deliberately written as ambiguous for the spookies.

I think the better question here is: How are you duplicating SCP 2400?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:09:11 No.43356827 Report Delete

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>>43356335
The Elder Evils are in the book Elder Evils, as far as Orcus goes he's a CR 28 in the Book of Vile Darkness and a CR22 in Fiendish Codex I. So pick an Orcus and go I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:10:50 No.43356862 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357362

>>43356753
Do you even have to ask at this point? There's only one way to perfectly duplicate anything, NEI Cheat Mode from Minecraft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:13:11 No.43356914 Report Delete

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>>43356753
shrinking it to the proper size, and then using minecraft cheat mode.

If I can create extra doors that access the same space, then I can use it as a transit hub back to the warehouse. If each door generates a subspace, then I can nest them and create dramatically accelerated time chambers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:18:43 No.43357015 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360408 >>43360676 >>43360861

>>43354563
Is this game worth a go?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:22:36 No.43357071 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357117 >>43357674 >>43360548

>>43356335

Basically, he's a bit of a pussy. He never had a good statblock made - the Pathfinder version is a little bit better though.

The thing about the FR jump is that the points you get from the drawbacks are more than enough to negate their threat - if you take all the Elder Evils (minus Pandorym, as that's the riskiest), Orcus, Drizzt, Delicious, Light Blindness and Duel drawbacks... then you can steamroll everything ever published that isn't an actual God.

Note that Duel refers to your class levels, so if you take a powerful monster race and templates and keep the class levels low then you have nothing to worry about.

At any rate, assuming you're halfway familiar with the rules, this is what ends up happening:

http://pastebin.com/YyyDw1b9

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:25:27 No.43357117 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357224 >>43357296

>>43357071
It's almost like basing the jump entirely on the actual rules was a really stupid idea.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:26:58 No.43357156 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357355

>>43356335
Pretty much any of the elder evils just waking up is an end of the world event.

That isn't them attacking stuff or actively trying to destroy everything, that's just a side effect of them being there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:30:58 No.43357224 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357306 >>43357386

>>43357117
Pretty much. Imagine if Twilight jump mandated you have to love Edward and Bella.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:34:47 No.43357296 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357373 >>43357473

>>43357117

Yep. I went super-cheesy with it, because it was basically begging for it - but it should never have been written this way.

A clear case of putting powergrabs over quality.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:35:23 No.43357306 Report Delete

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>>43357224
̷̧̯̮̭̝̰͚̫̥̥̣̞͇͎͙͓̝̆ͤ̀ͅ ̉ͧ̌̄̾̎ͥͥ̋̉̊̅̚҉̭̖̩̻̜̖͜͡͞ ̴̢̙̰̜̲͎͎̪̰̉ͨ̍̑͘͜ ̴̭̥̬̘͙̩̠̹̯͕̝̹ͯ͆̏͟ͅ ̡̞̟̟̙͕̩̪͇̫̥̽̄͐ͪ̃̍͌̎̂̾ͩͩͪ͛͞ ̞̲̼̙̥̘̰̜̺̯̗̖̯̫̳͓͗́ͤͩ̓̐͑ͯ̌ͥͣ̇ͯ͢͢͡͡ͅͅ ̏ͦͥͤͥ͆̑ͪͨ҉̀͏̜̟̫̬̙̯͓͕͕̹ ̵̛̋̍́̽͊̑̇ͫ̎ͨ̾ͤ͞͏҉̯̰͕͉͔͙͕̝̦̲ ̸̡̝͎̩̠̪̳̹̳̯̲͈̲͓̞̺͎̼̈̃͆̀̍̄ͤ͛̐̌̓̑̊ ̉̿̐͆͆͌̔ͧ͌̎ͯ̐̾ͫ̆̑ͪͣ̽͏̨̺̪̟̬͖͓̲̣̥̻̰̣̯̭͖̱̘͕͇ ̴̦͇̠̠̠͙̠̓ͮ̒ͦ͗ͪ̆̽̈͗̃ͣ͂̿̿͐ͩ̀̚͞ ͔̜̙̺͎̮͔̗̞͈̎͌̿͗͂́̀́͢͝ ̵̷͒̌ͨ͌̎͆ͧ̋̒̾̐́͡҉̮͇̳͙̯͔̤̗͖̺̣̩̻̯̰̯͈ ̵̢̨ͯ͋̉̊̓ͨ̆̃͌͂̓͌̈ͯ̓͡҉̬̜̮̟̦̫͕̙̫̦̥ͅ ̻̗̦̗̤̪̣̝̾̀ͤ̽ͦͤͦ̇̽̑̃̊̆̀ͮ͒̾͘͢ ̷͇͕̪̻̻͙̞͇͇̖͐̇̌̍̂ͭ̊͘ ̷̸̴͕͇̪̜̮̟̦̟̃͑ͫ͐ͪ͒ͪ̏͐̒ͨ́̚ͅ ̵͈͓̠̪͓̞̞̳̮̳̭͈̳͍̹̼̼̿̍͂̃̈́̀̀ͯͥ̍͑͂̆̇̓̍̐ͅ ̡̛͓͉̭̫͚̮ͪͩͯ͐ͩ̿͘͢͝ͅ ̩̲̰̥̜͓̼̥̺̹̥͕̣͖͗ͮ̄̀ͯ̒͌̾͗̕̕͢
̶̵͈̝̞̦̼̬̭͖͕̹͔̙̩̄ͮ̇̅ͧͥ̄̉̈́ͧͪ̌̒̚͞ͅ ̨͖̻̦̮͇͈̦͇̪̬͎̰̦͆̊̊ͯ̅͋̌ͣ̂̒͆̑̅ͯͯ̐͂͘̕͡ͅ ̛̭͍͇̼̲̫͖̥̮͕̬̯̖̀̈́͊̆̊̊̊͡ͅͅ ̻̗͈̪̽͗̿͑̄̆ͤ̒͌͂̎̔͌̂͐͂̔́͡ ̽ͪ̏ͭ̅ͪ́̎҉̢͖̘̰̹̝̹̜̞̠̰̥̟̪͍͍̪ ̏͗̎̆ͫ̑̓ͭ҉̣̰̳̭͠ ̪̘̼̦̥͚̙̞̟͈ͧ̎̔̿̄ͫͣ͛͋̾ͯ͋͒͒ͯ̽ͣ͟ ̧ͭ̆ͫͥͤ͒͘͢͏̢̻͍̗̰̲͙̰̱̟̘̙ͅ ̺̮̹̣̰͇̲̼͓̗͖̺̗͌̾ͮͪ̈͛̇̿ͫͮ͟͞ ̷͛͑̿ͤ̒̃ͦ̋͌ͦ͠҉̹͉̺͓͎͉̝̩̝̗̰̱͘ͅͅ ̽̎̀ͧͥ̍ͮͯͫ̀̅͏̨̜͉̭̻̳̻̘͔͙ ̵̡̛̤͉͎̭̬̯̤̣͎̉̄ͦ̊̽ͪ̎ͪ͘͠ ̷̦̪̞̞̩͗̽ͫͮ̅ͫͫ̓ͦͪͩͧ͑ͣ̽̀ͅ ̢̡̑͐̒ͨ͗͛ͤ̐͛͊ͣ̔̾͒ͦ͗̚҉͟҉̘̻̩̭͍͇̼̲͉̭̲̟̖͙̟̩̺͓ͅ ̛͇̝͓͓̳̪̳̝͐̂͋ͭ̾̿́̓̎̈̓ͮͣ͆̌̅́̿͢ ̶ͪ̽ͭ̐̒͗ͬͣ͋͆ͯ̄͐̊̀̒ͤͪ̒͏̵̵̯̠̻̖̝̹̝͢ ̵̸̧̤̪̱̩͙̞̘̫͈̫̀̆̄̀ͣͨ̾̆̈́͛̔͆̀͞ ̨́͌ͫ̍ͥ̔ͯ̄̽̾̿̈ͯ҉̷̙͓̮̳͖̜͔͎͍̲͡ ̿͆̆͊͏̶̡̮͕̱͈̪̞̜͞ ̪̣͓̺̱̯͚̣͉̜̠̭̣̖̒͌̿ͣ̅̾̓ͣ̋̊ͩ̓̂͐͘͜ ̵̨̲͚̙̤͇͔̱͉̹̙̦̺͓ͥͥ̆ͪ̾́͞ͅ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:37:36 No.43357355 Report Delete

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>>43357156

Yes, though note that that's only a problem for the rest of the world. At any rate, here's what I subjected Faerun (in order, one per year):

Atropus: Zombie Apocalypse
Father Llymic: Global temperature disruption, no sun for days.
Hulks of Zoretha: Increasing rage, turns to global murder-frenzy.
Leviathan: Eerie storms. Global. Every hour shifts. 20% chance of hurricanes-ish, 20% it poisoning water or burning or starting fire or raining meteorites. "displaced oceans, crumbled mountain ranges"
Ragnorra: Healing becomes easier and easier until it starts happening automatically and begins corrupting flesh, destroying unsealed away undead and turnign the living and recently dead into aberration servants.
Sertrous: I'm sick of all these motherfucking demon snakes on this motherfucking plane! Snakes spawn globally, becoming demonic or hydras and marilith and so on.
Kyuss: Local for once - some island vomits maggots and giant worms. Probably wind up all over the coast though.
Zargon: As Leviathan, but the evil weather is instead slime that turns people into slime monsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:37:54 No.43357362 Report Delete

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>>43356862
Well, there is also a shovel in Animal Crossing, but that takes more time the more powerful the thing you are copying is.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:38:15 No.43357373 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357397 >>43357802

>>43357296
Even if it wasn't rules based people would still be able to get the same level of power.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:39:11 No.43357386 Report Delete

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>>43357224
There's probably something in there about how love takes many forms (including decapitation)

But ick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:39:41 No.43357397 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357425

>>43357373

If you stack most (not even all) the drawbacks you get at least 60 effective levels of power.

You would not be able to get that if it was written properly and did not force itself to work by the rules.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:40:50 No.43357425 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357519

>>43357397
>You would not be able to get that
Yes you would, actually. That kinda power is obtainable lore wise.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:43:08 No.43357473 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357509

>>43357296
And if Megacorp ever comes back we get a PF jump that's fine the same way. Yay!
In fairness I think he was cutting down on some of the ridiculous things like the any race option.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:44:57 No.43357509 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43359977

>>43357473
>The same way
Stop shitstorming, you baby. Letting you pick classes, archetypes, and races does not make it the same as the FR jump. Many jumps do that, and there's nothing wrong with it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:45:21 No.43357519 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357541

>>43357425

In which case you will have no problem pointing out a CR60 monster correct?

And why on earth you think that would actually be something that works in a properly built Jump that doesn't use the shitty rules of any edition or jerk off to munchkinism...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:45:47 No.43357526 Report Delete

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>>43345632
>this hasn't been posted yet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMEUZgNplDA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:46:59 No.43357541 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357584 >>43357616 >>43357640 >>43357769

>>43357519
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/SRD:Prismatic_Dragon

That thing exists by lore, so yeah. You could get that level of power by lore. Sorry honey bear. It wouldn't be as easy, but it exists.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:49:10 No.43357584 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357613 >>43357640

>>43357541

Do you... have any idea how long it takes for a dragon to hit Wyrm?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:50:37 No.43357613 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357671 >>43357674

>>43357584
I sure do. Do you have any idea what my point is? That your argument of power, is not entirely correct. You could get to the same strength in a non-mechanical FR jump. This is not an argument of ease, or time, or any other factor other than the fact that it's possible.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:50:42 No.43357616 Report Delete

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>>43357541
>it wouldn't be as easy
Which is kind of the point. Just because a level of power exists does not mean it's fine to offer it at the very start of the jump. The Raildex jumps don't make you a Level 6 first off, the Fate jumps don't give you the perk that makes you a TYPE and Worm doesn't let you be an Endbringer. Is it possible to become those things or get on their power level? Yes, but it's not something you should just be able to buy with cp and get easy peasy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:51:42 No.43357638 Report Delete

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>>43357616
Good thing that's not what we were arguing. Anon has started arguing that power doesn't exist at all, which is what I proved wrong.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:51:57 No.43357640 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357671

>>43357541
Building on >>43357584 this is kind of like saying that jumping Raildex should let you attain Crowley's power right off the bat dude. Or that jumping Elder Scrolls should let you instantly surpass Talos.

Honestly you're kinda coming off as the bigger moron here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:53:05 No.43357671 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357706

>>43357640
See >>43357638
>>43357613

Anon said that power isn't possible. That is the argument, Not how long it would take to obtain. You are all missing the point, I'm afraid.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:53:09 No.43357674 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357802

>>43357613
>>43357638
Oh wait, I thought you guys were arguing about what's acceptable to be offered at the START of a jump. I see I was mistaken.

My bad.

>>43357071
>ASA does some last minute window shopping

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:54:29 No.43357706 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357794

>>43357671
As I said below, fair enough.

I just got here and I'm feeling sleepy.

...jesus christ captcha, why the fuck is there a masked man in images for selecting food. Get the fuck away from /tv/

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:56:38 No.43357769 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357795 >>43357827 >>43358943

>>43357541
>checking those skills
>tumble
>At 100 DC you're immune to falling damage

Jesus christ, is the implication that if you train hard enough over the centuries you can tumble so good you'll enver suffer falling damage again?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:57:32 No.43357794 Report Delete

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>>43357706
Gee Anon maybe you should go to bed if you're feeling sleepy! Don't worry no masked men are waiting for you to fall asleep

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:57:35 No.43357795 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43357769
Rolling so good you transfer all the momentum into your roll.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:57:39 No.43357802 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357831

>>43357674
>Oh wait, I thought you guys were arguing about what's acceptable to be offered at the START of a jump. I see I was mistaken.

We were.

I made a mistake by saying CR60 instead of Level 60.

Originally he was saying:
>>43357373
>Even if it wasn't rules based people would still be able to get the same level of power.

As though a non-rules based Jump would actually have those options, or a powercurve that explicitly adhered to the rules as written instead of to the actual setting.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:58:17 No.43357816 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357871

Also can anyone explain what the fuck Caster is doing in DnD?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:58:42 No.43357827 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357858

>>43357769
3.5 is known for being a broken system for a reason, especially at higher levels. It's just really meant to go above a certain level, because what's already barely working rule-wise stops and the faults just get bigger.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:58:48 No.43357831 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43357802
No, I was saying that you would be able to obtain that level of power in-setting. Not that you could start like that, never did I say that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 18:59:43 No.43357858 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357904

>>43357827
It's just really NOT* meant to go above a certain level*

Goddamn I should not be drinking right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:00:07 No.43357871 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357990

>>43357816
DnD wiki has a section for homebrew.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:01:43 No.43357904 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43357926 >>43357969 >>43357975

>>43357858
Actually, it's more like "It's not supposed to go above a certain section and remain in the realm of mortals." Which is 5. 5 is as high as you go and remain "reasonable." After that, you're literally a mythical figure. Under that, things are... somewhat reasonable. Or as reasonable as you'd expect a game to get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:02:41 No.43357926 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358033

>>43357904
There's nothing wrong with playing mythic figures though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:04:38 No.43357969 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358023 >>43358033

>>43357904
No, I mean that once you start getting into Epic levels, the rules themselves start fucking up because they're not designed to handle the number of dice you start getting or the sheer number of turns or special actions etc. When a single turn takes an hour just to get through and remember every last ability a single character has, the system has messed up somewhere. Epic level play starts off not too bad, but the higher you get the more of these issues you'll find.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:05:03 No.43357975 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358024 >>43358033

>>43357904
Yeah, but you also have to start above level 1. If you don't, you'll miss every attack and have incredible likelihood of dying in one hit.
If you want to play super competent or heroic types, you can keep playing up until around level 10, actually, but past that the game just breaks down.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:05:31 No.43357990 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358097

>>43357871
Fair enough.

Also, provided I don't want to be a dragon (I know, I know-just run with it) any advice for what sort of epic creature I should jump as (I know, I know-just trying to make the best out of a terrible jump)?

Preferably something like an elemental or angel.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:06:38 No.43358016 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43345632
This would kick in just as I start pulling ahead.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ashe_4phX_Y&index=99&list=PLPBNtTHwo6mnj6IQaTKGWBfnuZ_oHirKi

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:07:01 No.43358023 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358035

>>43357969
Could be worse. You could see what happens when DnD tries to go high level comics/anime power tier in the Immortals Handbook. It's fucking great to read and laugh but fuck ever trying to run a game with that many dice, even on a computer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:07:03 No.43358024 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358060 >>43358122 >>43359345

>>43357975
The game's mostly fine up to 20 honestly, except in class balance. And the root problem with class balance is that martial fans want to be hyper realistic. They don't want to play a mythical warrior figure like Cu Chullain, they want to play soldierman with his generic slashes somehow winning over magic and giant monsters. So any attempt to fix it is written off as 'weeaboo' or whatever because supernatural fighters aren't what the dumbass fighter fans want.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:07:48 No.43358033 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43357926
I agree. But once mythical figures get involved, you're supposed to throw "reasonable" out the window.

>>43357969
Oh. Yeah. The Epic rules were... fuck, I don't even know. I mean, they seem kind of interesting at first glance (I'm so strong I can break through WALLS OF FORCE!), but then you read them, and you're like... "What is this, I don't even."

>>43357975
Like I said. Non-mythic.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:08:04 No.43358035 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358070

>>43358023
Immortal's Handbook is not official, so its problems are not entirely Wizards' fault.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:09:15 No.43358060 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358074 >>43358344

>>43358024
>martial fans want to be hyper realistic
No, the martial DEVELOPERS want that

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:09:51 No.43358070 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358035
Oh I know, but it's amusing seeing how far they try to stretch a system really not meant for that sort of play.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:10:04 No.43358074 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358126 >>43358139

>>43358060
Really? Because every time I see people propose mythical warriors and classes suggested here, there's always a ton of complaints.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:11:13 No.43358097 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358187 >>43358209

>>43357990
Be the Tarrasque

I mean, uh, Elemental Dragon from Mongoose's Epic Monsters book for 3.0? They're pretty neat. They're elementals. Don't even have the dragon subtype. They're just... dragons made out of elements or something. Actually, that whole book's pretty neat. Has all sorts of cool things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:12:22 No.43358122 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358154

>>43358024
Man, I don't know where you're pulling that from. I'd love to be able to play super weeaboo ninja bullshit, throwing tornados because I can spin my sword. That shit just doesn't exist in 3.5. They have over two hundred supplements for that system and it leans heavily against martials the whole way through.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:12:54 No.43358126 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358154

>>43358074
Those are mostly in relation to systems where the class balance is already fucked so hard that it'll never be fixed so why the fuck are you even playing them. The only people left in those arguments are the ones who enjoy caster supremacy and people very new to pen and paper.

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:12:56 No.43358127 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358162

I don't see what's wrong with Book of Nine Swords, brought more than "I swing my sword, pass the cheetos, and I end my turn. BRB tell me when to attack again." Vs, "Ok so I dash forward, leaping in the targets back, slashing with my sword dealing X & doing Y, and jump off with a flourish at the end. As says the martial spell card I have here."

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:13:47 No.43358139 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358154

>>43358074
Homebrew doesn't count.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:14:34 No.43358154 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358122
I want to play that too, I prefer semi-magic or mixed warriors. But every time I see it discussed on /tg/? People complain. Say it's weeaboo or stupid or whatever.

>>43358126
I highly doubt that, considering this is from people who hate casters but also don't want their fighters not to be realistic. They're very loud. Honestly I think they should be fans of a more 'realistic' system and let DnD's fighters be mythical figures too.

>>43358139
Count in what way? Because people proposing how to make it better are just discussing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:14:47 No.43358162 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358178

>>43358127
Nothing's wrong with it. But really why not just play nearly any other rpg? Even just shifting to 4e will solve that issue.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:15:34 No.43358178 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358205 >>43358344 >>43358693 >>43359376

>>43358162
4e is pure fucking garbage.

Also saying "Don't play DnD" when people want to talk DnD is just idiotic.

KOTOR Anon

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KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:15:46 No.43358187 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358212 >>43358225

>>43358097
>They're just... dragons made out of elements or something.
This reminds me of /tg/'s periodic table dragons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:16:32 No.43358205 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358693

>>43358178
>4e is pure fucking garbage
Nice opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:16:48 No.43358209 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358344

>>43358097
Aw shit, really? Can't get away from the dragons at all?

I have found something called an Elder Titan that sounds promising. something else called a Shadow of the Void that is a) overly edgy and b) undead, so ew

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:17:05 No.43358212 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358330

>>43358187
Bismuth is even softer than gold. Bismuth a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:17:49 No.43358225 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358187
Bismuth dragon looks way too chill out and generally not edgy. I have to wonder what the Uranium Dragon looks like.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:21:40 No.43358293 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43356657
Fair. I was definitely going for flavor over raw power - what are their powers and descriptions in-game, as opposed to "who's going to be the biggest challenge?" That's what worthy opponents are for, after all.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:23:36 No.43358330 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358212
Which is why an Osmium dragon would be a best. Even if it isn't the hardest you could get, being toxic would give it an edge. Also it'd be the best elemental dragon under pressure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:24:07 No.43358344 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358389 >>43358408 >>43358417

>>43358060
Yes. Because no one has complained about the Book of Nine Swords.
But seriously, say whatever you want about the flavor of the thing, it did, at least, bring a nice mythical feel to warriors. Refluff the stuff to be less Weeboo, maybe do something in the feel of the Knights of the Round Table, and you get something nice.

>>43358209
Oh, no, there's a crap-ton of really cool stuff in there. That was just what I could remember off the top of my head. There's also shit like Calamity Elementals, Hellephants, Clown Demons... It switches off between being amusingly stupid and actually pretty cool.

>>43358178
Eh, I dunno. Telling someone, "Okay, look, the system you're using is bad at what you're trying to do. Use this one instead." is actually pretty decent advice most of the time. As long as you avoid being a dick about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:26:33 No.43358389 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358344
Whoops. Got into a tangent for the first one. Meant to point out: Book of Nine Swords's reception showed that the fans aren't really fond of not hyper-realistic martials, not that the developers aren't. ... although they don't seem to be either.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:27:35 No.43358408 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358453

>>43358344
If people like a setting and system they're gonna want to play that, not some fanboy's favorite.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:27:50 No.43358417 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358527

>>43358344
>clown demons
>holy fucking shit it's real why why WHY IS THIS A THING

https://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Evil_Clown_(3.5e_NPC_Class)

How the FUCK does this thing fit in any D&D campaign ever?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:30:28 No.43358453 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358408
Well, then they have to deal with the fact that their own personal fanboy system is bad at certain things then and its their problem then.

Setting is completely irrelevant, you can play FR in GURPS if you so desired.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:34:54 No.43358527 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358417
A rather cliche Carnival of Blood is how I introduced them. It was pretty fun. Nice halloween adventure.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:37:43 No.43358581 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358693

>Ask one question about FR
>Go do things
>Come back to check
>ALL the DnD discussions
>mfw

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:43:58 No.43358693 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358205
>>43358178

Konata here. Can confirm that 4E is pure fucking garbage. ... unless you're a martial. Then it's purportedly pretty fun?

> Citation Needed:
I and some friends played 4E online several years ago, having never tried it before. We had five players, and were split evenly down the middle between fighters and casters (one player switched characters halfway through the game).
Exactly half of our group actually enjoyed the system.

If you're moving from 3.5 (which is what we were doing) and you're playing a martial, it's actually a huge upgrade. If you're playing a caster (my fellow mages), or for that matter like to try to work outside the box or do weird unconventional shit (me), you will be punished for it.
Don't ever try to be a summoner in 4E, it doesn't work.
You pick a class and you stick to it.

The DM later said he felt regret at using that system, due to the lopsided rebalancing that occured.

But hey! Martials get to do cool stuff! That's... that's cool, I guess...
I'm glad my martial friends had fun, at least, but it's hard when they can't really understand your position on it.

>>43358581
Get out while you can.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:46:42 No.43358741 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358765 >>43358793 >>43358811 >>43358855 >>43359070 >>43359318

Well, on this note: Jumpers! Which do you prefer? Supernatural abilities, or purely mundane?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:47:43 No.43358765 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358783 >>43358786 >>43358793 >>43358855

>>43358741
Wait. Shit. Bad place to ask, huh?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:48:44 No.43358783 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358793 >>43358855

>>43358765
Timing. I mean timing. Because... fuck, I don't even- you know, what, I'm going to go take a nap. I'm incoherent right now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:48:54 No.43358786 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358765
Yep.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:49:17 No.43358793 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358804

>>43358741
>>43358765
>>43358783
I don't understand?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:49:53 No.43358804 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358793
Nor do I. Thus a nap. Ignore everything I just said.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:50:15 No.43358811 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358741
>/tg/, in a CYOA thread, in a separate thread for a multiverse fiction CYOA

...yeah. I mean, holy shit-understatement of the milennium dude.

All I can say is: At this point they're kinda interchangeable to me when I can take mundane skills up to ridiculous heights and use supernatural abilities to boil my tea and clean my laundry.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:52:32 No.43358855 Report Delete

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>>43358741 >>43358765 >>43358783

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:57:25 No.43358943 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43358962

>>43357769

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:58:59 No.43358962 Report Delete

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>>43358943
I don't understand why people think Exalted is ridiculous anymore. None of this shit even costs motes.

Justiceanon !8FVFEBTVK2

Justiceanon !8FVFEBTVK2 Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:05:36 No.43359070 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43358741
I like punching things until they fall down, and if that fails I use my sword.

I use lots of magic, and a surprising amount of Beam Spam when looking back on my build, but Punching is my main solution to fights.

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo

banchô-Anon !AbZbuuBYdo Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:19:43 No.43359318 Report Delete

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>>43358741
I Combine them,Channel my arcane power into my fists and punch them into a duck, Set fire to my hands and punch the duck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:21:48 No.43359345 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43359369

>>43358024
Uh, that because Fighter sucks. Fighter always sucks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:22:59 No.43359369 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43359345
It applies to most martials, Fighter is just the worst example from core.

I think Samurai was the worst overall.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:23:35 No.43359376 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43359673

>>43358178
4E teh game where the Party Sorc @ lvl 7 is a better Fighter than the Fighter

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:38:08 No.43359643 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360182

D&D mechanics make sense on a tabletop, but fall apart when you try to imagine them in a real world setting. Trying to limit a jumper with tabletop crunch is stupid, so long as that jumper isn't jumping the tabletop game for his or her first jump.

Multi-class / dual-class restrictions, hitpoints, and CR are best ignored on jumpchain.

Manyfist

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Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:39:48 No.43359673 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43359692 >>43360117

>>43359376
What? That was 3.5, 4e Sorcerer & Fighter had two different roles. Fighter was Defender, he basically there to be a beat stick and punish the enemy for not beating on him. He had secondary operation as a Striker, but Sorcerer is a Striker with Controller secondary role.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:40:59 No.43359692 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43359762

>>43359673
I absolutely despise tanks as a role. Stupidest thing WoW has forced upon us.

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:45:09 No.43359762 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43359692
Wow didn't force tanking, D&D forced tanking in the very beginning. Way back when there was Fighting guy, Magic guy, Stealthy Guy. Fighting guy was there to tank and keep the squishies alive. 4e's Tanking wasn't drowning aggro, it was a punishment scheme. Defenders punished opponents for not attacking them, so a Fighter could get an extra trip attack if Orc 1 decided to attack Clemson the Wizard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:57:51 No.43359977 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43357509
Yeah, I just want it to be good. Sorry for bringing it up again in such a negative manner.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:04:34 No.43360117 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360170

>>43359673
4E allows you to have Sorcs with higher AC than Fighters

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:06:59 No.43360170 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360117
Yeah? Doesn't mean they're a better fighter than fighter. Just means they can take less damage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:07:36 No.43360182 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360204 >>43360271

>>43359643
To be fair, you'd be hard pressed to find a system that "makes sense" on a conceptual level without becoming ridiculously overcomplicated, and as long as you accept that anyone above level 5 is basically a superhero, and that most people rarely hit level 3, D&D actually holds up pretty well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:08:22 No.43360197 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360233 >>43360243 >>43360247 >>43360296 >>43361524 >>43361594 >>43361978

>>43355908
Depends on which you apply first. Experimental then Import? You'd have a Light of Terra retrofitted with Supreme Commander ACU technology, the functions of which being 15% slower but with a 500% increase to power and armor. No size change since the LoT is already far larger than an ACU.

Imported then Experimental? You'd have a Light of Terra retrofitted with Supreme Commander ACU technology, all of which would be 15% slower but with a 500% increase to power and armor, and the ship would be 200% larger.

Either way, if you bought the free Docking Bay, you now have a hangar (that will be attached to your warehouse post-jump) big enough to fit your LoT, complete with an equally huge Quantum Gate at one end.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:08:51 No.43360204 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360182
It's a game about playing mythic heroes, which is why I always find it funny when people complain about PC's being exceptional, odd, or different. That's the entire point, guys.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:10:31 No.43360233 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360197
... I want. I want so much.

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:10:57 No.43360243 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360255 >>43360269 >>43360345 >>43360943

>>43360197
Would that mean LoT is now a giant robot?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:11:14 No.43360247 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360197
LoT 200% larger... this is gonna be great

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:11:44 No.43360255 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360296 >>43360298

>>43360243
Light of Terra has become Mega Maid!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:12:15 No.43360269 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360296

>>43360243
LoT Super Dimensional Fortress edition

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:12:19 No.43360271 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360304

>>43360182
I can buy into that, I just find it equal parts amusing and irritating when people talk about how a jumper leveling past a certain point would be impossible due to CR or the like. That's a purely tabletop mechanic and doesn't make sense for jumpchain.

This is especially true when applied to multiclassing. Just because you're a level 20-something or 30-something wizard and a jumper decides to start barding for a living should mean that he has to bard Ancient Epic Crystal Prismatic Dragons of TIme in order to learn how to sing and tell stories with greater skill. That's just pants-on-head retarded.

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:13:31 No.43360296 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360327 >>43360332 >>43360358 >>43360417 >>43360524

>>43360269
>>43360255
>>43360197
Screw having the LoT, what about the reward fortress you get for breaking the Deadlight?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:13:35 No.43360298 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360255
She's gone from suck to blow!

Which, if you imported her into Kc and made her a shipgirl is apropos.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:13:57 No.43360304 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360271
good point

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Hand Kanons Enforcement INC. !!xfwL0v35tYr Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:15:12 No.43360327 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360296
15% slower than continental drift?!?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:15:20 No.43360332 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360296
Sorry Many I survived without my powers

thanks to my giant spider friend.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:15:50 No.43360345 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360943

>>43360243
Importation alone, I don't think so.

However, if you look at the notes:
"ACU Transformation:
If you imported a vehicle, you have the choice of transforming into either a flying or land vehicle (depending on what the vehicle is now) or a mech.
Yes, that means you could have the Light of Terra become either a super Bolo or a space faring robot. "

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:16:29 No.43360358 Report Delete

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>>43360296
Why would anyone want that useless garbage?

Clover

Clover Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:16:51 No.43360365 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360385

Is this build possible, or will I have to change the order around:

Get LoT from LoT
Import LoT to ACU
Import LoT to Kantai, henceforth Lucentia

Get loyal mecha musume companion who can turn into a giant battlestar on command.

More steps as required. (Haven't been keeping up to date on jumps, there's like 400)

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:17:37 No.43360385 Report Delete

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>>43360365
That'd work, more jumps would just give her more stuff.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:18:56 No.43360408 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360485

>>43357015
Like Acheld says at the top of the jump, it's basically Civilization (as in "awesome for an early 90s DOS game") except with fantasy units and the faction leaders being world-powerful wizards.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:19:16 No.43360417 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360514

>>43360296
RoboAnon is incredibly giving on what you are allowed to import. He once stated you could import power armor, but it will be converted into a mech and not Kaiju armor.

Also, one could possible overcome the -15% for speed by taking "Increased Speed" upgrade which gives a 20%... increase to speed. Giving a net gain of 5%.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:22:49 No.43360485 Report Delete

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>>43360408
Speaking of similar whatever happened to the Age of Wonders jump that was in progress?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:24:31 No.43360514 Report Delete

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>>43360417
Well, as the guy who asked about power armour I got the feeling he wanted to say no, and personally I'd take it as not being allowed but him just being too nice to say no. Current idea is a Zoid, but the LoT is seeing like a better and better choice...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:25:06 No.43360524 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360662

>>43360296
a more pressing question is how is teh Eldar jump coming along?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:25:08 No.43360526 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360551 >>43360592

Would a level 5 esper with electrokinesis be able to assume an energy body form?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:26:50 No.43360548 Report Delete

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>>43357071
>http://pastebin.com/YyyDw1b9
Nice writing. What was your build? I'm particularly curious about the apparently exotic creature form you picked for Race?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:26:55 No.43360551 Report Delete

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>>43360526
You, as an electrokinetic, have one advantage the rest of us with Esper powers do not. Namely, you have a canon character you are directly based on you can refer to. Basically, go look at what Misaka can do,and that's what you do.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:29:03 No.43360592 Report Delete

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>>43360526
Not as far as I know, you can easily get that in Infamous though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:30:16 No.43360608 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360637 >>43360687 >>43360744

>>43348428
And there goes Kill Chain. Darn does anyone know of any other perks that lets you mow through mooks like a bushwhacker?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:31:46 No.43360637 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360712

>>43360608
One of the Nasuverse jumps I believe its not one of the fates though (I can't remember)

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:32:47 No.43360662 Report Delete

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>>43360524
Coming along slowly. My muse comes and goes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:33:29 No.43360676 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43360861

>>43357015
I used to play the hell out of it. It's a very solid game (post-patch) even today.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:33:56 No.43360687 Report Delete

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>>43360608
One of the Elder Scrolls jumps has a Warrior 600cp perk that's 'one man murder squad'. And I'm pretty sure anything based on an action movie- particularly 80s Movie or Modern Action Movie- will have mook killing perks.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:35:22 No.43360712 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360637
Kara No Kyoukai has it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:36:58 No.43360744 Report Delete

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>>43360608
Killdozer from Tomb Raider, Bring Em On from Iji, and One Woman Army, also from Iji.

acheld

acheld Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:43:04 No.43360861 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43357015
>>43360676
If you do give it a go, which I recommend, make sure to grab the fan-made "insecticide" patch:

http://koti.mbnet.fi/ton_hur/files/mom/

Still in semi-active development here:

http://realmsbeyond.net/forums/showthread.php?tid=3663

There's an alpha version, but I'd recommend using the one in the first link, which is stable.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:44:19 No.43360882 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361002 >>43361104 >>43361224 >>43361505 >>43361539

Well its more or less that time of the year again.

How much of a spooky ghost are you?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:47:51 No.43360943 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360243
You'd have to also buy the Transformation upgrade, see >>43360345

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:51:54 No.43361002 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360882
I have ever fear causing perk.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 21:57:17 No.43361104 Report Delete

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>>43360882
1% spooky, 50% ghost. Danny Phantom ghosts are more extradimensional beings than anything, so I don't have to worry about being dead while ghosting about.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:04:26 No.43361224 Report Delete

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>>43360882
I'm more of a wandering soul body than a ghost. But I do have a ridiculous number of fear perks.

Manyfist

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Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:14:02 No.43361386 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43360358
Attach it to your LoT. You now have a bad ass indestructible captain's cabin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:19:53 No.43361502 Report Delete

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http://pastebin.com/1xRvXpX0
Supreme Commander
free information acquisition
100 enhanced reflexes
200 Global Command
300 Forging Bonds
free derelict craft
300 Schematics UEF Fatboy (+50% construction speed, -25% resource cost)
200 Schematics Engineers (Aeon)
300 Schematics Paragon
200: ACU points
+600 Infinity
Forged Alliance Scenario
ACU 2400MP (+500% weapon damage, -15% speed
0 docking bay
free Railguns-Weapon TYPE
100: advanced allocation resource system
free Enhanced Construction
200 Overcharge
200 Import (leviathan mech/ship)
500 Personal stealth, cloak
1200 Experimental ACU
200 Conversion ray tech

My mech was sized for a Leviathan (zerg) in the cockpit, at about 80km. After the jump, 160km. Pastebin has the longer description, but basically abducted UEF commanders and virtualized them (code lyoko) for a few hundred years, then released them just before running my own Black Sun/Liberation Matrix combination to go into the Forged Alliance Scenario.

Spent most of that time, when not capturing POWs, researching SCPs and converting spells to Song magic.

Justiceanon !8FVFEBTVK2

Justiceanon !8FVFEBTVK2 Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:19:57 No.43361505 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361550

>>43360882
I don't think I do spooky

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:21:32 No.43361524 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361584

>>43360197
Oh, I forgot to add: SupCom tech is ludicrously automated and units can protocraft their own fuel and ammo given time and raw materials, and from lore SupCom ACUs have Halo-level AI assist (think the "Dumb AI" perk) to help you run your robotic legions, so it also means your LoT would no longer need a crew or supplies (other than to nom the occasional chunk of Mass, perhaps, and not even that if you took Dark Star tech).The retrofit would automate everything.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:22:05 No.43361539 Report Delete

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>>43360882
I've taken near ever fear causing perk I've come across and then some nearly 130 jumps in. Very.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:22:33 No.43361550 Report Delete

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>>43361505
>Not knowing that spooky is part of justice now

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:24:19 No.43361584 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43361524
You can make the LoT automated anyway, with the Fleshmetal upgrade. Though the ACU automation is nice, too. The best is getting both, so you can have a living metal giant doom-mecha. Everyone likes living metal.

KOTOR Anon

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KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:24:44 No.43361594 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361623 >>43361831 >>43361978

>>43360197
>the ship would be 200% larger.
So with the max length of the LoT being 32km, you'd end up with a 96km long behemoth.

To put that into perspective, you could probably use it to ram though the entire central cannon on the fucking Death Star if you had enough armor and shielding.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:25:52 No.43361617 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361707 >>43361724

so, I've missed out on where this ACU thing is coming from. Anyone wanna fill me in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:26:08 No.43361623 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361685 >>43361734

>>43361594
And don't forget that the dimensions are probably going to shift around a bit when it transforms to robot mode, so you could easily have a mecha over 100 kilometers tall. I don't know about you, but I plan on freaking out a lot of people when I take this to Gundam.

KOTOR Anon

KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:29:33 No.43361685 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361732 >>43361734 >>43361755 >>43361832

>>43361623
That makes me wonder if it'd be possible to use your spark from Transformers to take over the ACU Light of Terra.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:30:20 No.43361707 Report Delete

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>>43361617
Supreme Commander. 80 meter tall mecha designed to be a mobile armored command post for the nanoassemblers it carries with it. It's meant to get around the mass limits of the quantum gate system, send through a single unit that rapidly builds an entire army of robots. In the jump, you can import any vehicle you have to get its abilities, so a lot of people are thinking about making the Light of Terra into one. Combine it with the Experimental ACU upgrade (triples the ACU's size and power) and the Transforming ACU upgrade (lets it turn back and forth between spaceship and robot forms), we're coming out of this with a mecha large enough to fit into Gurren Lagann even before Spiral Power is applied to it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:31:32 No.43361724 Report Delete

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>>43361617
Supreme Commander jump. not on the drive yet, so linky to thread pdf: >>43309641

Manyfist

Manyfist Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:31:50 No.43361732 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361830

>>43361685
You can't use your own spark. You could make a new spark with one the body upgrades, but you can't use your own.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:31:59 No.43361734 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361777

>>43361623
>>43361685
>Stupidly high power
>Giant
>Will probably end the universe when it explodes

I didn't know we were in Ideon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_cGHNoKSKc

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:32:57 No.43361755 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361830

>>43361685
There's a perk in Zoids that lets you fuse with your giant robot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:34:13 No.43361777 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43361734
Even bigger, though. The Ideon is only 100 meters tall. An ACU Light of Terra is 1000 times that. When it blows, it's taking out more than just the universe it's in.

KOTOR Anon

KOTOR Anon Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:38:03 No.43361830 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43361851

So is the LoT supposed to be a Retribution-class or a Glorian-class? Because I was reading through the archives and I couldn't find any consensus.

>>43361732
Disappointing, but at least I can still fall back on Kaiju form + Size Shifting perks + Giant power armor.

>>43361755
You shouldn't have told me that. Now I know what to use if I want to make a body capable of fighting the chaos gods.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:38:18 No.43361831 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43361594
>There are still ships in this that are several times the super of Super LoT.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:38:17 No.43361832 Report Delete

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>>43361685
No, but there's a Zoids perk that merges machines, I believe. Hybridization theory. Turn your robot/autobot alt form into a LoT ACU!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:39:18 No.43361851 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43361830
Gloriana. Unique warship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:44:39 No.43361946 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Someone should redo Mass Effect. QS did a shit job on it. It could almost be doubled in size for all the things you could add to it. Classes, races, items, scenarios (though that wasn't a thing then), and probably more.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:45:23 No.43361953 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Ignore and report.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:46:44 No.43361978 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43362104

>>43360197
>>43361594
Would the weapons be 200% larger too, or would you just have a the same types of weapons as before to cover that much more ship? That's important to consider.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:47:30 No.43361990 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43362023 >>43362046 >>43362055

Hand Kanons Enforcement INC. !!xfwL0v35tYr

Hand Kanons Enforcement INC. !!xfwL0v35tYr Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:49:22 No.43362023 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43361990
truly the ultimate in performance art

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:51:09 No.43362046 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43361990
This is hilarious. Shove that in the joke jump folder for sure.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:51:52 No.43362055 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43362075 >>43362079 >>43362086 >>43362120

>>43361990
Lost seems to get an unfair amount of discounts and it's free, while cabins are the most expensive and get next to nothing. Is being a cabin really that much of an advantage?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:52:57 No.43362075 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>43362055
Cabin gets you Shia LaBeouf for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:53:06 No.43362079 Report Delete

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>>43362055
It is, as Shia LaBeouf can't eat a cabin.

At least I think so.

NuBee

NuBee Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:53:49 No.43362086 Report Delete

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>>43362055

Actual Cannibals don't eat cabins. It's safer, while Lost is more risk reward, clearly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:55:03 No.43362104 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43362135

>>43361978
Well, you'd have more /room/ to mount weapons. I don't know that you'd be able to power them or hold ammo for that many, though. There has tone a point of diminishing returns somewhere, doesn't there?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:56:36 No.43362120 Report Delete

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>>43362055
Cabin gets Shia Lebouf as a companion while still having money to buy perks.

It's a question of what you want your big hurrah to be, really.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 22:57:41 No.43362135 Report Delete

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>>43362104
It's an ACU. It can construct ammo faster than it can fire it! Probably best to stick a paragon or two in there, or a whatwasit... darkstar upgrade?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:14:36 No.43362380 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>43362436

Jumpers, do you consider yourself human?

Suggestions and criticism are welcome. This is a draft.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:18:07 No.43362436 Report Delete

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>>43362380
Post it next thread, we're on page 11

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