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>>119814243 Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya >Group chatroom steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795
>Our work-in-progress wiki http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki >Dom4 Manual http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf >Dom4 Inspector This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/ >Play by email guide: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551 >Pastebin http://pastebin.com/JMmSrpdE >Debug Mod: For testing battle formations and spells
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod >Where do I get it? It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is ded.
There is no functional pirate version.
>THE BASICS >Read the manual >Read the pastebin >Read the memes >I want to play X Heavy infantry nations with simple magic for noobs: MA Ulm, Abysia, LA Man
Human nations with a lot of diversity: T'ien Ch'i (any age), Arcoscephale (EA and LA), EA Ermor
Giant nations with a major bless: Niefelheim, Fomoria, Ashdod
Necromancy: C'tis, Sceleria, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Lemuria, Nazca
Sneaky Nations: Vanheim, TNN, Eriu, MA Man, Xibalba, Caelum
Edge Nations: Lanka, Sauromatia, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Hinnom
Anonymous
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First for aboleth traps
Anonymous
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More like
Anonymous
>check thread >still alive >go do my turn >thread dies
Anonymous
when does winter sales start again, my patience is wearing pretty damn thin waiting to buy this game
Anonymous
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YOU ALL LET IT DIE AGAIN
Anonymous
Why is domg dying so often? Did all of the casuals give up on he game at the same time or something?
Nobby Fomoria
The last flying samurai died this turn and I took Yomi's capital. Two players went Ai also.
Anonymous
>>119940474 Tengu, Ermor, and LotG posters ran off
Anonymous
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>>119941031 I'm still here, I've just had fairly limited time to bump threads with anime or do my turns. When i had time
>>119938431 this happened.
SunPlain Admin
Fukushima is now staling. Is anyone interested in subbing for him?
Anonymous
r8 this m8
Anonymous
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>>119941380 It's fine and you should win
Anonymous
>>119941380 Need reinvigoration. Also you don't need to cast lightning res
Anonymous
>>119941380 *casts leech a few times*
Nigga u ded
Anonymous
>>119941380 Elemental Armor has 4 enc. Spellcasting fatigue will quickly rack up. Drop some spells.
Anonymous
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>>119941012 Also brown snake just died to skellyspam and bottles of water. Not really relevant but it's nice to see water bottles working.
Stalewarriors Xibalba
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Pan, are you there?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>119942134 No, it's one of the weakest nations in EA.
Anonymous
>>119942273 Their mages look pretty good. 45 gold S1 casters, 170 gold E2 S1/S1 E2 casters. Are their units that bad?
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Ichtyid mod guy here. I promised to make an algae nation some time ago, but had no free time. But this week was relatively free, so I finally made it.
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/ea-sargassia-kelp-and-coral http://www.mediafire.com/download/7an36c6jhkw1u5o/sargassia_ea_v0.9.rar Going to update Lentia and Neritia next to fix the underwater rust issue.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>119941012 That map is pretty boring. I just see one big homogenous land mass with some water surrounding it. I wish the less balanced, more interesting maps like parganos got more traffic.
Anonymous
Any tips on tugging golems?
Anonymous
Does anyone think a Pacific Islander/Maori nation would be sweet? a low tech, high elemental magic nation with sailing and powerful summons like pic related?
Anonymous
>>119943343 Fuck you paraganos is absolute shit. It's not even pretty just so fucking terribly balanced, not to mention nearly impossible to utilize map move 2+ unless you have flying.
Anonymous
should we make a wiki page titled "it depends", discussing the almost impossible to quantify choice in the game?
Anonymous
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>>119943661 Ask Oceania from TornVale.
Anonymous
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>>119942406 Their mages are okay, but they aren't even most efficient at S or communion shenanigans in the era - they got no turbo communions or easy national summons to feed into communion for buffs and diversity, and their shit costs more than Sauromantian/Arco.
Their troops are human mediocrity. There's very little reason for your neighboring elves or giants or whatever to not roll over you year one. Hell, even human nations can do it
Boars are spamable but their MR is abysmal.
You are fucked early on, you've got some early midgame power and then you are fucked again.
>>119943963 >not to mention nearly impossible to utilize map move 2+ unless you have flying The map is a dominions 3 leftover, so map movement is all sorts of fucked up.
It really is hell to play, even in singleplayer
>>119944035 Maybe. I don't think it's a matter of choice though, it's more of a case of what you have and what you are dealing with.
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>>119944395 Take lots of scales (growth, order, magic preferentially) and astral or fire+death magic.
Expand with Mammoths and/or Spire Horn Warriors.
Rush Thunderstrike/Storm/Stormpower and use lots of Airya Seraphs to spam Thunderstrike.
That's pretty much all you need for early-midgame. What you do next will depend on the situation, but EA Caelum has a bunch of good options.
Anonymous
>have super positive scales >including Order 3 and Luck 3 >still lose provinces to bad luck events >mfw
Anonymous
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Aaaaand Neritia and Lentia updated in case anybody cares.
Anonymous
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Game: NoStalersAllowed
Anonymous
How do you counter Undead countering spells with nations like Lanka or Lemuria? Like cleansing wave or dust to dust
Anonymous
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>>119946838 Bring more undead.
Anonymous
>>119946838 >Lemuria YOu are cucked
>Lanka Use non undead troops.
Anonymous
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>>119948108 But i don't like getting cucked
Anonymous
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Miles Gloriosus Sceleria
That was awfully nice of you, Ulm._______ :^) _______
Anonymous
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>>119951793 Cleansing water doesn't check for MR.
Anonymous
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Why is it ALWAYS Ulm or Man to be the last staling peace of garbage?
Anonymous
So, what is the aim with the wiki?
MG Mari
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>>119952607 First good news in awhile. That gay-couple Ulm + Ermor can give headache to anyone.
Anonymous
>>119941298 weird. i was under the impression the guy had a good amount of land.
Anonymous
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>>119944395 watch closely the paths you require for your super mages commanders summons because they will be your lategame diversity. you can get away with very little pretender points spent into them because of boosters.
i like scales on them but they are vunerable early on so someone might suggest a dormant titan.
if you are serious about your research you can unlock thunderstrike spam at like turn 17.
i strongly suggest you to scout-ping almost everything to have pitch perfect mammoths expansion. for that i suggest recruiting one or two scouts or even one of your F1 priest mages very early. i did it turn 1 and it was a very valuable unit.
Sunplain triffurt
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>>119962102 Pretty sure a decent amount of his territory has Ibenote's Dominion. There's also a dragon on one of his forts for some reason.
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>>119965151 It was ~25-30 PD iirc.
Niefelheim went AI immediately after that turn, and there was much laughter.
Stalewarriors Xibalba
Pan, are you there? there is something we need to talk about.
Stale Pan
>>119966778 You mean about you trying to cut me off from completing my cap ring?
Stale Pan
Anonymous
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>>119967262 Dude what's taking you so long?
Anonymous
>>119967262 >>119967450 oh wait a second your cap is there?
so that's why you were talking about your cap ring before. My scouting is shit and i thought your cap was in the inner part of that mountains or something like that.
so will you stop memeing on me if you get Yesha and Ilkhan's domain? (also you can get western udgru forest, it's not that i needed it or something ;_;)
I don't want a level 10 war in a fucking 1300 provinces map
Anonymous
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>>119968854 i mean i don't want a turn 10 war, my brain isn't working right now
Staewarriors Admin
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>>119968854 >Affraid of a level 10 war Bitch please, he'd take it up to 11.
Stale Pan
Stale Pan
>>119968854 Terms: no forts in Yesha or Yesha hills, get out of Yesha until I have captured Ilkhan's Domain, get out of western forest
Stale Pan
>>119968854 This turn I take Yesha. Next turn you take Yesha Hills and I take Ilkhan's Domain. Two turns from now you take Yesha and I take Western Forest.
Anonymous
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>>119945962 Events can get queued up in a province up to a year ahead of their actually occurring (because Fortune-Teller is an ability).
You do need to keep stuff in your dominion for a while before the attacks peter out. Although yes, it is annoying as hell.
Anonymous
Haven't met anyone but I'm pretty shit at expansion
Staewarriors Admin
>>119972783 Are you Formia or Helheim?
Stale Pan
>>119971929 >>119971407 >>119970974 >>119968854 Deal or no seal?
You'll get a virgin (we swear we didn't fuck her (yet)) dryad and we'll get a delicious shota fukkboi bat and call it a day
Anonymous
>>119971407 that sounds reasonable to me. I was thinking you could keep tesha hills if you want it.
by the way:
>>119971929 are you sure you want me to capture yesha hills that soon? by that turn your army won't be back to your lands
Stalewarriors Xibalba
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>>119973643 you seem like a pretty cool memer to me.
also
>>119973775 is me.
Stale Pan
>>119973775 My army is staying there. Countryside resort for my PURE AND UNTOUCHED NEVER YIFFED BEFORE HETEROSEXUAL NON-ORGY MONOGAMOUS DRYAD WAIFU and her centaur husbando
Stalewarriors Arcoscephale
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>>119973621 forget to fill out one lousy captcha and you lose the subject line
Stalewarriors Xibalba
>>119973956 so then we have a deal, right?
turn 12 you get yesha
turn 13 you get ilkhan and i get yesha hills
turn 14 you get western forest and i get yesha
Stale Pan
>>119975225 Yes. And no forts in those two provinces ever. In return I will never fort up that place in my cap ring and send you orgy -- I mean pure handholding and tea sipping party -- invites.
Stalewarriors Xibalba
>>119975665 i'm not sure whether my beta bats will enjoy the orgies, but the invites are pretty much accepted!
You will get a little bat pet in exhange. Feed it and cuddle it everyday or it will get sad :3c
Stale Pan
>>119976076 Oh it'll have to work for its
daily ration of thick horseman and minotaur semen Anonymous
>>119973956 You know what Xibalba should do? Kill the "couple" once to be rid of the centaur, then use a succubus with ber amulet to seduce the 'grieving' dryad.
Then use the dyrad to repreatedly try to seduce everything possible.
Stalewarriors
>>119976076 >>119976471 Y'all are first on the genocide list.
Anonymous
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>>119938585 Just buy it then
Anonymous
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>>119943736 Didn't someone already make a pretty good mod nation of that
Anonymous
>>119977091 Wow rude. It's not like I'm just going to bend over for you or something!
Or maybe I will~ >>119976868 L
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Dryad is not for lewd! Dryad is for monogamous and pure!!
Anonymous
>>119977529 Dryad is for being a flithy slut and destroying all the rest of Pangaea.
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>>119978098 Y-you're a bully!!
Stoppit dryads don't wear pants everyone's going to see!!! Anonymous
Can multiple assassinations happen on the same turn in the same province? Like if I have two assassins and tell them to assassinate will they both kill two different commanders?
Anonymous
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>>119978823 Yes. As long as there is enough commanders there that is.
Anonymous
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This is why beastmen need to be removed immediately
Vanheim TheNoobening
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Is Abysia on here? I think we need to have a chat about those provinces you've just taken.
VanillaDoD Caelum
That's two nations domkilled by a guy with one province.Now if only they didn't still have a 300 man army parked on top of said province ;_;
Stalewarriors Helheim
>>119973621 Not Helheim, because I've met Caelum and I see the dominion of someone else but I don't know who it is.
Stalewarriors Admin
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>>119979968 That's me, and god damn it I don't want to be near birds.
Anonymous
>>119979731 >two nations domkilled by a guy with one province What?
Anonymous
>>119979731 if an army belongs to a defeated nation it will route at the first battle.
just send a scout.
also how the hell did that happen?
Chalice of Salty Boars
This is how you Maverni right guys
VanillaDoD Caelum
>>119980169 Caelum in DoD starts out with 3 provinces to try to make up for its godawful starting position. The Throne of the Pantokrator got placed in one of those, so I nabbed it on turn 3.
I ended up in a war with both Kailasa and Ulm, and since their armies would massacre my birds I fought by running away and hiding in my one fort while my awake pretender, plus a bunch of Seraphine stealth-preachers flew around and killed their dominions. Kailasa got domkilled within the first year (maybe? Might have been a bit into the second).
Ulm just fell, largely thanks to Marverni destroying some of their temples, but its already year 4 and I have no provinces/money/research so I'm still pretty fucked. Interesting game, though.
Anonymous
>>119981063 That's actually pretty cool.
Anonymous
Are you kitten me right now?
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>>119975225 >>119975665 >>119976076 >2 nations with palisades, no resource problems, good mobility and stealth on almost every troop and commander agree to not build forts on few provinces of their border eh, this sounds so stupidly pointless.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>119981046 what bless?
is that really good?
>>119981347 reminder to expand with empoisoner UW and slowly take provinces, slowly working upto the throne
Anonymous
>>119981559 I can already see someone else's dominion.
Anonymous
>>119981347 Cavemen aren't that tough, you should just go kill them. Unless that cave province is a dead end, or something.
Chalice of Salty Boars
>>119981559 >>119981490 W9 E9 N5
and nah it's not that great. Maybe with some mage support. Shoulda gone B9 or something.
VanillaDoD Caelum
>>119980916 Didn't know that. Does PD route too?
>>119981317 It was fun. I'm probably just bad, but I really don't understand how Caelum is supposed to normally compete on this map, sandwiched between Kailasa's mass sacreds and Ulm's Steel Maidens (and Helheim, actually).
Anonymous
>>119981878 >Shoulda gone B9 or something. Pretty much what I thought after watching Marverni in Nobbyland.
Som many boars you really should go with some sort of mobile B9. Would give you viable boars and open up lategame a bit.
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>>119981797 >>119981559 I was referring to the black candle which is just a slap to the face ontop of my lousy starting position
Anonymous
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>>119981896 It doesn't "route" - the units and PD are removed before the fighting happens, so you take an empty provinces (or fight another nation, naturally)
Chalice of Salty Boars
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>>119982153 I'm still learning a lot of mechanics eg it's easy for me to boost a guy up to H3 with stargazers and have divine blessings for most armies, something I didn't realize straight up. Also you have to set your dudes to defend in forts unless you want them to fight besieging armies.
Anonymous
>>119981896 wow, I thought you'd be in a better position since you domkilled your neighbors.
This game is going to be interesting.
Anonymous
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>>119981781 doesn't mean he's underwater, and you'll probably realize if he is after taking one province.
Anonymous
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>>119981878 >W9 E9 N5 holy crap. i would never go W9 on that stuff, there is no appeal. who gives a shit about faster trampling.
E9 is only decent for mages. probably E9N9 would have been better for everyone.
Anonymous
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>>119981896 if every province is istant-conquest you can probably take their empire in few turns with flying commanders.
Anonymous
>>119982654 >This game is going to be interesting. Vanheim elves just killed Helheim elves. C'tis is all over the place. Ermor and Sauro are bashing heads. Oceania is trying to bite of a piece of Ermor while they're busy dealing with Sauros and failing from the looks of it. Don't know what Arco is doing, but they're kind of small, might be fighting C'tis.
It's already interesting.
Chalice of Salt Therodos
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>>119981046 A triumph of fluffyness, magnificent.
Fish
>>119983718 I literally do not have anything to do
Naked ladies asked me to raid Ermor so I'm doing that
I have over 200 nature gems and all my provinces are max sitesearched in all elemental paths
and I still don't have a single air site Anonymous
How do I deal with 20 Watchers guarding a throne as EA Arco? I decided to research enchantment up to 5 for Thunderward, but do I have any faster options?
Boars
>>119985336 >200 nature gems Give them all to me :^)
Fish
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>>119985427 Maybe I will, in return for a single land province! Forest prefered.
Vanilla Arco
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>>119983718 Ya I'm just fighting C'tis for the experience, really. All the thrones are to the west of me, but my enemy to the north won't stop attacking me. Even if I can defeat them, it will probably be too late to have any chance of winning the game. I'm still enjoying the game though.
Fish
>>119985427 Literally 250 gemmerinos
I'll give you 200 for a single forest land province though, for permanent duration
Vanheim
>>119985865 You can have The Climb, Anchorhold, and South Faerwood if you craft those into Vinesheilds for me
Fish
>>119986154 Twenty vine shields for three provinces?
I can deliver in two turns if nobody outbids you.
Boars
>>119986543 He's just going to betray you, mate. Never trust an elf.
Vanheim
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>>119986543 South Faerwood has a nice piece of real estate on it too
Vanheim
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>>119986825 No reason to. We can be allies fishbro.
Fish
Boars
>>119986543 Also, don't you have province 70? Why do you need another land province?
Don't power his thugs up even more. He wrecked Helheim with them, they don't need any more powering up.
Boars
Hey, fish, aside from provinces, do you need any gems. I have a shit ton. I'll trade you for those nature gems.
Fish
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>>119987229 I need a forest to fornicate in
Not a lot of privacy on an island
Vanheim
>>119987402 My dwarves are the finest smiths in all the known world.
I'm approaching construction 6, ally with me and I'll craft you stuff.
Boars
>>119987681 You want me to ally you?
Vanheim
>>119987873 No that was a counter offer for fish
Fish
>>119987953 10 this turn, 10 next turn, send after that, then take provinces
Good trade!
Boars
>>119987953 I'd ally you tbh. I'd really rather focus south than have to deal with you. Also, your fire brands aren't going to be as useful against my sacreds. We could create a tripartite alliance of a sort.
If not...
>>119988165 Fish, hold up, I'll give you province 69 (perfect for fornicating) and and up to 60 air gems and if you want earth gems as well. If you want crafting, I'm already at const 6 unlike the elf.
Vanheim
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>>119988165 Sounds good, we will vacate the property.
Boars
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>>119988395 Also, 69 has fort, a lab and a good 3 gem site in it.
Fish
>>119988395 >>119987953 How about 10 shields for elves and 100 gems for boars and we all live happy and fornicate plentily?
No exchanging of provinces needed
Better or worse?
Anonymous
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>>119987209 >Sea Dogs not winning. Vanheim
>>119988656 >>119988656 I*d be ok with that, what say you boars? shall we 3 invade the uncivilized lands to the south together? I've got sailing and stealth, you've got land access, fish have amphibious access.
Vanilla Green Inferno
I'd hop in on this, but I don't really need nature gems, and can't afford to lose provinces given that me and Ermor are still fighting.
Fish
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>>119989128 Ermor is a jerk
A jeeeeerk!
Boars
>>119988965 I'm fine with this as long as the "uncivilized lands to the south" doesn't include me. Don't you have access to the C'tis?
Vanheim
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>>119989443 True. I will invade the barbarians to the east then.
Tornvale Dedburds
>find Temple of the Solar Bull
Anonymous
>>119990581 The Solar Bull is an ancient Ermoran deity predating the prophet shrouded in white, who's mystery cult saw a major resurgence in the later years of the Empire.
Anonymous
>>119981046 Hm. It should die to Wind of Death, right? Not in that game, but I had a similar situation.
OH GOD 5MR IT WILL DIE RIGHT AWAY, AND NO BLOOD BLESS WILL TAKE EFFECT. OH MY FUCKING GOD, I'M GONNA WIN. Anonymous
>>119991181 >Beast Mastery Tornvale Dedburds
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>>119990939 it lets you recruit an LA Pythium unit that has the LA Pythium text.
Hence time travel.
Anonymous
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>>119991317 No N, sadly. But that would work super good. Thaum 8 is sad though.
TornVale Concerned Citizen
So, should we do something about R'lyeh's globals or not?
Tornvale R'lyeh
>>119992065 What for? One's a dinky 5 pearls a turn and the other only works in my dominion (which is limited to my territory. Didn't bother taking a bunch of dom).
Don't bully the toilet either.
Anonymous
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>>119993953 Because
I want my globals up too. Anonymous
So this is like my first game ever.
Anonymous
>>119995383 Imprisoned cheapest
o3p3g3l3m3
Just rely on numbers and economy for your first games, don't bother with doing anything fancy for god until you get some basic grasp on how things work.
Anonymous
>>119995383 If you really wanna break into death get order 3, Sloth 2, Temp neutral, G3, and high magic or luck based on preference. squeeze death up to 5 so you can put two boosters on him and spam tartarian gates. prepare to realize you using a shitty chassis for this nation. Just go D9 if you wanna spam wind riders in the early game for fun and giggles
>>119995667 >going P3 with EA archo >wasting the superior Philosopher researcher Anonymous
>>119995667 Can I pick this dude wearing a pineapple for a hat instead?
Look at this fucking jackass lmao
Anonymous
>>119995824 I like them but they are like, only 3 odd research points up on mystics with full sloth and magic, and mystics get baller paths while philosophers get zilch, they're just cheap.
Anonymous
This is the silliest shit ever, can I still get a refund?
Anonymous
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>>119996314 No.
>>119995868 That's an orange, you uncultured swine. I bet you say "porno manga" instead of "hentai".
Anonymous
>>119996271 the problem is your want mystics on the battlefield, not in the lab. Sure youll use a couple for forging but your lab rats are by and far your philosophers
Anonymous
>>119995868 Do it.
He also wields a giant pole that he uses to stick up his own ass.
No homo Anonymous
>>119995824 >wasting fort turns on philosophers when you could recruit fucking mystics >taking sloth when your troops are pretty resource heavy He's going to have troubles getting a grasp on the game if he can't recruit troops to deal with ai hordes.
Anonymous
>>119995824 >>119996454 >recruiting philosophers over Oreiads or Mage Engineers Anonymous
>>119996461 And that's bad because...?
Anonymous
>>119996314 It looks like she's jerking off two giant, writhing cocks, doesn't it?
Anonymous
>>119996545 yes the troops are resource heavy but they are also not that great outside holding the line. All your real damage comes from magic.
>>119996602 mage engineers I agree, but Spamming Oreiads is not that great. Anything they do your mystics can do at a cheaper cost. If you're really in dire need of a thug someone some bad boy to do it instead.
honestly if he wnats to learn the game with pure economy and troop spam he should play ermor not greeks
Anonymous
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>>119996697 It looks likes she's fucking selling snakes.
Anonymous
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>>119996625 I never said it was bad :)
Anonymous
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>>119996697 What?
Why do you think that? Why would you even think that?
Anonymous
This looks retarded as fuck, but whatever you niggas say.
Anonymous
>>119996697 She's actually milking two mother of gods heads.
Anonymous
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>>119997050 I like it. even though I'm the guy arguing for Sloth 2. have fun cowboy!
Anonymous
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>>119997050 >He fell for it what a scrub Anonymous
>>119996779 >mystics >casting air or nature spells You get Oreiad so you can access the exclusive air and nature magic spells. I mean, if you don't want Storm, Fog Warriors, Howl, Creeping Doom or even Relief then go ahead, don't recruit Oreiads.
Anonymous
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>>119997365 >AI casts releif >As a result lose a major battle, >As a result lose the war >Elves win Great advice anon
Anonymous
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>>119997090 >snakes Each time I see snakes, I think of that page.
Also, the Pantokrator is really a song of a bitch.
Anonymous
Oh my god there's so much stuff I'm awful at strategy what do I do
Anonymous
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>>119997902 116 slingers each turn
Anonymous
Anonymous
>beings a new game against the AI to relax >turn 2 >invade my first province >my army get rekked by the indie >pretender is killed >leave the game >uninstall the game >burn the computer >chop it into pieces >rape the one who sold it to me >go to microsoft's >get shot on sight before I can axe anyone
Anonymous
>>119997902 cardaces cause you went scales
you can probs get away with never using chariots
Anonymous
>>119998123 It's a pretty good wakeup call to see your powerful titan get beaten by a dozen guys with sticks
Anonymous
>>119998125 They're just 2 resources more expensive than Peltasts, why would I get Peltasts ever? They look squishy. Also, what do I do with my scout and Myrmidon Champ?
I fucking love the unit descriptions in this game Anonymous
>>119998501 How about you bet beaten by inbred morons with sticks?
Anonymous
>>119998546 peltasts have a ranged javelin attack
Anonymous
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>>119998671 I'm so sorry, anon. Where did the indie militia touch you?
Anonymous
>>119998546 >why would I get Peltasts ever Generally you don't, but there are some situations where you might want to.
Lategame you get access to spells which make the default armor on units mostly irrelevant. At that point peltasts do have an advantage over cardaces with faster recruitment and javelins.
Against enemy archers set to "Fire Archers", you might want Peltasts to draw fire away from your squishier slingers. Peltasts will be targeted with "Fire Archers" because they can throw javelins whereas Cardaces will not.
>>119999184 Javelins are kinda shit though.
Anonymous
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>>119999524 still a ranged attack bra
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>>119999524 Do I recruit a commander too or
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>>119999524 Javelins aren't bad for expansion purposes. They make barbarian provinces less dangerous to take, at least.
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>>119999875 Generally every turn you should.
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>>119999875 Get a myrmidon commmander if you need someone to lead soldiers around, a mystic otherwise.
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>>119999875 Commanders, especially mages, are locked to one per turn, and in general you can only recruit your national ones in forts.
Hence it's usually advised to recruit "indie" commanders that have no magic to move your troops about and use every fort-turn to produce mages.
However Expansion (the first ten turns or so) is different.
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>>119997050 i can see good arguments for saying " fuck everything i am going scales" on Arcoscephale.
but if you drop one scale, just one scale, of magic or heat and you go Death 3 fire 1, death 2 earth 1 fire1 or some shit like that you would see lot of opportunities being created by your god lategame since Arco doesn't easily break into death.
death gems are a resource and you want to use every resource lategame.
Anonymous
>>119997365 yes all those amazing spells which you on'y need ONE OREIAD PER ARMY TO CAST they have their role but you shouldn't be spamming them left and right
Anonymous
>>120001267 They can summon shit too though
Stalewarriors Xibalba
Berytos-kun, are you there?
Stalewarriors Berytos
Stalewarriors Xibalba
>>120001583 shouldn't we talk about borders? do you want steam or memeing it here?
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>>120001396 but it doesn't mean you should be spamming them out of your capital every turn. 2-4 in the early game for sight searching. and then you recruit a few moreonce you get the spells to intergrate them into your main armies and summon the magical beings, but for anything else I rather recruit more mystics/philosophers or some windriders
Stalewarriors Berytos
>>120001748 Can't get on Steam right now, maybe later.
I'm cool as long as you don't go further east, but I'm not sure what your situation is and there's still empty space north and south of me so, you know, whatever.
Anonymous
>>120001267 >ONE OREIAD PER ARMY TO CAST Wow.
I'm sure a single oreiad is going to a bunch of spells in a fast and timely manner.
And if you want some of them recast, you can add them too to the bottomless spell script oreiads are bundled with.
Stalewarriors Xibalba
>>120002036 i can see your cap and i'm not getting in your ring or your 2-ring.
I'm also not going to get the throne on your north.
I'm going to conquer Deepstil Vale and Northern vesve forest (the ones straight up from that farm you have in my borders), the slinger-elephant one and the forest with monkeymen, but I'm not going anywhere further on the east.
Is that fine for you? I would prefer not giving away free info, that's why I'm talking about province names.
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>>119997050 Take one point away from temperature scale. Take one point off prod. Temp scales barely matter outside of a 2+ point swing, and prod 3 doesn't open any events and you will literally never have enough gold to use all of your resources in even half of your forts.
That said you want dom6 and some magic paths, doesn't have to be all that many but any you don't have are usually good (D4F1 should be possible with 80 extra points)
Anonymous
>>120002745 how many oreiads do you really need per army? one or two is enough. It's not like you need to cast fog warriors and relief more then once and if your using them to spam evocation then your just wasting them on something mystics do better. Maybe in the late game when you have massive armies and you wanna spam every army buff in existence then yeah 4-6 but we're talking about either you should be spamming one out every single turn; not wither they should be recruited at all or not
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>>120002848 Like I said I can't get on Steam atm so I can't check what provinces you're talking about exactly, but I suppose as long as that leaves me some room around that farm province you're talking about I'm cool with that. That place is a nice fort location and I'd like to have a few provinces left to draw resources from. I'm mostly expanding the other way right now so I won't likely get in your way anyway.
Anonymous
>>120002982 >It's not like you need to cast fog warriors more then once You need to fuck off with your shit opinions.
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Is this retarded?
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>>120001267 >>120001396 They're also seducers, which lets you use them to steal enemy units or act as assassins.
Stalewarriors
>27 provinces and yet to even sight a black candle
Anonymous
>>120003335 what kinda games have you been playing where you need to cast fog warriors more then once per battle?
Anonymous
>>120003748 9 provinces mate
expansion master here
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>>120003748 I'm glad you're enjoying your singleplayer game.
Anonymous
OK so I killed the dudes here, what do I do? Am I supposed to get province defense? Do I just keep moving this army around or do I go back to get reinforcements? I'm legit the worst strategy game player I know.
Stalewarriors
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>>120004872 probable got an event that gave a free castle
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120004872 Or he started next to an Indie Fort filled with ridiculous stuff and saw it as a challenge.
Stalewarriors
>>120003956 So cute. Are you therodos or something like that?
Anonymous
>>120003851 What kinda games have you been playing where people don't bring mage support? Any evo focused midgame mage (arco is a good example of that) stack is capable of poping mistform on dozens of squares per turn.
Even early game has some aoe 5-9 spells and
late midgame has so much more options.
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>>120003748 >tfw barely more provinces captured than turns elapsed Stalewarriors
>>120005101 wait a second is there that kind of province? I kind of scouted half the map and didnt find one (or maybe the north is this cold and lonely ;_;)
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>>120003748 >25 provinces is my theoretical expansion limit before i have to go to war with somebody Stalewarriors anonymous loser
>map move 1 >surrounded by indie mages >done with easy ones >have to take on a bigger one >get raped
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>>120005170 then why even bother casting fog warriors more then once if they are just gonna get evo popped again? I guess to prevent the meat from dying not as quickly but to me I rather work on buffs to protect form those evocations instead rather then keeping popping up fog warriors 2-3 times just because why not. Also this still doesn't convince I should be sending every single of my cap turns past early game popping out 400 gold upkeep sinks when I can just pop out the amount I need and invest and more long term and gold effecient mages
Stale TNN
Hinnom, are you in here? We should have negotiated before about expansion, but we can do it now.
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120005316 I doubt you've scouted half the map, that's over 500 provinces, even being Pan in the middle of forests would have a hard time doing that much scouting.
But yes, there are, including in the north Dorakaa the capital of the Empire of Luz (I'm not even making this shit up.)
Stale Jews
>>120005826 Well, there's not really a whole lot to negotiate.
You keep expanding in this direction and I end up being pretty cornered and we have a problem.
You go to some other direction and we can be friends and I can sell you my surplus of unused little girls.
Stale TNN
>>120006205 Use the gateway at the end.
Stale Jews
>>120006397 There are already people there.
Haven't scouted the second gateway yet to know who's behind it though.
Both are pretty heavily protected either way (big stacks of heavy cav or some elephants) so they aren't really an instant option.
I was planning to get out through mountain pass area once I have a chance.
Anonymous
>>120005869 Hello I am Pan
I am nowhere near any forests and map generation placed my capital inside a mountain range with one province of my cap ring OUTSIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN RANGE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Stale TNN
>>120006760 How about the port that goes south?
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>>120006783 Ekbir, the capital of the titular Caliphate of Ekbir should be close to you, south-west I think?
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>>120006783 ha, my first two multiplayer games
game 1, coastal wasteland
game 2, wasteland in a cave mouth
shit scales, fun games
Stalewarriors
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>>120005590 who are you?
also who else hates undetectable wind mages in militia/archer provinces?
Stale Jews
>>120006976 Oh shit. I've just understood what you meant by gateway.
I've only saw ports till now, both are the ones I meant by protected provinces.
Portal seems like a decent option right now, yeah, I'll be taking it.
Just leave me the slice of southern coastal line then, it and portal should serve me well enough as an exit.
Stale TNN
>>120007908 So I can conquer the indies next to where you currently are?
Anonymous
>all this Stalewarriors talk >tfw my only neighbors only talk while I'm at work
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>>120008512 then maybe you should talk to them, baka!
dont be so tsundere, anon ;)
Stale Jews
>>120008176 Yeah. Just want a slice of shores, but I'll take a shot at senerlad area (those two provinces on a drawn river) if you aren't there in the next two turns or something. I can use them to temporarly bypass the elephant port on the way to shores.
Anonymous
Stale TNN
>>120008829 That shore is going to go into my cap circle, unless you mean the shores of the mainland where a throne is.
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>>120008848 Fuck, forgot name.
Stalewarriors Xibalba
>tfw everybody talks to other people it seems all of us are expanding like real memelords, good job guys.
Except this guy:
>>120003748 who probably is just walking on circles or something
By the way, is Stale agartha here?
Stale Jews
>>120009095 I meant 1081-1134 shoreline leading to the next port. If this is not an option because your cap is there, then it's pretty shitty, but I guess I can live with it.
I'll take a shot at 1128 in a few turns, but that doesn't open up a whole lot. So I'll have to see what lies in space
Anonymous
>>120004624 >OK so I killed the dudes here, what do I do? Take more provinces. Eventually you'll find another pretender. Since this is AI, they'll probably decide to (ineptly) attack you very soon after you meet them, so be ready for that.
>Am I supposed to get province defense? Yes. Against players you usually don't want more than a couple of points, against AI you can get lots if you want.
>Do I just keep moving this army around or do I go back to get reinforcements? That depends how many losses you took. If you're down to less than 70% or so of your original party you should probably head back for some more troops.
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>>120004624 The worst strategy player jumps in, decides he's best, and refuses to learn. There's no shame with a game as complex as Dominions to ask for advice.
Learning when your expansion party has to call it quits and be merged with another or sent home is a skill learnt with time, alongside learning what indies are tough for what side (Heavy cavalry are pretty much always tough)
This guy has answered your questions in the specific
>>120010039 Stale TNN
>>120010026 Yeah my cap is right there, 1115 is my circle, wish you could get more land, you can have 1134 and the Senelrad though.
Anonymous
>>120009659 Are you aiming to take anything in the Clatspurs, by the way?
Stale Jews
>>120010520 You can have 134.
I'll stick to Senelrad as my furthermost expansion area and see if alternative solutions can work.
Will hit you up if we can cooperate with "expansion" somehow.
Stale TNN
Anonymous
>>120013249 >jews cucked by elves well I suppose it had to happen eventually.
Anonymous
Which nation for max fire?
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>>120015560 >cucked Its real love :3c
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>>120005168 >9 provinces >implying Motherfucker I have 20 provinces, though I could've been more efficient in my expanding.
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GIVE ME UNITS
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>>120021736 THE ONLY CORRECT ANSWER IS THE PUREST MAIDEN AND HER BIG DICKED HUSBANDO
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>>120023551 >lich casts fear Anonymous
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>>119956689 The aim with the wiki is to provide a centralized place for all information DOminions IV related. With Desura's future uncertain, and Admins dodging questions about what, if anything, is going to be backed up, there is no better time than now to flesh it out.
Ideally there'd be guides and breakdowns on every nation in the game, as well explanations on all the mechanics, with perhaps a discussion on scripting, thugging and other tactics.
>>119995383 FOr example, the Wiki has a pretty good page that discusses EA Arco in depth, as well as what you should be recruiting and what you may want to do pretender wise.
>>119993953 Squids are right, Leave the Undead plumbers to their toilets.
Anonymous
>>120023864 >Spirit Photography >fire ?
Anonymous
>>120024805 Look at her butt, o you humorless person.
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http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki Shameless shilling the Wiki. You know something others don't, and you should share it here.
Anonymous
>>120024875 it doesn't seem burned or particularly hot
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>>120022120 Fuck off undertale shitposters
Anonymous
>>120023090 >>120022135 >>120022000 WHY
FUCKING WHY
SKELETONS ARE JUST SKELETONS
THEY LOOK THE FUCKING SAME EVERYWHERE
I COULD JUST GOOGLE PICS OF SKELETONS AND YOU WOULDN'T EVEN NOTICE
Anonymous
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>>120027071 draw skeleton.
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>>120027071 This is how many longdeads there are. I want you to draw every single one of them.
Anonymous
Does the Air 9 bless' Air Shield only affect mundane projectiles, or does it also prevent 80% of all magic ones? I assume all ranged mundane attacks are included, such as boulders, darts, axes, etc?
Anonymous
How does the water bless' quickness work? Does it stack with anything?
Anonymous
>>120030365 it generally stacks with other quicknesseses, such as those from boots of quickness
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>>120026864 I've never played Undertale Anonymous
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>>120030365 The AP and defense bonus stacks, but you do not get more attacks.
>>120030687 is wrong, unless he's referring to only the AP and defense bonuses. Anonymous
>>120030132 airshield only stops mundane projectiles to the best of my knowledge. no idea on stacking or how to even test that.
Anonymous
>>120033354 Anything with a sprite can be blocked iirc
Anonymous
>>119985350 Send in a lightning immune heavy thug, it might take a few tries to chop through everything but it should get it done eventually
Anonymous
>>120033576 So does this include flaming arrows or other mundane weapons with magickal damage? WHat about flying shards? What about blessed ranged weapons, such as d9f9 la caelum (for example)?
Anonymous
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>>120034694 >by the Illwinter should fix that
also should explain that ur pretenders don't lose paths when being called back from the dead
Anonymous
>>120034694 Called back pretenders has decent odds of healing afflictions, I think the current wording makes it sound like healing afflictions is rare
Anonymous
>>120034549 Yes. Won't work against AoE stuff though
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>>120034437 Ah, thank you. Luckily I think I can do that with just construction 2 and the Monster in the Maze kitted out with a smasher and copper plate. Thanks based anon.
Anonymous
>>120033576 any non magical projectiles are blocked.
bladewind being a prime example of a non magical projectile that is still "magic"
Anonymous
>>120034694 >>120035179 >>120035371 FIxed, and added some more stuff. Does anyone know the chance to heal the afflictions? And horrormarks slowly disapear right?
>>120035705 So flaming arrows, a spell that makes arrows magical fire ones, would ignore air shield or no? What about bless LA Caelum Earthbounds with f9d9? Do the arrows miss because they are "mundane" or do they hit because they have some magical shit to them now?
>>120035540 This is good to know, thanks.
Anonymous
>>120036213 the mundane arrow "hits" (80% not dealing damage) and causes the secondary magical effect to pop dealing damage
Anonymous
>>120036416 This is fantastic to know, actually. Going straight to the wiki, Thank you!
Anonymous
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>>120037221 shroud causes wearer to be blessed outside battle also
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>>120035705 Iron Blizzard is blocked though
Anonymous
>A bless that effectively prevents the first five points of all damage that is dealt to any sacred units has many uses, but is best seen on MA Agartha's sacred statues, where the +5 to protection makes the statues with a high protection effectively unkillable.
Anonymous
>>120040363 Fair enough. Where do you seen a E9 bless shining through? MA Agartha was the one I could come up with, but that doesn't disclude other nations, nor suggest MA Agarthan statues are the best for it.
Anonymous
>>120040363 if I'm not mistaken, prot typically doesn't stack additively either
Anonymous
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>>120041079 It's fucking amazing on Ancestral Spirits and Supayas.
Anonymous
>>120041290 Earth 9? Are you sure?
>>120041145 I feel like it does, insomuch as the E9 bless adds +5 protection to all blessed sacred units?
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>>120041640 >Are you sure? Try it.
Anonymous
>>120041145 >>120041640 Armor and natural protection don't stack completely.
For statues in particular you should see the full +5 protection (as they don't have armor), but for most sacreds you'd see a smaller increase.
The formula is natural+armor-(armor*natural/40).
>>120041079 >Where do you seen a E9 bless shining through? I don't really see it being great anywhere. +5 natural protection just doesn't seem like a big deal to me. The minor is great, but you can take E6 and get 3/4 of the benefit for a fraction of the price.
It might be worthwhile with N9 as a super-defensive bless, but I'm not sure what nation would want that.
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>>120042146 n9 is powerful enough in its own that adding e9 will be barely noticeable in most cases
Anonymous
>>119941602 I'm fatigue-neutral. Do I really need reinvig?
>>119941693 Elves can't into blood tho
>>119941716 Well, fuck. Is spellcasting fatigue added after the fatigue reduction for being a boss at the element in question?
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>>120043765 >Is spellcasting fatigue added after the fatigue reduction for being a boss at the element in question? Yes.
Also after magic scales, those won't help either.
Anonymous
What are the fundamental types of troops?
Anonymous
>>120044352 What do you mean by types?
Anonymous
>>120044815 Categories that share a fundamental basic tactic. So far I've listed chaff, cavalry, and archers.
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>>120044815 Here are things that you can specifically target -
Flyers - Anything that flies
Archers - Anything with a range attack (including stuff like javelins)
Cavalry - Anything with the cavalry trait (these units are also affected by animal effects in some ways)
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>>120043765 Vanheim does have blood although the anon is incorrect in that leech will effect a golem. However, shatter and such will
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>>120044938 That's not really something that you can easily hash out, to be honest. For instance, Demon Knights are cavalry but they're often used as a front line with the idea that they're going to rout your enemy's melee with their overlapping fear auras and high protection.
'Chaff' also varies in terms of what it's used for. You can use them just as blockers for real units, but a blob of 100 of them with some basic leader can beat PD and be used to raid. Skelly-spam can be consider chaff creation, but it's kind of its own thing too. Chaff is usually not worth buffing since by it's nature it's cheap (preferably free) but when you're running armor of gold, antimagic, and fog warriors your 'chaff' can survive as though it were heavy infantry.
Anonymous
Astral levels increase research, I'm not imagining this right?
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>>120045469 All magic levels increase research.
Anonymous
>>120045469 any magic level increase Research by 2.
i don't know if astral gives more, i am pretty sure it does give 1 MR however.
Anonymous
Whoever is writing wiki articles, please stop, using commas, in random places, because it's really, annoying.
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>>120045718 >Whoever is writing wiki articles There's at least three people. Look at the record of who created whichever page(s) you're complaining about and tell us.
Anonymous
>>120045557 comparing an arco mystic with three paths with differing levels of Astral seems to show higher levels of research for those with more levels of Astral
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>>120045830 Each path should give +2 RP.
Boosters increase research when they're on a researching mage.
Anonymous
>>120045830 are you sure the difference isn't due to experience or magic levels in the location they are in?
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>>120045985 same location, must be experience
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>>120048269 Ermor, Sceleria, and Lemuria are pretty anime. Why are they dead then?
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>>120048489 Natural selection, only kawai nations survive and fake romans aren't kawai
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>>120048489 I like this image a lot.
Anonymous
>>120011170 >Clatspurs I was tempted to capture the one on the north, but then realized your cap is probably inside of the cave system and thought it's better to let you them.
i don't really need the caves if i have cute forests instead.
Are you going to capture the forest provinces on the east of the Clatspurs?
Anonymous
>>120045718 >he doesn't, like, Chistopher Walken Fuck, off.
Anonymous
StaleWarriors Helheim
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Hey Fomoria, are you here?
Stale TNN
>>120023487 >Wounded Shape: Grieving Dryad Anonymous
>>120055386 >Grieving dryad has death magic and seduction. Anonymous
if the enemy is sieging my fortress can my dryads, who were inside,seduce his commanders? how do i equip/script a dryad to fight sauromancers?
Anonymous
>>120055949 >Death magic I like to imagine that's how Asphodel begun
Anonymous
>Getting beaten in every game I'm in
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>>120056540 Someone needs to make a hero for Asphodel of the couple now as Carrion centaur and lady respectively.
Boars
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>>120056545 Get used to it.
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>>120056545 >In a game of arround a dozen players usually I should win much more than the average one in twelve times. Fartganos Ermor
Hey, T'ien Ch'i, you around?
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>>120056545 I just try not to lose all my games and see about winning after that.
Anonymous
>>120057779 Yes, I am. If you attack them this turn, I'll attack next turn.
Fartganos Ermor
>>120058568 The attack on the throne sort hurt my army a bit because of the damn indie mages and their damn fire elementals, I don't think I can attack quite yet, at least not with any sort of positive effect. How long does the guy have? Can he survive for a couple of turns while I bring in some reinforcements?
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I mean I could attack if it's absolutely vital.
Anonymous
>>120058716 He's been hanging on a thread for quite a while now. I can't attack this turn because my !fun! is one turn away from the frontline.
I'm not even sure if we can still save Bandar. Regardless, we must make the elves pay.
Fartganos Ermor
>>120059076 Fine, I'll hit this turn and hope for the best. Does the enemy have a bless? Any info you can share on them with me?
Anonymous
>>120059134 Just a major Earth bless, I think. Lots of Vanherses and Vans. Besides those, there are skinshifters, a horde of undead and whatever he added since our last kertuffle. He sent two thugs into my lands, only one yet lives.
Anonymous
>>120059339 Only thing that gives me pause are those Vanherses. Are they decked out in equipment yet?
Anonymous
>>120042146 E9 is good on EA agartha because they have good sacreds who have high enough protection that the +5 takes them up being very difficult to kill.
The difference between a protection 20 statue and a protection 25 statue is noticable.
Also the reduction for armor+natural protection is small when heavily weighted towards one or the other. So shard guards get +4, which gets them up to 20 which is very noticeable.
It might be the one place it's worth it, MA agartha rush is a lot tougher to stop with the E9 imho.
Anonymous
>>120059614 No equipment at all, just air shield and mist form
Anonymous
>>120059963 Then I might have a chance.
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>>120060014 If not, I have a definite tie breaker coming up next turn. Good luck!
Anonymous
how many EQ do i need to wreck EA ctis? i tried with 3 and it killed 10% of his army.
Anonymous
>>120060330 What troops is he using, and what buffs?
Anonymous
The sublime joy when your tga map file no longer throw us "province X and X+1 are one pixel apart".
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>>120061932 Congratulations, anon.
And please share when it's done done. Anonymous
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>>120060587 mostly falchioneers and city guards. i don't know what buffs he has, if any.
it's turn 40 so it's not certain he has battlefield wide protection buffs.
Anonymous
Reminder that lizards are literally the most pure late age nation that literally would never even touch a human, let alone crossbreed with them or have giant human harems.
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>>120065052 >he doesn't realize pale one blood is still pure, simply fading. Anonymous
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>>120041640 Acestral spirits also want some Undying, so they can survive taking any damage at all. But since they also need either D9 or F9. D9 is harder to resist in addition to fucking over things that survive the battle, so going into D is a good idea anyway.
Anonymous
>>120051146 Thanks.
>Are you going to capture the forest provinces on the east of the Clatspurs? I was going to, but it looks like you want them and I don't really need anything that's not caves, besides as a buffer zone. And there's plenty of caves to work with.
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>>120063602 Most of the time, Pangaea seems like it would be one of the best realms to live in, but then there's always shit like this asshole.
CastleDoctrine
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Monkeys you degenerate peices of shit take your turn
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I need another game to join. Someone advertise one.
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>>120072291 Give me a couple of hours, my map is mostly done then I'll host a game using it.
Anonymous
Can MA Ermor not summon anything with more death magic than the spectator they start with without having an awake pretender with death magic?
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>>120074653 If you aren't running an awake pretender, you can empower, rush Cons 4 to make a skull staff, or get lucky and get one of the D3 heroes.
LuxInvicta Bats
How's everyone enjoying their horrors?
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>>120075438 Please may I have some more?
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How do you play MA Ermor during their first year?
Anonymous
>>120078423 If you go bless build you wanna get arch bishops a lot. I usually imprison for tribkess and just empower my starting Spector to get the summoning ball rolling by getting a dusk elder soon as I can. Your knights and lictors are monstrous with the right bless so you can expand fast. The late game micro can get annoying though
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>>120078423 >>120078618 Also dusk elders have such path diversity that after getting skelespam you can really go wherever you want as you can get any mix of EDFSA on your elders and they're atlwast D2 so horde of skeletons is useful
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>>120078423 dont listen to
>>120078618 you need awake pretender
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>>120078618 That's extremely risky, tbh. You're already gimping your early game by having an imprisoned pretender, and archbishops are much slower to get your lictor count up than spectators with laurels.
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>>120078781 You do not need awake. Dormant is fine. Imprisoned is okay if you have a way to get D3. Awake is fine if you want it for something specific. Your expansion does not need help though.
Anonymous
Is this a good pretender for MA Ermor?Does regeneration even work on undead?
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>>120079909 Bless regen does.
But that is not a good pretender for Ermor, because you really, really want Luck 3. It'll be basically your only income source, and you do need to get castles, temples and labs up even if you aren't recruiting. Also the undead can't preach, so the domstrength is too low.
Drop A9 to A4 and sort those and you're good though.
Anonymous
>>120079909 >Air bless And regeneration works on undead (but not lifeless, which is a separate trait from being undead). True Regeneration you get from the bless works on everything, however.
Anonymous
>>120079909 That is fuckawful.
Use a better chassis.
Dom6+
3 blesses max
Air bless is shit. Absolute shit. Especially on things with pierce resistance.
Anonymous
>>120080602 >>120080179 >>120080162 Better or worse?
Please show me your best Ermor pretender designs as well.
Anonymous
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The ID for a Vampire Lord is 404, is there any layer of this game that doesn't have small jokes?
Anonymous
>>120082307 Take it dormant.
Take M3 or N9 (you should be able to afford one or the other of those)
Anonymous
>>120083185 >m3 kek someone wants to steamroll ermor with magic fuck off we give real advice here
DoD Fish
Vanheim you kiss and fondle Marverni this instant or I am calling your mother mister!
Anonymous
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>>120083402 Magic 3 is amazingly good for ermor you dunce.
Gems are useful
Actually being able to research is useful.
One point of mr is not useful when you have multiple spells that can raise MR (protection of the sepulchre plus antimagic)
Anonymous
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>>120083402 You do want M3 though. Ermor needs the gems more than any other nation and it helps their otherwise godawful research
Anonymous
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>>120082307 Better. The regen bless is very nice to have though. I'd probably go something like this, myself.
Immortal Chassis and high dom strength, capable of casting both Soul Drain and Phoenix Pyre, solid bless, can eventually get you rings/wish. Drain 2 definitely hurts, since your research is shit, but it makes your skeletons a bit less banishable.
If you drop the F4, you can go to Magic 1 instead, which helps with the research, doesn't lower MR, and unlocks a bunch of +gem events.The Phoenix Pyre+Soul Drain combo is great, and the extra couple points of attack do your sacreds no harm, but you may find the research/event improvement worth it.
Anonymous
Which is more useful and why: water or nature major bless?
Anonymous
VanillaDoD Boars
>>120083894 I told you not to trust an elf, mate. He's trying to end the game. He holds the Pantokrator throne and now just took mine. He has 4 points already and he has just taken the two thrones he needs to win. If you still want this game to go, I'd suggest putting all your effort into destroying him. And this goes for everyone sharing a border with the cunt.
StaleWarriors Helheim
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Yo Fomoria, are you here?
Anonymous
>>120086142 You told me you were fine with the fiddyfiddy deal!
Anonymous
>>120079909 I use this lich queen or a second dormant variation of it
posting it soon if there are lots of astral nations or I want a better lategame at the cost of my early game. Essentially I use the queen to research until ench 3 (enchantment 6 is the big goal) then send her out to sitesearch. With these paths she can cast most every battlefield spell and has cloud trapeze to move around.
Examples include
Bonegrinding (with 2 gems)/Rain of Stones/Relief/Darkness/Howl/Rigor Mortis/Grip of Winter/Foul Vapors/Curse of Stones/Quagmire
I can't think of any more off the top of my head but as you can see the diversity is there.
Anonymous
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>>120086765 The dormant variant with astral. You may want this one if you are concerned about magic duels or want even more diversity via rings/communions. Be warned that not having an awake god to spread your dominion as Ermor really hurts the number of troops you get. The lower dominion does help with keeping income though and not having your god until year 2 means you will
1. Have less research
2. probably be relying entirely on spectators for the first year.
Though #2 isn't too much of a detriment you can use pairs of spectators later as stealthy horde of skeleton thug raiders.
VanillaDoD Boars
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>>120086656 Serves me right, I trusted an elf.
But seriously if you want to continue playing this game still, then remove elf.
VanillaDoD Caelum
>all of these disgusting non-winged races on bird clay
VanillaDoD Boars
>>120088714 I don't even know how Ermor managed to get there. Also, need money or gems? Willing to fund you if you attack elf.
Anonymous
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>tfw you hit a dead end expanding and have to backtrack 4 provinces to get to the nearest indie province
VanillaDoD Caelum
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>>120089001 Neither would help very much, seeing as I've got barely any research and no resources.
Anonymous
This is my attempt at making a rainbow with a B9 bless. Lack of immortality means that it's not nearly as good of a combat caster as the lich queens that anon posted earlier, but it still does the site searching thing and works fine as a stay at home mage.
Anonymous
What scales does Niefelheim want?
Anonymous
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>>120089267 order + growth so you have lots of gold to afford your sacred giants.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120089249 2 paths will find over 90% of sites, and if I'm not mistaken (correct me if I'm wrong) 4 is as good as 2, the next being 5.
Use cheap astral or Blood magi as communion slaves to be able to cast any battlefield spell, if you don't have native access then Lizard Shaman indies are common.
Unless of course you are going for the rainbow bless as well.
Anonymous
Why does no one ever suggest a B9N9 MA Agartha? Your god can bloodhunt enough for you to empower an oracle for B stone netting you the much needed B6.
Anonymous
So for a +1 preferred temp scale going 3 makes a negligible difference correct?
Anonymous
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>>120093257 >4 is as good as 2, the next being 5 I'm correcting you because that's completely retarded.
First of all, 4 is better than 2. Not by much, sure, but there are level 3 and 4 sites which a level 2 mage can't find. Second, there are no level 5 sites.
Third, you might still want to go with 4 for a minor bless and/or ritual casting.
Anonymous
>>120093852 Yes.
Temp scales don't really have a major impact unless you're cold-blooded, and since temperature swings back and forth anyway between summer and winter, going with 3 isn't even a bad thing since it's not going to get worse anyway.
Anonymous
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>>120094548 They should make it so temp scales can go down to 5 or 6 with the lowest being so fucking cold/hot everything dies in it.
SunPlain Admin
Is anyone able to help me set a player AI?
Anonymous
>>120093461 Because you have to tank your scales to do it
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120096415 You could do something along the lines of turmoil/luck and rely heavily on summons rather than recruited troops. It will make it harder to amass mages, though, and will also make EBDW less easily accessible.
Anonymous
>>120097135 You still have to use your mages. Regardless of how powerful N9B9 statues are, you still have to have an early game
Anonymous
>>120097135 Everything Agartha has is expensive
Anonymous
>>120097297 >>120097591 Okay, so here's a build that still manages decent income.
Anonymous
>>120098398 How are you going to expand with that?
Anonymous
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And here's its turmoil/luck variant that ensures your poverty.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120098398 >bloodhunting in your cap You're gonna have a bad time.
Otherwise pretty good. Consider going down to Growth 2 to get Order 3, Agartha needs it's early-game income badly.
SunPlain Admin
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Fukushima is now AI.
Anonymous
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>>120098569 I'm just theorycrafting here (not even the guy that suggested the original build) but I'd go with trog slaves
Anonymous
>>120098620 Well, first off, it risks getting Magic Dueled to death by even an Astral 2 mage.
Also what the fuck are you doing with those scales
Anonymous
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>>120098569 You need only 4-6 shard guards to expand, and you can make alt expansion groups of troglodytes while those are being built, since the shard guards will be capped by resources and the troglodytes will be limited by gold.
CastleDoctrine Agartha
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Pelagia, we're cool, right?
Anonymous
>>120098620 >S1 You gon' die to Magic Duel if that thing ever sees combat.
>O1S2C3G2M1M0 This hurts me.
Getting an N9E9 bless with Nifelheim is hard. You may have to give up on it. They definitely benefit a great deal from the N9 bless, but once you have that you do want to go for scales.
Anonymous
>>120099552 From my tests, E9 greatly enhances the efficiency of fur-clad sacred giants
>>120099241 Better?
Anonymous
>>120098620 Niefelheim doesn't really need a E9 bless. If you really want to go have two majors for some reason, go into blood, water, or even death. Shit, even Astral's arguably better for them, and it's handy to have a big astral caster if you can get good gem income.
Anonymous
>>120099741 Eh, it's better. Those resources and no growth are gonna hurt, though.
Anonymous
>>120099741 That is true.
However, those giants are cap only, and while Skratti with N9E9 shrouds are recruit anywhere and will be fucking immortal, you are really, really hurting your scales to get it.
Stalewarriors
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Turn is almost there~
Anonymous
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>>120101430 The only other option I have is dropping 1 scale for 1 dom or 2 scales for 2 dom
I have literally 1 point too little to get 3 dom in return for 2 scales
Anonymous
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>tfw no Hoburg nation
Anonymous
>>120101216 That's terrible. If you MUST have E9N9 do pic related, but it's not worth it. At most do E4N9, and probably around S4-5 so you can use it in fights where you have astral Gygjor.
Anonymous
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>>120102396 You can expand just fine with sloth2, maybe you'll be in trouble if the start is total shit with no neighbours or just swamps and wastes. Dom7 because Niefels can't fight for shit in hot dominion so you want your cold everywhere.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
Other than Therodos, what's the least sucky UW nation in EA?
Anonymous
>>120107737 >UW >not sucky Pick one
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120107737 r'lyeh is always the right answer
Anonymous
>>120107737 Probably Oceania, but they all suck.
Anonymous
>>120107932 >>120107967 >>120107998 epic, three different opinions for a meme answer. i love you domg
Anonymous
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>>120108128 4 answers. The other 3 point to
>>120107875 being right.
Anonymous
>>120107998 In what way is EA Oceania strong (for an underwater nation)?
Anonymous
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>>120109786 Thugable commanders for a start.
Anonymous
I'll give you a quick rundown of EA Water -
Anonymous
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>>120110806 Correction - their cool mindblasting + freespawning priests are immobile. Their slave priests are amphibious.
Anonymous
>>120110806 >mainstay mages need Amulets of Fish Their mainstay mages are slave mages.
R'lyeh can go on land with a decent mage ball, they just lack troops that can hold the line while their mages shoot.
Anonymous
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>>120111349 Sorry, I should have said their elite mages. Mind lords are actually really great if you can get them places.
Anonymous
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>>120106518 I WILL ONCE THE FUCKING MAP STOPS BEING AN ASSWIPE AND CRASHING FOR REASONS LIKE "YOU CAPITALISED THAT L SO I DON'T KNOW WHAT LAND MEANS"
Anonymous
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I can't stop playing every nation as a tribless nation, I think I have a problem.
Anonymous
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>>120045718 Sorry, was pretty drunk on some of those articles.
>>120055970 Yes, back to the fortress with the commander. And handful of acorns, bottles of living water, and banishment for the inevitable hordes of undead.
>>120085951 It depends. On so many fucking things.
Anonymous
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>>120085951 Water is good for high defense units and units that are already good offensively since its attack bonus provides multiplicative scaling.
Nature is good for sacred communions and units with naturally very high HP since regen is a percentage of HP. It is situationally useful to give more HP to units with very low base HP, but that is, as stated, situational.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120119869 I made a map, and will host a game with it as soon as Llamaserver finishes eating the file.
Anonymous
>>120120157 >Implying I wan't to play in this ugly map Its not even memey enough to warrant it looking this bad.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120120157 Jesus. It has all of the terrain clustering problems of the pretty maps without being pretty. It also has a bunch of water provinces in narrow strips, which are perfect for sailing nations and absolute trash for UW
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120120157 Uh. Uh. K-keep contributing Anon! Thanks for working hard on making content for the rest of us.
Anonymous
>>120120318 >>120120326 Okay, that was the half-finished version, though the style changes little.
>>120120417 Fuck my life.
>>120120638 No UW nations, and the river is crossable at points without sailing.
>>120120767 City with walls, what?
>>120120780 Thanks....
Each outer province of the map connects to the one on the opposite side, no edges.
Anonymous
Can someone explain blesses?
Anonymous
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>>120121025 You're in luck, someone's actually spent the last couple days working on just that.
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Bless Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120121013 Are the trees and mountains your own, or did you just download some brushes? If you made them yourself, they're pretty decent, but you don't know how to use them.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120121467 Brushes, I can't draw at all.
>>120121495 I'm sorry, I like things which can't physically exist.
Anonymous
>>120120638 >It also has a bunch of water provinces in narrow strips, which are perfect for sailing nations and absolute trash for UW Good. Fuck UW nations.
>>120121013 This version looks nicer, but the provinces look too clustered still. Especially that wasteland over on the east and the large blocks of plains.
>>120121495 >Each outer province of the map connects to the one on the opposite side, no edges. Anonymous
>>120121013 Way prettier tbh. It has serious terrain clustering issues which make it unsuited to MP, but it at least looks nice now.
TheNoobening Therodos
>"Oh neat turn 18 is in already, might as well play it" >Nothing really going on in messages >Look at a location where my troops are and there seems to be a huge black blob >"Oh, I wonder what th-" >XIBALBA >BATS BATS BATS BATS >380 BATS
Anonymous
>>120121806 It is fairly clustered, yeah, though anywhere on the map is only a couple of moves from any terrain type due to the edge connections.
Anonymous
>>120123094 Let me rephrase that for him - having six connected farms is a balance concern because that gives the person that can control that area a shitload of dosh.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120123063 If you want to get back on land, attack Ulm, he's trying to dick Lanka Anonymous
>>120123256 Oh, right, yeah, that side of it...
Would I be being too hopefull to assume everyone would head towards those areas from the start, balancing it out?
Anonymous
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>>120123256 Also having a large number of connected forests gives a significant advantage to nations like Asphodel, Xibalba, and Pangaea that get recruitment from forests. Xibalba gets its best case expansion scenario guaranteed, more or less.
TheNoobening Therodos
>>120123390 I'm kind of playing it safe and observing for now. This is my first MP game, so I'm just
testing the waters Anonymous
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>>120123868 Just remember ya can't learn anything by doing nothing.
Anonymous
>>120123425 Yes, that is a bit hopeful.
Someone starting next to one of those areas would have a massive advantage. Even if everybody is equidistant, that just leaves it up to whoever has the fastest expansion.
Anonymous
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>>120123868 number one mistake nubs make is not being aggressive. Especially since your a pop kill nation
Anonymous
Anonymous
QUICK HOW DO YOU PLAY EA YOMI
Anonymous
>>120127023 Care to join
>>120127457 and others testing it?
Given the amount of effort to make even such a... controversial map I'll be waiting a while before I try again anyway.
Anonymous
>>120128129 create a pretender who has a good chunk of air, nature, water, add a few more paths for essential boosters.
in the beginning make 20-30 groups of fire throwing oni (the 1 resource, 25 gold guys) for expansion. Recruit snake laadies but not too many, use human generals to lead your troops.
get your ass to enchant 3 or 5 for skellie spam. 5 if you want tons of skeletons and 3 if you want skeletons to mainly suppliment.
get to evocation 3 and construction 3 so your snake ladies can start throwing fireballs for you. Get alternation going too for eagle eyes and working on buffs for your SCs.
you should be using your pretender to sight search after reaching the importantly early research goals and by this point you should spamming Oni generals who IMO are your best combat mage with a few more snake ladies acting as support/fireball throwers
start working on construction 4 when you can and get ready to gear out your Dai Onis so you can start throwing SCs around.
Part 2 inc
Anonymous
Does EA Abyssia want a bless?
TheNoobening Old Therodos
>>120123868 I compiled the advice I gave you and other stuff and with a bit of help from others correcting my abominable typos, it's now a wiki page, in case you want it
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki Anonymous
>>120128651 part 2
from there you play based on playstyle:
wanna get away from oni's and their terrible gold sink and not relying on turmoil 3 to do damage? work on setting up undead archer/corpse construct spam and other elemental summons, otherwise keeping up the oni/SC grand slam and work towards summoning a dai Tengu with your Pretender or empowered human sorc so you can break into air and other shit. Using your pretender to summon Swamp spirits will also break you into water.
From there you have access to the elemental royalties and you can develop your strats from there
also Fuck the haters I always go turmoil 3 and Luck 3 cause I"m insane in the membrane
Anonymous
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>>120128651 conjuration* 3 not construction 3, whoops!
TheNoobening Therodos
>>120128780 The start you gave me is pretty rad, especially since I've started figuring out the relevance of what you've done with your scales and the like.
Anonymous
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>>120128748 people reckon their double morningstar sacred is pretty good even without one, plus it's cap only
but it's pretty good with one too
also what kind of wiseguy that joins with the fire loving + 3 heat after I join with the ice loving +3 gold
TheNoobening Old Therodos
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>>120129095 I'm glad you're managing well, my strategy is kinda weird.
Anonymous
>>120128129 one other thing too:
Yomi sometimes has a hard time expanding early on, especially if you get shitty luck with indies. If you mind sacrificing your late game efficiency for early game expansion you can go with a SC Awake to help with that. Your national SC god and the earth serpent are classic choices but again you sacrifice easy access into the other magical paths that IMO are vital to your survival for the rest of the game
Stalewarriors
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I have 28 provinces at the moment, is that a lot?
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
in a recent game I found the sight that lets me recruit stalkers (the ethereal assassins).
Anonymous
>>120131654 Bottles of living water and skull talismans.
The best way to win a duel is to bring friends.
Anonymous
>>120131715 thank god I found some jade sorceresses early. time to crank those bottles out. They double stack right?
Anonymous
>>120131826 Yes. They're one of the few items that are.
Anonymous
>>120128497 I've already got enough games, especially if I stick around into lategame for them all.
>>120128651 >>120128890 >no mention of Ench4+Conj3 for Flaming Arrows Anonymous
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>>120131875 thanks. This game's been insane because it's been set to MF 50% in the MA and I've been founding shit ton of sights I normally don't see so it's been a fun time to experiment
>>120132009 oh yeah I forgot about easy flame arrows. Also you should never waste cash on the 50 gold 10 resource onis and you should also not keep huge stacks of oni sitting around doing nothing. Their 1 resource cost makes them great emergency response forces instead.
longdead archers+flame arrows are a very potent killing force
Anonymous
>>120131715 What research do I need done to make Bottles of Living Water?
Anonymous
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>>120132009 Thanks for giving good advice all the same.
Anonymous
Tornvale Spoilers
Sceleria, any chance you could post and updated research graph?
Anonymous
Anonymous
TIL Abysian soldiers are 16 years old. Slayers are 16 too.
Anonymous
Can someone that's actually played Abysia in multiplayer and preferably won a game if anyone has update their wiki section? I've never played as them in MP but there's a lot about it that's just transparently wrong.
Anonymous
Does anyone know if ea Caelum with t3l3 and an awake azi is any good?
Anonymous
>>120059625 1.) Ea agartha doesnt get statues
2.) + 5 prot is not nearly as helpful as regen. As somebody who has played ma agartha, the statues are rarely killed due to lack of protection.
Anonymous
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>>120142236 1)meant to say MA, that was a typo
2)agree, I was arguing for a dual bless, not E over N.
Anonymous
>>120141240 >but there's a lot about it that's just transparently wrong. You can fix those parts yourself, surely?
You don't need to have played EA Abysia to correct stuff like
>Flails deal damage much more quickly but have lower defense and fatigue out twice as quickly. >>120142017 I've found EA Caelum's expansion to be pretty great already, so I'm not sure why you'd want an awake pretender.
Anonymous
>>120144891 The extra provinces from an awake expander would help to make up for the income loss from T3 was the assumption I was working on.
Anonymous
how many squares long is the battlefield/each deployment
Anonymous
>>120147924 I only know it expands if the battle is large enough. Number of occupied square wise that is.
Anonymous
>>120147924 https://www.dropbox.com/s/olhsoek4kypm6wt/Battlefield.jpg Note that large lines of units stretch your deployment and very large numbers of units stretch the battlefield edges when they hit the end as
>>120148228 stated
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>>120148260 Oh, and units that appear to go off the edge in the boxes (like when you put a large block on a corner) actually do go off the edge of your deployment zone, so it's possible to spill out so that there's fewer spaces between the front of your army and the enemy deployment zone. Usually when this is beneficial for you your opponent won't be deploying at the very front anyways, but it's worth noting.
Another random space thing to note - Shortbows deployed three spaces from the front of your line will be able to hit the middle of the enemy formation.
Anonymous
>>120145251 Maybe. It probably depends how many provinces per player there are. In a cramped map awake pretenders work a lot better.
You'd need around 30% more provinces for that, and I'd worry about getting viewed as a large threat. Caelum is quite a strong lategame power, so you'd be at a high risk of getting grouped up on with that much land.
Stalewarriors
That's some nice expansion you have there Arco.
LuxInvicta Bats
So how much impact has Astral Corruption actually had? I don't actually get reports for the horror attacks. I expected to see them the way you do for the Send Horror spells, but no such luck. I have to rely on people admitting to what the horrors ate.
Anonymous
>>120148687 Thanks. Clear concise to the point.
Azi with t3l3 would potentially work but idk if I could get evo5 up fast enough with the reduced income.
Anonymous
>>120150039 It's not doing much of anything really
Anonymous
>>120150978 That's disheartening. I poured way too many blood slaves into it in the hopes of doom horrors on everyone's summoners and smiths.
Anonymous
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>>120151112 Horrors won't really do much against strong mages in the end game outside of doom horrors
Anonymous
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>>120150468 You can fight off an early rush with Evo4, and you shouldn't have too much trouble getting to Evo5/Conj3 for proper thunderstriking.
The problem comes if you have to fight 3 nations, which are all using different strategies, attacking from different directions, and have an overall economy that's 2x larger than you.
Even if they're scrubs that kind of attack is difficult to deal with.
Arco
>>120149367 Take sloth, they said
Anonymous
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How do the genitals of 'sea shape' units work? Do they transform too?
Stalewarrior
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>>120152309 Oh that's right, your Elephants actually wear pants don't they.
That's gotta be rough.
Anonymous
mapmakingishard Machaka
Anonymous
>>120154887 Prepare your butthole for colonization.
Anonymous
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Is it just me or is Oceania literally identical in MA and EA?
mapmakingishard Machaka
>>120154958 I shall pursue the sun and the moon.
though I my spears may only find ur anus
mapmakingishard Machaka
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>>120155234 *I fear my spears may only find ur anus
Anonymous
Aside from Magic, what scales do you want for Jotunheim? Gamhirding don't look good enough for a bless, so I was looking at either an awake expander to grab those juicy forests more quickly or a gold + magic scales build.
Anonymous
>>120155427 Rough draft. Not sure how good the Ormr even is.
Anonymous
>>120155561 err, that should be cold 3 not cold 1. The scales and so on are the same I just used the wrong mouse button
Anonymous
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>>120155628 With the same scales I can also do an E5 earth snake or a Dom5 E6 earth snake
Anonymous
>Hi. On trying to host Nobbynobland just now, Dominions crashed. This is not a LlamaServer issue, but rather Dominions itself crashed with a "Nagot gick fel" error. >These errors are normally caused by a (generally inexplicable) problem with one of the players' 2h files. Therefore the LlamaServer moved all your 2h files away before hosting again. This is why you will receive a new turn file in which you've staled. >There are two options from here. Either you can treat the stale turn as a random event and carry on with the game, or you can roll back the turn and try to host again. If you try the latter your game admin will have to do the rollback via the admin options on the LlamaServer website, and you will all have to do your turns again. Note that in this case it is _really important_ that you actually do redo your turn, rather than just sending in the same one again (which people sometimes seem to do because they don't believe me). If you just send in the same file, hosting will simply fail again. >I hope you manage to get the game back on course, whichever option you go for.
Anonymous
Do demons get diseased like regular units? Or are they like Undead in that they do get diseased but don't have any negative effects from it?
Anonymous
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>>120138753 Abysians hit old age at 30
Anonymous
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Deader than a 60 year old abysian
Anonymous
Why would I want my queen of air to be a SC instead of casting Shimmering Fields a bunch of times? Why would I want my queen of water to be a SC instead of casting Niefel Flames? Why would I want my King of Fire to be a SC instead of casting Flame Storm?
Anonymous
>>120101216 Why the hell do you need the water bless? Jarls can cast Quicken Self.
Anonymous
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>>120161785 I assume for the giants, but you're right that it's suboptimal. I'm a fan of N9E4 or flat N9 myself
Anonymous
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>>120161561 It depends. In general, you don't want to use the elemental royalty for SCing, since they don't have full slots (no feet slot is not the end of the world, but still) and with only one high-level path they're far better off as mage support.
TheNoobening Anon
Bats are fucking huge, we actually need to deal with them gais. My scouts have been checking them out, they've basically got the whole right side of the map to themselves, and Vanheim seems more intersted in spreading south and west than dealing with the FUCK OFF HUGE bat problem.
Anonymous
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>>120162386 Well I'm in the NW corner, basically the Norway of this map, so gl.
Anonymous
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>>120161561 SCs don't need infantry support or mage assistance, so they're much more mobile than armies.
If you already have a perfectly good army (you should), fielding an SC is a lot cheaper than making a whole new army, and usually a lot more effective than making your existing army slightly more powerful.
SCs will ignore RoS or Earthquake, so they can take provinces to let your army advance carefully.
You should have plenty of non-unique mages and/or summons to cast that stuff. SC chassis are usually much harder to come by than chassis which can cast high-level elemental evocations.
Chalice of Salt Therodos
Thanks for fighting to the end Xibalba, I hope it was fun for you as well.
Anonymous
What should MA ermor research at the start of the game?
Stalewarriors
do you have any cool stalewarrior memes, guys?
Anonymous
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>>120163705 Construction or Enchantment
Stale TNN
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>>120163707 No real memes so far, I only know about one other person and the Great Bat war.
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120163707 Look up the Greyhawk map, find gems such as the Empire of Luz.
Stalewarriors
>>120163986 as a nation with non native air magic, i found a magic site with 2 wind gems per turn and A2 illusionists without even site searching.
t-thanks unbalanced map
Anonymous
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>>120164125 It's not really unbalanced if everyone gets stuff like that.
Also I like the indie cities. Adds a bit of flavor and extra challenge to expansion.
Anonymous
>>120164125 what map is it?
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120164125 Weren't you complaining of hidden air mage indies? Maybe there's a connection.
>>120164386 Oeridia
Anonymous
>>120164585 >Oeridia huh, is there a Toril map? or an Athas one?
Stalewarriors
>>120164585 yeah... but ironically it's not in the same province i found the wind mages
m-maybe dominions-karma?
by the way, are you admin-kun playing the game too?
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120164732 Greyhawk.
>>120165127 Given most the provinces are with set indies it's by design not karma. And yes, I'm
____Marverni_____ Anonymous
>>120165329 I know what fucking Oerida is you degenerate, I'm asking if someone has made a Tyr region map or a Toril/Faerun map
Stalewarriors Admin
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>>120166408 I assumed you were asking about the map at hand.
And no, I have no clue.
Stalewarriors Xibalba
Stale Pan, are you there? I wont take this turn the province you told me, I will wait a turn for it since I don't have that much commanders close.
NoStalersAllowed
What are we going to do about Ermor? I'm sending a scout south to see how much he has but from what I hear he's got more than his fair share of provinces under lock and key. How are we dealing with this one?
Stale Warriors Lanka
>>120166994 Me and Pan have agreed on borders to the south.
Stalewarriors Xibalba
>>120167232 cool
that reminds me of something. Abysia, are you there?
Anonymous
I'm a newfag which visited the general a few months ago, so you might not remember me.
Anonymous
Stalewarriors Xibalba
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>>120168253 there are a lot of games running right now, but it's not that you require a lot of focus on them.
also
>>120168376 the inspector is pretty good, use it
Anonymous
>>120168376 Thanks fam
Took a while to load on my toaster
Anonymous
A question:
Anonymous
>>120168990 The Pankoman is the winner of the previous game of Dominions
Anonymous
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>>120168990 The one who grabbed all the thrones and ascended to true godhood. There can only be one pantokrator at a time but there have been multiple pantokrators over the ages since the previous ones all go away after a while.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120168990 The Pantokrator is the god in the sense that we think of god. He quite literally makes the sun rise and set, and everything that he wills to happen does within the little pocket universe of the game that he won.
Anonymous
>>120168990 >Who the fuck is the Pantokrator? Guy who rules over everything.
Pretty much a proper omnipotent god, rather than just a pretender.
>Are there multiple? At least 2. The winner of the game becomes pantokrator, and it's mentioned that the war of ascension only occurs because the previous pantokrator got bored and left.
Anonymous
>>120166994 Lanka is cool
I just met both Vanheim and Fomoria and Vanheim seems cool so far
Agartha seems content with not having an all out war because nearly all my provinces connect to nearly all of his
I'll have a border with China soon but I haven't talked to them yet
And then there's you and you seem okayish
Anonymous
>>120169165 >got bored and left. The main website said that the last Pantokrator disappeared, without stating the cause.
The description of The Titan of War and Wisdom(Which cheaply ripped off Athena) implies there was a Zeus-like Pantokrator at some point. Are there any other Pantokrators we can deduce from hints in the lore?
Anonymous
>>120169213 >Not instantly ganging up on Lanka before you have to kill six billion demons I'm not even in your game and I know that's a bad idea.
Anonymous
>>120169317 No killing!
Only love, purity and MONOGAMOUS LOVING PURE RELATIONSHIPS BETWEEN QT DRYADS AND BIG DICKED CENTAUR MEN
Anonymous
>>120169476 >MONOGAMOUS LOVING PURE RELATIONSHIPS That's disgusting. Censor that lewd smut. I bet you even imagine them holding hands, you pervert.
Anonymous
>>120169293 >The main website said that the last Pantokrator disappeared, without stating the cause. I don't have a picture of the game-win text when you ascend to show you, but I remember it saying you end up leaving the thrones in search of something interesting.
Assuming it's a cycle which keeps repeating, the previous pantokrator probably left for the same reason.
Anonymous
>>120169293 During the Rebellion of the Lesser Gods, one Pantokrator was killed by the Great Antagonist, who was banished by said Pantokrator's son.
Anonymous
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>>120169213 cool, it seems like you are expanding fast too
i'm bordering with berytos, agartha, abysia and you (and fomoria soon thanks to a gateway)
i wish i had more scouts damn this map is so fucking enormous
Anonymous
>>120169640 Yeah, the ending text heavily replies that it's a repeating cycle with references to the chains of those that you imprisoned loosening and powerful entities eyeing the vacant thrones.
Anonymous
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>>120169647 >PC is shit >Hard drives are full >I'll never be able to enjoy the top-tier lore of the game to the fullest Why even live.
Anonymous
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>>120168794 It takes a while to load even on non-toasters.
Anonymous
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>>120169545 They hold
paws Anonymous
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Another quest-chin:
NoStalers Sceleria
>>120167201 Are you sure you're not confusing me and Ermor as one empire?
Anonymous
If Ethereal units can walk through walls, why do they still need to break the gate of a fort before attacking it?
Anonymous
Is Bogarus just Russian or does it contain figments of mythology from other slavic nations?
Anonymous
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>>120170712 >Boga-rus Nevermind I'm retarded
TornVale Pythium
My, my Oceania and Pelegia you sure have gotten all quiet now haven't you?
Anonymous
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>>120171312 IT'S PELAGIA, NOT PELEGIA
NIEFELHEIM, NOT NEIFELHEIM OR NIEFELHIEM
IT'S ABYSIA, NOT ABYSSIA
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous
>>120171312 >gets to eat two AI neighbours for free >brags about beating underwater shitters You might as well go play singleplayer.
Anonymous
>>120171598 Was pythium the only one able to grab those neighbours or did no one else go for them?
Anonymous
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>>120171660 Oceania got a few provinces of Eriu, but other than that it all went to Pythium. Everyone else either couldn't reach them or was at war with someone else at the time.
NoStalersAllowed Ermor
>>120167201 >>120170354 I think he is getting confused because I am 9 provinces big at turn 9.
Or he is trying something funny against me.
Anyway friendly reminder that Ermor cares about his neighbours and loves you all :3
We are just cute skeletons doing cute skeletons things, we even let Vanarus get that province that he wanted for almost free.
I still don't understand all this Ermor hate, also conquering me will suck because no gold and no sites. (And I swear to god that if someone tries to do something funny I will something something consequences)
Anonymous
>>120171827 Vanarus has been asking for an anti-Ermor alliance literally since turn 1.
Dunno what's up with that guy.
Ganos China
The China-Skeleton-Monkey alliance has managed to drive the dirty trickster elves back from the monkey capital
NoStalersAllowed Ermor
>>120171932 Yeah i know, that's what i get for being friendly with him. I let him took a province in exchange for gold, i hope he is not trying to fuck with me because trades are binding.
BTW how do you punish someone that doesn't keep his words on trades?
Anyway, i hope nobody fell for that guy tricks, because he was also doing diplomacy with me... Something smells fishy here, and i think it's that backstabbing cunt.
Anonymous
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>>120156963 The game is trying to drag it outt instead of letting me claim the final throne already
NoStalersAllowed Ermor
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Game: NoStalersAllowed
Anonymous
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Agartha 2h file received
EASports Burritos
I started my war with Lanka by taking 10 provinces in one turn. I outdid myself just now by starting my war with Pangaea by taking 12 provinces in one turn.
Anonymous
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>>120175540 Post them, what did you use?
EASports Burritos
Reposting since I deleted by mistake -
Anonymous
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Game: VanillaDoD
Anonymous
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and regular phase attacks. We had a pretty large border, made larger by the fact that I had flying demon stacks, sailing stacks, and an amphibious stack to cross the unfrozen river.
Anonymous
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>>120175847 well done, but mid-late into the game the income shift of 5 provinces for a couple of turns isn't going to win a war. the main advantage is that you'll be able to predict his movements, give him less provinvces to escape from seductiona attempts and slow down his map movement better.
15 PD should detect any stealthy army trying to cross them too
Anonymous
Oh wow, I just noticed that the universe itself approved of my holy crusade against the furry folk. That's auspicious.
NoStalers Sceleria
>>120171827 My Snek and his retinue are going back east, FYI, I'd prefer not to bump.
>>120172570 Trades with items, gems and money are held to be absolute, breaking them should warrant Admin intervention, whether this be "give the stuff or I'll sub someone as you for one turn to force you to" to "you AI now".
Trades which are about provinces, military assistance and so such are purely in game matters. Not that you can't throw a hissy fit in thread and try to get everyone to cut ties with them.
Anonymous
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>>120176742 >He doesn't like touching tails What are you, a normie? Get down with the clown and yiff a bitch.
NoStalersAllowed Ermor
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>>120176896 Add me on Steam
Chalice of Salty Boars
>>120163275 This has gone alright for me since anyone who attacked me got attacked by Therodos. So uh when it's just us and we're finally at war Therodos could you do me a solid and attack yourself? That's grand, thanks.
Anonymous
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>>120164732 >an Athas one? >90% wasteland >no matter how you represent the Sea of Dust, you're representing it wrong It would be even stupider than Oeridia.
Also I don't think we know enough about Toril's outlying regions, it might be better as just a Faerûn map.
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
>>120180697 You're just too fluffy not to help.
Also both times you managed to get attacked by them a couple of turns before I was going to invade anyway.
Anonymous
>>120168121 >tfw Xibalba is politely diplomancing everyone so there's no way to tell which nation is going to end up with thousands of bats suddenly appearing in their provinces Anonymous
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Ah, Dominions, the only game in which I can teleport my jellyfish god onto land wearing a land water breathing fish talisman and then make her rain frost down upon the Roman land dwellers.
Anonymous
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>>120169724 Also, the beginning text directly refers to it as a cycle.
Anonymous
>>120155561 Go with an N9 bless, or even N9E4. It's not much for the Garmrs (since past expansion they're not useful), but for your Skratti: with an easily craftable shroud, they can be good thugs and awesome communion slaves for the cap-only mages.
As for scales, O and G are good, because giants are expensive and they both help bloodhunting. A touch of production is nice, since you can easily recruit the heavy armor giants (your specialty is extreme resilience). Magic can be very good, since you'll want to pump out a stream of crappy hags from every forest.
Probably the best chassis for this is an Irminsul (Dom7 N9, 9 scales, or Dom 6 N9E4, 6 scales).
Anonymous
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>>120185429 Why do you need an N bless on a unit that already has regeneration? If you cast Personal Regeneration with a Gygja master, you can already use werewolf slaves for 11 masters (assuming they're not casting a spell that deals more than 10 distributed fatigue damage per round).
Similarly, adding an additional 10% regen doesn't change the engagement profile for your werewolf thugs. Things that it can fight will either deal chip damage, which it regenerates with or without the N bless, or kill it, which makes the additional regen irrelevant.
In both cases you're taking a huge opportunity cost by going with an immobile pretender with high magic in a path that you already have access to instead of an awake expander, and all you get out of it is the opportunity to spend 5 pearls to let a skratti do stuff that the skratti can do anyways.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120182268 A reminder that letting bats live past year 3 on a map this big is equal to surrendering.
Anonymous
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>>120182268 Well probably nobody at this point, he's too busy doing it to all the indies.
ALL the indies, his expansion is huge.
Anonymous
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>>120188746 This is true, but watch as everyone ignores it until it's too late.
VanillaDoD Boars
Must hurt losing all those thugs, huh, Elfshit?
VanillaDoD Fish
B-be nice or I'll discipline the both of you!!
Anonymous
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>>120190261 Do it faggot beat their asses raw
VanillaDoD Boars
>>120189862 Oh and I got your little shitty imp prophet. Can't get that quick underhanded victory now, can you? There goes that plan.
>>120190261 Hey, the backstabbing cunt attacked me. I'm merely retaliating.
VanillaDoD Fish
>>120190413 This is not the happy family I wanted us to be!!
Anonymous
>>120181978 I had hoped C'tis would help me when he realized you had the thrones to win.
Vanilla Green Inferno
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>>120190794 I'll be part of your happy family. After I'm done raping and eating the Romans in my backyard.
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
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>>120191064 The Harvesters of Sorrows he's sent haven't done lots, and on the border between me and him there's two provinces which keep having high level horrors spawning in them.
VanillaDoD Fish
I guess it's time then
Stale TNN
Anonymous
How come in the mod inspector, some stats are highlighted?
Anonymous
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>>120194294 Hover over them to see a break down of what affects it, such as with defense the penalty due to the weapon and armour.
TheNoobening Lanka
If anyone is bordering Ulm and wants to have a slice of the action, he's lost quite a lot of troops trying to rush me and should be easy pickings.
TheNoobening Lanka
Anonymous
What is the cutest (mod) nation for dominions 4?
Anonymous
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Any mod nations based on Finnish mythology?
Anonymous
>>120196428 the project omniocon's mod nations have some extremely well drawn sprites, and the penguin nation is pretty cute. not gay enough for me however.
Anonymous
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>>120197536 >not gay enough for me however. Are you a cute twink? :3
Anonymous
The mod inspector you guys linked me to is really neat, but it doesn't contain the descriptions of the nations themselves.
Anonymous
Anonymous
VanillaDoD Boars
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>>120192713 Hey fish, thanks for the gems by the way. If you want anything from me, just tell me. You're good people.
Anonymous
>>120198691 It's funny how some of the worst nations in the game (Abysia, R'lyeh) always seem to be winning in the lore.
Anonymous
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>>120199165 Abysia won because somebody let them run blood economy on a large scale forever.
Depopulated their shit though.
Anonymous
>>120198691 >Death magic >Blood magic >Christians 1 turn to Deathblood magic >Death magic >Blood magic >Christians 2 turn to furfaggotry >Death magic >Blood magic >Giants dying out because grimdark >Blood magic >Death magic >Last main Christian nation has some disturbing secret sects why are the late ages so edgy
Anonymous
>>120199650 >edgy The theme of the game is that elemental magic is fading and people have to cope with it. Blood magic, astral magic and death magic are the only renewable sources, and I don't see you complaining about astral even though it's tied to otherworld monsters and every nation rolls with it.
Fartganos Ermor
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>>120172424 Hey TC, I'm moving my remaining units from the monkey cap so you can attack it or whatever.
Anonymous
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>>120199870 >I don't see you complaining about I barely know shit about the game fam
Anonymous
>>120199650 it's the time of ending, magic is fading from the world. People to desperate means to maintain the power they once had.
And a couple of nations turn out better, Jomon, Pangaea, and Monkeys are all pretty nice.
Anonymous
>>120200130 >Weaboos >Demifurries(?) >Literally fucking monkeys But I guess it's better than nothing. Next question: Do nations get added in updates/patches or do you have to mod things to get more?
Nyanheimr
>>120190413 Yeah it did hurt, no idea why they were casting lightning bolt.
Anonymous
>>120200451 Nations get added in updates/patches, although they aren't exactly super frequent.
There have been five added in the past 18 months. Nazca, Theodoros, EA/MA/LA Xibalba. Before that was... Ur? I think? But I wouldn't be expecting them on a regular basis.
VanillaDoD Boars
>>120200519 Well next turn is going to hurt more. Get ready.
Anonymous
>>120200782 Thank you.
>>120200130 Theoretically, when non-dark magic sources will run out, will everybody turn to dark magic, or could nations defend themselves without it? Would nations eventually discard magic completely in favor of technology? Are giants and abysians 100% doomed to die?
Sorry for being such an annoying newfag but the lore of this game is dope.
Nyanheimr
Anonymous
>>120198691 I thought that Abysia was mixing with demons
Anonymous
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>>120201704 Yeah, but the demon mixing experiments never really got anywhere (apart from creating the Demonbred) while the human mixing experiments took over the whole nation eventually.
Anonymous
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>>120201148 Cannons could surely replace mages as long range artillery, and plagues and stuff can eventually be man-made, so yes. In my opinion, magic is doomed to fail, but far from failing.
Anonymous
>>120201148 well, it's kinda based on Earthdawn/shadowrun, so magic cycles in and out.
In that setting you get magic also being full on dead (just before shadowrun), and magic being so consentrated the world is overrun with horrors and the races have to survive in special bunkers (just before Earthdawn).
Those two parts aren't in Dominion, but the idea was that things cycle back to full magic, this just part of one cycle. The Wheel never stops turning.
Anonymous
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>>120204172 >The Wheel never stops turning. I wonder if the devs like WoT.
Anonymous
>>120204172 >The Wheel never stops turning. As, I assume, does for the Pantokrators?
Anonymous
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>>120204386 The message for victory includes you eventually drifting away from the world and following distant thing into the unknown. Pankomen are always temporary.
Anonymous
>Be old lady >Suddenly guy tells me I'm a 'pretender' or something >Claim throne thingies >Become pokémon >Fuck off into space
Anonymous
>>120206060 kek
Btw they really should add a statue that is based on that weird fuckboy in ancient rome that got elevated to godhood
Anonymous
>>120206685 Elagabalus.
He was named after a god, not the other way around.
Anonymous
How do you guys feel about the Omniomicon?
Anonymous
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>tfw no Glycon pretender
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120207446 Balance issues aside, they're some of the best mod nations around.
Anonymous
>>120207446 i tried 3 nations against AI.
superb sprites.
the developer is an idiot wasting his art and time on something that even an 8 year old would have balanced better. but i guess that if his idea was making a really overpowered and cool nation to play solo against multiple impossible AIs then it's ok.
one could argue that if you put one of those overpowered nations against the other then it would be balanced. but i doubt it and it's pretty stupid to not make them on the same power level of vanilla nations, as it would be easier to balance them and make the mod usable in some regular games.
Anonymous
>>120207247 No, I don't think it was that guy. IIRC he was killed at the age of 21 and he looked more beautiful
Anonymous
>>120207801 >>120207846 >>120208086 Are you considering their balance against the rest of the game? Because they're only supposed to be balanced against each other.
Anonymous
>>120208139 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Elagabalus He prostituted himself, he died at 22, he offered a huge sum of money to any doctor who could give him a vagina.
There was an older emperor who had a boytoy he drowned but he was actually a reasonably sane and good emperor.
Anonymous
What is the best way to REMOVE ELVES that is NOT having Forest Gump as your pretender?
Anonymous
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>>120208607 I don't think that it could depend more than it depends.
Anonymous
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>>120208607 Blot out the sky with arrows. Preferably flaming arrows.
Anonymous
>>120208559 I definetly can completly understand having a bit of fun with a boytoy.
Also I found him.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antinous Anonymous
The skeltals are really fun to play but my friends don't want to play with me anymore since I took over the world.
Anonymous
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>>120209060 Play Scelaria/Lemuria and pound his boypussy again.
I have to say it gets lonely if you completly eradicated every living being in the world.
Anonymous
>>120209037 That's actually the boytoy of the second emperor I mentioned funnily enough.
Anonymous
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>>120209395 I wish I had my own tbh. It would feel different than being with a girl I wager....
Anonymous
>>120209037 >>120209395 If I was a Roman emperor, I'd be basking in the glory of twink orgies, you can be 100% sure about it.
Anonymous
>>120209649 lewd anon, but I feel the same
I wonder when leaders stopped doing that. It certainly didn't stop with christianity, just look at some popes.
I bet it still continues today, but you just dont hear about it.
Anonymous
>>120210276 It doesn't really have to be underage, I've fucked guys in their early/mid twenties and it was amazing. The only sex I had with an 18 y/o guy was pretty awful. Same for girls, really, too young is just bad and they make lousy conversation partners.
Anonymous
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>>120208291 >Are you considering their balance against the rest of the game? yes.
>Because they're only supposed to be balanced against each other. i think this is a bad design idea.
it's extremely hard for one person to balance the vanilla game already.
By choosing to make mod nations more powerful you are taking away from your hands and from the hands of your testers many opportunities to draw comparisons and better balance
them.it might also be hard to match them with summons and regular gameplay(for example indie and mercenaries and event troops might end up underpowered in comaparison).you are making everything harder.
you are also throwing into the trashbin the possibility to run mixed games with vanilla nations and OMNIOCON nations which could have resulted in you getting high quality feedback and seeing your mod actually used.
what good do you get for this decision? nothing because good nations are cool even if at vanilla powerlevel.
also i am having big trouble thinking at how 0 resource -1 gold recruit anywhere troops from turn 1 could be easily balanced in the long run.
Anonymous
>Discussing how Roman emperors fucked little boys
Anonymous
>>120210464 I'm not talking about pedo shit, anon. Are you twinkish yourself btw?
I'm 21
Stale TNN
The g in /domg/ stands for gay :^)
Anonymous
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>>120210670 I'm sorry, anon, we'll stop in a few minutes
Anonymous
>>120210675 Yeah but you were talking about popes so I assumed you meant diddling little boys.
I am rather normal looking but if I shave my face I definitely look young.
>>120210829 I'd rather be gay than a namefag.
Anonymous
>>120210928 >I am rather normal looking but if I shave my face I definitely look young. Be in Germany pls.
Oh and facial hair is a big no no for me.
And it's not really about looking young, but cute when talking about twinks.
Anonymous
>>120210928 You realise that this general one of the few examples of names on 4chan being used correctly, right?
Anonymous
>>120211068 I live in northern
France .
Yeah facial hair is a huge turnoff for me as well.
>>120211125 Not really, no.
Anonymous
>>120211219 >I live in northern France. >Yeah facial hair is a huge turnoff for me as well. What do guys like you think of exclusive tops btw?
Anonymous
>>120211386 To each his own, I really don't have special opinions about them.
Anonymous
>>120211529 Okay, bit more personal, but this is anonymous so whatever, right?
Would you consider fucking/being in a relationship with an exclusive top? And I mean he wouldnt even suck your dick.
Anonymous
>facial hair is a big no for him >is an exclusive top >won't touch dick
Anonymous
>>120211849 I personally am a top so I don't think it would very satisfactory. I'd have to REALLY get along with him. But as long as I can cuddle, it's okay. So not sure.
Anonymous
Can we please not turn /domg/ into /soc/?
Anonymous
>>120212042 okay last question, you suck dick as a top right?
>>120211979 but I am plagued by daydreams of being with a cute twink, anon
Anonymous
>>120212195 >>120212052 Yeah sorry, last post to answer that Anon.
>>120212195 That's usually how it goes, yes.
Anonymous
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>>120212320 >>120212195 >okay last question, you suck dick as a top right? >That's usually how it goes, yes Damn ... that is so gay, I would never be able to do that. Fugg :DD
Anonymous
What is wrong with faggots that they're all such insufferable attention whores?
Anonymous
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>>120212468 What else would you expect from genetic fuckups?
Anyways, DO YOUR TURNS
Anonymous
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>>120212468 Yeah, I'd rather be with someone who looks like a faggot, but acts like a man.
Not homo enough to be with real men
Anonymous
I want to know who those people are so I can ban them from llamaserver.
NoStalers Vanarus
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>>120172570 >Remove Skellington But seriously, I sent most of the payment+5 Gems, the rest will come next turn.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120213479 Ah, sorry. I forgot that fags are not people.
Anonymous
>>120195031 Where are you? More importantly, where is Ulm?
Anonymous
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>>120213582 what are you even talking about?
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
And so it ends, without ever a need to harm the fluffiest of the Pantokrators creations.
TheNoobening Lanka
>>120213639 Ulm is at the top of the bottom landmass, I'm at the bottom of the map.
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
>>120213803 Every large luck income event was put into a fort, that and taking three of Sauros four forts helped massively, though C'tis lead/was equal for most of the game.
Anonymous
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>>120213968 Hm, I might be able to join the roflstomp
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
>>120214057 Despite being in caves, Xibalba managed to have a really good income, only bested by the wide and fertile lands of C'tis, especially when the former started blood hunting and trying to fight the fuzzie ones.
Also, domkill and tanked scales does make for shit income.
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
>>120214313 Large number of provinces + all paths but astral and blood meant gems out my ears, Sauro's capital and already searched lands helped too.
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
>>120214528 Apparently my speculation that spamming Spectral Philosophers, then using masses of Kabieros to make cheap owl quills and lightless lanterns, would give good research was an underestimate. The world had exactly three wars, Mitclan vs C'tis, Sauro vs Boars and Xibalba v Boars, so research was strong all arround.
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
>>120214912 C'tis managing to outshine my Dom 10 seems to be due to a mass of temples, his land ended covered with them.
Not much else unpredictable here.
Anonymous
So when it comes to thrones... which are the best?
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
>>120215147 Ten cap-sacreds a turn for most the game gave me a decent amount of ellite forces, in the Xiblabian war the spectral troops crumbled to dust to dust and the like. Still I'm surprised how muh troops I had.
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
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>>120215445 Treasury of madness, the rings were to move Kabieros to my capital, learnt halfway through shambler skin is just better.
Anonymous
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>>120215396 Throne of Knowledge
Chalice Of Salt Therodos
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>>120215445 Research, not that it isn't obvious from th research garh, went into the Xiblabian war with all 8s asside from blood
Chalice of Salty Boars
>>120213803 I enjoyed that game. And learned a few things. So no more turns? I vaguely understand throne points.
Chalice of Salty Boars
>>120214912 look at that wealthy oral tradition of knowledge and research. Maybe refusing to use books and communicating only in porcine squeals isn't the best idea. But this is the early age after all.
TheNoobening Admin
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Since it seems people are getting a little warsy, I'm going to increase the turn timer so people have time to negotiate.
Anonymous
New dude here, can I ask some questions?
Anonymous
>>120218117 It depends. For your first prophet you usually use the free commander you get at the start of the game, to support your expansion and bless any sacred troops you might use with Divine Blessing. If you don't need that support and don't use sacred units, you can use your starting scout for a stealthy H3 which has some nice applications. Some nations might choose not to get a prophet on the first turn, for example if you have a recruitable H3 (making them a prophet makes them H4, which is otherwise hard to get), or if you want an undead prophet (which can raise more undead for free).
The usual advice is to start building your fort somewhere in the second half of the first year, so it's finished early in the second year. temples and labs depends on your nation and on any indies you might want to recruit (a lot of them are shit, but some of them are extremely useful), but in most cases you'll want to build one of each in every fort.
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>>120218971 >>120218117 i'd like to add that you have to mind about your neighbour possibly run onto your in construction fort, although forts on borders are generally a strong option.
as temples can easily be destroyed i would strongly advise against building them outside forts, especially on the border.
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>>120218117 >Who to prophet? Generally, your free commander. The most efficient thing for your prophet to be doing is using prophet spells, since there are no H crosspaths.
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>>120216123 No more turns, my pretender has become Pantokrator due to having enough throne points, twelve in this case. Each claimed (Not just in your territory) throne gives a numbr of points between 1 and 3, as shown in the Statistics tab.
>>120216336 Starting in the waste block I'm amazed at what you managed, spamming stargazers may help though.
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>>120220989 Good this one is full of the gay.
