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China General

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 07:30:13 No.1030719 View Reply Report Delete

China General

Old thread is at: >>1007576

General info:
http://wikitravel.org/en/China

Hotels:
http://hotel.elong.net/
http://english.ctrip.com/hotels/

Buses:
http://bus.ctrip.com/
http://www.chinabusguide.com/

Trains:
http://www.cnvol.com/
http://www.travelchinacheaper.com/how-to-buy-china-train-tickets-online

Expat restaurants/supermarkets/bars:
http://listings.echinacities.com/

Apps:
Pleco (dictionary)
baidu maps/google maps

VPNs:
Astril/VPNNinja

4chan: get a pass or use a vpn or both (might be blocked now)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 08:03:29 No.1030726 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031192

Is VyprVPN reliable?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 08:18:01 No.1030728 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1030744 >>1031173

Looking at traveling to and exploring Sichuan and Yunnan provinces next year, any hot tips or must see things for those areas?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 09:03:45 No.1030744 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1030755

>>1030728
>Sichuan and Yunnan
Those are some of my favourite places.

The backpacker trail in Yunnan is Kunming to Dali/Lijiang and up to Shangrila via Tiger Leaping Gorge. From Shangrila, you can either head back to Dali/Li Jiang, maybe whichever you didn't do the first time and then head on to Sichuan or go straight there from Shangrila.

protip: Shangrila isn't it's real name, it's Zhongdian, they just named it that for tourists. It's a nice Tibetan town even though half the old town burnt down a few years ago. Pic related, from before the fire.

Sichuan has Pandas in Chengdu which are cool (any hostel can hook you up) and Chongqing which I really like but which is kind of polluted. Still, one of the few places where every side of the building can have it's own street entrance on different levels. I love the underground arcades in Chongqing that link the tops of some buildings with the basements of others. The landscape is really dramatic if you stay in the central peninsula bit of it. There are a few hostels in both places, I recommend River View in Chongqing and Hump in Kunming.

If you do the pandas, make sure you pay extra for the 'training', it's a border-line scam but it's the only way you'll ever put your hands on an actual panda and it's not that much in real money.

Sichuan also has Ermai which is one of the big famous mountains in China and said to be beautiful in winter.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 09:18:29 No.1030755 Report Delete

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>>1030744
Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely check out Dali and Zhongdian.

What's the panda "training"? In what way is it a borderline scam?

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Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 09:52:57 No.1030770 Report Delete

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>>1030755
>>1030755
>What's the panda "training"? In what way is it a borderline scam?
I'm exaggerating, basically, tours of the panda facility can hook you up with a deal that lets you pat panda cubs.

You pay about 5x the price and get a few hours 'training' and then you get dressed up in scrubs and get to wash the baby pandas down in the morning and maybe cuddle them a little. Technically, you're not paying to play with baby pandas, you're paying for training and then 'volunteering' as a zoo worker.

I can't remember the price exactly but I think it was Y500 or so. About $100. Probably more now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 11:57:42 No.1030810 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1030961 >>1030966 >>1030978 >>1030979 >>1031016

So for people who don't speak a lick of Chinese, how do you get by in China?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 19:47:44 No.1030938 Report Delete

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how much are looking at paying for viagra in China?

I once bought some in shanghai at two diff. pharmacies and the prices varied depending on the district I was in, or maybe I just got ripped off by a cunt the second time. First time I paid 500 RMB for a fairly big box of pills, the next time I paid 500 RMB for like 3 or 4 pills.

are they usually cheaper in the tier 2 cities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 21:30:41 No.1030961 Report Delete

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>>1030810
>how do you get by in China
>not speaking Chinese
I sure hope you guys...

You pick up a few words of course. Sign language. Dictionary apps. Translation apps. Spend a lot of time waiting for people to fetch their one English speaking colleague.

I've never been in China without speaking a little but I guess that's how you'd do it.

You can go a long way by pointing at something and holding up a number of fingers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 21:42:21 No.1030966 Report Delete

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>>1030810
You're living in an age where travelling is by far the simplest it has ever been in human history. You can even translate words and phrases on your portable telephone now!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 22:23:55 No.1030978 Report Delete

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>>1030810
I make friends on interpals with qt chinese girls, then when I visit China, I do and hang out with them, and they handle the Chinese speaking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 09 Sep 2015 22:26:27 No.1030979 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031122

>>1030810

you won't be able to get around efficiently, occasionally you can fuck yourself into a bad situation.

I had days where I was lost, my cell phone wouldn't work because I don't have a sim card or google maps is blocked, or the internet data is too slow to load a map on one of their PoS apps. Or I was low on battery power. Then you're trying to get a taxi home and they won't stop for you because raciss, or they don't want to drive to your location.

Felt like I was gonna have a nervous breakdown and kill someone.

And that was in big cities. I would never venture into the countryside without a local.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 01:31:21 No.1031016 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031018 >>1031029 >>1031036 >>1032945

>>1030810
The same way you get by in any country when you can't speak the language!

Rural Chinese love foreigners. People driving (which was rare) would stop for me and give me lifts to the next batch of civilization.

One guy got me in his car, drove me to the four building center of his village (school/public bathroom/scrapyard/house) and over the course of two hours I had, like, a fifteen course meal. Everyone in the village came over the course of these two hours, and they brought food.

They got really drunk towards the end (I said I couldn't drink and then showed them my crucifix and they sort of got it) and dragged me out of the house where they showed me the biggest fucking pig I've ever seen in my life (picture doesn't give it justice. Thing was five feet long). I think they wanted to cook it for me, but nothing happened.

I think throughout this entire exchange all I knew how to say was "Correct, Not Correct, What is this (without understanding their answers), Rice, Tea, and Thank You." Hand-gestures and animal-like noises of cheer.

I did have a phrasebook which helped some. They ended up refusing payment for the food, which a friend later told me I really fucked them over on because in China you're supposed to refuse, but then two/three days later pay them back. Obviously, I didn't at the time. I had left.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 01:46:44 No.1031018 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031029 >>1031036

>>1031016
> in China you're supposed to refuse, but then two/three days later pay them back

Don't worry, it's not true. It's polite to refuse a few times and then reluctantly accept eventually, but they wouldn't expect you to pay them back. If you actually lived there and one person invited you out, then sure, you'd invite him out in the future, but in your situation, nobody would have expected anything from you in return.

Chinese peasants can be some of the most frustrating people in the world at times, and they can also be some of the nicest. Foreigners often give them too much shit for the way they act in my opinion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 02:52:29 No.1031029 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031036

>>1031016
>>1031018
>some of the most frustrating people in the world at times, and they can also be some of the nicest
Yeah, about this.

>>1031018
>> in China you're supposed to refuse, but then two/three days later pay them back
>Don't worry, it's not true
Also this.
It sounds like it was a home cooked meal so nobody was expecting any money from you period.

>>1031016
>over the course of two hours I had, like, a fifteen course meal. Everyone in the village came over the course of these two hours, and they brought food
This may in fact be just what everyone does every night. Or maybe just nights when there's a decent excuse to bring over whatever you're cooking and break out some baijiu.

The big community hall is a common feature of quite small communities (if not, then someone rich with a big house might do the same job as the defacto leader of the community).

Even rural peasants, if they're not dirt poor, will still cook about five dishes for every meal. Plus rice, depending on where you are.

I stayed with a family in Hubei for two weeks (was friends with the son), most nights were like that, about a dozen dishes cooked by the son or his wife or mother, rice, usually either a soup or hotpot, his father would break out baijiu almost every night.
His friends or father's friends or wife's friends would come by and sometimes join in and sometimes just drink.

They didn't do this fourteen nights in a row just to impress the foreigner (the first couple were bigger though), it's daily life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 03:49:33 No.1031036 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031040

>>1031016
>>1031018
>>1031029

samefag

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Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 04:27:23 No.1031040 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031158 >>1031214

>>1031036
Are you that anon who thinks The Hump in Kunming shills itself on 4chan? It's a great hostel btw!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 11:35:40 No.1031122 Report Delete

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>>1030979
I have lived in china but havent had any of that overwelming taxi racist thing but i have had a couple of them trying to scam me eventhough i spoke the language. I lived in Xi'an which is a preety huge city but more "inland", if you know what i mean, and i had an average of 30 finger pointings per day, can't imagine not speaking the language...
but going back to the topic, getting the bus is always an option, you wont get scammed and it costs about 20c regardless of trip distance (just avoid rush hour)

https://youtu.be/0vpX3C_OxX4

there are always buses

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Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 13:23:00 No.1031158 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031214

>>1031040
>Hump shill detected.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 14:09:01 No.1031173 Report Delete

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>>1030728
Assuming you're in to nature and mountains you should proceed to Daocheng from Shangri-La. It's a horrible bus ride (10h-13h) but well worth at it!

Going there, you'll be travelling along the Schuan-Tibet highway (running from Lhasa to Chengdu). Popular places include Yading, Litang, Tagong, Kangding.

It's not really easy travelling if you don't speak mandarin or tibetan, but I didn't speak a word when I was there and got along fine.

Visiting western Sichuan is my best travel experience, so I can't recommend it enough!

I'll happily answer more questions if you're interested.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 15:35:19 No.1031192 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031266

>>1030726
>>1030726
I've been using it and claimed my money back. Then I realized that HMA doesn't work much better either. Then I realized that there is no reliable VPN for China at all. It isn't really a matter of the VPN but rather a matter of the stability of the internet as I noticed that I could hold a connection in major cities like Guangzhou or Beijing for 2 hours straight but sometimes couldn't even connect in minor villages in the west around Xian for example. However, some porn sites did work without VPN and that's one of the reasons why I missed my $400 flight to Japan. Worst moments of my life.

Meta: I am amazed by how civilized this board is, we were talking on /r9k/ about the IQ distribution on several boards and someone recommended this one, quite interesting tbh. It's my first post here.

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Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 16:48:36 No.1031214 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031289

>>1031040
>>1031158

Well hey there, samefag!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 20:34:20 No.1031266 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031293 >>1031645

>>1031192
>However, some porn sites did work without VPN and that's one of the reasons why I missed my $400 flight to Japan.

Please don't tell me you missed your flight because you were having a wank. I'm missing something here, surely.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 22:04:21 No.1031289 Report Delete

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>>1031214
Nope, but thanks for your post.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 22:05:49 No.1031293 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031325

>>1031266
They won't let you on the plane until you are finished wanking.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 23:07:48 No.1031325 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031326

>>1031293
Fucking commies

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 10 Sep 2015 23:13:36 No.1031326 Report Delete

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>>1031325
>Fucking commies
In communist China, only fucking commies are true commies. Wanking commies are capitalist running dogs.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 02:17:33 No.1031362 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031365 >>1034518

Who else /English teacher/ here in the middle kingdom?

What are considered the "good" ESL jobs, and how do you get them? I've heard the training centers and kindergartens are hell.

Universities and international schools are supposedly the best, but pay is typically low. Still, you get a lot of free time to get privates and make money on the side, and you feel like less of a foreign monkey put on display for entertainment purposes.

Any truth to this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 02:27:41 No.1031365 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034518 >>1042839

>>1031362
Training centres aren't always that bad, but they do have a tendency to try to squeeze as many hours out of you as they can.

You're right about most universities, but wrong about international schools. International schools usually pay very well, but you usually need to have actual teaching qualifications and not just a BA and a TEFL cert to teach at them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 03:43:12 No.1031385 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031411

International schools are private schools, and they have the best salaries, but are the most competitive.

Universities are "lower" pay, not "low" pay. If you aren't living like an American in China, you have a salary (wherever you teach) that is triple your coworkers.

I work at a university, and I am paid 1,000 RMB more than one of the Chinese teachers who teaches English. I eat at the university for free, use the university wifi, and generally save 3/4 of my salary while living well.

In three years, I'll find work in the Middle East where I'll get paid 50k/60k at a university ONLY BECAUSE I'll have five years teaching experience at a university.

Only in China was I qualified to teach at a university. This is going to change as the country develops, so I would get in here quick so you have the experience and can apply it wherever you go.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 05:13:22 No.1031400 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031410 >>1045894

im an exchange student in shanghai at a university what are some ways i can make money on the side?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 05:50:39 No.1031410 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031680

>>1031400
Unnofficial English tutoring to Chinese students.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 05:55:00 No.1031411 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031417 >>1031655

>>1031385

>china
>develop

not gonna happen any time soon m8. too many people holding them back.

but yeah, I plan to apply for a university position for the Spring term, as I think it's too late for the Fall term.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 06:25:35 No.1031417 Report Delete

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>>1031411
>>develop
>not gonna happen any time soon
You haven't been paying attention.

I've been travelling to/in China on and off since '97, it's developed enormously in that time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 07:28:51 No.1031433 Report Delete

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I just bought a month subscription for VPN Ninja and it's been working flawlessly so far. Would recommend it to anyone looking at vpns to use.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 19:13:49 No.1031645 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031646 >>1031679

>>1031266
well kind of. It was my last day in Beijing and I've been at some $80/night hotel where I bought the only breakfast ever for like $15. I hate so fucking much and instead of walking around again I felt so sick that I did nothing but reading a book on my kindle. I then realized I could go for a wank instead of doing some research before leaving the room and then it was like 12am. My flight was 2pm and I thought the airport won't be longer than 30 minutes away. I asked for a taxi and they told me it takes 7 fucking hours to the airport and that the underground/train is faster. When the train drove half-way parallel to the highway I realized there was actually a huge jam on the streets. In the final train I noticed that there are 3 different terminals so I asked some lady which one to take. She ofc lead me to the wrong one and the next bus to the other terminal took like 30 minutes.

I would continue the story but my eyes started to wet writing this but that was most of the story anyway. My only hope was some upper class qt to notice my fate taking me with her flight before spending a few weeks full of expensive partying and intense sex without actually paying a dollar but that obviously didn't happen.

Never fap before leaving to the airport, plane faps are better anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 19:15:06 No.1031646 Report Delete

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>>1031645
*I hate so fucking much

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 19:36:06 No.1031655 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031666

>>1031411
>I plan to apply for a university position for the Spring term, as I think it's too late for the Fall term.
This week is the week to apply. The thousands upon thousands upon thousands of teachers universities have contracted in the earlier months?

A couple hundred of them will be insane and the university will fire them. A couple hundred of them will never show up. There are plenty of openings right now and the universities are panicking to fill them because the semester began in most places.

What you do is just Google <Chinese Region + colleges> and there will be Wikipedia page with a list of all of them. Go to all of their websites, find an email, and send them your resume.

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Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 20:53:35 No.1031666 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031689 >>1031696

>>1031655

thanks for the tip. I figured stuff like that would go down, but I didn't know to what degree. I applied to one university last month by sending an email directly, never heard back.

I guess I will spend my morning sending out resumes and hopefully get a hit.

do you mind if I ask more about your job? does the uni supply you with lesson plans, or do you do all that by yourself? if so, is it easy to develop lesson plans and can you do whatever you want with them? is the job pretty cushy and easy?

I've read that basically the unis don't even keep track of you and you can do whatever you want as long as you show up. basically they just show you your class room and say "good luck."

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 21:52:36 No.1031679 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031689

>>1031645
what the fuck

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 21:53:56 No.1031680 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031690

>>1031410
any advice on how to find people that are interested?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 22:22:06 No.1031689 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1032942

>>1031666
>mind if I ask more about your job?

Someone, I think the same anon, has answered all this in pretty considerable detail in this thread: >>1031369

Read that, I think it covers almost everything you want to know.

>>1031679
>what the fuck
4 chan.

Also, I think anon is taking the piss out of themselves to save you the trouble.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 22:23:07 No.1031690 Report Delete

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>>1031680
Word of mouth, Weibo, Wechat to a lesser extent.

Put "English tutoring" in your Wechat profile (in Chinese I guess) and walk around with your "share with nearby people" turned on.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 22:34:31 No.1031696 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031700 >>1031727

>>1031666
I mentioned it in another post, but the Business English department gave me two resources. An awful textbook that I have not looked at in two years for General English and a loose binder of probably fifty pages scanned from a dozen textbooks and just word documents for English for Accounting which I never looked at.

I arrived a week into the semester, and when I asked them what they were at (because they told me the Chinese teachers were handling the class in my absence), I was told "translations" and when I asked what part of the book I should start with (General English), the dean laughed and told me they had been waiting for me (start from the beginning of the book).

Well, both resources were such shit I used my own. While the university didn't give a single fuck about my General English lesson plans, but they were very 'eager' to have me submit my English for Accounting plans. I later learned that it costs money (SHOCK) for a school to design lesson plans, especially when it is for another language's study. Taking foreign teacher's plans is a very easy and affordable method. Fortunately, my lesson plans are so fucking vague (I just play it by ear) that they eventually stopped asking for them (demanding them) a ways into the semester.

With my university it was just as you described. A woman from the university sat in on my General English for like three days and then never showed up again, but for a while with English for Accounting.

I've taught at the same univ for two years, and last year it really felt like I didn't exist. I was rarely told about meetings which I knew were going on. Nobody asked me how the lessons were going (the dean and chinese coworkers, my foreigner coworkers are great). A lot of foreigners don't teach English at uni, and the school doesn't expect them to. There are Chinese teachers teaching English. You are just being hired because the government legally requires schools to have a native speaker.

I teach, though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 11 Sep 2015 22:42:06 No.1031700 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031727

>>1031696
I should specify that: most universities don't expect foreigners to teach English. They are handed a General English class in which the foreigner is supposed to teach "modals of conversation" which equates to talking with the students for an hour (ie. free talk).

I was actually told during my first year (never explicitly) that I should stop teaching the students. The exact hint was more like, "You have some absences in your class. Maybe if the lessons were a little more fun. Less booky!"

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Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 00:36:34 No.1031727 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031728 >>1031735 >>1034520

>>1031700
>>1031696

Hahaha. Wow. Thanks for the breakdown of that. Really appreciated.

So I could basically do whatever I want, like sit back and just assign them games or essays to write, or have them watch movies in English, and no one would complain? I'd still get paid?

All you normally do now is 'lecture' for one hour every day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 00:54:50 No.1031728 Report Delete

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>>1031727
It depends entirely on the school. Most of the time, however, the Chinese teachers are responsible for teaching grammar, vocabulary, listening and reading skills, ect. ect. The foreign teachers are hired because there is a law that requires them, not because they are valued.

However, that is not always the case. Considering how large China is and how many schools there are (not to mention I have only taught at one school), I cannot tell you that you can fuck around and do whatever you want.

I can tell you, however, that you can assign them pretty much whatever you want, but know that if you assign stuff they don't like and the students stop showing up, the uni will step in. I love Kurosawa, but I would never assign a Japanese film. I also like anime some (haven't watched a new show in at least five years, but I still like it), but I would never have my students work on it.

Also, I do not lecture. With CELTA, you are taught, "fuck lectures." You try to speak as little as possible. Let the students talk and practice their English for 40 minutes and you instruct for 20. I create handouts for whatever I need (steal from Google). I won't get into specifics, but there is a process CELTA teaches, and I follow it. It is student-centered which is probably the only reason the uni allows me to 'teach' instead of do an hour of free talk. Also, free talk is not a lecture. It is having a conversation with your students for an hour. Opposite of lecture. Again, I just try to incite arguments and speak as little as possible.

One lesson (relating back to games or movies, whatever) I did was on adjectives for appearance and because I have a class full of horny college students the lesson revolved around the perfect woman and man. The freer activity (free activity is like... open ended discussion problem activity with no specific right or wrong answer) was to practice flirting with your ideal match. The rest of the lesson built up to this.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 01:29:35 No.1031735 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031763

>>1031727
>So I could basically do whatever I want, like sit back and just assign them games or essays to write, or have them watch movies in English, and no one would complain?

Like the other guy said, it depends on your university. I work at one too (along with 2 other foreigners), and mine is similar in some ways (95% of the time I'm just left alone), but I'm also expected to carry out a few assignments and examinations. The students also give anonymous feedback to my supervisor at the end of each semester, so if I just did what you did, I probably wouldn't keep the job longer than one term.

I'd encourage you not to do what you said though, since English teachers do already have a bad reputation among many people in China, and your students WILL look down on you if you're a lazy fucker (although not to your face of course). I've talked to lots of English students from other universities and about half of them say that their foreign teachers are lazy sacks of shit when I question them about it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 01:54:14 No.1031742 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031752 >>1031792

Any advice on visiting Tibet? How to get there, best way to tour etc. Wanting to go there but all the initial information about traveling there seems very complicated.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 02:13:03 No.1031752 Report Delete

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>>1031742
>Tibet
>traveling there seems very complicated

A little bit. I haven't been but what I keep hearing is that you go to somewhere nearby like Chengdu or Kunming and then arrange a group visa/tour via a travel agent or the hostels in those cities.

As far as I know, independent travel in Tibet is more or less illegal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 02:30:51 No.1031763 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1031780

>>1031735

They'd probably say the same about you. Chinese and Asians in general are two-faced fucks.

How exactly do they expect you to be a good, engaging and fun teacher, if, like the guy above you said, they don't want you to go by the book and be a genuine teacher? They're fucking morons.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 04:41:36 No.1031780 Report Delete

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>>1031763
>How exactly do they expect you to be a good, engaging and fun teacher, if, like the guy above you said, they don't want you to go by the book and be a genuine teacher? They're fucking morons.
Well yes, you're getting a higher salary than almost any other employee in the whole country, so they do expect you to be some kind of wizard.

Bungle

Bungle Sat 12 Sep 2015 05:38:41 No.1031792 Report Delete

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>>1031742
Check ahead about whether it's open to tourists. I met some travelers in Kunming heading from Shanghai to Tibet and they found out only then that it was closed at the time. They were really disappointed as it was their primary destination on their trip. Kinda funny in retrospect, but it pays to check ahead about getting the tourist pass to go there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 12 Sep 2015 05:42:57 No.1031793 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1032039 >>1032040 >>1032127 >>1035032

>>1030719
Has anyone been to Urumqi or Xinjiang in general? Would it be advisable for a white American to tour this region? I can't help it, Urumqi seems like an interesting city and the Uyghurs might be bro-tier friends amongst foreigners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2015 00:22:05 No.1032039 Report Delete

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>>1031793
>Uyghurs might be bro-tier friends
You should be fine, I've known a few English teachers who did tours there.

They said they had a great time, loved the Uyghur people but that the Uyghur were terribly oppressed.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2015 00:23:05 No.1032040 Report Delete

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>>1031793
>been to Urumqi or Xinjiang in general?
You do need to check whether you'll be able to get in, I think it's sometimes closed to foreigners like Tibet.

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Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2015 07:27:52 No.1032119 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034154 >>1036063

Any documents or guides on learning Mandarin like in the Japan threads?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 13 Sep 2015 08:15:59 No.1032127 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1031793
Urumqi is actually pretty boring, but that hot hell-hole place that is just south-east is fantastic,hottest place in china, but has some of the most amazing scenery,food and culture.I found the english speaking ability of the locals in the region to be a surprise, they are better at it then anywhere outside shenzen,beijing or shanghai.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2015 06:37:28 No.1032427 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1032450

>1032127
>hot hell-hole place that is just south-east

Are you talking about Gansu or somewhere in Xinjiang?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 14 Sep 2015 08:33:59 No.1032450 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1032427
I'm talking about turpan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2015 04:19:00 No.1032942 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1032976

>>1031689
everything I said was perfectly true I swear

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2015 04:39:43 No.1032945 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1032976

>>1031016

>they showed me the biggest fucking pig I've ever seen in my life
this is the real subconscious reason why i go traveling

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 16 Sep 2015 08:40:16 No.1032976 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034467

>>1032945
>giant pig
>subconscious reason why i go traveling
Can you explain that last part?

>>1032942
>perfectly true
I wasn't meaning the "only a fool would believe" thing, which is a good thing to keep in mind but what I meant was that there are a lot of "what the fuck" people on 4chan. We're a weird lot.

By taking the piss, I meant your comment about finding an upper class chinese qt meme etc.

It's all cool anon.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Sep 2015 23:05:47 No.1034127 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034128 >>1034505 >>1035079

Hey /trv/,

I did some cycling in Mt Taihang Canyon yesterday.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Sep 2015 23:09:42 No.1034128 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034129 >>1035079

>>1034127
Taihang Shan is in Henan province, near a large town called Linzhou.

It was developed to be a huge tourist attraction but it never succeeded so there are all these massive hotels here which are almost empty, lots of bit hotels that are closed or resorts that only got half built.

The hostel probably has about 200 beds but I think there are only about 10 people staying here, I have dorm to myself because it's 1/3 the price of a private room. The place is massive but feels deserted.

The canyon here is the main attraction, there are paragliding schools nearby too.

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Anonymous Sat 19 Sep 2015 23:11:26 No.1034129 Report Delete

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>>1034128
There are parks here and there where you can climb mountains too, I did this one yesterday, took about three hours and included a few peaks like this one.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 01:33:29 No.1034154 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034194

>>1032119
Google is your friend, otherwise an app called ChineseSkill has been very helpful.

I love this thread :)

I've been dating this Chinese woman for two years now and we're probably going to travel to China for like 6 months when the time comes, I think I'm lucky because I can visit places I otherwise couldn't with my Chinese speaking best friend by my side.

I do web development for a living but I'm not sure if that's a marketable skill over there for a foreigner, I was thinking that if I go there I maybe set up a website offering private lessons or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 06:41:15 No.1034192 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034222

Why the fuck is leaving Shanghai for a flight to NA so fucking expensive?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 06:55:27 No.1034194 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034222

>>1034154
>web development ... a marketable skill over there for a foreigner
It's not but you wouldn't be the first one to work on the road. Post a throwaway email.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 09:26:01 No.1034222 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1034194
>>1034192

i dunno mang. it's $900 from NYC to BJ roundtrip.

my friend wants to come to the US, he has family in virgina. a plane ticket from his work place in Indonesia to Washington, D.C. is fucking $6000. he's just going to come to NY and take the amtrack south.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 14:20:46 No.1034321 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034325 >>1034458

What's a good phone data sim and VPN for china?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 20 Sep 2015 14:50:24 No.1034325 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034458

>>1034321
What's Google?

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Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 00:59:33 No.1034458 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1034321
>What's a good phone data sim and VPN for china?
>>1034325
>What's Google?
Fuck google, what's this thread?

Anon needs to fucking read.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 01:33:23 No.1034467 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1032976
>Can you explain that last part?

I can
It's hyperbolic reaction syntax in the context of "that was random"

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 07:34:21 No.1034504 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034512 >>1034514

我在北京留学,我和我朋友们要趁国庆节去旅行,可能去蒙古,去比较近的俄罗斯城市,也可能去香港。不过,我们必须申请签证吗?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 07:35:31 No.1034505 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034512 >>1035101

>>1034127

hey how much did you get for that bike

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 08:18:00 No.1034512 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035011

>>1034504
>我在北京留学,我和我朋友们要趁国庆节去旅行,可能去蒙古,去比较近的俄罗斯城市,也可能去香港。不过,我们必须申请签证吗?

> Do I need a visa to go to Russia, Hong Kong or Mongolia?

Depends on your nationality. Probably for everything except Hong Kong. Ask the embassies. Visa advice varies between countries and passports.

>>1034505
>hey how much did you get for that bike
Haven't sold it, what are you talking about?
Are you implying I stole it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 08:21:00 No.1034514 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035011

>>1034504
Depends on your country. Some nationalities can visit China without a visa for example. Most can't. Just search "visa requirements for [your country] citizens" and check the wikipedia page, or check the the respective embassies.

Also, why did you even ask in Chinese lol.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 08:44:32 No.1034518 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1034737

>>1031362
>>1031365
Pretty much. My friends at international schools make more, and work more. Usually they work 9am to 6pm Saturdays and sundays, for the working students.

I got a job with a reputable company. Pay is average, but I only work about 10 hours a week. I'm in a big enough city that the opportunity for privates is decent. I could triple my salary and still work 30 hours a week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 21 Sep 2015 08:59:44 No.1034520 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035231

>>1031727
I teach in a high school, I could literally put on a movie in every class and still get paid. Most school officials ignore me completely.

However, I'm not an asshole, I care about the students. I set up lessons that help them practice their vocab and speech (conversationally, I don't care about grammar as long as I can understand them), and I make sure it's always fun. These kids are in school 14 hours a day, they deserve some fun classes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 22 Sep 2015 05:45:05 No.1034737 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035760

>>1034518
>Pay is average, but I only work about 10 hours a week
What is average pay for 10 hours a week?
How many days is that? 2 hour classes/five days a week?
And what city is this?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 04:35:29 No.1034990 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035007 >>1035012 >>1035079 >>1035086 >>1035119

I am currently studying in Zhejiang, and my friends and I have been starting to plan for travelling outside the city for the golden week holidays.

I know most attractive places are gonna be heavily crowded. Our two contenders right now are Huangshan Mountains and Shanghai.

Does anyone have experience of travelling to these destinations or just generally in China during the holidays? Is it tolerable, or is it better to just stay at home? What kind of price may we expect for a 2-3 day trip?

Thanks in advance

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 12:03:47 No.1035007 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035086 >>1035178

>>1034990
Shanghai is a nice city, especially at night with all the city lights. Why city are you in? I was in China around this time two years ago and it was really nice, decently warm weather. I went to the Lingshan Buddha near Wuxi on a clear day and the view from the top was amazing -- but it's sort of a tourist trap and isn't really "authentic".

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 12:23:38 No.1035011 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035086 >>1035092 >>1035119

>>1034512
>Depends on your nationality.
>>1034514
>Depends on your country.

I have US passport, friend has Indonesian passport. I already paid 1150kuai to change my visa from tourist to student, so unless I can get by without a visa, then I suppose it's useless to go.

>Also, why did you even ask in Chinese lol.

Because it stands out in this thread, and the people who actually know Mandarin and live in China are more likely to respond.

Also getting easier for me to write/speak. Still can't 听懂了 for shit though.

>>1034512
>Are you implying I stole it?

Implying nothing. How much did you buy it for?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 12:28:21 No.1035012 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035178

>>1034990

It's not worth it to travel. A billion chinks all travel during this holiday. The trains will be jam-packed, airplanes will be a fuckin nightmare. Remember the news stories about chinks that opened emergency doors as the plane was taking off, or old grannies throwing scolding hot water on stewardesses? Parents letting their kids shit in the aisle?

It'll be like that except times 50

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 14:42:47 No.1035032 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I just want to advertise Hunan and Guangxi itt. Nicest people, really.

>>1031793
I'd like to relay a message from a half Han half Tibetan guy living in Guilin:
"Don't go to the East, there's only people in the East. Go to Western China, it doesn't have people!" [a few seconds pass] "And beautiful landscapes."

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Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 20:50:46 No.1035079 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035178

>>1034990
>starting to plan for travelling outside the city for the golden week holidays
You've left it a bit late but I guess you can still manage something.

It probably won't be too hard to get a room somewhere but you might not get your first or second choice. Don't be too choosy and expect everything to increase their prices for that week.

>>1034990
>Huangshan Mountains and Shanghai
I wouldn't go to either place during Golden Week tbh, the Bund and Huangshan will both be packed. The Bund will be wall-to-wall tourists and you'll have to fight through crowds, Huangshan will be constant streams of people up and down the stairs all day. It is normally but you have quiet bits here and there, especially once you get away from the cable car stations and there won't be any quiet parts during Golden Week. Also the dorms on top of the mountain, which are already really expensive, will be completely full, so you can only do a day-trip there anyway.

This is doing the rounds on wechat:
"10 places in China you MUSTN'T visit during the National holiday"
http://mp.weixin.qq.com/s?__biz=MzI5NjAyODgyMg==&mid=209832990&idx=1&sn=4cccb5f3f120bb2fc6e67556a4652df8
It's memerific but relevant to your interests.

Find somewhere second or third tier that is under-appreciated. For my money, I'd try Linzhou in Henan, I just got back from a week of cycling, climbing and flying Taihang canyon and I think it's great. Also the YHA hostel right next to the nature and aviation stuff and is ridiculously good value, it would be the best hostel for facilities anywhere and it's also cheap.

>>1034127
>>1034128
>>1034129
This is Taihang Canyon. I also went Paragliding over it too, the hostel can hook you up with tandem flights if you can afford to splurge a bit (700RMB/flight). You could spend a week and learn to paraglide but it would set you back 5k RMB.

Thinking about Zhejiang province, most of the places I've been would still be packed.

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Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 21:08:24 No.1035086 Report Delete

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>>1035011
>Implying nothing. How much did you buy it for?
Then you mean "how much did I get it for".

"How much did I get for it?", is asking how much I sold it for. Which makes it sound like I stole it to sell and was just joyriding it or something. Same words, different order, opposite meaning.

Anyway, I bought it for 2000RMB in Shenzhen. Just walked into a random bike store and asked for their biggest folding bicycle that still had 20' wheels, because that's what is allowed on most metros (not Shanghai though). It's also about the biggest that can be bagged up and taken on high speed trains.

>>1035011
>US passport, friend has Indonesian passport
Both of you probably don't need a visa for HK, or for Mongolia. You should both double-check though, /trv/ can only give suggestions about visas, it's terrible to ask here instead of an embassy.

>>1034990
>Zhejiang
Places to see in Zhejiang:
Hangzhou (which you probably live in)
Suzhou
Wuxi (Jiangsu actually but close)
Ningbo
Putuoshan
Wenzhou

Places that might not be packed with people:
Wenzhou

In Wenzhou, you can go hiking up in the mountains around the city, that would be cool and probably not have many tourists doing the same thing. If you go, there are two expat hangouts, one in a dive bar beneath a dodgy arcade and one in a Canadian pub, I think the wiki has both places. The dive bar is more popular and much cheaper.

>>1035007
>Lingshan Buddha
You mean the one built for the Buddhist convention a few years ago? Yeah, not that great I don't think. Wuxi is kind of polluted too so I'm not sure how good the view is. That park north of the one hostel and next to the restored old town has a good view too, might be cheaper. pic related.

I liked the Three Kingdoms park. Obviously not 'authentic' but cool. It's a theme park built on the sets for a TV show of Three Kingdoms from the 70s or something. The 'sets' are basically complete buildings, palaces, estates, a small fishing village, even a prison.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 21:36:08 No.1035092 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035086
>>>1035011
>>US passport, friend has Indonesian passport
>Both of you probably don't need a visa for HK, or for Mongolia
Oh yeah, you also need to check that you have multiple entry for China, otherwise you can't leave without getting a new Chinese visa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 21:42:48 No.1035093 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035101

>>1035086
Not him, but assuming English isn't your first language, often times sentences are simplified in idle conversation, relying on context for the meaning to be accurately conveyed. As your selling the bike was not mentioned anywhere, it was assumed you would understand he was asking how much that bicycle cost you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 22:39:43 No.1035101 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035115

>>1035093
>English isn't your first language
I think he was the one with non-native English.

This was his quote:
>>1034505
>hey how much did you get for that bike

In English, that clearly means "For how much did you sell that bike?". There isn't an alternate interpretation of that sentence structure in English.

It's not very good English but the meaning is fairly unambiguous as to a reference to receiving money in exchange, not in giving it. To provide the buying interpretation, the sentence structure needs the preposition to be at the start of the 'sentence', which begins at 'how' if you punctuated it properly, though the formal correctness would make you sound Indian or maybe private school. You could also end the sentence on the proposition for a casually correct sentence that might make some English teachers twitch: "How much did you get that bike for?".

It would be way clearly if anon used some punctuation and the word 'buy'.

"Hey, how much did you buy that bike for?"

>>1035093
>selling the bike was not mentioned
Neither was buying it, there was no context.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 23 Sep 2015 23:29:34 No.1035115 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035101
Considering the context of your post and the picture, it is assumed you own it or are renting it. In colloquial English, "how much did you get" can refer to deals. What kind of deal did you get for that bike?

Nobody thought he was asking you about selling the bike because, despite the 'ambiguity' of the post there was no indication that you had made money off of the bike. One could wonder, however, how much the bike cost simply from the picture.

In short, I have no idea why you would think he would think you had sold the bike.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 00:04:57 No.1035119 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035178 >>1035274

>>1035011
Your Chinese visa has no effect on your visa in other countries. Tourist visa, work visa, business visa, marriage visa - it doesn't matter. All that matters is your passport. Mongolia/Russia etc don't care if you're working in China or studying there. Just make sure your Chinese visa has multiple entries, otherwise you'll need to reapply before coming back to China.

>>1035086
>Wenzhou

Are you here too?

It's alright living here but I wouldn't really recommend visiting as a tourist. There's very little here other than a bunch of average/not bad mountains.

You could also try Linhai, which is an old town near Taizhou (close to Wenzhou) and Shaoxing (which I haven't been to, but is meant to be like a quieter version of Suzhou).

>>1034990
Stay away from any mountains during holidays. Mountains suck during weekends and are absolute hell on earth during holidays.

Shanghai would probably be fine if you stay away from the bund/museums etc. Lots of people will visit there, but lots of people will leave too, and Shanghai is big enough to absorb huge numbers of tourists. It wouldn't be a bad idea to just go there, avoid sightseeing and just hang out for a few days.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 00:52:43 No.1035128 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035141

I got an offer from my professor to spend the spring semester in Beijing, to progress my Chinese language development as rapidly as possible before I graduate.

Tuition I can cover, nbd, but is cost of living high in Beijing? For reference my current rent is $545/mo and I probably spend about ~$200/mo in food.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 01:32:13 No.1035141 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035128
It would probably cost more in Beijing than that. Even if you live away from the city center, you'll just end up burdened with transportation costs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 03:45:51 No.1035161 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035881 >>1035882

I'm wondering if I could become a fake psychologist in China. I know you can fake almost anything there if you have a decent-looking white face. My dream is to have my own little office in a major Chinese city (and a couple sexy Chinese secretaries) and diagnose people's problems and help them, but I don't have a psychology degree, lol.

Are psychologists even in demand in China/Asia? I guess Asians aren't really comfortable venting their problems out in the open like Westerners are.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 05:32:30 No.1035178 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035119
>>1035007
>>1035012
>>1035079
>>1035086

Thanks for the responses guys.

Yeah, I'm living in Hangzhou. I am well aware that the planning is a bit late. We were originally intending not to do anything, but a friend of mine had a few ideas.

From what I've understood, it is close to inevitable to find a not-so-crowded place during the holidays. It might be better to just stay at home and try to travel during non-holidays instead. It's not like we want to pay for expensive accomodation/food/travelling costs just to stare at chinese persons neck for 95% of the time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 10:38:28 No.1035231 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035760

>>1034520

I'm supposed to teach a small class of chinese high school students on the side.

I'm going to be given a book, but other than that I don't have a clue about what I'm going to teach them.

Any advice for me? I was just gonna go over some lessons in the book and maybe throw in a movie to kill a good chunk of time.

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Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 11:55:37 No.1035245 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035286 >>1035326 >>1035883 >>1036452

Why do chinese girls use me for sex but won't become a steady or girlfriend

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 13:24:28 No.1035274 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035119
>>Wenzhou
>Are you here too?
No, I just visited a few months ago. Had some over-priced poutine in the Canadian pub but I preferred the weird dive bar under the arcade in that circular business mall place.

Met a loli who talked a lot about Wenzhou with me and asked for my wechat but I couldn't convince her to teach me any Wenzhou-ese :(

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 14:23:47 No.1035286 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035326 >>1035346

>>1035245
>won't become a steady or girlfriend
Probably because you're too embarrassing or disrespectful for them to want their friends or family to meet you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 15:46:55 No.1035326 Report Delete

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>>1035245
I don't want to rub salt in your wounds, but >>1035286

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Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 17:28:19 No.1035346 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035350 >>1036452

>>1035286

embarrassing how?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 17:49:35 No.1035350 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035346
Why don't you tell us?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 21:32:45 No.1035382 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035392

Do I really need vaccinations if I'm only visiting Beijing and Shanghai?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 22:19:31 No.1035392 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035382
>Do I really need vaccinations if I'm only visiting Beijing and Shanghai?
Only the ones that everyone should have for everywhere.

Get Hep B, Hep A if you don't already have immunity, stuff like that. Those are good even if you never leave your own country and will help if you just eat dirty food some time.

You don't need anything else for those cities.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 24 Sep 2015 23:27:25 No.1035410 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035423

>be me
>be booking a hostel
>read description

"Welcome to DengfengShaolin international youth hostel. Our hostel is located at downtown of Dengfeng, which is adjacent to Mount Songshan and just two kilometres away from Songyang College. With Chinese classical decoration style, to some extent, our hostel is comfortable and gorgeous rather than safe and clean."

>With Chinese classical decoration style, to some extent, our hostel is comfortable and gorgeous rather than safe and clean
>comfortable and gorgeous rather than safe and clean

o.0

Truth in advertising I guess.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2015 00:24:39 No.1035423 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035410
>comfortable and gorgeous rather than safe and clean
RealTraveller approved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2015 04:39:52 No.1035465 Report Delete

Quoted By:

What are the smaller cities like during the National Day holiday?

I know Shanghai/Beijing empties out during this time because all the farmer fuckin hicks go back to their shitholes to see their families... Does that mean all the tier 2 cities will be crowded like crazy and tons of activity/noise will be going on all night and day for the entire week?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2015 06:52:42 No.1035498 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Anyone here live in shanghai? Its so hard to get a reading of what rents are online...
What are the rents in inner city, i dont mean like inner inner nangjinlu, and what about more outside? I think its doable to live some 15km away as long as you are near a subway line...

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2015 09:08:49 No.1035526 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035562

Anyone ever got a sleeper train from Shanghai to Hong Kong? what's it like? think i'd rather do that than get the fast train to Guangzhou and then have to go through the Guangzhou metro and another train after that.

or is Guangzhou itself worth stopping off for a day?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2015 09:43:43 No.1035541 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I teach English in Beijing and want to design a (thoroughly drunken) scavenger hunt for myself and some of my co-workers who are staying in the city through the holiday.

What are your best suggestions for inane things to photograph or acquire? Proximity to a metro station is a huge plus.

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Anonymous Fri 25 Sep 2015 11:46:46 No.1035562 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035526
>Guangzhou worth stopping off for a day
I think so.

It's not amazing but there's definitely things to see. There is probably the best yumcha in the world, I could point you at some places.

pic related but before most of the yumcha stuff arrived.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 05:58:55 No.1035760 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035764

>>1034737
I make 6500/mo, that's the high-end of average, a lot of companies start you out at 4500-5500 for the first year. I know people working in Uni's that make over 10k/mo. But the average job is actually 25 hours a week. I guess I lucked out, because my friends in the company work more hours than me (I don't tell them that, lol).

The China school schedule is kind of weird. I teach grade 1 (15 yr olds) one week and grade 2 (16 yr olds) the next, alternating every week. Grade 1 I teach 4 days a week, 2-4 classes a day. Grade 2 I teach 6 days a week, 1-4 classes per day. My classes are 40 minutes each.

>>1035231
It depends on what you want to help them with. If you want to help them with actually speaking and listening English, you can probably skip the book. From what I've seen, Chinese textbooks on Oral English suck, because there is no Oral component to them. I rarely use mine. The students will also find the textbook boring.

I try to mix it up. The schools here are like prisons, the kids deserve to learn in a fun environment. I set up lessons that focus on talking, and are centered on what they actually want to talk about and will actually talk about in English-speaking countries. Topics include dating, food, and entertainment. If you talk about these, classes should be energetic and smooth.

Besides that, google some blogs from other TEFL teachers. They have much more experience than me.

I don't recommend movies. They won't get anything out of it, because you have to speak slowly for them to comprehend, movies don't do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 06:11:25 No.1035764 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035760
Any teacher worth his or her salt will be supplementing 'official' material with their own on a regular basis.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 09:10:22 No.1035796 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035815 >>1036726

How do you differentiate great girls wanting to have sex with you from scammers?

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLnomKWGvsVJ3QKGC4PUxwRlIAbXl_HJOG

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 10:45:04 No.1035815 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1035919

>>1035796
How do you do that at home?

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 15:17:34 No.1035881 Report Delete

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>>1035161
I am an actual psychologist willing to open a private practice in China.. your post made me laugh.

But I like the spirit.

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 15:18:56 No.1035882 Report Delete

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>>1035161
who would be your clients; Chinese or expats?

and how would you find them?

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 15:20:21 No.1035883 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035245
because you can't buy them a house

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Anonymous Sat 26 Sep 2015 17:50:59 No.1035919 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1036726

>>1035815
No one tries to scam me at home.

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Anonymous Sun 27 Sep 2015 09:10:41 No.1036063 Report Delete

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>>1032119
/int/ wiki has a pretty extensive one.

I know because I wrote a good chunk of it.

Probably a bit outdated now though, haven't looked at it in a while

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Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2015 10:11:43 No.1036452 Report Delete

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>>1035346
>>1035245

Goddamnit it happened again, bros

I met a young university student, fucked her, she spent the night at my apartment. She even said "I love you, I really like u"" and held my hand all night while we fell asleep. Then when I walked her out in the morning she locked arms with me. I gave her a nice, long kiss goodbye. She wanted to make plans to see me again.

So I send her a text later today to meet tonight or tomorrow and she said she has class and can't meet, and basically blows me off. REEEEEEEEE, this fucking sucks bros. I want a goddamn chinky GF.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2015 10:32:27 No.1036460 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1036480

IIRC from a college class China's official language is Mandarin but a large pat of people also speak Cantonese. What parts of China mostly speak Mandarin? I want to avoid the Cantonese areas.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2015 12:20:34 No.1036478 Report Delete

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>>1036452
>So I send her a text later today
>Not waiting the industry standard two days
It's like you've never seen a movie.

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Anonymous Mon 28 Sep 2015 12:21:47 No.1036480 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1036460
>IIRC from a college class China's official language is Mandarin
Congratulations, you win fucking nothing.

>>1036460
>What parts of China mostly speak Mandarin?
Everywhere.

And everywhere speaks other dialects too but you won't learn or need them.

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Anonymous Tue 29 Sep 2015 02:36:53 No.1036726 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1035919
>>1035796
polite bump

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Anonymous Tue 29 Sep 2015 03:37:08 No.1036738 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1036834 >>1037068 >>1037249

WTF guys, I've been here over a month, haven't had so much as a date. Am I spending too much time on the high school campus? Do I really need to be fluent in Mandarin to attract the hotties at the vocational school across the street?

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Anonymous Tue 29 Sep 2015 04:17:55 No.1036745 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1036754

if I was going to be staying at hostels and travelling all across china for 3 months or so, how big of a backpack would I need, and how much clothes?

any recommendations? or could someone lead me in the right direction? I need it to be somewhat minimalst, I really like the Goruck GR2, but it's too expensive

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Anonymous Tue 29 Sep 2015 04:41:10 No.1036754 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1036759

>>1036745
What season?

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Anonymous Tue 29 Sep 2015 05:17:20 No.1036759 Report Delete

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>>1036754
Winter

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Anonymous Tue 29 Sep 2015 13:27:49 No.1036834 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1037011 >>1037068

>>1036738

you should've been white. I guess you got duped into thinking your race could get laid in china

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Anonymous Tue 29 Sep 2015 21:18:01 No.1036962 Report Delete

Quoted By:

How are techno/EDM festivals in China?

Are they good to meet & pull girls from and get laid?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2015 02:01:36 No.1037011 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1036834
I am white. I also make ~6 times the average salary. I'm also /fit/.

Maybe its the spaghetti.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2015 08:08:53 No.1037068 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1036738
>haven't had so much as a date. Am I spending too much time on the high school campus

>high school campus
Probably just as well you haven't had any dates.

>>1036834
gb2 /pol/

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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2015 20:45:26 No.1037229 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Is anyone in Taiyuan?
Or have anything nice to say about it?

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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2015 21:53:22 No.1037249 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1036738
>WTF guys, I've been here over a month, haven't had so much as a date

I guess you should talk to this anon: >>1036452

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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2015 22:24:22 No.1037265 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1037269

have the opportunity to attend HKU or HKUST next fall. which one?

note: i speak no chinese

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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2015 22:35:09 No.1037269 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1037271

>>1037265
>i speak no chinese
Shouldn't matter in HK. Not much anyway.

Wouldn't hurt to learn some Cantonese, it will make life quite a bit easier but you can get by without it if you have to.

I can't speak for the Universities.

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Anonymous Wed 30 Sep 2015 22:39:00 No.1037271 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1037297 >>1043326 >>1043336

>>1037269
okay, ill probably spend the summer learning the basics.

kind of a silly question, but do you have any idea what females in hong kong think about middle eastern men? i'm 6' egyptian/french and persian/russian

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2015 00:42:18 No.1037297 Report Delete

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>>1037271
>6' egyptian/french and persian/russian
Probably ok.

There are shitloads of Indians there that piss people off in TST but you shouldn't be mistaken for them so it's probably normal for you. Bonus if you look like you might be related to a sheik or something.

The only thing that really matters in HK, is how rich you look. It's a very wealth obsessed society. If you scrub up ok and look kind of metro-sexual then that's a bonus. French culture is highly regarded, red wine is very common in HK and French restaurants are where movies always set their romance scenes, stuff like that. It's an international place.

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Anonymous Thu 01 Oct 2015 21:50:59 No.1037561 Report Delete

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What's your guys' notch count in China?

I feel like I'm doing somewhat poorly only banging 1-2 (3 if I'm lucky) new girls a month. I have acquaintances that tell me and hear of people getting 1-2 new girls or more a WEEK, but they're usually good looking, clean-shaven, metro-ish. I really can't tell if they're lying or not.

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Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2015 01:27:53 No.1037597 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1037599

>tfw spend 1150元 to change my visa from tourist to student and only get single-entry
>indonesian friend spends 500元 and gets multiple entry

privilege of being an american.

next time i'm just going to the 公安部办公室 instead of letting my host uni handle it.

anyway, i need some advice. currently i'm studying in beijing for the fall semester, which is supposed to be my last. but i've met some really people here, and i'm thinking, if i take the HSK and get a scholarship, i can afford to come back next semester. there's like 20 brit students here who took HSK and scored level 3 or 4, and get a scholarship that provides free housing (in the second most shit dorm) along with 2500元 every month.

their mandarin is actually not that good, and if they scored a scholarship from HSK with their current level, then surely i can get something as good if not better?

i'm not too familiar with HSK, because i first learned about it through /int/. the plan i'm formulating is i take the test here asap, have my results processed in time for next semester and then apply for another extension to study here?

i'd appreciate any comments or help on this.

also, hope you guys are having a good 国庆节。

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Anonymous Fri 02 Oct 2015 01:35:37 No.1037599 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039220

>>1037597

well fuck i just learned that i missed the registration date at my host uni.

i don't suppose it's possible to take the HSK at another test center but still get a scholarship?

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Anonymous Sun 04 Oct 2015 06:10:40 No.1038255 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1038924

bump

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Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2015 00:30:28 No.1038924 Report Delete

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>>1038255

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Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2015 01:58:49 No.1038938 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039162

Ded thread

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Anonymous Tue 06 Oct 2015 20:10:23 No.1039162 Report Delete

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>>1038938
It's golden week, most of us are on holiday. I just got back to civilisation. Been off climbing mountains and things.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 03:03:49 No.1039220 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039223

>>1037599
>possible to take the HSK at another test center
Sorry, I don't know shit about HSK.

So, how was everyone's national holiday week?

I did most of north Shānxī, pic related.

I liked the Zhangbi tunnel and the views from Wutaishan are pretty awesome, especially the east plateau.

Anyone else do anything interesting?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 03:48:20 No.1039222 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039223 >>1039225 >>1039238

>>1039162
Where'd you go, bud?

>5 days in Xi'an
>5 days in Chengdu

Cut Chengdu short to return to Xi'an, bro-tierest of West China cities

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 03:51:50 No.1039223 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039565

>>1039222
>Where'd you go, bud?
Wutaishan, Hengshan, Pingyao, the grottos at Datong...a few other places.

This was me: >>1039220

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 04:07:36 No.1039225 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039227 >>1039263 >>1039565

>>1039222
>Cut Chengdu short to return to Xi'an
Did you take a day trip to Ermaishan?
Pandas are cool obviously, not sure what else there is to do in Chengdu.

Other than the walls, muslim quarter and warriors, what is there to do in and around Xi'an?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 04:15:11 No.1039227 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039567

>>1039225
Huashan baby,huashan!

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 04:52:13 No.1039238 Report Delete

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>>1039222

what did you like about Xi'an so much?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 07:33:03 No.1039263 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039496

>>1039225
>Huashan baby
Oh, didn't realise that was so close to Xi'an. I vaguely remember that. Yeah, Huashan is pretty cool.
Did you go over Green Dragon Back Ridge? That was pretty scary.

pic related

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 18:43:20 No.1039443 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039459

Best area to stay in Hong Kong for 6 days? Everything says Kowloon but I want my 4chan bros opinion thanks.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 20:09:39 No.1039459 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1039443
>Hong Kong
Check the two HK threads in the archive.
>>1033758
>>1035073

Neither are exactly what you want though but just good reading anyway.

I would generally say Kowloon too unless you are happy spending money. Hong Kong Island is better in many ways but is much more expensive. If you aren't splashing out then cheap hotels are available in places like Jordan (or really cheap and terrible ones in Chungking Mansions etc).

If you are then the Island is the place to be.

If you're a backpacker then there are hostels in both places. Checkinn in Wanchai is good value and very well located and Urban Pack in TST is too.

For me, I consider proximity to Lan Kwai Fong to be of paramount importance.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 22:31:45 No.1039495 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039501

Different guy asking about HK

Can I get a cheap smart phone in HK, like iphone 5 or 6, for under $500? Or would it be cheaper to buy in the Mainland?

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 22:40:07 No.1039496 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1039263
All I really remember is the plank walk and the crowds.

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Anonymous Wed 07 Oct 2015 22:57:58 No.1039501 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1039495
>cheaper to buy in the Mainland
Yes but if you want to use it outside China then you're probably better off with a HK purchase for warranty etc.

Check somewhere like Golden Plaza in Sham shui po. There are also shitloads of phone shops in the streets either side of Nathan Rd there. Make sure you do a good walk around SSP and you'll see where they all are.

>>1039495
>cheap smart phone in HK, like iphone 5 or 6
Cheap smart phones are androids. You can probably get iphones for less than elsewhere though.

A few years ago in China, someone tried to sell me a cheap iphone that was really an android with a custom OS and fake iPhone case. I nearly bought it for the comedy value.

I don't think you'll get any decent phone for HKD$500 but if you mean USD$500 then sure, that's HKD$3800 and a good smartphone could be just half of that.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 03:59:40 No.1039565 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039567 >>1039569

>>1039223
How was Pingyao? I'm considering spending a weekend there. Tourist trap or worth it?

>>1039225
I saw the pandas, it was the best part of the city by far, I pet a red panda! All the trains to Leshan/Ermeishan were booked due to the holiday, I couldn't see the Buddha.

>Other than the walls, muslim quarter and warriors, what is there to do in and around Xi'an?
Those are the big spots, but there's loads of history. Xi'an was the capital for 3,000 years, end of the Silk Road, it's a hub of ancient culture. Museums, ancient structures, day trips to other ancient towns. Here's a map I use in the city.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 04:06:08 No.1039567 Report Delete

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>>1039565
Forgot pic.

>>1039227
Agreed, Hua Mountain is one of China's top 5. Try to stay overnight to see the sunset/sunrise.

>>1039238
I like cities and rural areas equally, I like mountains and plains equally. Xi'an allows me to visit all of those pretty easily (despite the lack of bullet trains currently stopping here). Also, Xi'an is quite a bit calmer and cleaner than the other cities I've been to in China, so I'm having a great time living here. But hey, I've only been here 2 months.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 04:13:04 No.1039569 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039570 >>1039572

>>1039565
>Pingyao?
Tourist trap or worth it?
Pic related

It's a really good example of an old town. You've seen them before but this is bigger and better and has some rather impressive city walls that are almost entirely original (a bit fell down on the south wall apparently and was rebuilt). If you're into history, this is where Chinese banking started...merchants deposited silver taels with exchange houses here to save them carrying it all on the silk road and getting robbed. The 'banks' here had branches as far away as Russia and Singapore. It all ended with Communism obviously. Not quite as old as European banking but still interesting.

>>1039565
>I pet a red panda
I LOVE the bits where they run freely on the tourist paths, scared the shit out of me when I first got there because I wasn't expecting it and suddenly zoo animals are coming right for me. I also love the giant panda in a red panda fur suit.

You didn't miss too much at Leshan, I'll post a pic, it's nice but you may have seen large buddhas before. I missed Ermeishan too and want to get back there in a few months.

>Here's a map I use in the city.
I think you missed an attachment.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 04:15:27 No.1039570 Report Delete

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>>1039569
>giant panda in a red panda fur suit
I didn't buy one but I wanted to.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 04:18:23 No.1039572 Report Delete

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>>1039569
>Leshan
I have another pic without the qt head but this gives perspective.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 16:36:12 No.1039727 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039781 >>1040550

What's the best way of dealing with cash in China? I'm reading conflicting info about ATMs, people saying they work fine, others saying you can't rely on them, the 6 digit pin will fuck up 4 digit cards, etc.

I'm super paranoid about my cards being rejected/swallowed and being stuck for 3 weeks. I can obtain some RMB before I travel but I'm on the road for a month before I reach beijing so I'd rather not carry 40x100RMB with me the whole time. travellers cheques??

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 20:10:58 No.1039777 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1039788

which cities have they now outlawed and banned e-bikes and scooters? i know shenzhen has, i think beijing and shanghai soon as well?

that's pretty gay tbh fam, that's one of the things that makes china unique and asian.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 20:19:53 No.1039781 Report Delete

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>>1039727
>What's the best way of dealing with cash in China?

ATMs. Shame about the fees though, your bank might be friendly about that.

They work fine these days, any of the big four banks can handle foreign cards, a handful of others can too, just look for the Maestro/Cirrus logos. Anything with a Visa/Mastercard logo is worth testing too (it's just a sticker, they don't always stick it). Oh, in a block of ATMs, not every ATM is always foreign card friendly. There are also odd withdrawal limits, often 2000RMB is the max for foreign cards.

>6 digit pin will fuck up 4 digit cards
Most ATMs are probably fine but yeah, some banks might have one that won't let you enter only 4 digits, it will vary depending on the ATM software. Ask your bank what kind of 6 digit pin is the same as your 4 digit pin. It might turn out that you can enter 123400 instead of 1234 and it will be accepted by your bank.

>rejected/swallowed
Rejection doesn't cause too many problems unless you're in the middle of bumfuck nowhere. I've been in that situation and had to change USD$100 at a very bad rate just to get a bus ticket back to civilisation.

>stuck for 3 weeks
Just go in to the bank and ask for your card back, it's less of a problem than you think. If you have your passport, they'll probably hand it right back.
Source: Chinese gf was a bank teller, she did that for foreigners in the past (also tried to get their number because she thought they were hot lol).

>I'm on the road for a month
>40x100RMB
You'd probably need about twice that for a month I think, maybe triple. You could still do that, I do sometimes. China is pretty safe. Just either put it in a body wallet of some kind or keep it concealed in your luggage.

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Anonymous Thu 08 Oct 2015 21:01:30 No.1039788 Report Delete

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>>1039777
>which cities have they now outlawed and banned e-bikes and scooters?
You want a list? No one has that, probably including the Chinese government.

I don't think too many cities have but yeah, some do. e-bikes are probably not outlawed everywhere, usually it's something like inner-city main roads or something. Hadn't heard about scooters being b& though.

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2015 01:08:44 No.1039849 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1040093 >>1042578

TEFL here. Rate my plans for the rest of the year:

Hua Shan, sunset & sunrise
ZhangJiaJie (Avatar Mountains) 5 days
YinChuan to sleep in a guard tower on the Great Wall (YinChuan doesn't regulate their section)
HaiNan in December

Taiwan/HK/Macau/Philippines over Feb/March break

When my contract ends, IDK if I should just spend a week in Beijing and fly back to America, or try to take a more scenic route, like India>South Africa>Chile>Mexico>USA

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Anonymous Fri 09 Oct 2015 21:25:18 No.1040093 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1040413

>>1039849
>my plans for the rest of the year
They seem ok. I guess you like extreme mountains?

You might want to include Huangshan, it's a bit tame compared to Huashan but the views are as good and I think maybe it's a bit bigger. Better facilities on the mountain too, as in more/bigger hotels (I think, I went to the two years apart so could be wrong about that).

Macau only takes 48 hours, it's not that interesting. HK could take as long as you like.

I wouldn't spend a week in Beijing, you'll get bored. I'd go out and see more sights.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2015 04:40:29 No.1040183 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1040252 >>1040410 >>1040413

I keep seeing all these awful videos on China relating to the pollution, gutter oil etc. but I'm still set on learning mandarin. I'm thinking maybe taiwan is my answer

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2015 11:29:23 No.1040252 Report Delete

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>>1040183
>awful videos on China relating to the pollution, gutter oil
Dude, gutter oil is fucking delicious. It has all the seasoning, kind of like using bacon grease to make biscuits. It's just like how you never wash a cast iron pan and it keeps flavor.

Pollution sucks in some cities, it varies. Not too much of a problem for expats, we don't generally stay there for long enough to really suffer from it.

>I'm thinking maybe taiwan is my answer
Ask in the next Taiwan thread but we do hear that it's nicer there.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2015 19:09:13 No.1040388 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1040413 >>1040508

Guys I need your advice

I want to go back to China to try my luck with some qt who actually likes me. I almost finished my BA for teaching Computer Science and English in Germany (would need the MA for teaching here tho) and I earn a couple of hundred dollars per month for mobile apps I developed once. I also make some rather unpredictable amount of money on the stock market, $1000/3months on average.

I could easily live and survive with that money there but here comes the problem: the qt is rich af, not "we are the 20% who can afford international flights"-rich but rather "should we spend the weekend in Shanghai, Beijing or rather Taipei where we have the other 2 flats?"-rich

The parents are not THAT "Chinese" so they don't expect her daughter to marry someone wealthier than her but I am sure they definitely want her husband to be "successful". I've already had some good conversations with her mom, she really likes me and told her daughter she should marry me - but all she knows about me is that I am a programmer (and therefore probably earn a couple of thousands per month).

Being a teacher in Germany gives you quite a good reputation and you earn about $4k per month after the first couple of years. But I am aware that I can't expect these sums in China. I also think teachers aren't well regarded at all. Typing this I just remembered how her mom's face went from smiling to neutral when I told her both of my parents are teachers. I could only save this by saying my dad makes most of his money with stocks tho (which is kinda true).

What are my chances? Should I settle for something else? I am useless at everything but programming, my English would definitely be sufficient to teach Chinese students more than the average Chinese teacher could ever teach them but compared to natives I am - again - useless at this.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2015 20:28:08 No.1040410 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1040782

>>1040183

There's no reason for you to learn it anyway

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2015 20:55:31 No.1040413 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1040416 >>1040508 >>1042891

>>1040093
Yeah, I'm from /out/ and /n/, I like nature hikes and cultural site-seeing over big cities by an order of magnitude. Thanks for the tip on Huangshan, haven't even heard of it yet.

>Macau only takes 48 hours

I figured I'd fly into HK for a week and pop over to Macau for a day or two sometime during that week. There's a train between the cities, apparently they don't even check passports since the cities are so close.

>>1040183
The pollution isn't that bad. In Beijing you probably need a mask 2 days a week, on average, but many other cities you rarely need it.

I also hear Taiwan is nicer.

>>1040388
Her mom might think you'll move to China permanently, where your salary will make you part of the top 5%, and it will stretch further over expenses.

>I also think teachers aren't well regarded at all.
Teaching in China is one of the highest-prestige positions they have. It's pretty much on par with being a doctor. If you're good with finances and are able to heavily subsidize your income through stocks, all the better. (Although it's a status-obsessed culture, so you'll have to start telling people you're a teacher and financial investor to gain face).

Anyway, if you like the girl, give it a shot. Worst case scenario, at least you get some money and a good story out of it.

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Anonymous Sat 10 Oct 2015 21:02:16 No.1040416 Report Delete

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>>1040413

lol No they aren't. Foreign teachers are looked down on like every other East Asian country. they know teachers don't make shit here, or are generally of poor character

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 07:36:40 No.1040508 Report Delete

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>>1040413
>I like nature hikes

You might prefer Songshan then, it's smaller but it's actual hiking on trails as opposed to walking up paved steps. Pic related

I sort of got into trouble up there, I had no idea it wasn't paved trails with shops every 500m so I only took 1L water and some snacks and started walking. Then it turned into a serious hike. I went through my water too quickly, it was a hot day, I ran out of snacks...luckily I ran into a group of Chinese hikers who took one look at me and adopted me and talked me out of hiking all the way to the peak I was aiming for and went to a nearer one instead. The hostel map didn't give a clue that I was going to be bushwalking in rough terrain.

>I figured I'd fly into HK for a week and pop over to Macau for a day or two
That's the perfect itinerary. It's not a train (that would be a long tunnel), it's a ferry. They do check passports but you won't need a visa if you're from almost anywhere in the first or second world. They're a casino haven basically, they want everyone in. You'll need multiple entry (or be on a visa run) to get back into China, your passport stamps will look like this:

1. Leave China
2. Enter HK
3. Leave HK
4. Enter Macau
5. Leave Macau
6. Enter HK
7. Leave HK
8. Enter China (need visa)

Except that HK and maybe Macau don't stamp anymore, just put a slip of paper in your passport.

>>1040388
>I want to go back to China to try my luck with some qt who actually likes me
Then do it, nothing else matters. Parents liking you is important. Maybe they hope that she marries you and moves to Germany too, it sounds like living between countries is cool with them.

Be with her but also finish your studies and talk to her family about whether you should be a programmer in Germany or try to teach something in China. There are Chinese universities that teach in English so you could actually get a job in China teaching Comp Sci in English to Chinese. Professor is not a low status job.

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Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 10:32:39 No.1040550 Report Delete

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>>1039727
atm's are everywhere unless you go to western china or something. okay, it took a random chinese person only speaking chinese 10 minutes to find me a 3rd, working atm after seeing it for herself that 2 out of 2 machines on a changsha airport level were down. she was all "put your card in there" pointing at the broken machine when i first asked for other atm's, so i dragged her 20 cm's away from the screen pointing at the text saying "machine out of order". it was a bit burlesquey. luckily that was the first and last atm issue encountered, it really only took 10 mins of my and that poor random cleaner's time.

i did end up taking a couple of thousand yuans out once, before going off the map a bit. i carried all (!) my cash with me in a transparent zip lock bag (it was raining at times, otherwise i would've put them in my pocket).
i saw a lot of locals with even more cash in their hands.
you should be more worried about being ripped off.

i have to ask whether you're an american? maybe from the uk? i haven't heard any sane person carrying travelers cheques since the start of nineties or so. other than americans. you have your freaking bank cards, why would you joke around with those fluffy papers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 10:37:41 No.1040555 Report Delete

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>>1040416
Let me re-phrase: In Chinese culture, teachers are regarded very highly, pretty much on par with doctors. However, this is a status symbol that is not necessarily reflected in pay. The native teachers usually know that the foreign teachers make more money for doing less work (absolutely true, sometimes 3x as much $), and some of them have sour moods about it. In my experience, less than 10% are actually abrasive. 10% don't care at all and want to be your friend really badly, inviting you over for tea and offering to help with translating if you get stuck in a bind. The rest of the teachers are either indifferent or at least not outwardly expressive of their opinions.

That's really only other teachers, though. When I tell other people that I'm a teacher, they have the same 'oohhh' expression that Americans sometimes have towards doctors/lawyers.

Caveat: in major cities, some people may be cynical about foreigners in general, because of all the foreigners that come to SEA to party on the cheap. In this case, you could be a fucking diplomat and they'd still be cynical.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 11 Oct 2015 10:39:50 No.1040557 Report Delete

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>>1040508
Thanks for the tips, bud. Songshan is added to my list, and I'll start talking to my company about exit/entry. Cheers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 01:00:40 No.1040782 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041613

>>1040410
But I want to learn it. It's an interesting language to me, and people always so "ohh chinese is so hard blah blah can't understand anything". But it's really not that difficult.

I want to visit Taiwan/Singapore sometime soon so that alone would make me learn the language. I also am getting a degree in business; never hurts to be able to speak two of the languages that dominate business and trade.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 12 Oct 2015 15:10:15 No.1041015 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041238

Will i be able to teach university gigs with a master's degree in English? Also i am a non-native speaker, could this prove a problem? Also curious to what the average salary is for a foreigner teaching at a university.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 00:37:27 No.1041238 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041267

>>1041015
>Will i be able to teach university gigs with a master's degree in English?
Probably, you might have to do a Tier 2 city (still very comfortable, I actually prefer it)
>Also i am a non-native speaker, could this prove a problem?
Some schools will flat out reject you for this, some will say that your education overcomes it. If you look white, they'll be less likely to care.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 02:45:46 No.1041267 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041284 >>1041908

>>1041238
>Tier 2
I also prefer the tier 2 cities. Not as crowded and intense as the tier 1s. Many are almost as international though and you can still get a steak or cocktail if you know where to go. The expat scenes are usually more cozy too.

>>1041238
>>Also i am a non-native speaker, could this prove a problem?
>Some schools will flat out reject you for this, some will say that your education overcomes it. If you look white, they'll be less likely to care.
I have met so many Russian and Cameroon English teachers...they usually say they're from London/NYC. That's less likely to fly at a university however. OTOH, a university is likely to care more about qualifications.

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Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 03:47:10 No.1041284 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041289

>>1041267

>Russians, cameroon

They teach at training centres for pennies out in the sticks. you don't want those types of jobs no matter where you're from, trust me

you'd be better off tutoring in your home country over Skype or working a manual labor job lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 04:18:15 No.1041289 Report Delete

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>>1041284
>Russians, cameroon
>teach at training centres for pennies out in the sticks
They certainly aren't at universities and they probably are at English-mills but it's not out in the sticks, it's tier 2 cities, mostly inner-city malls and stuff.

I think at least one was in a high school but to be fair, Cameroons tend to speak very, very good English, the ones from the capital usually learn English first, French second, some tribal language third. They're still all 'from NY' though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 05:42:58 No.1041307 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041342 >>1041363

Hey bruhs, is it a reasonable plan to travel to China during October if I miss the actual Golden Week? Say, the latter three weeks of the month. Or is it all still a pain in the ass?

I've done post-Golden Week Japan and that was fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 06:11:15 No.1041315 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041343

Yo gang, I'm a first time /trv/ poster here, have barely travelled outside of the UK.

I graduated from university one year ago in animation/illustration at a reputable london uni, but things havnt gone my way at all since then, and im struggling to find a permanent job (yes yes i know, i did an arts degree etc..).

This and a growing distaste for London has made me reconsider my future career, and more recently I've looked into teaching abroad, specifically in china. Alot of this thread has been useful to me so thankyou to people currently teaching in china who have spoken about their experiences.

My questions are:
Without teaching qualifications or a basic grasp of Chinese, is it practically impossible to work at a university? I have been in touch with an agency recently who put people into teaching positions for very young students (kindergarten age i mean), i wouldn't be totally averse to this, but would feel much more confident and comfortable teaching older kids.

How difficult is it to make the transition, if i were to NOT opt for an agency? Bear in mind my extremely small knowledge of the culture, language etc..

I have other questions too, but i'll see if anyone can answer these. if anyone who has done something similar could talk about their initial experience, and how they made it happen, i'd be grateful.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 09:47:31 No.1041342 Report Delete

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>>1041307
The natives blow their money to visit family during Golden Week, then do nothing for weeks afterward. Right now is a great time to visit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 09:55:08 No.1041343 Report Delete

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>>1041315
>Without teaching qualifications or a basic grasp of Chinese, is it practically impossible to work at a university?
Yes. I had 500 hours teaching experience and I still couldn't get a Uni position. China has been saturated with us foreign TEFLs, so they can be selective about Uni hires. You can get a really good set up teaching elementary/senior school, do it for a year, then move to Uni based on your work experience. In fact, that's what most Uni TEFL teachers in China have done.

>How difficult is it to make the transition, if i were to NOT opt for an agency?
Very difficult. I can't express how easy my agency made it for me. Chinese bureaucracy is ridiculous. You will experience issues with passports, visas, residence permits, not to mention finding meds if you get sick, or even finding fun places in the city. If you get a tourist visa and fly over and land a job directly through a school, you have to figure all this out on your own. Even with smart phone translators and the most positive of locals willing to help you out, it will make for a very unpleasant experience. OTOH, a good agency will take care of housing, visa paperwork, help with transpo, and much more.

>I have other questions too
Go ahead. I might be a day, but I'd like to help you out.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 13 Oct 2015 12:01:09 No.1041363 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1041307
>travel to China during October if I miss the actual Golden Week
You'll be fine. It's all over when it's over. Also, a lot of workplaces work their employees for a few extra days a week afterwards, I think 6 day weeks are official for the week or two after golden week.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 01:51:34 No.1041613 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041636

>>1040782
They speak mostly English in Singapore though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 03:31:01 No.1041636 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1041613
>They speak mostly English in Singapore though.
I was thinking it too but there are business ties to mainland China that probably use Mandarin if it's available. Hong Kong is gradually losing it's taxation secrecy advantages as the mainland government clamps down on its people and officials hiding money there and more tax dodgers (who still want international business facilities) are moving money and companies to Singapore.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 03:31:09 No.1041637 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041646 >>1042578

I'm so torn on China. Part of me really wants to go to see some of the ancient sites, the countryside, and another part of me is a massive pansy and is too scared to go beyond the most tourist-y stuff, on account of being a small female. My most "exotic" trip was to Japan, which I felt completely fine about, but I'm wondering if Singapore or Hong Kong would be a better place for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 05:11:59 No.1041646 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041859

>>1041637
>being a small female
You should be fine.

I've been in groups of western students and two of the girls did report being groped, one by a middle-aged woman who wanted to see if her big breasts were real or a padded bra.

In general, China is fine for females to travel alone in. It's not like rape and harassment doesn't ever happen but it's usually hidden away in workplaces and schools rather than out on the street.

Of course if you accept an invitation to go drinking baijiu or to a KTV with some group of men then who knows but outside of that, your biggest problem is going to be being hit on by foreigners in hostels and even then, most of the guys are probably interested in Chinese qts anyway.

China != India

They're both more and less conservative, in general people are very well behaved in China, most violent crimes are practically unheard of, Kunming is considered the murder capital of China and had 200 murders last year in a city of 6.5m. Also rape is a capital crime.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 19:37:07 No.1041859 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041863

>>1041646
Awesome, thank-you for that info.

>China != India
Yeah, that's probably what I was equating harassment to the most.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 20:07:01 No.1041863 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041866

>>1041859

most western girls I know can't handle china regardless. the spitting, shitting in the streets, crowding everywhere and lack of personal space, rudeness of the locals, sloppy food, cockroaches in your apartment, tainted drinking water, etc etc

you're better off in korea or japan

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 20:21:13 No.1041866 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041912

>>1041863
>the spitting, shitting in the streets, crowding everywhere and lack of personal space, rudeness of the locals, sloppy food, cockroaches in your apartment, tainted drinking water

It's not as bad as you make out.

Spitting is discouraged and these days it's mostly just old peasants that do that. Shitting in the streets doesn't happen except by infants and even then, only in slums etc (children pissing is another matter but it still isn't common). Locals aren't rude at all but the etiquette is different to the west, it takes a while to understand it.

Sloppy food? Depends on what you eat, stir fry can be sloppy, so can noodle soup, lot of food isn't. The only food that is 'sloppy' is either poor quality cafeteria food or meant to be that way.

Cockroaches can happen anywhere and even then, keep your apartment clean faggot. A foreign tourist isn't likely to encounter them, they're not staying in dirty apartment buildings. I haven't seen any in my hotel, once in a cheap restaurant though.

None of the above things are specifically problems for females though, they're just meme-tier stuff in general without any gender bias.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 21:00:22 No.1041889 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041907 >>1041908 >>1041930

chances to teach without being native or having a ba?

fairly sure I can get a tefl around here, living in UK but hate the area and my job

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 21:39:23 No.1041907 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041914 >>1042113

>>1041889

If you're white, you have a very high chance of getting hired. But you'll be making less than a native speaker, unless you have no accent and can lie to your employer that you're native.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 21:42:14 No.1041908 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041942 >>1042113

>>1041889
If you have a UK passport, you're fine. They probably won't know you're not native. TEFL would be enough then.

Otherwise, you'll be like these guys: >>1041267

They all have TEFL or something similar.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 21:48:45 No.1041912 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041931

>>1041866

i've seen spitting everywhere from shanghai to shenzhen to chengdu. guys spitting inside their own apartment buildings or in malls and shit. also people smoking on elevators when there's clearly a "no smoking" sign marked

i'm in a tier 2 city now, and the crowding is ridiculous. the subway trains are crowded every single day from 7am - 7 or 8pm, so I can't imagine how bad it is now in beijing and shanghai now. fucking farmers from the rural areas are flooding into every major city. just the other day I was in a subway train, the train stopped and i was trying to get off, and some farmer peasant motherfucker tried to push his way in as I was getting off and stepped on me.

shit like that tends to get on the nerves of most people; eventually you'll crack. most sheltered western girls bail before their year is up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 21:54:25 No.1041914 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1041907

Oh yeah, I forgot: You'll probably only be able to get a job in some shithole 2nd or 3rd tier city. Most employers in the first tiers won't touch you

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 23:00:39 No.1041930 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042113

>>1041889
You can do it but it is much less straightforward than the legal way.
Get a TEFL certificate, definitely.
China is what I know, so speaking only for how it works in China:
First, forget foreign-owned schools. (Not that big a deal, most ESL outfits are Chinese owned.)
Second, forget the top tier cities like Shanghai and Beijing in the beginning; if anyone hires you illegally with no degree and no experience in either of those places, you are going to be screwed. Maybe after you get some experience a connection can get you in?

Look instead to the rest of the country. There are lots of big cities that have millions of people, including plenty of nouveau-riche but very few Westerners willing to live there.

The guys who own schools are able to get you official teaching visas (technically you have to have a degree, but everyone knows the law is fake in China), and my suggestion would be that you be up front about not having a degree. Don't advertise it - just apply for the job and don't put a degree on your CV. If they say "where's the degree?" say that you don't have one but have held down jobs and are willing to work hard in China. Most schools will not reply to that email - but some will. Be persistent - some of these schools are desperate!

If you're white, include a photo of yourself on your CV. The school may ask you to pretend to be British or American to the students. Say "no problem!"

I've heard of people get through the whole process with fake degrees and the school never knowing. (The government officials charged with checking up on your degree have neither the work ethic nor English level required to properly verify a degree.) But I would not recommend this; better the school knows what they're getting from day one. Try to avoid admitting you know it's illegal. And when you get there, be nice to everyone! (Make friends - you may need them!)

Good luck. Being an exotic foreigner in China is a hell of a lot better than being poor in England

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 23:00:40 No.1041931 Report Delete

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>>1041912
>people smoking on elevators when there's clearly a "no smoking" sign
ok yeah, that's everywhere. It's getting better, Beijing is really serious about cracking down on it, Shanghai is working on the same thing and some tier 2 cities are bringing in the same laws. I know some expats in tier 2 who own bars who are having to bring in changes to avoid getting fines for people smoking there.

In five years, it might be possible to go to a club and not see anyone smoking.

>>1041912
>i was trying to get off, and some farmer peasant motherfucker tried to push his way in as I was getting off
Shenzhen has posters up saying something like "orderly queuing builds harmonious society". Most places have waiting areas marked outside subway car doors, the natives of the city usually know how to use them, rural migrants usually don't.

>most sheltered western girls bail before their year is up
Sheltered western guys stay for the pussy and/or get mothered by the pussy so they feel better about it maybe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 14 Oct 2015 23:53:35 No.1041942 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1041977 >>1042008

>>1041908
what are the hiring months for universities in China? I am looking into teaching ESL at a university there but I know I would have to start at the right time to get a good job.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 02:22:51 No.1041977 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1041942

You won't get hired by a university as a non-native speaker

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 04:41:50 No.1041996 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042008

anyone know some dirt cheap hostels or motels to stay in in shanghai?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 06:05:56 No.1042008 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1041996
>dirt cheap
>shanghai

Nope.avi

Try hotel.elong.net. You can find some cheap ones if you just go further out from the tourist stuff. Of course then you spend an hour getting to anywhere. Last time I was in Shanghai, I just stayed in an expensive hostel in a great location.

Maybe this will do you though:
http://hotel.elong.net/shanghai/00201583/#?
or a cheapish hotel:
http://hotel.elong.net/shanghai/20201482/

Or a suspicious hostel:
http://hotel.elong.net/shanghai/00201589/

>>1041942
>hiring months for universities in China
I'm a bad person to ask because I know university teachers but aren't one myself but I'll try since you replied to me. Hopefully another anon will chime in.

I think it was February plus a second round a month later for the ones that flaked from the first round. Apparently they're really desperate in the second round but you don't get the best universities because less people flake from them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 08:58:39 No.1042040 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042070

I'm thinking about going to North Korea and while I'm at it, do some sightseeing in Beijing. I don't need much time so I wonder if it's possible to maybe spend 2 days on the first transit and 2 days on the second transit, using the 72 hour transit visa they have available? Can you go to the great wall using the transit visa?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 11:06:24 No.1042070 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1042040
>Can you go to the great wall using the transit visa?
Isn't that just for the city?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 13:41:58 No.1042113 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042289

>>1041907
>>1041908
Have no accent, worked in international game companies last decade. Whiter than snow white doing blow on Christmas. Would I be able to apply from abroad or just go there and fuck around for a while while looking for someone to hire me?

>>1041930
Thanks for a big reply. How's Guangzhou, Shenzen or Chengdu?
Really good points, I'll give that a shot. I'm not brave enough to try the fake diploma shit though,

>poor in England
I make 30 a year, but so fucking bored that I haven't spent a pound the last six months. I could probably go there on savings without worrying for a year.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 15 Oct 2015 21:29:21 No.1042289 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1042113
>Would I be able to apply from abroad or just go there and fuck around for a while while looking for someone to hire me
You're supposed to apply from abroad.
You can certainly go there and fuck around but it's harder without some connections. People that do that are usually teachers who already have a gig behind them and are applying at schools where their friends already work.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 07:33:58 No.1042402 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1030719

Thought I might just stop by and introduce all you /trv/elfags to dianping (点评), awesome app for ratings on pretty much every service, location, hotel, restaurant, scenic spot, etc. you can think of.

If you don't speak any Chinese you could probably still get the app to work because its UI is intuitive enough. It works well for major cities like SH & BJ, and surprisingly well for small yingpan towns.

If you're more dexterous and know what you're doing you can also make reservations and get discounts (it's kinda like Yelp and Groupon in one).

It also works surprisingly well for identifying interesting sights to visit, like parks and museums.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 16:37:36 No.1042578 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042661

>>1039849
zhangjiajie is so good! protip: do not take the elevator. there are buses and cableways, buses are included in the ticket even...
also there're some new hostels within the zhangjiajie park that can be cheaper and better than the accomodation outside. tianmenshan (on the other side of town) is also fun, but not nearly as beautiful as zjj national park for sure.

>>1041637
small girl (woman?) here. just been to china during the summer. you'll be fine. i'd be more worried about the different traffic morale than anything. do cover up more around your chest and shoulders than what you'd cover in the us/eu, and wear a tiny bit loose clothing, and then you won't even get stares.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 22:53:07 No.1042661 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042814

>>1042578
>do cover up more around your chest and shoulders
I guess I don't see many young Chinese with cleavage. Plump middle-aged woman maybe but not generally young women with low tops.

OTOH: legs can be shown as much as you like at any age. Grannies in leather mini-skirts are common.

>you won't even get stares
That's a damn lie. It just won't be due to clothing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 22:54:29 No.1042662 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042672

I'm heading to Xi'an today, anyone got any advice for where expats hang out?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 23:56:40 No.1042672 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042697 >>1042700

>>1042662
Near the South gate has a lot of foreigner bars and hostels. Where / how long are you staying?

Stop by the drum tower and bell tower at night, but I wouldn't bother going inside, its not worth the ticket price.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 02:28:03 No.1042697 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1042672
>Where / how long are you staying?
Ancient City Hostel, 2 Lianhu lu.

Probably be there just a few days unless I find something fun to do. I've 'done' Xi'an before but not solo so I might get to see a bit more this time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 02:38:47 No.1042700 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1042672
>foreigner bars and hostels
The wiki mentions Green Molly Restaurant & Pub, does that still exist? If it does, and you don't tell me about something better, I might hang out there tonight. Want to get a drink?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 03:29:06 No.1042704 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042809

Anyone know a hair piece/toupee shop for western men in Shanghai or HK?

Asians really hate bald people, so I figure I'll be able to get a better, higher paying job with a hair piece.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 13:27:12 No.1042809 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042818

>>1042704

I'm sure there are tonnes of places in towns as cosmopolitan as that. But where do you get the idea that the Chinese look down on people who are bald?
Some big stars in China are bald.

Ge You and the host of 锵锵三人行 spring to mind.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 13:48:43 No.1042814 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1042661
you do get looked at of course, but won't get swarmed with people wanting your wechat and picture like blondes in spaghetti tops. mini skirts and barely-there shorts are def nothing special there.
idk i guess the definition of stare also depends where you're coming from. it wasn't bad compared to eastern europe.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 14:10:02 No.1042818 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1042868

>>1042809

I got rejected from a few teaching jobs because I was bald. They didn't outright say that was the reason, but they kind of hinted at it.

One time I actually asked one agency why I got rejected after I had an interview, and the agent told me the HR lady didn't like the fact that I was bald. That's Asia for ya.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 16:30:56 No.1042839 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1031365
Any good sites to find University jobs in China? Is a Technical School pretty much the same as a University in China?

I have found some sites but I'm pretty worried about getting scammed. The University websites are out there but some of them don't have english pages or places where you can apply on them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 17:43:38 No.1042868 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1042818
Asians don't bald, they just get long beautiful silver locks when they age.

Baldness is considered a sign that you are a pervert they immediately think of Master Roshi trying to watch Bulma take a shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 19:45:06 No.1042891 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043274

>>1040413
>>1040508
thanks for the advice, you boosted my confidence a lot rn!

Will post results whenever I am going for it!

can't believe how useful that board actually is, loving it

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 12:18:08 No.1043100 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043274

Is it possible to rent a room in an apartment or flat in Beijing or Shanghai without having to put down a deposit or put down any big money?

Just pay the rent straight up for one month and that's it?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 23:29:21 No.1043274 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044087 >>1044196

>>1043100
>Is it possible to rent a room in an apartment or flat in Beijing or Shanghai without having to put down a deposit or put down any big money?

No. Not in any official way.

>Just pay the rent straight up for one month and that's it?

Your best bet is to rent a room in a share-house with other expats. Of course you need to find a room through word of mouth (or just maybe, Craigslist) first. I do know a guy who did that, a merchant sailor who was in town for a few months and rented a room in a big apartment with other expats for Y2000 in Shenzhen.

>>1042891
>thanks for the advice, you boosted my confidence a lot rn!
You're welcome anon.

>Will post results whenever I am going for it!
Please do, we love that shit.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 00:14:02 No.1043283 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043308

Next time someone complains about 4chan Captcha, I'm going to post this from 12306.cn

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 03:12:44 No.1043308 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043313

>>1043283

This isn't a Captcha against bots, it's a Captcha against foreigners, kekek.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 03:22:26 No.1043313 Report Delete

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>>1043308
That and trying to open a alipay account do that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 03:24:17 No.1043314 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043343

Why wont china let foreigners sell things on taobao and alibaba?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 05:01:43 No.1043326 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1037271
Well, as long as you don't dress up like a refugee and act like a fucking dick head, you're fine in my book bruh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 06:31:05 No.1043336 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1037271

I was recently in HK and saw packs of ME or Indian male youths congregating on the streets or in 7-11s. They reeked of BO and cheap cologne. Didn't see them with any HK Chinese girls, if that's what you're asking.

There seem to be quite a few Indian women and other women in the city though. Some looked pretty hot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 07:07:57 No.1043343 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043352

>>1043314
>Why wont china let foreigners sell things on taobao and alibaba?
They probably want an id card to identify people and because lol China.

And you don't have one so you can't. It's probably not deliberate to block foreigners but we don't meet the requirements and they don't care enough to do anything especially for us.

Alipay will let you make an account eventually, it's just a fuck load of work and you need a Chinese bank account.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 08:13:13 No.1043352 Report Delete

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>>1043343
Buying on taobao is pretty easy, but selling is another matter.

Technically they don't need an id card: taobao requires a cell phone number; since 2013 all new cell phones numbers have to be associated with an id.

There may be a way to get around this, but I am not aware of it.

At least for purchasing things you don't actually need to have a Chinese e-banking account: I used the Chinese post office to transfer cash to my alipay account without ever linking a bank account. It is much less convenient, though.

Thing is though, why would you want to sell things in China on taobao? If I'm not mistaken there are better alternatives when it comes to auctioning and second hand sales.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 12:30:06 No.1043426 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043668

>1043352
>since 2013 all new cell phones numbers have to be associated with an id.
That id can be a passport though, so no problem there. Also, I thought it was 2015.

How did you open the alipay without a bank account?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 12:59:02 No.1043437 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043484 >>1043536 >>1043580

Quick tip if you're a foreigner in china at the airports: always go straight to the 1st class or business class counters, even if you booked an economy ticket.

They won't turn you down, and you don't have to wait in a long ass line behind a bunch of chinese farmers that shouldn't be traveling in the first place.

I discovered this a few weeks ago, and intend to keep on doing it. :)

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 15:30:35 No.1043484 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043629

>>1043437
>bunch of chinese farmers that shouldn't be traveling in the first place.

Nice. Are you always an ass-hat, or just when posting anonymously online?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 17:58:57 No.1043528 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I want to teach in China, but I don't have a degree (I'm busy studying for a 3 year diploma). I'm a native English speaker and I can do the tesol 130hr course at my university. Do I still stand a chance of getting in?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 18:24:06 No.1043536 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043437
I don't think you should be traveling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 22:12:31 No.1043580 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043437
Wow, we found the guy that makes Chinese queuing etiquette look polite and friendly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 03:14:21 No.1043618 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043633

What's a good brand of liquor? The super cheap stuff (brown liquor, red label with gold trim) is disgusting.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 03:57:34 No.1043629 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043484

You're either chinese yourself, or a delusional sinoboo. These newly rich, or newly middle class, ex-farmer chinese travelers are insufferable scum, and no one likes traveling with them unless you're an idiot or chinese yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 04:09:57 No.1043633 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043618
>The super cheap stuff (brown liquor, red label with gold trim) is disgusting
Oh yeah, that stuff made me drunker than I've ever been in my life. It's nice enough in very small doses.

The nicest stuff I've found is the Cassia stuff, it tastes like peaches. I believe it's mostly made in Zhejiang.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 07:30:49 No.1043668 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043683

>>1043426
>How did you open the alipay without a bank account?

As I recall all I had to do was enter credentials like email and username and provide a cellphone number. I then got an SMS with a confirmation code.
To actually fund my alipay account I used the post office, as stated earlier. Specifically it was a wanghui E (网汇E) ticket, which allows you to put a certain amount in cash onto a ticket with a unique code; you go back online and activate your code, and your alipay account magically receives that amount.

I am not 100% sure, but I think there is a more convenient method, without resorting to online banking: you can buy alipay cash cards in 7/11 and familymart, which might work for this purpose.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 08:57:16 No.1043683 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043973

>>1043668
I just made a taobao account with my phone number and it automatically made an alipay account, I haven't opened it yet to check.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 17:22:13 No.1043806 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044182

Hi I am planning on moving to China next year, probably Sichuan province, to teach English. A question for any Christians who live in China at the moment, what is the state of Christianity in particular Catholicisim? From what I read the "Catholic Church" there is in actual fact another propaganda arm of the Communist Party and isn't in full communion with Rome. I want to be able to go to mass and recieve holy communion from a Priest who is in communion with Rome. Is this possible? Are there underground expat Catholic communities?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 04:50:46 No.1043972 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043975 >>1044189

下个月,从7日到13日我的大学有一个假期。朋友们,同学们要去什么城市。

南京怎么样?我知道有很多历史古迹的地方,不过我对这些不有兴趣。我要参加什么假日,但是在11月有什么假日呢?

我同学要去新疆,但是我听说很难受到一个旅行证。你们觉得会不会去?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:30:00 No.1043973 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043683
Yea, that sounds about right

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:43:42 No.1043975 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043982

>>1043972

Have you heard of the Great Firewall? There are no actual Chinese perusing these forums, apart from a few RARES and expats.

去新疆不需要任何旅行证,但晚秋参观时不方便的。

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 06:37:51 No.1043982 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1043983 >>1044077

>>1043975
>There are no actual Chinese perusing these forums
no shit

>apart from a few RARES
what?

>但晚秋参观时不方便的。

为什么?没有好的火车日程安排吗?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 06:39:17 No.1043983 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043982

>tfw it literally takes an hour to post on 4chan

it's like i'm back in 2005 with dial-up

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 07:15:59 No.1043987 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044189

I'm thinking of going to a bar tonight in a tier 2 city. a friend of mine told me the bar and club scene here has already invaded by foreigners, but it seems they're mainly african, indian, hispanic, and fat and/or older English teachers, so they shouldn't be of any competition

What can I expect?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 15:44:06 No.1044077 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043982
>RARES
/pol/ meme

因为天气不好所以除了乌鲁木齐、喀什等城以外,那个时候过不去山路,也走不到北疆的天山、赛里木湖、喀纳斯和阿尔泰山。

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 16:13:35 No.1044087 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044185

>>1043274
If you have housing paid for, is about 7000rmnb a month decent for an esl teacher in Beijing? What would be decent? I'm afraid it wouldn't be enough to live off of

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 22:34:59 No.1044164 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044201

Does saving face mean Chinese will always lie to me if it keeps me from feeling bad?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:39:02 No.1044182 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045157

>>1043806
>Are there underground expat Catholic communities?

Yes, the italian zombie cult has a long history of hiding from governments that want their citizens to be loyal to them instead of foreign powers and are quite good at maintain secret conspiracies of cultists despite persecution, investigation and oppression.

The official Chinese Catholic Church is party run, it's more about preventing religion from being a tool to inspire revolution or just random anti-party/anti-government sentiment. The Catholic Church inevitably attacks Communist and Socialist governments with considerable zeal so they don't want that happening in China.

Everything about that situation is so fucked up and everyone involved is so evil that I really don't give a shit about who does what to who there, there are no innocents in that fight.

You're out of luck anon, you won't find these secret churches and the official ones aren't good enough for you so maybe you should give up on sky faeries? They clearly don't want to be worshipped by you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 23:49:36 No.1044185 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044240

>>1044087

lolno. That's not enough in BJ. Even Chinese teachers make more than that... christ. FYI, Beijing is the most expensive city in China now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 00:16:52 No.1044189 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1043972
>去新疆不需要任何旅行证,但晚秋参观时不方便的。
Nanjing is cool.

I really liked the Sun Yetsen tomb/memorial, even if it's the complete opposite of what he stood for. It looks like something a Goa'uld would live in.

Maybe you'd like Blue Sky, an aussie pub that expats hang out at.

>>1043987
>going to a bar tonight in a tier 2 city
Which city?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 00:41:07 No.1044196 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044202

>>1043274

Thanks for the help friendo.

I just rented a room for the month. My roommate is a Chinese girl. My room does not have a separate key tho. is it likely she'll go through my stuff or steal something from me? I'm kinda worried.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 01:28:08 No.1044201 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044236

>>1044164
>Does saving face mean Chinese will always lie to me if it keeps me from feeling bad?
It depends on the topic but sometimes. My gf gets annoyed if I don't lie to her sometimes.

Not all Chinese care about it so much and no one cares about it all the time though. It's just a behaviour, not a religion.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 01:30:38 No.1044202 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1044196
>is it likely she'll go through my stuff or steal something from me?
No, Chinese tend to be pretty honest and also respect privacy but I guess you can never tell.

Just use your luggage locks anyway, you aren't going to care if she sniffs your underwear are you? Keep anything valuable locked in your bag. Everything else you can just unpack in the room.

Where are you renting? Which city?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 05:17:27 No.1044236 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1044201
Technically, saving face means Chinese will lie to you about your flaws to make them seem more polite or optimistic. They're not assholes, it's like a social game for them. Laugh along and say something nice back, its the cultural response.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 05:29:28 No.1044240 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1044185

He said, with housing already paid.

It therefore depends entirely on whether you want to live like a Chinaman or like a Princeling.

You can get a meal on pretty much any street corner for 5 kuai.
Taobao has everything and costs almost nothing.
As a foreigner you can enter and drink in most clubs for free.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 11:48:19 No.1044622 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044628 >>1044693

I have the opportunity to study abroad in China for half a year, but I'm mixed half black/white and I've heard a lot about prejudice against blacks there. How big of an issue is being black in China? Is it not really that much of an issue or to the Chinese openly treat black people like shit and condescendingly?

Though for what it's worth, I'm fairly light skinned and have Caucasian facial features so I often get mistaken as being Middle Eastern rather than African-American at first glance

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 12:13:25 No.1044628 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1044622
>Is it not really that much of an issue
No, it's not really that much of an issue.

>I've heard a lot about prejudice against blacks there
You should stop reading /pol/

If someone were to actually give you a problem, tell them you're descended from Baogong. He's the most famous ancient official in China and had black skin. He was basically a kind of judge who used to go around in disguises to investigate crimes that were brought to his court and do all sorts of Sherlock Holmes stuff. Black as the ace of spades according to legend. There are temples to him.

Lots of Chinese are pretty dark, it's maybe more common among the Mongols and the Southerners.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 15:48:56 No.1044693 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044763

>>1044622

Well they are more racist than most other Asians, but you shouldn't have any problems studying. You probably won't get laid as much as your white friends, if at all. If you're looking for easy pussy, then there are better countries.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 23:22:26 No.1044763 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1044806 >>1044810

>>1044693
>You probably won't get laid as much as your white friends, if at all
Still mememing the memes I see.

>>1044693
>Well they are more racist than most other Asians
That's the opposite of true. China is much less racist than say, Japan or South Korea.

I meet English teachers from Africa and black American English teachers who all have Chinese gfs or wives. Maybe you have to work more? Probably not that much more.

I've also met a few Chinese qts who had black exs.

There's a reputation of black foreign students knocking up local girls and going back home and abandoning the gf and in some places , they have a reputation for being drug dealers but those are the only problems you're likely to have and if you're not a scumbag then you're probably fine.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:00:00 No.1044806 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045014

>>1044763

Maybe some poor average to ugly girls would date blacks in the shitty tier 2, tier 3+ cities where there are no other foreigners around, but in general it's pretty rare. Blacks are not going to be slaying pussy as much as white guys.

It probably took those guys 6 months to a year, 3 years or more of living in China and being fluent in Mandarin to finally get a girlfriend or wife. Whereas a white guy will get laid his first day/first week in China without speaking a word Chinese. lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:08:26 No.1044810 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045014

>>1044763

>That's the opposite of true. China is much less racist than say, Japan or South Korea.
'Fraid not. How many years have you lived in China? I've seen a quite a few black vloggers in China that complain about being discriminated against or having it harder Met some Africans that say the same. I've also met quite a few Chinese girls that tell me they hate black people without me bringing them up. You wouldn't hear a Japanese girl or probably even a Korean girl saying this.

The blacks that think China is good to them are delusional. Like this black American guy I know that says he's doing well when he's only slept with two chubster/ugly girls in 6 months.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:12:48 No.1044852 Report Delete

Quoted By:

so my friend is having trouble buying with taobao, or more specifically with alipay. she linked her bank account to taobao, but isn't able to access her alipay because the phone number she registered with her bank account is wrong.

she went to her bank to see if her phone number registered with her bank account somehow changed, but apparently is hasn't.

wat do?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 01:54:51 No.1045014 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045057

>>1044806
>>1044810
I've never seen any white guys with good looking Chinese girlfriends.

I mean I'm sure they do better than every other foreign race but they are not hitting any quality pussy.

It's either average or uggo.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 07:04:46 No.1045057 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045014

Chinese youth today is more materialistic than any previous generation of Westerner.

Chinese girls care more about your wallet than anything else; skin colour, education, personality. They have no fucks to give.

Since most foreigners in China are:
1) poor ass students
2) loser expats looking for an easy life teaching English
3) poor ass, stinky tourists
4) (tiny minority) high salary employees contracted to work in China

therefore not many of them are likely to get good Chinese pussy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:15:48 No.1045134 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045146

How often do you get bothered by police, or have police or security knocking on your door to see your passport and registration?

I imagine it happens more often in the rural areas and tier 2s and 3s than the big cities; old farmer chinks sitting around having nothing else to do tend to gossip and start trouble when they're bored.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:07:56 No.1045146 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045134
>How often do you get bothered by police, or have police or security knocking on your door to see your passport and registration?
I've travelled over nearly all of China and that's never happened to me.

The only time that anyone out of the ordinary wanted to see my passport, was when I was already speaking to police about something else and they decided to check my immigration status at the same time.

I don't know why you think farmers would start trouble, they're usually pretty curious about where you're from.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:43:02 No.1045157 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1044182
3edgy5me

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:06:58 No.1045252 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045258 >>1045281 >>1045284

What's the general response to red hair in China? As in a Caucasian foreigner with natural ginger hair.

I'm not asking about whether it's appealing for the sake of hooking up, just receptions to it in general.

Bear in mind that (despite my disinterest in the sex tourism side of things) I am a good looking guy and I'm only wondering what Chinese (mainlanders) think of my hair. I'd like to be prepared if people try to pour acid on me, try to clip locks of it, attempt to snuff it for their libido or ask for a photo constantly. I'd also like to know whether its not really cared about so I don't go there expecting extraordinary treatment and have it not materialise. Just curious, basically.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:35:07 No.1045258 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045259

>>1045252
>people try to pour acid on me, try to clip locks of it, attempt to snuff it for their libido or ask for a photo constantly

WTF?

I expect it will be treated much the same as blond hair. You'll get requests for photos but we all get that. Otherwise, I doubt anyone will care. I've only met a few foreigners with red hair and they didn't seem to get any special treatment that the rest of us didn't get.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:38:35 No.1045259 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045258
I was just kidding with that haha.

Yeah, I imagined that it would be as with blondes. I'm travelling with two blonde people anyway so we'll see if there's a difference in practice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:37:03 No.1045281 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045252

depends on where you're going. in the tier 1 cities, people wont bat an eyelash at you. unless they're from the rural areas, where they will probably take group photos of you.

one of my classmates is a redhead, and she doesn't attract much if any attention, at least when i've been around her.

honestly, blond-hair and blue/green/grey eyes attract far more attention.

>people try to pour acid on me, try to clip locks of it, attempt to snuff it for their libido or ask for a photo constantly

wat

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 05:59:28 No.1045284 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045252

you'll probably be asked for photos outside the big cities. maybe some tourists from the sticks that are vacationing in shanghai or beijing during the seasons will stop and ask you for photos. farmers will stare at you shamelessly like you're a freak, and there are plenty of farmers (what we expats in china tend to call the poor, uneducated peasant males with tanned skin and raggedy clothes and who tend to work menial jobs that creepily stare at you or make comments in mandarin to each other and laugh in your direction), in beijing and shanghai

girls will probably stare and giggle at you/smile or whatever. on a positive note, the whiter you are the easier the girls are it seems. lots of them have a fetish for nordic or redhead guys

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:08:53 No.1045567 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045595 >>1045596 >>1045599

How can I eat cheaply in shanghai

Someone said you can buy street stall meals for 10 RMB, but there aren't really any stalls where I'm living. A small meal at Family Mart or Lawson will set you back about 20-40 RMB, I need to live pretty cheaply for the month until I get my first paycheck

Any suggestions?

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 11:46:14 No.1045579 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045595 >>1045596 >>1045690 >>1045769 >>1045874

>>possible?
23 here have tefl certification no diploma or ged would love to teach English in China I am really leaning towards teaching kindergarten students is it possible for me or am I pretty much fucked

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:00:39 No.1045595 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045567
>A small meal at Family Mart
Well don't do that, shit.
Family Mart is pretty high quality for convenience store food but it's not real food and it's not as cheap as actual real food can be.

You need to find the little hole-in-the-wall restaurants and street stalls. I don't know Shanghai super well but I've seen a few street stalls around, I remember seeing some at an exit for the Metro station you use for the Metro supermarket (Maidan) so they definitely exist in Shanghai.

You'll probably do better further away from the international part of Shanghai too.

And don't know a bowl of instant noodles and a sausage, instant noodles are pretty high quality in China. The sausage isn't anything special but it's protein.

If in real doubt, just ask a random rural-looking migrant where they get a bowl of noodle soup.

>>1045579
>am really leaning towards teaching kindergarten students
Yeah, should be possible and actually teachers that *like* children often have an easy time getting work because all the loser teachers running away from problems hate it. It would be best if you had a degree in anything but just tefl will still be ok I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:01:50 No.1045596 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045608

>>1045567
>A small meal at Family Mart
Well shit, don't do that.
Family Mart is pretty high quality for convenience store food but it's not real food and it's not as cheap as actual real food can be.

You need to find the little hole-in-the-wall restaurants and street stalls. I don't know Shanghai super well but I've seen a few street stalls around, I remember seeing some at an exit for the Metro station you use for the Metro supermarket (Maidan) so they definitely exist in Shanghai.

You'll probably do better further away from the international part of Shanghai too.

And don't knock a bowl of instant noodles and a sausage, instant noodles are pretty high quality in China. The sausage isn't anything special but it's protein.

If in real doubt, just ask a random rural-looking migrant where they get a bowl of noodle soup.

>>1045579
>am really leaning towards teaching kindergarten students
Yeah, should be possible and actually teachers that *like* children often have an easy time getting work because all the loser teachers running away from problems hate it. It would be best if you had a degree in anything but just tefl will still be ok I think.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:11:23 No.1045599 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045567
Go to Nanjing road and head to any small street to the north, you can find cheap food there. In the evenings in many places you can find food prepared on street carts, workers enjoy it after the end of their shift. Even 100 meters from the Bund. Not so much in Pudong because it's mostly a business district.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:39:43 No.1045608 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045690 >>1045769

>>1045596 Thank You for your advice I do love children I use to teach children in Mexico but that was not really a school it was just a home were a lady held English classes in her back yard well I will definitely give it a shot

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 13:41:41 No.1045609 Report Delete

Quoted By:

backyard** my mistake

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 19:33:57 No.1045690 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045718

>>1045579
>23 here have tefl certification no diploma or ged
>I am really leaning towards teaching kindergarten students
>>1045608
>I do love children

not suspicious at all

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 21:34:51 No.1045718 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045690
>not suspicious at all
I don't *think* they're pedobear but if they are, they'll be executed.

We know that Chinese school teachers get away with raping children for years but I don't think a foreigner will get that sort of cover-up from the police, they'll just arrest them and throw the book at them and eventually shoot them.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:54:30 No.1045755 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045756

Hey, does anyone know the name of that song that goes "darling darling darling da"?

I keep hearing it around the place but I have no idea what it's called.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:59:13 No.1045756 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045755
Found it.
我在那一角落患过伤风

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsUpmOIcYgo

Complete with Shonan pics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:17:29 No.1045769 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1045770 >>1045876

>>1045579
>>1045608

Youre not likely going to find a job, especially since you aren't western. If you do they will probably take advantage of your lack of education and pay you very little money.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 00:28:35 No.1045770 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045769

Also a bachelor's degree is required to obtain a work visa to legally work in the country.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:13:30 No.1045874 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1045579 lol I cant have kids and as a female it sucks so yes I have always loved watching over children not in some sicko type of way though ass -___- lol

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:17:53 No.1045876 Report Delete

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>>1045769 I am western but yes I do not have a bachelor's so I guess that would mess me up

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:54:02 No.1045894 Report Delete

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>>1031400

hi Hamish

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 00:36:33 No.1046075 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>1046083

Hello people,
I'm going back to China in December and I just want to ask a quick question;
What is the BEST movie theater in Hong Kong and Guangzhou?

I'm planning to see Star Wars ep 7 in China because, well, I can't see it in murica because I will be in China when it gets released.
Also, RIP 70mm The h8ful 8

Thanks!

also, can you recommend me places to go to in South China that is cool? Hong Kong/Guangzhou areas primarly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 01:31:55 No.1046083 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>1046075
China release times tend to be a few months behind other countries to slow down piracy. It might not come out in cinemas until Jan or Feb.

There are lots of big cinemas in both countries though, you won't have trouble finding one. Zhujiang New Town should have something in Guangzhou and Hong Kong has heaps, you could go to the mall next to IFC building, that has a decent cinema, I've seen a few things there. Good screen but small theatre so you get close but not too close.

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