Slice of Life Edition
Dominions is a fantasy turn-based strategy game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 2800 units, 800 spells and 300 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them.
It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a strategy game.
>Steamgroup Join the steamgroup for multiplayer
http://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya >Group chatroom steam://friends/joinchat/103582791434709795
>Our work-in-progress wiki http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki >Dom4 Manual http://jaffa.illwinter.com/dom4/manual_dom4.pdf >Dom4 Inspector This is a community resource that has every unit, spell, and item in the game in an accessible database.
http://larzm42.github.io/dom4inspector/ >Play by email guide: http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=202096551 >Pastebin http://pastebin.com/JMmSrpdE >Debug Mod: For testing battle formations and spells
http://www.desura.com/games/dominions-4-thrones-of-ascensions/forum/thread/debug-mod >Where do I get it? It is available on Gamersgate and Steam. Desura is ded.
There is no functional pirate version.
>THE BASICS >Read the manual >Read the pastebin >Read the memes >I want to play X Heavy infantry nations with simple magic for noobs: MA Ulm, Abysia, LA Man
Human nations with a lot of diversity: T'ien Ch'i (any age), Arcoscephale (EA and LA), EA Ermor
Giant nations with a major bless: Niefelheim, Fomoria, Ashdod
Necromancy: C'tis, Sceleria, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Lemuria, Nazca
Sneaky Nations: Vanheim, TNN, Eriu, MA Man, Xibalba, Caelum
Edge Nations: Lanka, Sauromatia, MA Ermor, Asphodel, Hinnom
Stalewarriors Agartha
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Pangaea: You will be receiving an in-game message regarding borders.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>tfw you cede provinces to an ally, he loses them, and you have to take them back
Torvale
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hey Oceania if your on, how goes the Golem hunt?
Anonymous
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>>120459194 mapmakingishard
Anonymous
>>120458812 Is MA Man and Caelum good at sneaking?
Castledoc Vanarus
admin, I get helping a friend and being busy, but I also get wanting the game to go faster than this in the extreme earlygame.
Anonymous
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>>120459598 Caelum is birds. They aint sneaky they just have mm3 and flying. So you can go from "no birds" to "oh shit birds on every fort and in all my provinces" very quickly.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Quite frankly, I hate those anime OP images. At least use something thematic.
Anonymous
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I'm streaming vs ai at the moment if anyone wants to watch, have a named general, or just chill.pls no bully
Anonymous
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>>120461693 It's vidya fanart
Anonymous
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>>120461693 Suwako and Kanako are my favorite vidya gods behind Forestor Bob and SMT Yaweh
Anonymous
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>>120461693 Yeah IDK what's up with the bizarre turn time. What's even weirder is that this turn was just rolled back, so all he'd have to do is resend his turn.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120464808 we're all so mad about castledoc
Anonymous
Anonymous
Are wailing ladies worth investing in?
Anonymous
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>>120466256 They are situational, so if you're not sure you can use them well, continue pumping out lictors.
Anonymous
>>120466226 Why is a Caelian Seraph dressed as a Jomon soldier?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120466256 Wailing ladies are horribly overpriced for what they do. Everyone that you fight is going to be fielding anti-undead spells, and they aren't nearly survivable enough to take those to the face, which they need to be able to do since they're melee range. Then, once they do get close to something, they need to beat an MR check in order to actually kill whatever they're killing. If you have the research to cast Disintegrate, even a Spectator can do a better job of 1 shot killing things.
Anonymous
>>120466990 They're pretty good against low MR chaff like swarm bugs or big blockers like ogres and vine ogres
Anonymous
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>>120467537 Not at that price point they're not. More lictors or mages will always do more.
TornVale
How about we dispel that shit? I don't want to give my gems to squids.
tornvale sceleria
>>120467790 Not to tip my butthole too much, but I may or may not have a high level astral mage.
Anonymous
>>120468021 Would 30 pearls be enough?
tornvale sceleria
>>120468068 That's what I guess Im about to find out this turn. Will updort next turn. Will start panhandling next turn if this one don't work out.
Sidenote: it's possible to dispel your own global, right? Because holy shit, Im about to fucking gamble here.
Anonymous
>>120467790 Why don't you just kill the caster?
Anonymous
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>>120468204 Are you kidding? R'lyeh is one of the biggest guys in the game, and he has a shitton of UW provinces. Even if the whole world would attack him, it would take at least 10 turns to get to his capital.
tornvale dedburds
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>>120468190 I'll give pearls to whoever has the highest S caster if that doesn't work.
Anonymous
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>>120468190 You can always cast Fate of Oedipus on yourself :^)
tornvale sceleria
In any case, before i, or someone else, inevitably dispels it, some score graphs of provinces
Anonymous
>>120468190 If you're trying to put up your own global to counter astral nexus a) that's retarded and b) you have even odds of hitting each global that's up.
tornvale sceleria
tornvale sceleria
tornvale sceleria
tornvale sceleria
tornvale sceleria
Anonymous
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>>120468190 1) READ
2) THE
3) MANUAL
You can dispel your own global through standard means (dispel, killing the caster). If you cast another global while 5 are already up, several things happen.
1) If the same enchantment is already up, go to the third step right away.
2) The global that you cast chooses one of 5 existing globals RANDOMLY, and tries to dispel it. You can dispel your own existing enchantments this way.
3) The dispel attempt happens. Spell powers of two globals are compared, and the strongest one wins. The formula is: [spell power of your spell + DRN] vs [spell power of the other spell + DRN]. If you succeed, you put your global in the place of the existing one.
Spell power is measured as follows: +1 per every gem added OVER the base cost of the spell (so Dispel cast with only 30 gems will have 0 base power), +5 per every path point in the main path the caster has OVER the needed minimum (so S5 caster casting Dispel with 30 gems will automatically get 10 power). DRN is 2d6 with exploding sixes, read the manual.
tornvale sceleria
And of course, Gem Income
>>120469073 Or maybe I have my own global up. or thousands of scouts and tons of acashic whatevers being spammed, who knows~
If interest: Pythium/Ryleh/Nazca have the most the provinces/income, while Pythium/Ermor/Nazca has a solid lead on gems. Ulm is somehow uber researching, while Ermor/Pythium/Nazca have the largest armies. Ermor/Nazca/Oceania (?) seem to be rocking the highest dominion
Anonymous
>>120469743 Skeleton singularity soon, fellow pretender.
Also,
>>120469498 >Ermor has bad research tornvale sceleria
Anonymous
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>>120470061 TOO LATE
Everybody saw your small gem dick.
Anonymous
>berserk attribute bonuses are cumulative
tornvale sceleria
>>120470042 You don't even know the half of it, amigo.
Also Ermor is rocking either a magic 2 build with that outer throne throne boosting it to +3, or started off with magic 3
Anonymous
>>120470215 I'd guess that he also had to have found indie mages and continuously recruited them, so expect something like lizard shamans or sages to power his communion. Be worried.
Anonymous
>>120470215 To be honest, I don't see any reason not to start with magic 3 as spooky nations. Especially as Lemuria, because revenants and indies are your only options for research.
Tornvale Dedburd
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>>120469498 >>120469743 I guess I could turn my supermummies off ghostburd production and towards fixing my research deficit.
but ghostburds.
>>120469867 >ulm uber research 1 gem quills and lanterns.
Anonymous
>>120470163 no, meaning if you have thing that gives Berserker +2 and they already have Berserker +2 they will now have +4.
TornVale Ermor
>>120470298 You don't know the half of it...
Anonymous
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>>120470440 Honestly, you should use the boots for the E1 sorcerors. The E2s can cast it without them.
Anonymous
>>120470418 I see. Just how much berserk can you stack on one non-pretender?
TornVale Ermor
Oh, yes. I mostly use these guys for research. 40 research for 20 gems is a pretty good deal for the nation without anything recruitable. A few mentors was enough for a nice boost, so most of my revenants just have a single lantern (22 research for 12 gems).
Anonymous
>>120470775 >unironically crafting skull mentors >as Ermor Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu
TornVale Ermor
>>120470851 >caring about this shit >with 50 gems per turn pshhh.... kidd....
Anonymous
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>>120470775 It's a spirit of the underworld bound to the dead body, guided by another spirit bound to a skull, guided by the dark flame that reveals secrets. All that's missing is a pocket lich.
Anonymous
>>120470889 I do anon. Death gems are so much more useful than fire gems
Anonymous
>>120470851 >>120470775 Should I be using spectators or revenants for researchers?
Anonymous
>>120471101 Spectators since they're multi use
Anonymous
>>120471045 you can't double stack lanterns.
Anonymous
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>>120471317 I know, but death gems have more uses than research boosting.
Ermor can't exactly grow their gem economy to buy more mages.
Anonymous
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>>120471101 Usually, you shouldn't create Revenants at all as Ermor. If you have an awake pretender, go for Dusk Elders, and create Spectators when there are spare gems (it also heavily depends on the way you want to get your lictors). There's almost no difference with the gem/research rate between them at Magic 1/3. Spectators can also skelespam and cast disintegrate, while revenants are just dedicated research batteries. If you have enough spare gems, you can think about dipping into revenants with lanterns though. As that would allow your main mages to participate in battles. Also, don't lose Dusk Elders. This could really cripple you in the long run.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120471204 Revenants are barely more efficient than Spectators even in Magic 3 dominion (equal in Magic 2 and worse at any other level). Spectators are extremely useful whereas Revenants can't do anything but research. Always get Spectators over them.
Anonymous
>>120471560 disregard that, I can't do basic math. It's still worth getting spectators though.
Anonymous
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>>120471560 >>120471964 Yes, that's the point.
You should definitely get Revenants as Lemuria though.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Which pretender wud u fuq
Anonymous
Anonymous
Should I summon Huli Jing/Kitsune?
Anonymous
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>>120476776 Touch fluffy tail.
Anonymous
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>>120476492 Void Lord x Polypal
Anonymous
since it somehow made it all the way to here before anyone posted it, here's the last thread - >120227394
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Anonymous
>TFW you have a gem income of 125 per a turn in a multiplayer game
Anonymous
Game: NoStalersAllowed
Anonymous
>>120483705 I like to sleep at least 7 hours.
Anonymous
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>>120483705 Join more games pleb.
Anonymous
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>>120483136 Just mass produce flame spirits.
Anonymous
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>>120483136 with a philosopher stone artifact you can turn a fire gem into around 35 gold which might be useful if someone put up some gold ruining global.
you can craft plenty of fire in a jar and use a small squad of crappy fire mages spamming fire elementals as small army.
flame spirit sounds good. and you should summon it if you don't have many fire mages around as it can cast heat from hell/warrior of musphelheim.
but 30 gems for a flame spirit is like 1000 gold if you had converted them with a philosopher stone.would you pay 1000 for an F3 dude?if more of your national mages are better than more fire 3 mages it might even be worth it to build another fort+lab and to recruit one extra mage/turn.
i am sure you know about crafting lightless lanterns, maybe you should think about trading them out too.
otherwise you can craft wand of wild fire for 15 gems which let a scout spam fireball at very low fatigue.
in a long combat 2 scouts with wand of wild fire will shit out more fire than a single fatiguing flame spirit and items have the benefit of being able to "teleport" in any lab every month.
fire snakes are not a bad summons either.
i would also suggest you to craft fire armor and helmet over the better earth/death alternatives for your least improtant thugs.
Anonymous
>>120484992 Weak, learn polyphasic sleep for MOAR TURNS
Anonymous
>>120491383 That's generally untenable.
Not for any health reasons from everything I've read, just because your body tends to slip back into normallity.
Anonymous
>>120494856 Then just STOP SLEEPING, CAST TWICE BORN AND GET TO DOING TURNS
I think sleep deprivation is making me lose contact with reality.
Am I becoming a pretender?
Anonymous
>>120496197 You are on 4chan, the only contact with reality you had in the first place is your mom.
Anonymous
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>>120496630 I contact your mom with my reality all the time.
she's a very good psychiatrist[/spoiler:lit] Anonymous
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>>120496630 I have no mom, I was
freespawned Anonymous
>Dominions will never be an esport >you will never get paid to meme scrubs
Anonymous
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>>120498246 it's too random and fun-based to be taken seriously.
also i don't want to seepeopel try harding and putting 3x RoS casters on every border.
Anonymous
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>>120498246 >k8 will never return >you will never play another game with the last genuine version of /domg/mod Anonymous
>>120498246 If people took this game very seriously nations like Pan would be the only ones that would be played.
Anonymous
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>>120499043 or maybe we could accept to use those little already existing balance mods that attempt to close the gap.
Anonymous
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I guess this is probably gg.
Anonymous
>>120461693 Amuys is currently stalling EVERY fucking game he is in. What a jerk.
Anonymous
>>120483705 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BANDAR LOG DO YOUR TURN REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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Castledoctrine pan do a fuckibg double turn this time you colluding piece of garbage.
TornVale R'lyeh
Anonymous
>>120500315 Don't you NEETs have anything better to do than post facebook frogs on /domg/ and complain about people taking their time on turns?
Anonymous
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>>120500885 DOMINIONS IS A STRICTLY NEET GAME, NORMIES GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT GET OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUT OUTREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCeOf2q6_TA Anonymous
>>120500885 I post from work.
In the hopes that asshokes will do their turn so I can do mine after work.
>>120500885 Noobining Mictlan
so bats have decided to eat me.
Anonymous
>>120502484 Why didn't you take all those farm provinces to the south of you?
Also Berytos, 15 storm demons and some national troops will not save you from 40 W9 Palankashas.
Noobining Mictlan
>>120502713 do you mean 27 and past?
I moved towards that with my first and third expansion parties.I got a couple of bad bounces off of surprising mages which slowed me right down.
I could have gotten there a few turns earlier I suppose if I hadn't bothered with the mountains, or put all of my forces in that direction. but the first farm was 5 wastelands away from my cap.
I was pretty starved.
Anonymous
>>120503075 This map is pretty hard to expand on if you're stuck in a bad location, yeah. The bottom half of the map is 50% wastelands, swamps and mountains, which is why it's not exactly balanced.
Anonymous
>>120502484 If you have Xib problems I feel bad for you son
I got 99 problems, but a Bat ain' one
Noobining Mictlan
>>120503215 also having a level three throne blocking off my only non-river access to nearby farms and forest.
and a random draconian province just to add insult to injury.
And having bats be my neighbors to the more profitable north.
The temptation to just go AI has been strong.
Anonymous
>>120502713 >15 storm demons and some national troops will not save you from 40 W9 Palankashas It depends If you can't cast arrowfend, a bunch of wind guide / flaming arrow archers will easily handle W9 Palankashas.
Anonymous
>>120503250 >They didn't remove bats immediately upon contact Having massable flying stealthy raiders is such a ridiculous thing on its own already and they're a blood nation with good summons and decent mages.
Anonymous
>>120500095 Amuys does this every few months. Stop playing games with Amuys.
Anonymous
>>120503398 There's always giving all your goodies to another nation and suiciding your armies at Xibatbat's capital at full force
Anonymous
>>120503571 You would probably want a quite a few more archers than Palankashas to do that, which he does not.
Noobining Mictlan
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>>120503589 if you mean me. That wasn't really an option, do to being starved.
I was hoping to last long enough to get some ok provinces so I could do a thing.
>>120503695 might happen. going to try and hold out for now. If someone starts attacking bats they might get my goodies.
>>120503869 well this is true. You can do it for close to the same gold value in archers, and they aren't cap only.
Still, I interpreted 'some' to mean less then 100, which is probably what you meant.
100 national troops with decent mage support could do the job.
Anonymous
>>120503589 How do I remove bat?
Anonymous
>>120504725 be ulm, be asshole, cast first turn RoS. fuck you.
Anonymous
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>>120504759 step 3:
complain nobody else is removing bats for you.
Anonymous
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>>120503636 >people still play games with SA scum Please.
Anonymous
>>120504725 Probably the best way is to be Niefelhiem or something and find their cap within the first half dozen turns, hope they waste their troops trying to kill your much superior ones.
Anonymous
>>120505128 What if it's around 22-24 turns in and you're not niefelheim or ulm and bats are nearing the thousands?
Anonymous
>>120505364 Perpetual storm fucks bats up real nice.
Anonymous
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>>120505507 That might work, although it does require a good air mage and 70 air gems to begin with.
Anonymous
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>>120501243 >having a job REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Anonymous
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Any new games opening up soon? Preferably something small.
Anonymous
How many new players do we have? Hasn't this thread advocated bat, bird, elf, and blood-nation genocide forever?
Anonymous
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>>120508874 By the time I had realized bats were not stomped, it was too late, and they started pretty far away from most of us.
CastleDoctrine Admin
>>120459683 I'll have a word and make sure he does double turns.
Anonymous
>>120459683 Just quit the game. The admin is a shitter that just wants to jerk off with his faggot friend.
Anonymous
A message for the admins of the following games:>NoStalersAllowed >Stalewarriors >SunPlain >TornVale
Anonymous
>>120513709 Faggot.
Don't forget to send all your gems to Ermor in TornVale, and Niefelheim in Stalewarriors. Anonymous
>>120513832 >implying I won't just send them to R'lyeh in both games CastleDoctrine Admin
>>120512085 I also know two other people in the game. I must be colluding with them too surely?
I was/am the admin of: ScrubOff, ExtremeWays, Formosa, Persia, Haerland, TornVale, FirstBreath and CastleDoctrine.
Gents its fine, even though I make sure all stalers get AI'ed and the game runs smoothly, this much hostility is a bit much for just upping the turn time. I'll take my leave. I don't need to monitor this thread after all, I'm working to a 1st standard in uni and its really rough work. Not much free time and all.
>>120513709 Set AI please. People bitch too much.
Anonymous
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>>120514035 Ia Ia Astral Spam ftaghn
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>>120514035 >Implying I'm not secretly R'lyeh Anonymous
>>120514207 >this much hostility is a bit much for just upping the turn time. I'll take my leave. Please just fuck off to whatever hugbox you crawled out of.
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>>120514207 >Set AI please. People bitch too much. That's for TornVale, I assume?
R'lyeh is going to enjoy this.
Anonymous
>>120513709 What nations? I might be able to sub for a game.
Anonymous
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>>120514035 Please send them to jews. We are your greatest ally.
Anonymous
>>120513709 >>120514636 I might be interested in subbing too. Give us the nations for each game you're in, and what turns they're up to, please.
Anonymous
>>120514207 Get lost and don't come back.
Stop hosting shit to fuck around and metaclub with your friends. Or at least don't do it in public or do it on steam with the rest of the shitters.
Anonymous
>>120514636 >>120514765 NoStalersAllowed: Mictlan, turn 13
Stalewarriors: Helheim, turn 17
SunPlain: Sarzzig, turn 59
TornVale: Mictlan, turn 51
Tornvale Dedburds
>>120514207 huh, I've been or am in several of those.
Also, I've been thinking about trying a slightly different god from what I got stuck with if I do nazca again.
F9 instead of D9 this time. A4 because I want to make air boosters and such without having to double empower. Also, all my mages are sacred, so giving them extra precision seems good.
The water I'm less sure about. I can go W2 and still get up to all the important water and crosspath stuff, and then get either another scale or 2 more dominion. But having the W4 bless seems nice.
Anonymous
>>120516135 defense isn't worthwhile on supaya.
they already have above average defense, and are ethereal, they don't give shits about melee is what I'm trying to say and defense doesn't help with ranged which is their big killer (flaming arrows)
Anonymous
Is it just me or does Blood magic cost way too many bloodslaves for its mediocre effects in combat?
Anonymous
>>120516408 Blood slaves are vastly easier to acquire in large quantities than gems.
Tornvale Dedburds
>>120514438 >>120514947 I've been in several of his games and they've all been fine. He's been responsive and handled stalers well.
There is one guy who need 36 hours for his turns, calm the fuck down. If you with super fast hosting make your own.
Anonymous
>>120516515 36 hours is fine.
36 hours on turn 10 when you won't even do double turns is not okay, it's rude.
2scrubs1tub Bats
what was that machaka?i might have missed any of your messages.
Anonymous
>>120516515 >36 hours >10 turns in >Because his faggot friend needs more time to wank him off If I wanted to not play a game I wouldn't have bothered sending in my pretender.
Tornvale Dedburds
>>120516368 seems reasonable. W2 seems worth it, as it means you can forge up to W4, which lets you get staff of the elements with the fire path. And that kinda opens up a lot of things.
Otherwise I'd consider doing the Sun titan, but it only give you one more scale.
So now debating, Dom7, or Dom5 with only sloth 1 or with magic 1.
2SCRUBS1TUB Ulm
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>>120516745 Did someone attack you finally?
Anonymous
>>120516971 take sloth 2 the income malus is insignificant and you don't need that many resources
Tornvale Dedburds
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>>120516601 agree on the double turn bit, but so does the admin. see
>>120511404 >>120516913 My best friend has 2 kids and a full time job. I get making sacrifices to find time to play with them. 36 hours enough for having one time to play a day but needing a buffer incase something comes up. if he starts stalling I'll change my tone.
>>120516408 >>120516493 agree, but blood isn't a great combat magic school. It's got some good bits, but I'd say it's power comes from the rituals.
Anonymous
>>120516971 Magic's not a huge deal for Nazca. You do like research, but you're also recruiting primarily Hurin Priests since they can do stuff other than research. This means that your 'lab rats' are primarily expensive rather than cheap,low research mages so you don't get quite as much out of the +1 research per mage.
Anonymous
>>120470215 >>120470314 I always assumed magic+3 was standard for Ermor/Lemuria.
Sure it makes your units more susceptible to banish. But all you're doing it researching and summoning more casters every turn.
Tornvale Dedburds
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>>120517207 so magic 1 or dom7?
My research has been a little poor this game, but I don't think this is the result of having bad researchers but my mages being doing other things.
Dom5 has been doable, but I like the buffer of dom7, especially with scales I want to spread and an imprisoned pretender.
Anonymous
>>120517467 Always on Lemuria. For Ermor, you always take it when you're not running a tribless.
Anonymous
>>120517416 your acalla make way better lab rats than hurin priests. they can aimed fireballs with a little investment, they can bless spam otherwise, and Magic 1 gives them the gold standard 10G:1rp
Anonymous
>>120517690 Hurin Priests are less efficient researchers, but great mages and you usually want as many of them as possible.
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>>120517847 sure, recruit as many as possible but not making Acalla more often than not seems like a lot of potential RP wasted. especially since you can make 2 for every hurin
Anonymous
AS
Anonymous
What might you fellas want to see in a hosted LA game?
Tornvale Dedburds
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>>120517847 >>120517690 I've been using acalla as labrat with hurin priests as more doing stuff.
I'm buying both largely based on money I have so that I'm using all or at least most of my fort recruit turns. So there are turns where I can buy 3 aclla or 1 priest.
I also found that after getting a good stable of Royal Mummies, I'm buying mainly Incas and Coyas from the cap, as those are both really good and I can afford to be always buying those and keep up my other mage recruitment and other buys, while buying more mummies would leave broke.
Anonymous
>>120518253 >LA I want an MA game
Host an MA game
Do it you faggot
I fucking hate you
Anonymous
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>>120518236 IMPERIAL ALCHEMISTS FOR SITESEARCHING
CELESTIAL MASTERS OTHERWISE IN CAP
MINISTERS AS LAB RATS
GEOMANCERS AS YOUR MAIN COMBAT MAGE
Anonymous
>>120518493 >MA game >Inevitable Ermor player Anonymous
>>120518493 tornvale sated my desire for an MA. Aren't there many MA games running?
Anonymous
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>>120518656 >mad cuz people like skeleton legion type characters Necromancers are cool, yo.
Anonymous
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>>120518656 Actually I want to try
MA R'lyeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah Hello Hello Anonymous
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>>120518782 there are a dickload of MA games up.
Anonymous
>there will never be an undeath and blood civ
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>>120519539 But anon
Skeletons have no blood.
Anonymous
Anonymous
YOU HAVE THE ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE FOUR(4) MAJOR BLESSES AT ONCE
Anonymous
How do I show only global enchants in the inspector?
Anonymous
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>>120520829 WNBD or WBFN depending on the sacreds.
Anonymous
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>>120521117 I figured it out.
effect_number == 81
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>>120520829 only some blesses synergize with each other and it turns out the only synergy worth shit is hp->blood vangeance.
you can get the best offensive ( w9 f9 +shit) bless but it's still gonna fall under evoblasting, even if you add hp. and the only way to fuck up evoblasting is N9 B9. your sacreds are eventually going to do damage even if they can't clear one square/turn.
but there is only so much N9B9 can do, and it's pretty boring and slow.
F9 is shit when W9 exist and you got the strenght bonus from B9. D9 is rendundant even if strong.
so i'd go with W9 as the only offensive side of the bless. it's good for everything and defense counter the counter to B9 which is troops.
the last choice is the hardest. if we wanted to get stronger at what we are we would go D9 for massive hp.
E9 would turn any summon into a good thug for 5 gems.
but all of this would leave us weak to magic negates spell such as army of rats/mass mind control or shit that fuck up us without damaging. we want to cover our weak sides, and it's still gem saved from our lategame thugs.
S9's cheat fate doesn't do shit, but it forces more gems for battlefield damage spam and allows us to use evocations without losing mages to our own BV.
so i would confirm B9N9W9S9.
i can see points for taking out N9 for D9 because " two more hp, extra damage and we can get regen anyway lategame". yeah lategame. you can't always aim for lategame. regen is cool and it has damage anyway with W9B9. regen is better for super thugs.
ultimately *it depends* on the units. low hp units with good MR woudl be better with N9D9B9W9 rather than S9.
Anonymous
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>>120514207 >I ran a bunch of shitty games >and I'm bitching because people know that I collude and people don't want the turn timer increased Pretty faggy tbh.
Stalewarriors
Caelum and Fomoria send your tuuuuurns
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120524651 Those two are last again?
Why are they last every time?
Anonymous
10 player LA Pelywyr, or
Anonymous
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>>120525225 >29 players fuck that. there are already big games up and no one want another stale party that will get abandoned.
Anonymous
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>>120525225 LA not even a contest
Anonymous
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>>120517572 Tribkess Ermor is valid since you have good sacred free spawn. Lemurs I can't for the life of me figure what bless you would ever need
Anonymous
Anonymous
Hey guys what's going on in this thread?
Anonymous
>>120526290 >tri-strong bless >not even dormant What's she going to do in the first 5 turns?
Anonymous
>>120526751 Boost Enchantment research, then become an autonomous expansion party.
Anonymous
>>120526910 that's a terrible idea when you lose luck 3 over it.
Anonymous
>>120527381 Fuck luck, I've got Blood Vengeance 38hp regenerating 20STR Lictors
Anonymous
>>120526290 wouldn't it be worth it to go dormant and get to luck 0?
staying 12 turns without recruiting your best mage ( you still can with empowering) sounds better than risking to lose 200 gold every 2 turns and getting your lab burned down.
Anonymous
>>120528060 >>120527381 Fine you whiny babies.
Anonymous
>>120527717 Go imprisoned and get 3 luck you fool what the hell do you need your pretender for with super death knights
Anonymous
>>120528219 congrates you went from a tinymap cute trick to a standard, for a good reason, ermor build.
>>120528348 dormant has it's value, boosting up research in the midgame and giving you access to powerful magicy goodness which is pretty useful.
Having 2 years of that early seems worth it for 2 scales.
Anonymous
>>120528934 I went from fun to boring.
Anonymous
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>>120529102 >Misfortune 3, Drain 3 >fun Whatever you say.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120528219 >>120528060 >>120526290 i just tested the bitch. put up personal regenration and she still can't conquer a province with a bunch of niggers.
cold 3 fuck her up.
Anonymous
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>>120529315 No shit sherlock. Why did you think I told you awake was a dumb idea?
Anonymous
>>120529315 She has 59 research. Use her to get to Enchantment 3 then you can solo expand with her and any Dusk Elder you summoned thus far. That means at least four autonomous expansion parties at turn six.
Anonymous
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>>120529102 well 'fun' in the sense of something that's cute and might get a chuckle but gets old really quick because it just doesn't work.
And you went to a varient of standard, not necessarily boring. The game has enough variables and randomness that it can't become too predictable, and being able to be involved in that interesting stuff requires you to have a base that at least functions.
And there is plenty of interest to be had in adding variation on that theme. Going for dormant instead of imprisoned for example.
Anonymous
>>120529883 Yeah try that and get back to us
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120531836 It's a very strong bless, especially if you can field lots of relatively cheap sacreds. But it's by no means impossible to beat.
Anonymous
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>>120530485 Easy
Cba to finish the first year but yeah I have 3 stable expansion parties and I'd have had a fourth one if I didn't forget to summon a Dusk Elder.
Anonymous
>>120531836 it's strong only if your sacred are cheap/in big quantities.
also they should have some sort of fighting power.
it's not true that you can't spam evocations against them. you just need to pay attention and accept that by casting fireball you are trading 1 mage for 10 sacreds.
the best way to beat them is taking some troops that are decent against them, put up antimagic, have mages cast some buffs/debuff ( earth meld, fatigue debuffs, any buff) or skelespam.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120531836 It's a huge investment for something with so many counters, but it will steamroll scrubs.
Anonymous
>>120535818 >you just need to pay attention and accept that by casting fireball you are trading 1 mage for 10 sacreds. Usually not worth the mage losses.
But what you can do with some nations is to put 30 gems worth of mr on high power mage and drop some bullshit communion powered shadowblasts or maws that will clear out a lot of squares without mage dying.
Anonymous
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>>120532992 That's uh. Wow. The only thing I don't get is that since it was a rolled back turn, he could just have just resent his turn and then added the extension.
Anonymous
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>>120536623 The fact that counters exist doesn't mean that it's not good. If you have an affordable pretender for it, it still lets you take decent scales and the high nature magic is good for globals if you want to vie for them.
>>120535818 is right in that it just depends on what your sacreds are. If you're producing a lot of sacred meat like Mictlan or Xibalba does, then B9 is great. N9 is sometimes good and sometimes overrated.
Anonymous
>>120536724 >Usually not worth the mage losses. a B9N9 nation has invested a lot in its bless and is paying its sacreds (if not with gold, certainly with effort and economy).
what's wrong with trading mages with that? as long as the ratio of trading is good.
of course few high MR mages in communion or certain spells are better than 20 mages doing fireballs, but that doesn't mean it's totally not viable.
SunPlain Admin
>>120513709 >>120514969 >SunPlain: Sarzzig, turn 59 I'd personally prefer to extend if we can't get a sub, but what do the other players think?
It sounds like it'd be a week without turns, maybe a week and a half at worst.
Alternatively, we could continue and have everyone avoid attacking Sarzzig until he stops staling.
Anonymous
>>120538762 letting him stale without being able to attack him sounds weird but i am fine with everything.
Anonymous
>>120538762 Just AI him if you can't find a sub.
Anonymous
>>120538762 >Alternatively, we could continue and have everyone avoid attacking Sarzzig until he stops staling. You'd be better off just setting him to AI. A rule like this is awkward and hard to enforce (how do you know his enemies won't be assassinating his researchers or casting cancer rituals at his capital?), it'll annoy the other players with constant stales, and when he gets back he'll be fucked anyway due to not doing anything for 5-10 turns.
SunPlain Admin
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>>120539236 >>120539434 I guess so.
I'm just not keen on setting another nation AI, especially one which looks to be in quite a strong position.
Anonymous
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>>120514969 NoStalersAllowed would just die with no turns for a week.
SunPlain Admin
>>120539189 >>120539236 >>120539434 Also, if you're in the game could you attach your names so I can get an idea of who wants what?
As mentioned before, my vote goes to extending.
Anonymous
>>120540165 Machsoheim here, I'm ok with waiting. Could use a little break myself tbh.
Anonymous
>>120538150 Most B9N9 nations rely on cheap and massable troops. Often with good polls of hp or freespawn troops (bats get both).
Trading mages for that is rarely efficient unless you can really kill a lot of troops with a single mage.
Mages are also not as easily replaceable as troops. Sure you could win the war with B9N9 nation by trading mages right now, but then you'd be twenty mages/fort turns behind for the next war. I'd much prefer trading more troops which are faster to recruit or easier to summon. It might not be as beneficial in terms of gold/gem investment, but the losses are far easier to recover.
sunplain harheim
for a start i would pause 1-2 days to find a sub.
SunPlain Admin
>>120540831 Cool.
>>120541087 >for a start i would pause 1-2 days to find a sub. We can let the current turn go through first, since he's submitted it already.
For anyone interested in subbing for him, he's a hoburg nation with lots of blood magic.
Also has recruit-anywhere sacred deer cavalry which I think he took a W9 bless for.
Anonymous
SunPlain Trifurt
>>120543039 As his neighbour and fellow Hoburg, I'd be willing to wait for him to get back, it's a slow game anyway.
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120514969 Eh, given the map, just no-one bee-line for him and eat him while he's staling.
Anonymous
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>>120529313 Gath is in to the party.
SunPlain Konbaboon
>>120548509 While you're here, mind discussing where that army of yours at 50 is going?
SunPlain Trifurt
>>120549597 East, to link up my east and west.
SunPlain Konbaboon
>>120549875 That's a bit of a problem for me, since I was planning to move south and take the fort at 44 next.
Can you move in a different direction?
SunPlain Triffurt
>>120550378 Awwwww, but I want to link east and west up.
SunPlain Konbaboon
>>120550832 But why? All it does it leave your territory really stretched out.
Anonymous
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>>120552049 Time to invade the elves
Anonymous
>>120552049 Wait, is that just a hole in to space?
...is that a Battle of Wesnoth map?
Anonymous
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>>120554340 Made using the Wesnoth map maker.
SunPlain Konbaboon
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>>120550832 >>120551946 Actually, you're going a different way than I thought. If you're moving to 58 next turn, we're going to run into each other.
Anonymous
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>No turns for the whole day >three turn up at once I hope nobody here is from /kfg/
Anonymous
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>>120548786 You're a great admin.
Anonymous
Anonymous
Anonymous
I've been wanting to get into a new nation /domg/ help me pick my poison.
Anonymous
>>120562834 EA Agartha and its big Earth and Olms makes for an incredibly fun game on a map with lots of caves... If you don't mind that everything is mapmove 1 and you'll be fucked up the ass by raiders, anyway.
MA R'lyeh is also fun in that you have a defensive advantage and mindblasters, plus astral if you're into that.
Can't recommend the others.
mapmakingishard
hey admin 87 doesn't connect to 114 but it does connect to 97. there is a province between 87 and 97
Anonymous
>>120563145 I'm guessing that EA Agartha is significantly less good with no caves correct?
Anonymous
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>>120565667 Yeah, most of your best stuff then becomes de facto cap-only.
Anonymous
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>>120565667 One of your biggest strengths is that you see in the dark and other things mostly don't. And cave provinces connecting all over the place helps mitigate your slowness. Other than that, it's not a huge deal, but restricts your ability to spam olms, since they're only cap and caves. You have enough other stuff that it doesn't hobble you though, just tones down a lot of your most distinctive options.
Anonymous
Remember kids, pay for 1 PD or pay the price, you never know when your commanders will be bushwhacked by assassins
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>>120562834 I'm a big fan of Vanarus.
Good mages. Lots of diversity. Elf thugs. good sacreds (though MM1 makes them less appealing).
I'll give my advice on them later.
After that, LA atlantis, MA R'lyeh. For the best watery nations available.
LuxInvicta Doombats
So Marverni just went AI.
Anonymous
That's the lamest excuse I've ever seen.Get well
BULLSHIT NEWS
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Everybody is at war with everybody edition:
Morake is fighting Wuulholt and Oclwick. Mostly seems to be a raiding war right now.
Fhedinnah is also fighting Ocliwick
>>120567449 Bangaoor is simultaneously fighting Hethdah, who crushed a big Bangaoor army, and Raegan, who invaded from the north and has already eaten Panvaz. This is not a raiding war.
Talburg, Seztissith, Djesse, and Men seem to be pretty much at war with eachother, though it's hard to tell. Talburg, Seztissith, and Djesse have all fought pitched battles with eachother in the past few turns, but they seem to take turns. Men is pretty much irrelevant.
TheNoobening
Miltcan, you ok? looks like bats are fucking you up
Anonymous
Tornavle Eunuchs
oh shit I actually won that particular fight! Was not expecting that.
Noobening Mictlan
>>120570429 I haven't been okay since turn 2.
But more specifically, bats are at my forts and I'm not going to be able to hold them off.
Anonymous
>>120577021 can you bloodsac out of besieged forts or are you actually just gone?
Anonymous
>>120577021 y-you've got a good bless r-right?
Noobening Mictlan
>>120577747 what?
I can bloodsac. That's not the problem.
The problem is he's going to swarm me to death
>>120577862 N9B9.
Which isn't enough when your outnumber as much as I am.
Anonymous
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>>120578047 I might be able to send some item help in, like, 4 turns.
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So Vanarus.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120580936 >no O3Misfortune1 meme i hate bad omen too anon, but it's supposedly a good optimization Anonymous
>>120581251 What would you get with that? +1 dom, +1 prod (not really necessary for expansion), or +1 magic? Given how expensive Vanarus's mages are, higher magic seems like it matters relatively little.
Anonymous
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>>120582312 Yeah, I mistook which pretender design you were responding to. O3Mis1 makes sense
Anonymous
Is there a magic site which enables graphs? how is it called?
Anonymous
>>120582669 There's a site which enables magic graphs, but not the other ones. I don't remember the name. There might be other sites that selectively enable some graphs only, but I can't confirm it.
When we find out, it should be on the wiki page for graphs.
Anonymous
Anonymous
2Scrubs1Tub ULM
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Agartha, Machaka you guys buying lanterns and quills? Got some for sale if you do.
Anonymous
>those guys in stalewarriors who didn't send their turns
Anonymous
What the fuck can I do with Atlantis' rec-any mages? Going up against Urdhiem btw
Anonymous
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>>120587161 Don't blame me, stalewarriors turns always come when I'm asleep.
2scrubs1tub xibalba
is machaka here? i want some words with you.
Anonymous
>First 10 turns >Starnigger summons Vastness
Anonymous
>>120587429 >First 3 turns >Skeletons get Etimmu Thanks Mr.Skeletal
Anonymous
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>>120587735 >Turn 5 >Get this Anonymous
Standing on the edge of page ten.
Anonymous
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>>120587735 NoStalers is fun.
Anonymous
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>>120587428 I can talk later today
Anonymous
Dawn of Dominions ended. Helheim won because lizards didn't protect their thrones and because Helheim lied to Oceania and got him to give him 20 vine shields.
Anonymous
>>120596476 Except all those vine shields along with half my Jarlar were lost in one catastrophic battle on Maverni's throne.
Would have won anyways m8
Anonymous
Um
Anonymous
>>120596969 You pussied out against my boars, mate. If the weak C'tis had held out for another turn or two I would've had three full armies of boars and mages coming for you.
Anonymous
>>120596997 Ayy lmao he quit
Xibalba wanna team up against Caelum and win or shall we just give up and call it here?
I can cast burden of time for fun if you'd like
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120597638 lol strategy is about exploiting windows of opportunity, not blindly wasting resources.
Although if you had continued to press towards my thrones you might have stopped me.
Fish
>>120602825 Queen jellyfish could have teleported onto your throne and spanked your bottom! Be glad she didn't, my child.
Anonymous
VanillaDoD Arco
I wish I had cloud trapezed all my Oreiads onto that thrones too, but I thought the lizards would not fail so badly.
Anonymous
>>120603776 Would have been interesting to see the ensuing battle
Anonymous
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>>120604287 Indeed. Unfortunately my god was not on a lab, so I couldn't attack with her as well, which is why I decided to wait a turn. Live by the turn, die by the turn.
Anonymous
Tornvale Dedburds
>>120575570 what one? the one where I didn't have any troops?
Also, we need to dispell the arcane nexus. I know Pythium has said he would, but he's also proven himself to be a liar, so anyone else have a high Astral mage we can funnel our all our pearls (and I mean all of them) into?
Anonymous
>>120607273 I'm pretty sure Sceleria wanted to do it.
Vanilla Green Inferno
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>>120603776 and nothing I did all game had any effect, despite having some interesting battle and war I was swinging my way.
Maybe having a level 3 throne in a game that small was a bad idea. Or the victory condition should have been higher
Mapmaker
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>>120563852 Oh god, you're right, why
Anonymous
Hey /domg/ let's play a game:
Anonymous
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>>120610821 BTW every gem counts as 3.5 blood slaves.
Anonymous
>>120597923 Caelum's going to annihilate me, but I'm down to try.
>>120567963 Anonymous
>>120610821 Magoth the arch devil is S3F3. Theres also a S ice devil.
Hidden in sand, tartarian gate, spectral mages too work.
Anonymous
>>120611009 Also, sorry about putting the dream horror in your cap. Don't take it the wrong way - I put dream horrors in everyone's cap.
Anonymous
Always wanted to play MP game but i know that im total shit>FeelsBadMan
Anonymous
>>120611035 Okay you got to S3, you need S8 tho.
Anonymous
>>120611170 It's okay man, I'm shit too.
Anonymous
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>>120611202 Coin, cap, dimensional rod, tome of high power, robe of the magi. Pick four.
Anonymous
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>>120611170 Do it anyways faggot. You'll get ass blasted but it'll still be a blast
Anonymous
>>120611249 Im just gonna spectate game. How? by casting Eye of God n havin some Anon to protect me
Anonymous
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>>120611170 Everyone is shit.
Seriously, /domg/ is really bad on average.
Anonymous
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>>120611170 So is everyone else
Just don't act like a bitch if you do lose
Anonymous
>>120610821 Assuming every path everywhere for unlimited mix combos.
>get magoth from bind arch devil >give starshine starcap for f3 s4 >give crystal coin for f3 s5 >give skull of fire and flame helmet for f5 s5 >forge forbidden light and dimensional rod >bind Pazuzu with bind demon lord >give him boosters (winged helm, brazen vessel, blood thorn) >have him forge robe of magi >give Magoth dimensional rod+forbidden light+robe of magi and take off skull of fire f4 s9 >can forge all the rings + cast arcane nexus it won't last too long with the horror mark items though. Anonymous
>>120612001 As a note I probably forgot something but this is off the top of my head without the inspector I'm probably forgetting to include the rings of wizardry + sorcery somewhere.
Anonymous
>>120612001 You have no astral, how do you get the crystal coin? Also you should avoid getting your astral nexus dispelled because horrors ate your caster.
Anonymous
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>>120612204 spectral mages are how you get the crystal coin all you need is s1 e1 and boots + cap (from magoth) to forge that shit.
Anonymous
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>>120611539 Play Ryleh as a rainbow arch mage who can craft anything, cast Eyes of God, turtle up, go into Construction, become the merchant king brokering in items, information, rituals and assassinations.
Nostalersallowed Annoyed guy
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We are really going to wait a fucking week for the game? That's what I get for joining a high commitment game guys...
Mapmaker
Well, fixed the map, the game:
http://www.llamaserver.net/gameinfo.cgi?game=MapmakingIsHard has the fixed download link.
Thanks to whoever keeps mentioning it in the thread, and again thanks to the person who pointed out the mess.
Anonymous
>>120612001 Ah I see it now can't equip flame helmet and skullcap at same time this is where the ring of wizardry and robe of magi probably should be equipped. If you don't want the thing dispelled from horror attacks then use ether gate until you get an s4 then equip with coin,cap,rod,robe
Spectral mages can give you the paths to cast ether gate with boosters
Anonymous
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>>120612714 replace rod with ring I forgot it can't be removed.
Anonymous
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>>120612151 you don't have unlimited misc slots however.
crystal coin+1(misc), forbidden light+2(misc), dimensional rod(+1) hand, starshine starcap+1(head).
that's a + 5, Magoth being S3F3 means you just reach 8. but we used 2 artifacts and 1 unique summon.
another way to proceed without magoth would be starting from death summoning spectres ( or hidden in X) to get astral death mages. from there we summon ether lords which are ridicolously expensive but have a 25% chance of S4( or we empower one time one of them since they are guaranteed S3).
fromt here we do the same boosting upto 8 but with a ring of sorcery in place of forbidden light.
Anonymous
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>>120612714 >>120612001 Pazuzu can't wear hats, so you need to use the bag, but otherwise that about covers it. Holding the Rod makes you insane and marks you although not as fast.
Anonymous
>Next turn due: 15:37 GMT on Wednesday August 15th
Anonymous
>>120613083 >Next turn due: 13:28 GMT on Saturday November 7th we are a little better here.
Anonymous
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>>120613553 That's less than a month away, the 15th of August being a Wednssday means 2018 at the earliest.
Anonymous
Do items that give reinvigoration stack?
Anonymous
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>>120615537 Yes, if it's different items.
Anonymous
>>120612695 One in the same. And you're welcome. That whole area (south of 114) is a little messy tbh but it could just be me.
Anonymous
>>120610821 Assuming you want to keep Astral Nexus you need to avoid the Dimensional Rod and Forbidden Light.
Both Magoth and Ashmedai start at S3, so they're one level short even if you have hat + robe + 2misc. Empower to S4 is 60 astral gems, so that's cheaper than Ether Gate, let alone the cost to get a summoner.
Now, you probably need Pazuzu to get Robe of the Magi, so that might net you Ashmedai when fishing with Bind Demon Lord. So you cast that until you get Pazuzu, and then either switch to Bind Arch Devil or keep going, depending on how many you summoned allready (and if anyone else has them) You'd need to run some pretty complicated probability math to figure that out. Then he needs a Bag of Winds, a Brazen Vessel and a Blood Thorn. Cost: (X amount of blood slaves + 90 blood slaves + 70 Air gems)
Then, you need either Crystal Coin or Tome of High Power to reach S7 so you can craft a Ring of Sorcery. You can simply empower your S caster once and have him wear Robe of the Magi (or the air booster) or you can cast a lot of Summon Spectre until you have the E1S1D1 Spectre you need. I can't be bothered looking up how to calculate that, so that's: (X amount of death gems + 20 earth + 10 astral) to make the coin, or: ( 50 air gems + 10 astral gems) to make the Tome.
Then you have to actual do the math to see if it's better to make Tome + Coin instead of Tome OR Coin + Ring. I *think* summoning Pazuzu and Ashmedai, empowering Ashmedai in Astral and Air and making the Tome and Ring (plus Robe and Cap obviously) is the cheapest option.
Mapmaker
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>>120616740 The pass area is very messy, it didn't quite look as I imagined it to.
Anonymous
What stats do cold/dark/heat power actually effect? Strength, MR and Attack?
Anonymous
>>120607273 >>120607338 Sceleria, I want some confirmation on this.
If not I guess I just sent to pythium and hope for the best.
Anonymous
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>>120618782 Strength, Attack and Defense skill.
Anonymous
>>120616758 THIS guy got the mother fucking game! BTW you can already count like you have the way to make a robe, so I think that doing it with the archdevil is cheaper both research and gemwise
Anonymous
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>>120622062 Yeah, if you already have Robe or Robe-capability then getting the archdevil makes the most sense.
Tornvale Eunuchs
>>120607273 not a battle against you, a pitched battle against sceleria. I've never really seen the effects of most spells so I really don't know how effective most of them are and in what scenario.
Also I had surplus pearls and and a base S4 pretender, but I strongly suggest finding another candidate
Anonymous
>>120611132 You put a dream horror in my cap?
Kek it didn't even kill anything
D4 robust
Anonymous
>>120607273 >>120618837 >sending pearls to the largest nation in the game >that is also a heavy astral nation >and has already attacked several players Anonymous
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What was the interaction with Niefelheim's Skratti, shapechanging and items?
Anonymous
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Is EA Pelagia playable now? I always wanted to try some wish engine strategy, are they the best for this job?
tornvale sceleria
>>120622965 ~something to look forward to when i get home~
Probably going to be a harsh lesson about just having a shitton of mages and chaff, and me forgetting to actually script stuff
>>120622965 >>120623389 >>120618837 >>120607273 I guess I'll do it. Ill send out a message this turn, and try for it next. Better to give it to me since Im small enough for a coalition to fucking destroy me then the biggest player in the game, who might be able to run away with a shitton of pearls.
Anonymous
Worked on EA Neifel some. Shout out to the Anon who figured out what happened with every nation between ages for some fluff stuff. Am particularly looking for interactions between Skratti and Items, what the Icy Winds dominion effect literally means (tests show it is somewhat based off of dominion and what temperatures you actually took, but that's all), and basic uses for cross paths on the various Neifel mages.
Anonymous
>>120626302 ~Oops, forgot link~
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Niefelheim_%28Early_Ages%29 Also general call to work on the wiki:
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Dominions_4_Wiki You know something we don't know, and you should help us know it.
Tornvale Eunuchs
>>120624910 I scripted heaps of stuff because I didn't know what would actually work.
I had my alchemists casting maggots but obvs my pretender laying down earthquake is what actually did work. All my other fuckos were casting other shit to see what would actually work.
tornvale sceleria
>>120626868 Wasn't trying to imply that your victory was hollow at all, friend. Was merely lamenting my laziness in actually scripting spells. Little worried that all that happened was I got heaps of ethereal fatigued out thaumaturgs trying to cast twist fate or personal luck on themselves.
Tornvale Eunuchs
>>120627090 I know that. I'm surprised, and I feel like I've learnt that earthquake is great. I also thought it would kill my troops, but didn't really seem to. My imagination?
Anonymous
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>>120623032 Nah, it just chills in your province sapping income and making bad things happen to good people until it get patrolled out.
Anonymous
>>120627394 Depending on what battlefield wide buffs you cast, you could have made your own troops entirely immune to it (mass flight, army of x, fog warriors) or very resistant to it (mass protection on already armored units)
Anonymous
>>120627394 >>120628586 It's just 8 AP damage with a defense check, the median hit on units with 16 protection is around zero before buffs, and if they have some defense you can basically ignore it.
Anonymous
Having fun with assassins.
Eunuchs
>>120628586 >>120629354 cheers cunts, it's role is clearer now
Anonymous
>>120630982 >it's role Whelp, fuck fighting Sceleria, I'm invading you now.
tornvale sceleria
Eunuchs
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>>120631335 good luck, I'm behind three other guys invading me
but you don't feel spells have particular situations they excel at. If some decent protection knocks out its effectiveness, doesn't it seem to have a particular role in the kind of battles it's useful for?
Anonymous
There is a difference between "it's" and "its".
Eunuchs
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>>120631773 I type to fast to remove the classic dative case from 'its'. English only has two (common, modern) cases and they're burned into users brains.
Anonymous
>>120631773 a good 1/3 to 1/2 of /domg/ are people who speak English as a second language
Tornvale Deburds
>>120630982 also, just to warn you, it does nothing at all to fliers.
I'm going to eat you anyways, so I figured I'd help.
Sceleria I've sent my pearls to you with a note.
Also, as much as I don't trust pythium, he's right that we should keep forging and rituals to minimum.
Anonymous
>>120632138 I'm tired of this "it's my second language so I get to be shit at it" meme. Either learn a language proper or don't speak it at all.
Eunuchs
>>120632163 that came up in another game I was in, and it's (lol) semi intuitive so I inquired at the time before relying on it.
Here's a Q. Does it affect fliers...in caves?
>I'm going to eat you anyways famous last words before I usurp you're entire empire through well written angry letters. Where's the bureaucratic attack button again?
Eunuchs
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>>120632325 I'd go with the adverbial properly in that sentence
Natives in particular have a hard time with prescriptive views on language. I mean really, whose going to realistically avoid split infinitives? What the non natives get wrong are the intuitive things like mass/count noun usage.
Tornvale Deburds
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>>120632381 checked the inspector, and the cave version doesn't have the 'doesn't effect fliers' tag. So it does.
tornvale sceleria
>>120632381 1/4 of the units are hit by "cave in" attack, which can include fliers/floating/etc units.
>>120632163 Neat. I'll cast it next turn.
Anonymous
Is anyone cautiously interested in how Conquest of Elysium 4 turns out? For some reason I actually liked CoE3 despite all its flaws. Now that the combat system is going to be less boring, it could be fun.
Anonymous
>>120634501 Correct usage of the word "its". Kudos, anon.
Tornvale Deburds
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>>120633346 wait for an overcast.
You have to match or beat the amount he overcast by, so be sure you don't bounce.
Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120634501 >see steam trailer >"Even the deer want to kill you" Those cheeky fucks
TheNoobening
I've been wondering about that throne sitting on the southern continent with around 120-140 undead squatting on it. Has no one mustered up enough force to clear it out?
Anonymous
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does anyone know how much the survival abilities negate the need for supplies?
Anonymous
>>120636443 That's probably the throne of bones and what isn't shown is the 6 bloodhenge druids sitting there. It's not really worth taking at this point. Also, because everyone is fighting each other down there at the moment.
Anonymous
>>120637727 Is everyone fighting on the southern continent? It looks pretty quiet, honestly. It does explain why Berytos hasn't pushed on the northern continent.
Anonymous
>>120639246 Ulm and Berytos appear to be trying to gang up on Lanka.
Anonymous
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>>120639594 That explains why Lanka has been nagging for people to gang up on Ulm.
Anonymous
>>120626447 >>120626302 More work is always needed on the wiki, as it has HEAPS of content still to be added, but can you keep the information you put on the nation's page as objective as possible? As it is, it reads closer to someones personal guide than a nation overview. For example, the Niefel Giant portion, cut out all this "has a boatload of" "hits like a fucking truck" "Is pretty much immune" stuff; it's all fine and dandy if you're writing a guide that projects your personal experience and opinion, less so for what is meant to be an objective review of a nation's strictly statistical capabilities.
Anonymous
>>120643840 Objectively speaking, 66 HP is quite a bit more than most other nations' sacred units, and that high strength does mean that, statistically speaking, it hits like a truck.
As well, that high level of cold resistance does mean that something is pretty much immune to cold. statistically speaking, there just arent a lot of cold things that could cut through that level of cold resistance.
Anonymous
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>>120644229 Then use objective instead of figurative language.
Anonymous
>>120644229 Then say that there's very few things that can penetrate their cold resistance, saying that it's 'pretty much immune' doesn't communicate anything of value.
Skywrath Mage is technically capable of inflicting wounds nearly identical to those you would receive from getting raped by several tonnes of feces, but you don't see the DotA2 wiki saying he can inflicting fucking shit tonnes of deeps, do you?
Anonymous
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>>120568235 Your grammar is off. you mean
git gud Anonymous
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>>120623389 "Sorry goys it failed"
Anonymous
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>>120644838 brb editing wiki
Anonymous
>Someone shouts BLITZ >doesn't host
Anonymous
>>120643840 Does anyone mind if I just keep adding to the Therodos page? I'll try to include all the objective info I can but given there is no other rescources for Therodos online as far as I know...
Anonymous
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>>120644838 >>120643840 While we're on the subject of wiki-autism, please also put double square brackets (links) around jargon and technical terms. Even if the page doesn't exist yet, that adds it to the Wanted Pages list.
Anonymous
>>120646116 IMO distinct guides should be new pages that link to the nation page. Otherwise it gets confusing when several people have opinions. There are two or three guides for each of several ages of pangaea, for example.
Anonymous
>>120646116 If you're not sure if something is objectively true, don't add it. If there's something that's objectively accurate, then go for it. But what the Theroros page needs now isn't additions, it's editing - it should be getting tighter and more concise from this point, rather than bigger.
Anonymous
>>120646506 True, but, Thedoros, come on.
>>120646642 I guess, but I want to mention Bishop fish being very usefull due to the sacreds becoming piecemeal when blessed by blessings.
Anonymous
>>120644229 >statistically speaking, it hits like a truck. Statistically speaking things that hit like a truck in this game hit a lot of times per square and not necessary have massive strength. Nifel giants have a terrible damage output and "hit like a truck" should not be used towards them.
Anonymous
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>>120646771 Well that's a single-sentence addition, so go for it. But the overall trend should be reduction rather than addition.
Anonymous
>>120646116 Please do. Add on everywhere you can yo.
>>120644838 It communicates that they are pretty much immune to cold damage. If I was fighting niefelheim, and I had no concept of what they are except for that piece of advice, I would glean from that one bit of information that I should probably avoid spamming falling frost on them.
Regardless, thanks for the criticism and the advice.
>>120646506 Most nations don't seem to have any guides, and most of the ones that do, are hosted on desura, a site of suspect longevity. So I don't think there is any sort of issue regarding too many people posting up too many guides on the wiki.
Anonymous
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>>120646506 Having a 'guides' category for each nation would be ideal, yeah. You can basically take the whole Therodos wiki page and call it a guide, and then pry out whatever objective truth it contains to be the main wiki page for the nation.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120647070 Steal the Desura guides, attribute the original author. I'm 100% serious, all of the worthwhile guides should be stolen for the wiki if only to provide one example for how each nation can be plaid.
Anonymous
>>120646885 I don't think you know how trucks work.
>>120647070 >I don't think there is any sort of issue regarding too many people posting up too many guides on the wiki. The issue is that it's not for that. Posting guides as nation pages is misleading and doesn't serve the purpose of the wiki, which is as a reference and aid to players with a less than totally thorough knowledge.
Anonymous
The Japanese Dom4 wiki actually has great documentation on several spells with commentary on their use
>>120647615 Agreed for the main page, but there absolutely should be a 'guides' section and the various guides for each nation should be linked from there (preferably as pages on the wiki for when Desura dies)
Anonymous
>>120647717 >there absolutely should be a 'guides' section Well yes, of course. Although I'm not sure it's best to put that on the wiki itself, it might be more organizationally effective to link google docs from the wiki. Wiki pages enter the searchable database and clog things up, when they aren't necessarily supposed to work that way.
Anonymous
>>120647070 That's not the point. Guides are a claim of how a nation should be played, rather than a description of the nation. When I look at a nation, I should know it has X paths with X of them recruitable out of cap with X crosspaths, and it has N sacreds.
How somebody thinks I should use those sacreds - even if that happens to be a good idea - should be in a separate section.
Anonymous
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>>120648101 We already have dead links on the wiki and in the pastebin. I'd much rather have people searching for a nation find links to guides in addition to the main page for that nation (which will be on top anyways) than have the 'guides' section at the bottom point to things that just don't exist anymore.
Anonymous
>>120648161 The inspector exists, and only misses off some minor details, why just make a rehash of it?
Anonymous
>>120647474 Plaid doesn't fit the aesthetics of most nations
Anonymous
>>120648642 Inspector doesn't describe spell effects or status conditions.
>>120648819 Just because every nation CAN be plaid doesn't mean they SHOULD be. It's important to show that it's possible.
Anonymous
>>120648980 Come on, can you imagine Abysians in plaid? Atrocious.
Anonymous
>>120648980 >>120648819 I'm... not sure if you're going along with the joke or if you're actually illiterate, and it's making me uncomfortable.
Anonymous
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>>120649281 I'll be heading home in an hour and will upload some plaid units and flags.
Anonymous
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>tfw you're about to start your first war
Anonymous
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>>120649213 Abyssia's generally considered bad, but that doesn't mean that they can't be plaid. While I haven't won a game with them, I'll show you how they can be plaid in a little bit.
Anonymous
What should the strategy overview for nations on the wiki look like? I feel like writing a few general tips for some nations.
Anonymous
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>>120630175 Burd worst girl
Anonymous
>>120651193 A link to different guides, with a one or two line description underneath the link summarizing the guide.
Anonymous
>>120652484 What if there aren't any guides for the nation in question?
Anonymous
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>>120653028 You can make one or leave a brief summary placeholder until someone does.
Anonymous
>>120653028 Strategic overview basically just means 'how should this nation be played' which is exactly the question that guides answer
Anonymous
Anonymous
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Like the shitposters once said
Anonymous
Anonymous
There is absolutely no way to get up-to date pirate version ?
TheNoobening Vanheim
Lanka, I sent you 720 gold for those gems
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120662352 It's possible, but those who have the game choose to not do it.
Anonymous
>>120662352 can't you just buy the game, anon?
Anonymous
>>120662619 Are you saying that nobody bothered to remove protection from versions after 4.10 ?
>>120663381 I'm only playing dom3 single and wanted to check out dom4.
Anonymous
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>>120568235 >talked shit about thugs >gets rekt by one kek
Anonymous
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>>120664271 the single player is hilariously one dimensional, just upgrade, support the creators.
Anonymous
Are there any MA games recruiting at the moment?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120665031 Yep, JacinthPowder, 15/16 players, worthy heroes. Should be a good game
>http://techsmartly.net/freePS3.php Anonymous
>>120666879 >freePS3 Guess I'll make my own then or join the late age one since that EA map doesn't allow underwater nations.
Anonymous
>>120667606 >wanting to play underwater nations Anonymous
>>120667834 >not wanting to literally whip yourself mentally trying to win as shibboleths I wanted to try Therodos Anonymous
Anonymous
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>>120653378 No, it means "what options are available to you".
Anonymous
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>>120666268 joining late as Bogorus.
Vanarus NoStalersAllowed
>>120668009 Theredos is EA only though.
So many soopy skellingtons on my border, wonder why?
Anonymous
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>>120668009 I ended up subbing as Therodos in a game, and it's not too bad. Just difficult to keep income high. It certainly is nice not having anyone barking at my forts every five minutes - at least until people start producing waterbreathing items.
Anonymous
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>>120668539 Welp guess I'll delete the game I just figured out how to make and use the knowledge to host later.
>>120669680 Therodos was my EA choice for MA I'd rather be another kind of shitter.
Vanarus NoStalersAllowed
>>120669680 pic related
Why so many skellingtons? Who wins in a fight, ~300 skellies or a single Vanarussian priest?
Castledoc Vanarus
>ermor bless >E4A4S4D7
Anonymous
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>>120670253 depends on the PD amount and if they brought mages.
Anonymous
>>120670296 That's a semi reasonable blessing if he can pump a few shrouds out for his blaster casters.
Anonymous
>>120653028 You can make one. Or just write in at least something. Despite what the one or two steamshitters say, some info on the wiki is better than no info on the wiki.
The fact that the wiki is barebones and that nobody wants to actually write anything for it means you can typically take with a grain of salt what the various "objectivists" have to say on the matter.
Anonymous
>>120671368 The problem with writing the wiki is the fluid nature of the game, and the number of shitters badly written articles would create.
MedievalTimes Skellies
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So, why did Tien Chi leave the game?
Anonymous
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>>120648642 Why add any info in the inspector the wiki at all with that attitude?
Anonymous
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>>120653378 No, it means a brief listing of strengths and weaknesses: e.g., lots of heavy infantry, lots of archers with air and fire access; low mr.
A guide actually discusses how to implement these strengths and patch the weaknesses.
Anonymous
>>120666268 >>120668539 WHOO just game back from a nice break! Time to sign up for three games. Get ready for some fun people because I'm the kind of guy who LOUDLY talks on his cellphone in movie theaters, eats food with my mouth open, and I touch your things with cheeto dust on my fingers especially books!
Anonymous
>>120673406 so you're joining as ermor r'lyeh and niefelheim?
Anonymous
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>>120673491 I'll never tell!
Anonymous
>>120673406 fuk off hotdog
Anonymous
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Is the mod inspector not showing all of the units to anyone else right now?
A Terrible Person
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>>120673912 SAY THAT'S A GOOD IDEA NAMEFAGGIN' FER NO REASON!
just kidding I did join the games though Anonymous
>>120671794 even reading a shitter's advice is good enough for people just getting the game.
Anonymous
>>120677349 >Even a blind mans advice is good enough for people learning to drive Technically it's better than nothing, but for the sake of yourself and for the people around you, it's best to remove the flawed source before it causes problems.
Say, someone reads the wiki and takes it as ironclad objective proof because they liked how it was written
read: badly and now they refuse to listen to the advice of people who actually know what they're doing.
Anonymous
>>120678070 >people who actually know what they're doing Like who?
/domg/ is bad at this game. B-A-D.
Anonymous
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>>120678269 Point to where I implied otherwise.
Anonymous
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>>120678269 Yeah, but mostly not as bad as the guy writing the wiki.
Anonymous
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>>120667834 Torgen please go
You weren't even good in CBM at research 0
Anonymous
>>120666268 as for Fashionable Late, 11 is above the recommended range of number of players for that map.
Requesting that we do not make it that cramped.
F&G Admin
Anonymous
>>120683000 the recommended is 10, though I did notice it changed across map editions. If yall feel that way I can host it once 10 have joined. 1 extra might add just a little excietment to the early game.
Anonymous
>>120683859 I tried a test at 10, and it's really close together. At 11 you might have overlapping cap rings.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120683468 If I host an MA game, I will create a custom territory with no borders designated as Ermor's start location, and force apply a turn 1 event that flips its dominion
Anonymous
>>120684862 Where did the bad skeleton touch you little boy?
seriously though I don't know why you would do something like that when you could just hire 4 indie priests and rape their 1000 strong skeleton army Anonymous
>>120684862 >event doesn't work >ermor continues to play the game biding his time gaining death gems >casts utterdark and BoT same turn >laughs Anonymous
> Turn 14 > Turn 3 get +35 unrest events for my two provinces > Lost my expansion force to barbarians > My only lab was destroyed turn 8, didn't have money to rebuild it for 2 turns > Lost a fort that had 1 month of building left to a barbarian invasion
Anonymous
>>120683468 is it just me or does Eriu just feel so much worse than TNN.
I know, different age and all that, but I look at the two and it feels like a strict downgrade.
Anonymous
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>>120685003 I honestly don't hate Ermor, I just hate how they're in every game.
Anonymous
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>>120685021 That could actually be fun. Ermor wouldn't be a faction, just a force of nature that makes the world suck if it drags on too long
Anonymous
>>120685119 It is just straight worse. That isn't even a 'feel' thing, you can just look at their units.
Anonymous
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>>120685351 I mean you get access to heavy infantry with MM2, but that's it. And you lose so much.
Every other nation that loses that much gets something to replace it, or change around.
Like MA Xibalba is thought to be worse than EA, but they have a bunch of stuff that EA doesn't have.
Anonymous
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>>120685062 at turn 14 i had serious infastructure problems as Luck3 and sitesearching gifted me 4 laboratories and i didn't have enough money to fort all of them.
Anonymous
>>120670296 >>120670554 is it even worth to spend 5 gems per caster to give them small buffs? i would say fuck A4, fuck S4 and go for a slightly bigger bless with D9.
Anonymous
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>>120685351 Having been inspired by other contributions, started working on EA Oceania, since it got changed up since the update. Have been trying to be little bit objective here. Let me know what needs to be reworked.
Also, how exactly do poison barbs work?
Anonymous
Having been inspired by other contributions, started working on EA Oceania, since it got changed up since the update. Have been trying to be little bit objective here. Let me know what needs to be reworked.
Also, how exactly do poison barbs work?
http://dom4.wikia.com/wiki/Oceania_(Early_Ages) Anonymous
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>>120685879 It's probably a dormant lich so that he can teleport or trapeze RoS with his immortality. I would have taken S5, though, so that he can get rings to make more tart factories. D7 is also kinda weird, since D6 with ring, skullface, and staff still gets you D9. I guess he can get D9 without the ring, but by the time you're ready to cast Utterdark, you would have easily been able to make a Ring of Sorcery which can then be used to get a D4 mage into Tartarian range when you're finished with your spell.
Anyways, it's not worth making shrouds for blasters with that bless.
Anonymous
>>120686009 is it ok if i make a mini-strategy guide and some tips for Pangea?
i've been palying it and even if i am not an expert i feel i can introduce the main powers of the nation pretty well.
Anonymous
>>120686009 >Let me know what needs to be reworked. A couple of things in the first paragraph have [[ ]] around them. I'm assuming that's supposed to be links, but I think you got the syntax wrong.
>Also, how exactly do poison barbs work? I don't think anyone has ever tested it.
Anonymous
>>120689145 Hell yes, please do!
If you're just trying to fill in troop descriptions and give basic objective advice, feel free to just edit the wiki page. Otherwise, for a guide, try to build another page, and just link it to whatever age of pangaea you're trying to do.
>>120689297 Yea, still trying to get the hang of all the weird little pieces of coding.
Also, fucking awesome. Got a good idea on how to test it? My assumption is that it's a weak poison that damages on length 0 melee weapons.
Anonymous
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>>120689613 >Got a good idea on how to test it? Mod a commander for one nation to use a length 0 weapon, and mod another commander to have 40 protection, 999hp, no weapons, and poison barbs.
Put them in a battle against each other, see what happens.
For completeness, I'd also test with weapons of other lengths, and see if damage from poison barbs is reduced by protection. You could also try a unit with multiple length 0 weapons to see if it triggers per combat round or per attack.
Anonymous
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>>120664271 Nobody has ever bothered to remove protection. The "Pirate copy" is a game folder with a legit license that someone's paid for and generously uploaded.
NoStalersAllowed Ermor
>>120670253 Well, I was building a fort there, and I don't trust you anymore you backstabbing asshole. I had known from trusted and far away sources that you are trying to ally against me and fuck my ass the whole game while doing diplomacy with me.
I am not even spreading my lovely dominion in your land, I never attacked you and I don't want to.
But you keep spreading lies, and that's kinda annoying.
We just want PEACE LOVE AND SKELLINGTONS, and your don't look peaceful.
Are you sure you can take A DEFINITE AMOUNT OF SKELLINGTONS with even 15 priests and a hundred man army + I guess something between 30 and 60 stealthy elves?
Don't make me start a Elf removal campaign. Also the game will stall until 7 November so we'll have to wait
Anonymous
New EA Pelagia tactics and pretender please.
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120692739 >Also the game will stall until 7 November so we'll have to wait wat
Anonymous
Why is /domg/ so dead at these hours?
Anonymous
>>120700261 >Why is domg so dead while everyone is at work Anonymous
>>120700749 But time zones.
Anonymous
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>>120701058 >A western-made game is discussed on a western forum while western people are not able to talk about it ???????
Anonymous
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>>120697672 read the steam thread, mictlan guy fucked up something and needs a 9 day extension. people voted yes...
Anonymous
>>120693057 Nobody likes pelagia i guess...
Anonymous
>>120701256 Get D9 rush and cast BoT, sit uw until everyone goes AI, claim victory.
Anonymous
>>120701529 That's just about as viable as you can get with EA underwater.
Anonymous
NoStallers Sceleria
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>>120692739 >>120670253 God damn it neighbours, have you ever heard of live and let unlive?
Anonymous
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and the posts are all cold now.
Anonymous
>>120518236 GEOMANCERS
PIERCE THE SKY WITH YOUR ROCKS
obviously mix of alchemists (with master matrixes) and celestial master (also.. with matrixes, to save the turn cost of casting communion master) out of the cap, I mean fuck
Sometimes ministers of magic or the mini alchemists if you need the random for something
mostly you just blot out the sun with your rocks, while guitar solos, and your pink shieldmans hope they live long enough for the rocks to Do Work.
Sometimes vs bats and stuff you put up a storm first, then you make rocks go. Also Wind Guide is nice to make rocks actually hit stuff.
>>120520829 Obviously s9a9d9e9.
>>120531836 Never seen anyone using it do well. Never done well when i've used it. Overall I think it's over-rated because maerlande used it in one of his videos.
Rarely is it worth what you pay, unlike just straight w9 or b9, which can straight up win fights, or n9 as a dual-use for both thugs and units.
>>120540861 If trading mages for a won war isn't your bag, you are not building enough forts. And likely crippled your scales in your nation design. Relying on people to be scrubs who can't even dent you is a terrible plan in the long run. Acceptable losses is a much better plan.
>>120543039 Nationgen game? I'll sub in for a hoburger.
Anonymous
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>>120562834 Ea VLM is fun as fuck to play. Your nation has the magic of 'sweet fuck all', so you're running around with raiding bands and trinkets while other people are chucking around globals and shit. Yet, if you live, you'll summon your way to relevancy half the time anyway. But that period where you're literally sending guys with axes against actual evo spam is very real and very fun.
LA Atlantis are a powerhouse nation that are truly terrifying if you forget anything about 'slow and steady' and embrace the murder. Showing up on someone's doorstep with a bunch of angercocks and sacred glaive motherfuckers in like, year 1, is great. Later you do water and death stuff, which is fun, and thugs and stuff, but killing people with frogmen is the appeal of the nation.
EA Agartha is fun purely because you are riding the rainbow, and the rainbow is made of elementals. You pour elementals onto people and your entire job is to cast earthquake and kill people with elementals. Most of your wizards will be spent searching for gems to make elementals, and making elementals, and leading elementals. You shoot mind blasts from behind elementals while giggling. The trampling is real.
Anonymous
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>>120709541 >Obviously s9a9d9e9. >A9 cuck.
Anonymous
>>120587265 The tungaliks? With the right bless, and a few buffs, they thug pretty okay. They can spam mini water elementals. They can skelespam shittily, but it's enough to carry a fort defense sometimes. They can, iirc, shadowblast.
Skull staff can help make them relephant. Same with water bracelet. Mostly you use them to lead raiding packs of your sacreds, and to research and sitesearch.
Urdheim shouldn't a problem, glaives hard counter jotuns, and werewolves (stun damage), unless you haven't been building assartut, in which case, hah. Your angercocks are your major combat mage, you need to have every angercock in the field at all times, use the little guys for everything else. You should also be using the UW mages as battlemages. Heavy ice armour hard counters goblinswarms, there really is little Urd can do against atlantis.
TheNoobening Lanka
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>>120662452 Sent for reals this time ;)
2Scrubs1Tub ULM
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So guys anything new? Two faggot trees ded this turn, rejoice!
Anonymous
>>120710197 I'm not sure he's talking about LA Atlantis, because IIRC Urdhiem is a modnation for MA. That is solid advice for LA though. Except the Shadowblast thing, they can't do that. Also, Frighten and Ghost Grip are both highly underrated, and within the capabilites of the Tungalik.
Anonymous
>>120714386 Utgard is 'the Well of Urd' in it's name, so I assumed he meant ye old vaetti and jotunland.
MA Atlantis is awful and I have no advice for it other than copious crying, so.
Ghost grip is a good thug counter but bone glaives counter thugs too. Frighten has always seemed to be a waste of a mage to me. Even Terror and Panic are tricky to actually make work properly.
Anonymous
>stalewarriors almost turn 20 >4 AI already
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120716298 Well, three memers who went AI/started stalling at/before turn 3, and Abysia who fucked up heavily.
Anonymous
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>>120716642 >implying we aren't all memer don't meme yourself out, fam
Anonymous
>>120710197 you forgot Frozen Heart spam.
Anonymous
>>120714776 MA Atlantis post buff is much less awful. It's really reliant on coasts for lab farms, but if it can get them its research isn't half bad. With less shitty research, you get to actually make use of your dope StR mages for killing.
Anonymous
Game: Stalewarriors
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120720203 Helheim is going to stale, fam.
Anonymous
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>>120721760 oh, right now i remember it. That guy who won't have internet for 3 weeks or so
Anonymous
>>120720203 What a bunch of plebian assholes.
>>120721760 Admin can forcehost.
Pan
>>120720203 I've been busy
Gotta earn meme dollars somehow innit
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120725498 Admin shalt force host unless I'm indisposed.
Anonymous
>>120725646 can you share your memedollars with me? :3c
Anonymous
>>120727389 imo forcehost right now.
mictlan staled one turn, so he will probably stale again (what a scrub)
Anonymous
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>>120728307 imo it's only a three hour difference, so who cares?
Anonymous
>>120728174 That depends
Do you like sucking dick and licking feet?
If so then maybe
Anonymous
>>120728407 >Do you like sucking dick and licking feet? you are literally describing me
hand me those memedollars
and that thin memepenis <3 Anonymous
>>120718309 That was intentional. Fuck that spell. It's so niche. Numbness or Desiccate are a lot better.
>>120718932 That's good to know.
Stalewarriors
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>tfw you find something that's such a big deal that you've actually heard of it simply due to /tg/, despite not playing in Greyhawk or reading the books ever
Anonymous
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>>120728746 >Numbness or Desiccate are a lot better. well they both require W2, so I don't know why you are using them in comparison when talking about a caster with only W1.
water braclets might be cheap, but they aren't free.
Anonymous
As MA T'ien Ch'i, what research should I be focussing on?
Anonymous
Anonymous
>>120732636 #dontforcehost
Anonymous
>>120733335 but anon... i need my memes :(
Anonymous
>>120734208 meme up one of the new games then
#newmemes
Anonymous
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>>120734358 sounds like a good idea.
how do i learn to play Nazca? that innate spellcaster (2) seems really fun
2Scrubs1Tub Tien Chi
Damn it, Ulm, I'm trying to avenge the Stab in the Back. Go back to whining about bats.
Anonymous
Is there an Astral-oriented nation that isn't R'lyeh and Arco? i dont like those two
Anonymous
>>120734669 T'ien Ch'i, Monkeyland
Anonymous
>>120734770 interesting.
I never tried china, but i thought there were rainbow-magic oriented or something like that. Are they astral heavy?
Anonymous
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>>120734669 EA Ermor
Sceleria
monkeys
Pelagia
Marverni
Sauro to an extent
Pythium
Mictlan to an extent
and around half of LA
Anonymous
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>>120731412 Alteration and Conjurgation for buffs and to summon fluffy tails
Anonymous
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>>120734969 MA China is about spamming geomancers and crystal matrices
Anonymous
Anonymous
2SCRUBS1TUB Ulm
>>120734573 Was one RoS though. Doesn't matter anyway as you had scripted mass protection but hey, had to try.
That guy is coming back tho and he has friends. Should have sticked to attacking bats.
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120728307 >>120732636 Not going to forcehost it on Mitclan yet.
Anonymous
>>120740080 Give it another hour, and then do.
2Scrubs1Tub Tien Chi
>>120739681 Why would I attack the bats? They haven't done anything to me - you're the one that cast Wild Hunt which targets literally all of my mages, and Sauro's the one that tried to backstab me while I was having trouble with Agartha.
I mean, I guess they did cast Utterdark but that kind of helps me against Sauro more than anything, seeing as I was relying on sacreds and summons anyways.
>Was one RoS though Oh, just checked again and you're right. Could've sworn it was two for some reason.
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120740186 It hosts automatically in an hour M8.
Anonymous
>>120740557 What you have just encountered is known in some circles as a "joke". Stalewarriors Admin
2SCRUBS1TUB Ulm
>>120740514 Well if youre helping bats youre my enemy so...
2Scrubs1Tub Tien Chi
>>120741957 Never said I was helping them. Just don't see any reason to start fighting.
2SCRUBS1TUB Ulm
>>120742190 You are attacking someone who was invading bats how is that not helping them?
Anonymous
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>>120740640 i'm not the admin, but your joke is pretty autistic and not funny at all
2Scrubs1Tub Tien Chi
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>>120742480 Because I ain't doing it to help them, I just want to fight with Sauro. I don't give a damn either way about your little spat with Xibalba.
Anonymous
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>>120516135 >15 points left over Better try harder scrub.
Anonymous
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>>120742480 >You are attacking Sauro started that war
Anonymous
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>>120526290 Gee spookius skeletus, how come your god lets you have three blesses?
Anonymous
can i do something fun with independent illusionists with A2 in a nation with no native air magic?
Anonymous
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>>120744874 Sitesearch and craft feathers
Anonymous
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>>120744874 you can sitesearch for A2.
From that point you only need a single empower/crosspath booster for viable thunderstrike force.
Also flying boots and all.
Anonymous
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Sure enough, Mictlan staled.
Stalewarriors Agartha
Pan: How do you feel about Krestible?
Anonymous
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>>120746392 It belongs to me, naturally. We made a deal early on that you would stay below ground, and I would stay above ground. Your "RIGHT NEXT TO MUH CAPITAL" stuff is completely ridiculous, seeing as you have a cave literally one province away from my capital, and I don't bitch, moan and whine about wanting that either.
Anonymous
>>120742480 Sauro invaded TC. You're literally attacking TC for defending himself instead of suiciding into bats at this point.
Anonymous
>>120742480 I'm not even in that game and, just from what's posted in thread, it's obvious that you're being retarded. Improve your life m8
Stale
So Mictlan is stalling, right?
Anonymous
>>120748010 Everyone is fair game even if they aren't stalling, my man.
Anonymous
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>>120748074 That kind of attitude is why people don't like you, Vanheim
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120748010 Everyone is fair game to attack asside form Mr Vacationy, but you are allowed to sit giant stacks on his borders for when he returns.
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120749887 Addendum, the stacks of troops do not have to be made of giants, smaller troops are acceptable to use.
Anonymous
>>120750469 No fuck you only giants are allowed.
2SCRUBS1TUB Ulm
>>120746862 So? Anyone touching Sauro is picking as fight with me, thats what alliances are for.
>>120747239 Yeah fuck off, Ill keep protecting my allies thank you.
Stalewarriors Admin
>>120750898 Fuck you I expect YOU to provide a screenshot of you putting AT LEAST 30 giants on his border.
Anonymous
>>120750898 >>120749887 Fuck both of you, I'm sneaking water bottle scouts into all of his provinces.
Stalewarriors Admin
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>>120751565 Does anyone know where he is? Everyone sends one geared scout to his cap to welcome him back.
Anonymous
>>120751374 >>120751565 Literally WHO IS HE EVEN
Stalewarriors Admin
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>>120751819 Why Anon, HE IS YOU Anonymous
>>120751819 Such lust for provinces.
Anonymous
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>>120752180 M8 I have literally all the expansion I'll fukkin rek u with my cock
Anonymous
Hey, how do I get an updated list of whose done their turn or not in a game?
Anonymous
TornVale R'lyeh
Man, those golems sure are scary.
Anonymous
>>120756551 >29 mages >0 troops Nigga no.
No nigga.
Troops nigga even shitty militia niggas
TornVale R'lyeh
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>>120758342 He teleported it onto a fort in the middle of my territory. Didn't have a chance to recruit any. Didn't need 'em either.
That said, all of my other forts already have groups of blockers ready.
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>>120751259 >people aren't allowed to defend themselves against my allies. by doing so, they brought my attacks on themselves There's a reason nobody else is willing to support you.
