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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:16:55 No.2764340 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766624 >>2766739 >>2767914

I've been doing a simultaneous run of Half-life and Half-life source and I would like to have a thread dedicated to the early half-liives and possibly sven-coop.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:02:16 No.2765514 Report Delete

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>tfw learning Gabe Newell himself worked on the Doom95 Windows sourceport
I shit you not, I actually liked that one when I was younger

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:03:48 No.2765515 Report Delete

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>>2765513
The Matrix dojo melee and lobby firefights were done infinitely better in The Specialists than any Matrix licensed videogame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:07:59 No.2765519 Report Delete

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>>2765515
Is that Samuel L. Glover?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:54:48 No.2765586 Report Delete

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>>2765474
I got the sense that Akira influenced HL2 a lot as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:59:20 No.2765594 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765620 >>2765686

Decay is pretty interesting, but impossible if you don't have 2 people.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:00:04 No.2765595 Report Delete

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>>2764356
FRUA and Neverwinter Nights lived on this as well.

Maybe companies understand it, but can't give up the dream of monopolizing content for their platform.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:04:03 No.2765608 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766590

>>2765586
>Akira influenced HL2
No it doesent. Movie like: thx 1138, 1984 and war of the worlds did that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:17:50 No.2765620 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765650 >>2765686

>>2765594
There's a mod where you can play as 1 player and swap between characters. There's a few parts where you have to be careful with your other character, especially the final battle, but I managed to beat it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:20:58 No.2765626 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765651

So have you played every official HL1 game?
>Half-life
>Opposing Force
>Blue Shift
>Decay
>Uplink

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:37:04 No.2765650 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765686

>>2765620
I've tried to do it solo, but I got stuck on the part with the two pipes and the flying enemies. You have to be damn good to beat it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:37:37 No.2765651 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765741

>>2765626

I bought the first three on CD rom.

It's a shame no one plays Opposing Force death match anymore. It was my favorite Half Life multiplayer... used to play on a 33.6 dialup, with a 200 ping. I used to fucking own.

Puffman, I beat you.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:59:47 No.2765686 Report Delete

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>>2765594
>>2765620
>>2765650
http://decay.half-lifecreations.com/

Just play it with a buddy on PC, if you aren't already

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:00:50 No.2765687 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765692 >>2766610

> tfw you will never have that amazing feel of exploring Black Mesa for the first time
NEVER EVER ;-;

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:02:09 No.2765692 Report Delete

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>>2765687
meh

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:27:12 No.2765741 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766381

>>2765651
Damned shame. I agree.
>bunny hopping around with the sniper rifle
>no-scoping people all day long
>planting laser trip mines through all the tunnels in the rollercoaster park level
>sniping people from miles away on the xendance level

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:56:11 No.2765794 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765803

>>2764395
>>2764401
>>2764406
>>2765120
I would argue it's very short sighted of companies to think like this. What's more important to the long term success of a company: quarterly earnings or a rabid fanbase? If you play the long game, it has to be the latter. Let me ask you guys this, do you ever catch yourself thinking you can't wait until the next Sony game comes out? How about the next Valve, Blizzard, id game? If you strictly look at maximizing profits you get squishy shit like what Squenix pushes out now; safe rehashes that will undoubtedly earn money, but will be ultimately forgettable and wither the fanbase (I haven't played a FF since X).

Getting people to form a bond with a company and its games should never be overlooked.

I didn't argue this well, but I truly think it does nothing but help the company out by distributing tools needed to customize games.

>>2765168
No need to put any extra effort into releasing design tools. They come with no warranty at all, just the game itself. The community will figure shit out and write tutorials if none exist.

>>2765474
>*jizzes pants*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:01:15 No.2765803 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765824 >>2765863

>>2765794
I completely agree about your argument. I'd never considered that, but I do eagerly await the release of those companies' titles (maybe less so Blizzard these days...)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:09:06 No.2765824 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765846 >>2765863

>>2765803
I despise blizzard. The games they make are a disease. Don't get me wrong. I was a rabid WoW gamer up until about 2008. I was tanking in the top raiding guilds always clearing content first. I forget the specific chat query but I checked my total time played one day. It came out to 328 days (granted most of that was chatting with guild members at work. I lived logged in). After seeing that number I apologized to the guild, left, and never looked back. I miss some of the online friends I had. We played many other games together but they all inevitably dropped me for my choice. After a few solid months of depression I finally became a person again. I started to exercise and focus on real life friends and family. I'll never go back or play another blizzard title. I'm certain this isn't true for everyone. I feel my WoW addiction tried to steal my life and soul.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:22:49 No.2765846 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765867

>>2765824
I played WoW for 9 months straight when it first came out, loved it, but then quit. Glad I did, but I do miss it from time to time.

I liked Starcraft / Diablo 1/2 a ton as well. I couldn't get into SC2 or D3.

The games changed but so did I.

I can't blame Blizzard for changing as a company, I'm not the same 11 year old I was then, so why should they be the same company they were then also? Things mature, and, sadly, not always in ways that turn out for the best.

It's best to enjoy things as they are, when they are, and while they are, because you never know when you'll look back and realize how much and how fast things are changing and evolving.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:31:27 No.2765863 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766237

>>2765803
>>2765824
My examples are a little behind the times because I'm like my old games. I chose Blizzard because StarCraft LAN parties on custom maps was the tits back in the day. I put id up there too out of my deep respect for John Carmack (who seems to live this philosophy), but he's no longer at id.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 22:32:59 No.2765867 Report Delete

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>>2765846
It was mainly about the social aspect for me. I was always on and never much cared about gear. I kinda just fell into a tanking role. It was getting to a point where I felt everyone around me was expecting unreasonable things from me. I didn't play to be their tank slave and get them their next epic or fingers crossed legendary piece. I always made my raids but there was this expectation I should always tank instances for guild members to help them gear. I genuinely felt my time was being taken advantage of by the time I quit. By the end anytime I said no to someone because of time constraints I was always getting shit for it. That or incessant begging. People just cared more about imaginary and soon to be irrelevant gear than they did about hanging out.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:13:48 No.2766210 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766229

Nihilanth did nothing wrong

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:17:30 No.2766212 Report Delete

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>>2764356
Companies do understand this, but most games made in the past 5 or so years are going to be too complex to get much in the way of meaningful user mods

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:32:59 No.2766229 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766393

>>2766210
The thumbnail kinda looked like Nihilanth was sporting a cowboy hat.
Now THAT would be an idea to resurrect HL3.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 02:39:07 No.2766237 Report Delete

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>>2765863
With a LAN party you actually interact with people in person.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:50:30 No.2766381 Report Delete

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>>2765741

Bloody luved Opposing Forces deathmatch.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:23:05 No.2766393 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766614

>>2766229
Wasn't Gunman Chronicles some wacky time traveling space cowboy game? I heard it was shit but maybe Valve will more likely do a sequel to Gunman Chronicles (or Ricochet 2) rather than continue with Half-Life. Oy vey...

>>2765474
Have those top tier games actually aged well? I haven't played anything but USS Darkstar and They Hunger from that list and from my experience they totally blow away the competition in HL SP mods. I loved it how Neil Manke's team made so much original content at least in They Hunger or at least used them quite creatively as in USS Darkstar.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:54:51 No.2766590 Report Delete

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>>2765608
And nothing else?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:01:52 No.2766598 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2766623

>>2764405
>I'm using the HD skin pack for both and Source's weapons look actually pretty good.

I personally can't stand the HD weapons. The Beretta has such an annoying, unrealistic, over-the-top recoil effect, and the M16 and shotgun are both so much louder than their original counterparts that they feel more powerful than they actually are.

I think the HD characters look nice, but I don't think it's worth the trade-off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:06:53 No.2766605 Report Delete

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>>2765021
Well, the crossbow was a lot more powerful in HL2, while the revolver didn't feel as useful overall like it did in the predecessor.

I didn't have much of a problem with it. The game is already easy enough as it is. No need to make it easier with excessive crossbow bolts.

Towards the end, I usually just save what bolts I have for the white elite combine troopers, and I feel that it works adequately in terms of balance.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:12:18 No.2766610 Report Delete

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>>2765687
Idk tbh, I personally enjoyed my subsequent playthroughs more. Maybe it's because I played it long after its release, and had to adjust to its gameplay before seeing the true brilliance of it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:14:32 No.2766614 Report Delete

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>>2766393
It was a mod gone commercial.

It was okay, one thing that I haven't seen in other games was the configurable rocket launcher

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:25:28 No.2766623 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767839

>>2766598
Agree 100%. And I don't really care for the look of the pistol model, either. For people that don't know, you can turn off the HD models using the -nohdmodels launch parameter in Steam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:27:50 No.2766624 Report Delete

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>>2764340
>Sven

Last time I played that some fat girl admin threatened to ban me because I was having too much fun. Haven't played in years. This was one of the better servers, too (Multiplay UK I believe).

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:24:44 No.2766704 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767868

HL1 deathmatch pissed me off. So much could be tweaked with a few edits of an .ini file, it made the game grossly unfair.

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:06:04 No.2766739 Report Delete

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>>2764340
>dedicated to the early half-liives
>be playing vanilla half-life with a friend
>fucking around in the room before the chamber with the two scientists
>jumping around, spamming E
>scientist bugs out and starts walking around while talking
>standing in between him and the retinal scanner
>the scientist grabs gordons shoulders as if it were the scanner and shoves his face into the screen

glorious vanilla half-life

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:08:29 No.2767839 Report Delete

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>>2766623
it's an option in the video options now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:37:48 No.2767868 Report Delete

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>>2766704
Like what? I've never played HL1 deathmatch. Is that how people were able to bunnyhop and stuff?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:40:48 No.2767873 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767884

gl_texturemode, GL_NEAREST or GL_LINEAR?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:44:18 No.2767884 Report Delete

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>>2767873
only faggets use filters, so

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:57:48 No.2767914 Report Delete

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>>2764340
>Sven coop

This was my jam. There was just nothing cozier than playing this with bros on a cold winters day, wrapped up in an electric blanket, mowing down row after row of attacking aliums with turrets on that one map.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:58:22 No.2767917 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767920

>>2765396
Black Mesa is shit. Now the devs are charging people to play their stupid piece of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:59:25 No.2767920 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767925 >>2767948

>>2767917

Why should people work to create entertainment for you without being paid?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:00:40 No.2767925 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767942

>>2767920
I'm a communist.

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:09:22 No.2767942 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767969

>>2767925

Oh. It's the slide for you, then.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:15:28 No.2767948 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767953

>>2767920
Cause black Mesa gets rid of all the pacing and exploration of hl1 with an unfinished storyline, awkward va's, and the worst footstep sound imaginable, that took 8 years to finally release which is buggy as fuck. Then they draw up a sfm trailer in 5 mins that attempts awkward humor and some cheap Internet ARG marketing attempts, release it on steam for 20 dollars (early access), and still don't release xen.

But you defend them because they're a small team, right? Meanwhile things like CoF and Stanley parable (mod + full game) get released with higher production value in years less dev time than black mesa.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:19:09 No.2767953 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767990

>>2767948
>gets rid of all the pacing and exploration of hl1
Not enough air vents for you?
>worse footstep sound imaginable
>buggy as fuck
Oh wait you're just doing dumb exaggerations. Different anon here; you're acting dumb. Black Mesa is alright, it's a nice bonus for fans of HL1, and no one is forcing you to pay for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:27:26 No.2767969 Report Delete

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>>2767942
Kek.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 02:48:53 No.2767990 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768475

>>2767953
I was fine up until they started charging for it. When they charge 20 dollars for that game, I'm going to rate it as a 20 dollar game, which is shit. When it was a mod I waited patiently since 2005.

>Oh wait you're just doing dumb exaggerations. Different anon here; you're acting dumb. Black Mesa is alright, it's a nice bonus for fans of HL1, and no one is forcing you to pay for it.

Oh wait you're just sitting there not bringing up any counterpoints, except...vents. Did you even play hl1 past we've got hostiles?

Otherwise you're fine with glitches and shitty production value, because it's "alright"? Fuck if I knew I could release some buggy and unfinished project that almost rivals boyhood in dev time and shittily market it up to people like you and then still receive your money, I should be doing that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:29:16 No.2768475 Report Delete

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>>2767990
The only way I think of that Black Mesa has less "exploration" than the original HL is how they cut down the air vent section of Office Complex and the severely cut On a Rail. I don't like the OAR cuts, but the OAR Uncut add-on fixes that.

Also, in some places they added a few more areas to poke around, like the expanded offices in the very beginning and the labs in Questionable Ethics.

As for bugs, the only one I remember is the glitched air strike console and maybe a crash or two. It was not a notably buggy release.

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