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>>62240268
Martian showed me ridley still has it, but holy fuck, prometheus ruined all the myster of the alien lore for me and took a dump on the jockeys, so i really don't want to see prometheus 2 except for david. i'd certainly rather see hicks and ripley go back at it.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 23:46:47 No.62240373 Report Delete

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>>62240329
You're not getting Prometheus 2. Ridley is making Aliens: Paradise Lost :^)

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>>62240323

just want wikus back to yell "FOOKIN PRAWNS MATE!"

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:43:03 No.62241731 Report Delete

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>watched about 15 minutes of Elysium
>FUCK YOU, YOU CRAWL INTO THAT GIANT OVEN OF YOU'RE FIRED
>they horde magic healing beds out of just being mean

Blomkamp should stop making movies.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:45:58 No.62241796 Report Delete

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Hope the new Alien movie only has 1 alien, and I hope it doesn't take place in space. I also hope the main character isn't black or female.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 00:51:09 No.62241912 Report Delete

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>>62241796
>New Alien
>Going to take place on Earth during/shortly after the Predators wipe it out (it's actually canon, look it up), but they are going to replace the Predators with muh Xeno's because of the stigma left by the AVP movies
>Main character is going to be a black woman and Ripley is going to be the mentor character
>All the supporting cast are going to be minorities
>White people are going to be the evil Weyland suits who write the Earth off as a lost cause

You just know.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:10:12 No.62242339 Report Delete

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>>62241912
If that is the case then he'd be heavily ripping off a Darkhorse comic series that was made after Aliens and long before Aliens 3.

>Ripley, Newt, Hicks make it back to Earth
>xenos make it to Earth too
>aliens proceed to over run the planet
>everyone that can gets the fuck off planet
>Ripley disappears off into space looking for the alien homeworld
>something was fucked with Newts cyro storage and shes older now and falls for Hicks
>Hicks turns out to be a Android

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:15:28 No.62242455 Report Delete

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>>62240170
I'm gathering you're implying that the film is on hold because Prometheus failed. That is incorrect. The film was on hold the moment it was greenlit because Prometheus 2: Paradise Lost, now Alien: Paradise Lost, is currently in development with Ridley's production company, who are also backing Blomkamp's movie.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:16:58 No.62242480 Report Delete

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>>62240329
>prometheus ruined all the myster of the alien lore for me
It literally couldn't have done otherwise. Prequels provide backstory, it's what they do.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:19:18 No.62242547 Report Delete

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>>62241731
I didn't like Elysium, but I don't find the restriction of super-expensive, super advanced healing beds to be unrealistic. It was clear that the people living on the space station didn't care at all about the Earth-dwellers. Why would you manufacture more magic, un-profitable health machines? It's one thing if someone can afford their own, personal heath machine, but you know IRL that shit would not be distributed for public use.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:24:01 No.62242659 Report Delete

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>>62242547
>Why would you manufacture more magic, un-profitable health machines? It's one thing if someone can afford their own, personal heath machine, but you know IRL that shit would not be distributed for public use.
I'm sure there's some eccentric rich person in the world with his own high-tech medical equipment at home, but we still have hospitals. If there are enough to put in everyone's house up there then there should be enough to at least have one in each county general.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:28:52 No.62242768 Report Delete

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>>62242659
And throw the proletariat a bone? Nah. There were so many of them that the Elysium people probably didn't want them having higher survivability. There's no profit in ever helping people you don't need. What were they going to do, strike? They'd be killed by robots or starved out.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:32:49 No.62242859 Report Delete

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Thank fuck, Blomkamp is absolutely the wrong person to be anywhere near the Alien universe. Sure, he may have "grew up watching them", but the guy and his film creation methods are that of an absolute chode.

Hopefully Ridley can salvage the franchise, if that writing cast is any good. Visually, you can't beat Ridley (especially with his liking for MPC who are the absolute kings at environmental CG) but holy fuck repairing the damage Lindelof caused seems like an impossible task. Hopefully they'll make Prometheus a very distant cousin of the film instead of a direct relationship, backtrack on some of the retarded shit and ignore "The Engineers" bullshit if this is an actual prequel to Alien.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:34:50 No.62242904 Report Delete

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>>62240170
It's out in hold because Scott renamed Prometheus 2 to Alien Paradise lost.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:35:06 No.62242908 Report Delete

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>>62242339
what the fuck

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:35:57 No.62242926 Report Delete

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>>62242859
I think he could make a decent Aliens spiritual sequel tbh

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:36:41 No.62242946 Report Delete

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>>62242768
>And throw the proletariat a bone? Nah.
We know very little about the world of Elysium, so we're left to guess at all this shit. Maybe the beds were invented on Elysium, maybe they monopolized them somehow, maybe they were just prohibitively expensive, but if we fill in these blanks from our own world then it doesn't add up that these things just aren't available for public health or from a nonprofit sector.
>There's no profit in ever helping people you don't need.
It doesn't have to be about pure altruism either - it's actually not to a company's advantage to have its trained workers dying from workplace accidents like we saw, but then it was unrealistic to have humans still working a factory line that far in the future anyway.
>What were they going to do, strike? They'd be killed by robots or starved out.
You know if it was really that cutthroat between them then Elysium should have just been able to wipe out the whole planet's surface and recolonized it from above. For some reason that wasn't considered even by Jodie Foster's character, so there must be more to it like shitty writing.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:37:13 No.62242956 Report Delete

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>>62240373
>Paradise Lost

Who came up with that elaborate and clever name I wonder?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:37:16 No.62242958 Report Delete

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>>62240329

>Alien lore

This is what Alien fans believe. One single scene of intrigue in an entire movie is "lore," but when Prometheus provides that in exponentially greater quantities, everything's ruined.

Anyone who likes Alien more than Prometheus is retarded. I knew this was true beforehand, and observing them voice their canned "opinions" only confirms this.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:37:48 No.62242971 Report Delete

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>director needed

YO JIM! its time to stop making blue people movies and come back and save this franchise!

literally, he makes an awesome sequel then someone messes it up with a crappy third, TWICE

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:39:42 No.62243014 Report Delete

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>>62242859
Prometheus 2 has been rebranded as an Alien movie, so it's not going to increase the distance between Prometheus and Alien.
Also Blomkamp's movie is still happening ,they're just not producing two Alien movies at the same time.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:41:36 No.62243060 Report Delete

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>>62242958
Because lore is better when it isn't spelled out, and the audience is left to try and speculate based on what they see. It never needed to be fleshed out, it was a retarded idea and it made for a half assed movie.

I mean, shit, it's common knowledge that the producers moved it away from being an Alien preqel and towards a L O S T-alike SO DEEP space movie.

My god you are the biggest contrarian piece of normie shit I have ever seen. Trashing mystery and intrigue in favor of LE ALL WILL BE REVEALED JUST KEEP WATCHING style bullshit storytelling.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:42:43 No.62243082 Report Delete

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What Prometheus achieved was btfo faggots who thought the video games and comics were canon. That is literally where all the butt hurt stems from. We get one entry in a movie series that obviously serves to set up questions to be answered later. Meanwhile all the autists flip their sit because they can't handle withheld information.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:43:30 No.62243096 Report Delete

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>>62240261
*cheppee

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:43:59 No.62243111 Report Delete

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>>62243082
Fuck off, stop trying to fit in.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:44:04 No.62243114 Report Delete

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>>62243060

The lore in Prometheus introduces a lot more mystery and intrigue that wasn't there previously though, and this time it actually has depth. It's by far the better movie. You like Alien better solely because you're an easily-entertained moron.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:45:10 No.62243138 Report Delete

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>>62243082
pretty dumb post tbh

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:45:31 No.62243142 Report Delete

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>>62243060
>I mean, shit, it's common knowledge that the producers moved it away from being an Alien preqel and towards a L O S T-alike SO DEEP space movie.
It's common knowledge that Ridley brought in Lindelof to redo his script specifically because he's the same kind of shithead you are that thinks all this so-mysterious crap is somehow inherently good. He thought his first script spelled too much out so he brought in L O S T to cut out the details. Then when he was done filming he edited out 10 minutes because that was still too detailed for him.

Our reward is retards like you that still say there was too much, along with the opposite kind of retard that comes here and says "why did he touch the snake?"

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:45:37 No.62243144 Report Delete

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>>62243082
What are you in about /v/edditor

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:45:46 No.62243148 Report Delete

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>>62243114

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:47:15 No.62243170 Report Delete

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>>62243148

What does Alien have for a thinking person apart from a short scene in the beginning of the movie? Most of it is a slasher movie in space. Slasher movies are, by definition, entertainment for people of low intelligence.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:47:21 No.62243172 Report Delete

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>>62240170
The hilarious thing is that a fucking video game managed to have an Alien story that would hold up as a movie better than any of the other movies post-aliens.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:49:19 No.62243217 Report Delete

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>>62240329
>prometheus ruined all the myster of the alien lore
On the contrary, Prometheus brought the mystery back after years of the aliens being seen as simple cannon fodder space bugs that are easy to comprehend.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:49:22 No.62243219 Report Delete

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>>62243170
>What does Alien have for a thinking person apart from a short scene in the beginning of the movie?
A ton of headcanon that spergs can rage at sequels and prequels for contradicting.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:49:48 No.62243227 Report Delete

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>>62243172
I don't know how true that is and I have a hard time believe it. All the "canon" video game sequels, that got retconned later because they were dog shit, were...shit.

Aliens: Colonial Marin was canon, shit.
Stars Wars: The Force Unleased was canon, shit.
Ghostbusters III was canon, shit.

There's probably more.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:50:21 No.62243240 Report Delete

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>>62243114
No it doesn't, it does exactly what Lost did and pile one more "mystery" on top of another into a nonsensical bunch of bullshit that fucktards like yourself will think is somehow deep and mysterious.

Alien had some fantastic imagery in it that lent itself to a lot of speculation. That's it, that's all, we didn't need a fucking movie about it, and we most certainly didn't need space Lost shitting up the canon. The actual origin of the Alien never needed an explanation, they were a terrifying unknown that crawled out of a derelict Geiger Hell of a ship. Everything in that ship was purely open for speculation, which is how it should have stayed.

Only fucktards want something like that given a boring, generic explanation and spoonfed to them.

>>62243114
You aren't even trying.

>>62243082
Not too many people really cared about the games or movies being or not being canon. The only people who like Prometheus are people who think that Lost was some deep, masterful storytelling.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:50:37 No.62243244 Report Delete

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>>62243172
Pretty much the only saving grace I see to Alien 4 is Ron Perlman playing Ron Perlman in it and he survives

well that and the complete full retard train that is the comic series known as Aliens vs. Predators vs. Terminators

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:51:48 No.62243273 Report Delete

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>>62243142
If Ridley didn't want to fuck up the mysterious nature the franchise, he shouldn't have made the movie. But he's a whore, so he did. It was unnecessary to ever explain what was up with the Geiger ship, it was better as this weird fucking unknown.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:52:13 No.62243283 Report Delete

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Ridley Scott failed horribly with Prometheus, I don't see how Blomkamp could do any worse.

At least Alien 5 is better than one of those stupid Title : Sub Title kind of movies that always inevitably suck no matter what.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:52:32 No.62243288 Report Delete

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ITT: Literal shit flinging, bottom-feeding plebians talking crap about a great sci-fi film (Prometheus) that their undeveloped minds couldn't understand.

>mfw disgusting sub-human plebs talk shit about art their brains can't quantify

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:53:42 No.62243313 Report Delete

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>>62240170
>Prometheus failed at reinvigorating the Alien franchise

Prometheus is an origin story.
You idiot.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:53:45 No.62243314 Report Delete

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>>62243288
Stop shitposting.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:54:33 No.62243329 Report Delete

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>>62243313
Yeah and it wasn't really marketed (or at least mass marketed) as an Alien movie. Still sucked though.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:54:58 No.62243338 Report Delete

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>>62243240

You're just selectively describing things with buzzwords to fit your agenda with absolutely no supporting argument. Do you really believe that isn't obvious?

You're clearly one of these worthless neckbeards with a creepy addiction to muh originals. No one fucking cares you sperging retard. My IQ is literally twice yours and I found the story in Prometheus to be a thousand times more compelling than the "story"* in Alien. You vacuously describing it as boring and generic only serves to embarrass you, because it's so clear that you formulate all of your "opinions" around worshiping Alien.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:55:43 No.62243354 Report Delete

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>>62243240
>Not too many people really cared about the games or movies being or not being canon. The only people who like Prometheus are people who think that Lost was some deep, masterful storytelling.

I still don't understand why people get hurtburt over whats canon and not canon.

Way I see it theres the strictly movie canon, the different movie + comics canon (for both Aliens & Predators), the strictly AVP comics canon which incorporates most of the comics plus any new and good shit when new movies come out (the current Engineers shit with Promethus, hunter killer clans and the big preds and game reserve planets with Predators), etc.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:55:45 No.62243356 Report Delete

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>>62243273
>It was unnecessary to ever explain what was up with the Geiger ship, it was better as this weird fucking unknown.
No movie is necessary. Ridley wanted to grow his universe. You would have been dissatisfied no matter what he produced, but you still went to see it, and you're going to watch these next two movies too.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:57:00 No.62243388 Report Delete

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>>62243273

Alien provokes a whole 30 seconds of thought. I don't see how you can think that's so worth preserving that its background should remain untouched.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:57:19 No.62243393 Report Delete

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the problem with prometheus wasnt that it was hard to follow or get, its just filled with plot problems(so youre a biologist but you pet a vaginasnake you just saw? where did you graduate), and its false aura of trying to be deep but really its just got nothing behind it

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:57:22 No.62243394 Report Delete

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>>62243240
>Only fucktards want something like that given a boring, generic explanation and spoonfed to them.
All that "lot of speculation" you're grieving over was boring generic explanation as well. You got the filmmaker's explanation, take it or leave it.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:58:33 No.62243417 Report Delete

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>>62243170
Prometheus is about as intellectual as LOST was, in that it made plebs think it was 2deep when in reality it was just awful, lazy writing that appealed to speculation more than anything, exactly the same as LOST did. I'm not calling you retarded if you were a fan of LOST or Promethus - I like Prometheus for the most part, I'm just saying to think either as intellectually stimulating is monumentally retarded.

Alien does this more or less as well in that people speculate on the mystery etc. but that wasn't its main focus unlike with Prometheus - as you said it was a horror slasher film, made eerier by the mystery (that complemented it) instead of being the main focus. Alien as a franchise never sets out to be an intellectually stimulating film, that was never it's purpose and you would be wrong to think it was, it is pure entertainment and horror with elements of science-fiction combined together with a solid cast that made it so memorable.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:58:36 No.62243418 Report Delete

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>>62243338
Okay you pushed it a little too hard, I can't pretend I'm actually arguing with somebody any more. The minute you bring up your IQ your posts can't be seen as legitimate anymore because there's absolutely no way somebody would bring up their IQ in a real discussion, it can only be trolling. You have to maintain the illusion that you're serious.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:58:52 No.62243423 Report Delete

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>>62243273
>If Ridley didn't want to fuck up the mysterious nature the franchise, he shouldn't have made the movie. But he's a whore, so he did.
He felt the need to fix the franchise. A lot of people hated 3, a lot of people hated 4, and he personally hated the AvPs to the point he didn't even watch them.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:59:17 No.62243433 Report Delete

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>>62243393

That's not a plot problem, you just conveniently left out that the biologist in question was covered from head to toe in futuristic exoskeleton space suit. Please stop pretending that you have ever effectively pointed out a single problem in the plot of Prometheus. It has never happened, and that won't change by repeating the same disproven bullshit over and over.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:59:41 No.62243438 Report Delete

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>>62242659
?
Do the absolutely worthless shitskin "natives" living around the world deserve millions of dollars each in free shit, just for existing?
Who will pay for that?

Theres a reason economic growth has been stagnant in the west
and its because of rampant socialism like that

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:00:22 No.62243453 Report Delete

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>>62243314
Disgusting pleb detected.

Keep showing your hate for great sci-fi so there's less likely a chance we'll see them in the future.
>Sir, they hated Prometheus
>Just as I expected. Roll out double the capeshit

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:00:30 No.62243455 Report Delete

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>>62242339
You're all gonna die man, game over for you. I'm a badass android though, I'll live forever...hahahaha!

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:00:44 No.62243462 Report Delete

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>>62243388
It's a visual medium. The imagery was enough, you could write a million possible explanations for it, none of them would be necessary. Nobody wants to watch Alien, see the derelict ship and think "This is because of what happened in Prometheus"

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:01:02 No.62243466 Report Delete

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>>62243329
>Yeah and it wasn't really marketed (or at least mass marketed) as an Alien movie.
I worked on some of the pre-release marketing, Ridley didn't want it tied to Alien at all and there's plenty of quotes of him saying it's not a prequel, it's just in the same universe and its sequels would take it further removed from Alien. The studios weren't comfortable with this and in hindsight they were right, but he got his way.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:01:59 No.62243485 Report Delete

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I demand more shitty alien films.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:02:10 No.62243490 Report Delete

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>people still bitching about prometheus

honestly, i dont get what gets people so heated about it on either side. i just watched it , said "Oh thats at least better than alien 3 and AVP movies" and moved on.

honestly its not worth it either way

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:02:19 No.62243493 Report Delete

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>>62243394
FIlmmakers don't know jack shit about story. They direct films. Ridley is good at that, but he shouldn't try to think. Prometheus wasn't well written, interesting, or worthy of explaining the imagery in Alien.

Do we need a backstory for every cantina alien in Star Wars?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:03:53 No.62243518 Report Delete

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>>62243438
>Do the absolutely worthless shitskin "natives" living around the world deserve millions of dollars each in free shit, just for existing?
The west does send millions in aid to poor countries, in addition to its internal social programs for its own lower classes. Companies also pay their employees benefits packages, even in the pre-obamacare days.
We don't know anything about the relationships between these entities in Prometheus, but it's not just obvious that it wouldn't be this way any more.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:04:31 No.62243532 Report Delete

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The scariest thing about the Alien franchise is the total unknown of what the fuck the chestburster on the Nostromo ate to grow so large. It went from cat-sized to fuckhuge in, what, twelve hours? It's a spaceship, it's not like they had a lot of flora or fauna around for it to eat. Were there more cats?

Do Xenos somehow convert air or water into mass? How the fuck did it grow?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:04:49 No.62243535 Report Delete

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>>62243490
>Prometheus better than Alien 3
I need to watch A3 again, I remember /tv/ harping on about how the special edition changed it and made it good. Yet the alien gets captured like a bitch and only gets out because they conveniently have some crazy slaphead release it. The original plot of it foiling their plot was superior, but everything else was pretty cool.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:05:38 No.62243559 Report Delete

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>>62243490
>better than alien 3
no

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:06:04 No.62243569 Report Delete

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>>62243493
>FIlmmakers don't know jack shit about story. They direct films. Ridley is good at that, but he shouldn't try to think.
Obviously he agreed with you since he brought in a screenplay writer, one that's celebrated in normie circles even if hated here.
>Do we need a backstory for every cantina alien in Star Wars?
We didn't "need" Star Wars at all, or Alien.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:06:09 No.62243571 Report Delete

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>>62243240
I never watched Lost and I don't think Prometheus was a masterpiece. It is not a horrible mess that fan-fiction fags keep spewing out.

I love watching fan-fiction get destroyed.
Just like when Disney erased the EU for Star Wars. Over 20 years of bloat done by different authors to be considered canon is a joke.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:06:20 No.62243576 Report Delete

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>>62243532
In the novel, and I *think* a deleted/unfinished scene, it was implied it ate a whole bunch of shit in the spaceship equivalent of a pantry. But still, it grows insanely quickly regardless, and I can't remember if it has already "gotten" Dallas by then.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:06:25 No.62243577 Report Delete

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>>62243417

It's hilarious how you can point out /pol/-tards by the fact that they're too stupid to realize showing their agenda against a writer, for example, completely invalidates their perspective. I didn't even watch Lost, but I certainly know the same guy wrote it because you drooling, inbred morons can't resist from raging against a writer or director every other sentence for some weird reason related to asperger's that I will never understand.

Prometheus is definitely intellectually stimulating, relatively speaking, within its genre. There's a ton of metaphor and imagery to pick apart. It raises existential questions and inevitably provokes a feeling of smallness with its scale, both from a visual and storytelling standpoint. I can just imagine some fucking retard who has watched all of Scream, Freddy Kreuger, and Halloween with his arms crossed watching Prometheus saying "that's stupid" in his infantile neckbeard whine as the crew finds the big head room. You people are a fucking joke. I know anonymity gives some perceived meaning to your worthless lives, but just know that even here, every single person with a triple digit IQ rejects your "opinions."

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:06:28 No.62243578 Report Delete

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>>62243423
the 2 AVP movies aren't the worst thing ever but still

>first AVP the studios play it safe and go for a PG-13 rating neutering both aliens and predators
>2nd AVP they try to go full blast R rating but make the movie way to fucking dark in places where you couldn't see much of whats going on at times in the theater and the human characters are just the absolute worst humans I've ever seen in any material ever relating to either series

still Wolf Pred was a boss in AVPR

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:08:25 No.62243606 Report Delete

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>>62243462

>Nobody wants to watch Alien, see the derelict ship and think "This is because of what happened in Prometheus"

Well I wouldn't watch Alien again in the first place because it's a boring, shallow movie and there's literally nothing to discover on a rewatch. But if I did, then I would definitely like to think that. Prometheus added a lot of depth to that universe. I wasn't even slightly interested in it beforehand.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:10:32 No.62243635 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62243698

Wasn't it Cameron who said Avatar takes place in the Aliens universe as well?

We need something happening on the blue furry grasstrap called Pandora weather its Aliens, Predators, or Engineers

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:10:32 No.62243636 Report Delete

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>>62243578
>the 2 AVP movies aren't the worst thing ever
Agreed, some people are butthurt at the very notion of a crossover though - Ridley was.
Spot on about each of them, also that first buildup half hour in AVPR was insufferable.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:10:38 No.62243639 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62243738 >>62243815

>>62243576
Still terrifying. Even if it ate their whole store of food, it shouldn't have been enough to grow so large. Let's say there was enough food there for the whole crew to eat every day for like, what, 2 weeks (they'd be asleep for most of the journey and I doubt the company would pay for more than necessary)?

Even if it ate all that food, it shouldn't be able to grow that quickly. Think about how much food a human child eats before it reaches maturity. Even a faster growing animal like a dog eats fucktons of food, and takes a year or so to get full size, and that Xeno was much larger than a man.

That either indicates that it grow UNBELIEVABLY efficiently after eating, like almost 100% to reach that mass, or it can convert gasses or liquids directly into body mass somehow.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:11:15 No.62243652 Report Delete

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>>62243577
>Prometheus is definitely intellectually stimulating, relatively speaking, within its genre.
Maybe for you.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:12:57 No.62243691 Report Delete

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>>62243571
I should probably say that I didn't think Prometheus was an awful movie at all, which might be hard to believe based on my posts so far. It was beautifully shot, well acted, and a good sci-fi horror movie all around. It's just an unnecessary attachment to Alien, and does nothing but further water down an already weakened franchise.

If it had no ties to Alien, I would have loved it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:13:14 No.62243698 Report Delete

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>>62243635
Scott made Alien and Blade runner in the same universe and confirmed it with Prometheus.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:13:21 No.62243702 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62244027

>>62243652

Right, but that's a reflection of my superiority over you, not the opposite. The thing is that I already know I'm a genius, and there's a high probability that you're mentally retarded given the /pol/ and memespammer infestation on this all but dead board. Your short response is due to the fact that I correctly pointed out your fandom of shitty slasher movies made for idiots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:01 No.62243738 Report Delete

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>>62243639
>Let's say there was enough food there for the whole crew to eat every day for like, what, 2 weeks (they'd be asleep for most of the journey and I doubt the company would pay for more than necessary)?
They also had their initial mission and apparently contingency missions, no need to skimp on a few grand of fucking food when you've got hundreds of millions tied up in the ship.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:59 No.62243758 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62243794

>>62243577
>Prometheus is definitely intellectually stimulating
Uh, no, it's really not. It was a really pretty movie, I'll give it that. Actually pretty good on its own. But there was nothing going on in that movie that should make you think it's hard to follow.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:18:13 No.62243794 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62243919

>>62243758

> But there was nothing going on in that movie that should make you think it's hard to follow.

Intellectually stimulating doesn't mean hard to follow, it just means intellectually stimulating. Also, you're lying if you're claiming that you instantly came to conclusions about what was happening in certain scenes. It's funny that people like you think watching a youtube video explaining a movie retroactively means you understood it fully on the first watch. You didn't, and you're not fooling anyone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:18:48 No.62243801 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62243871

>>62243606
Except it didn't add anything at all besides a bunch of Lost style "twists", and should have just been its own movie, a brand new IP. Then teenage shitters like yourself wouldn't be fucking up a fanbase that hasn't been allowed to die peacefully, and Prometheus wouldn't have to be compared to the Alien franchise and would be free to go where it wants.

It really could have been the start of something amazing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:19:35 No.62243815 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62243966

>>62243639
Yes, I remember when I first saw Alien, completely surprised me when it stalked Brett at how huge it was. It brought about that (brace for pun) alien feel to the film, how unnatural it all was. I can't recall the time frame of events exactly, but did everything happen within the space of 24 hours?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:22:27 No.62243871 Report Delete

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>>62243801

You keep saying words like "twist" as though they act to undermine Prometheus. We know, everything in Prometheus was a boring, generic, unnecessary twist. Your descriptions are very obviously based in a creepy neckbeard agenda to get asshurt over a film, rather than critical analysis of the material. You aren't disguising that well.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:24:47 No.62243919 Report Delete

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>>62243794
Because there was nothing going on to figure out. It's not like Primer or something where the audience is supposed to get lost, it was all very straight forward, with Lost style twists that aren't really twists at all, just "SHOW THEM SOMETHING HAPPENING AND NOT EXPLAIN, THEY'LL THINK THIS IS SO DEEP".

The modern "Sci-Fi" audience just likes movies that make them feel smart. If you make the audience feel like they understand something about space, aliens, light speed travel, ect, you'll have a popular movie. Prometheus was engineered to make the audience feel like geniuses, just like Interstellar and The Martian. But to a viewer not born in the 2000's, it reallly just doesn't.

If your movie is made so that everyone coming out of the theater will start talking about it with Twitter hashtags and trying to "figure it out", it's shit.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:26:57 No.62243966 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62244108 >>62244254

>>62243815
I believe so, since the characters were still acting as though it had just happened, and still pretty immediately shaken up and trying to figure out what the fuck. There was no time skip.

It just scuttled off and then started grabbing bitches. Remember how they were still looking for something small? They had no idea that it just fucking grew x20.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:27:14 No.62243971 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62243982

>>62243919

It's amazing how you retarded faggots transplant the same exact "arguments" for all your shitposting. I can see the endless spam of "reddit this" and "reddit that" all over you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:28:02 No.62243982 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62244006

>>62243971
I'm glad it made you feel very smart :^)

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:29:24 No.62244006 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62244030

>>62243982

Just be aware that decrying popular films by claiming all their depth was actually just "to make the audience feel smart" or "make reddit feel smart" is becoming an easily observable pattern. It's time to switch up your shitposting to something a bit less simplistic and obvious.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:30:20 No.62244027 Report Delete

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>>62243702
>The thing is that I already know I'm a genius
Eh 3/10, you need to be more subtle. Get some sleep, start fresh tomorrow.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:30:31 No.62244030 Report Delete

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>>62244006
Does pretending to detect a pattern make you feel like a fantasy detective :^)

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:33:41 No.62244093 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62248015

*shrugs*
I liked Prometheus, it was better than the last 4 alien related films anyway.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:34:13 No.62244108 Report Delete

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>>62243966
>no "We're gonna need a bigger net"

Comedic opportunity wasted tbh.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:35:31 No.62244138 Report Delete

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>>62240261
This

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:40:24 No.62244254 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62253090

>>62243966
Damn I need to watch Alien again, the suspense when they hunt it with the sensor and cattle prods has always stayed in my memory.

Although one thing that always irked me was how one of them, I think Parker, went into the vents searching for Dallas and only found his flame-thrower. Yet, this is summarized by an abrupt cut and in one line by Parker after cutting from the ventilation scene.

I get it probably would not fit in with the pacing of the movie to have two vent scenes, but it still makes me wonder that Parker or whoever actually went into the vents did so knowing what could be in there.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:46:07 No.62244362 Report Delete

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>>62243060
>lore is better when it isn't spelled out

DaSfag detected, not everything needs to be like your shitty games. There are good ways of clearly explaining the lore without resorting to "show not tell" bs. Besides Prometheus didn't explain jackshit about Alien, just that the SJ is a giant blue albino which is frankly less retarded than space elephants like comicfags believed for decades

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:50:38 No.62244449 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62244475

The movie's biggest faults stem from the fact that Ridley Scott fell for the ancient astronauts meme. He literally believes jesus was an ayylmao.

He should've just read some Lovecraft and based the movie off that. Everyone expected At the Mountains of Madness in space, the trailers hyped everyone up but what we got instead was a high budget Ancient Aliens episode of the most retarded caliber. And then there was Lindelof buttfucking the script

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:52:31 No.62244475 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62244560

>>62244449

Ancient aliens is a compelling myth that inherently raises a lot of fun questions. It doesn't have to be real.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:53:00 No.62244487 Report Delete

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>>62240261

That would do it.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:57:44 No.62244560 Report Delete

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>>62244475
>compelling myth
sure
>lots of fun questions
lost me there, literally every single question it raises stems from ignorance and plain retardation

Again, if I wanted to speculate about aliens planting the seeds of humanity I'd read some good sci fi like Lovecraft, not bullshit like AA

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:58:57 No.62247198 Report Delete

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>>62243082

I've read very few of the comics, and only played the Alien 3 SNES game. Prometheus was shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:42:45 No.62247804 Report Delete

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>>62243313
how can it be an origin movie when the engineers were already formed, a true origin would be watching them be created

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:45:22 No.62247836 Report Delete

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>caring about anything Alien related after 1990

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:45:28 No.62247838 Report Delete

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>>62243490
>better than alien 3

fuck off you fucking underage millenial faggot

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:53:26 No.62247949 Report Delete

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>>62242547
>not selling everyone a new live forever bed every 2.5 years.

Its like you've never seen an iphone. How old are you?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:58:18 No.62247993 Report Delete

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>>62242339
>Blomkampf ripping something off
Why, I never.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:59:46 No.62248015 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62248076

>>62244093
So, Alien 3, Alien 4 and the two AvP movies?

No, fuck you. Alien 3 is great.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 07:03:40 No.62248055 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62248461

>>62243227
Isolation is fucking brilliant. Nails the atmosphere more than any other game in recent years.

I'd give it a shot if you can. It really makes you feel powerless, which is all I've wanted in a horror game for a long time.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 07:05:08 No.62248076 Report Delete

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>>62248015
>This is the typical Fincherfag

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 07:32:25 No.62248461 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62248515 >>62253142

>>62248055
take your nostalgia glasses off, the game was pathetic all it had going was visuals

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 07:36:35 No.62248515 Report Delete

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>>62248461
Nostalgia goggles?
It's only a year old, ya dumb brick.
The visuals weren't as impressive as several of its contemporary releases either.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 07:40:52 No.62248565 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62248910

was annyone thinking of the martian beeing set in the same universe of alien? just way before humans could explore deep space. its probably just a retarted idea after watching the movie but i was hoping for some tweest before i saw it..

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 08:03:43 No.62248910 Report Delete

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>>62248565
What I think is why does every movie by a given director have to be in the same universe for some reason? Even if some of those movies are adaptations of other people's works?

I mean sure if it's fun to think of it that way then that's cool, but to me Alien and Gladiator are not in the same universe. Neither is BHD.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 08:09:05 No.62248992 Report Delete

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>Alien 5 not happening

GAME OVER, MAN

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 08:42:01 No.62249424 Report Delete

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ITT: Retards who don't understand what 'on hold' means.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:08:09 No.62249775 Report Delete

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>>62243288

wew lad

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:10:58 No.62249825 Report Delete

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I liked prometheus tbh, it's decent and entertaining. But i can understand how some people that are serious and autistic about Alien hate it.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:12:51 No.62249851 Report Delete

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>>62242339
Legit graphic novel too. I can't remember the name of it though, earth war maybe?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:17:43 No.62249932 Report Delete

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>>62240170
For the longest time I thought Prometeus was done by Cameron because I couldn't comprehend Ridley fucking up that much

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:23:14 No.62250015 Report Delete

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>>62240170
Maybe they just want to mash it all together.
>same company that made the surgery beds make the magic healing beds.
>original aliens human ship crashes on earth
>xenos "breed" with prawns
>predators find out about new aliens to fight
>predators get ambushed on earth and they team up with will and jaden. Jaden is now a fully vetted monster killer and will Smith has robot exoskeleton
>a new franchise is born from a pool of fermenting shit
Forgive me if this sounds off in any way. I just woke up

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:25:18 No.62250043 Report Delete

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The movie had promise, but the execution was bad. It's impossible to watch it without noticing everything wrong with it. I really wanted to like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 09:33:23 No.62250156 Report Delete

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Why not both, and an AVP reboot by Robert Rodriguez while they're at it?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 10:27:40 No.62251119 Report Delete

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Scott should continue making original sci-fi movies instead of the mediocre alien prequels.
As for Blomkamps sequel is just as unnecessary as the sequel to Blade Runner. I really hope both movies get cancelled.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 11:41:59 No.62252696 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>62252776 >>62253739 >>62254618

>>62240170
>Thousands of unique Alien novels and comics to use as source material

>"Lemme make another film with Ripley shoe-horned into the plot somehow."

Can someone explain why they keep doing this? What is their ibsession with having to have it centered around Ripley? Why not base a film off one of the comics?

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 11:45:24 No.62252776 Report Delete

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>>62252696
For me personally, the appeal lies in constant, loyal companionship. Being with somebody who never bores you, who is always available to hear you and listen to you. Somebody who understands you, supports you in whatever way you need. Somebody with whom you build memories, and who cherishes and protects you, your dreams, and your children. That's what I want to see with this franchise.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 11:58:39 No.62253090 Report Delete

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>>62244254
I enjoyed the cut scene where Ripley finds Dallas and what's left of Brett. It showed how the Alien could reproduce on it's own.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:00:30 No.62253142 Report Delete

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>>62248461
>He couldn't get past the medical bay level

Yours is the argument I've heard from everyone who couldn't get past that section. It was made to seperate the men from the boys.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:20:58 No.62253650 Report Delete

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>>62240170
Before Chappie Blomkamp was the guy who made a great sci-fi movie and followed it up with a mediocre but refreshingly R-rated one, someone who probably could do the Alien franchise justice. After Chappie he's been exposed as a one-hit-wonder hack.The hype for him making another Alien film isn't there anymore

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:25:24 No.62253739 Report Delete

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>>62252696
the Alien film franchise has always been about Ripley's experience with the xenomorphs. It's less shoehorning her in than it is writing the plot around wherever she ended up last.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:25:59 No.62253753 Report Delete

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>>62240170
Maybe you should have read the paragraph instead of just the title..

5 is on hold for a prometheus sequel so what you has about both of them has no meaning..

fucking autists

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:00:10 No.62254618 Report Delete

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>>62252696
>using comics as a source material
>ever

No thanks.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:08:02 No.62256446 Report Delete

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>>62242547
Because it's just some fucking software, there's almost no difference in how it would operate besides a couple different organs.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:41:57 No.62257211 Report Delete

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>>62240268
>grossed 500+mill
>failed

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