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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 16:30:23 No.2741730 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2742171 >>2742578 >>2743397

Whatever happened to the shmup general? Seems like it's been at least two months since I saw one.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 16:42:41 No.2741756 Report Delete

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I'm playing three games right now: Gradius (X68k port by Sharp), Final Crisis, and Zanac AI. First two are great, but the last one's hitbox programming must be screwy; it seems the shield weapon has too small a hitbox compared to how it appears on-screen, which has lead me into cheap deaths time and time again. I'm considering switching to Zanac EX/FDS, but I find that version lass manipulable and AI still has its moments.

Star Force is fun, too, from what I just played.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 16:45:42 No.2741762 Report Delete

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Been playing Air Zonk lately. Absolutely outstanding game with a 15 minute long final level.

Coryoon was made by the same people and it just as fun.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 17:52:23 No.2741852 Report Delete

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Ikaruga is utter gape.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 17:56:21 No.2741858 Report Delete

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Why do I still suck at Dodonpachi? I've been playing it forever.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 17:56:29 No.2741859 Report Delete

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I've been playing Eliminate Down a lot lately. It's really fun, and that soundtrack just kicks ass.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 17:59:17 No.2741865 Report Delete

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>>2741859
Funny you say that because playing that last night for the first time is what made me think about making this thread.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 18:21:06 No.2741892 Report Delete

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Does anyone have recommendations for some good vertical games? I have Ikaruga, Karous, and Gunbird 2 currently.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 18:24:04 No.2741894 Report Delete

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>>2741892
You ever play Grind Stormer? It does some things that were really ahead of its time in 93, it's pretty neat to see which chunks of that game went on to influence games from studios formed by ex Toaplan devs.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 18:58:27 No.2741940 Report Delete

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>>2741892

Image Fight and War of Aero. Rare instances of verticals having level design!

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 19:11:45 No.2741947 Report Delete

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I softmodded my Saturn memory card discovered Batltle Garegga which i consider a gift of god but I'm always getting ass handed to me same with Darius Gaiden, Gunbird and Rayforce/Galatic Attack. Also how i do play Terra Divers im confused by it

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 19:56:16 No.2742017 Report Delete

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>>2741852
>gape
>The highest form of love, especially brotherly love, charity; the love of God for man and of man for God.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 22:04:15 No.2742171 Report Delete

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>>2741730

I've been going crazy the last month or two buying shmups. I got G-Darius last weekend and have been enjoying that.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 22:09:27 No.2742182 Report Delete

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Started playing Thuder Force 4 (well, lightning force for the framerate). It took a few game overs but I've finally made it to the final stage. I'm yet to beat it, but I think this might be one of my favourite shmups, right next to R-type Delta and Gradius Gaiden.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 22:16:40 No.2742201 Report Delete

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>>2742171
I played that over at Galloping Ghost, liked it. I have beaten Darius Gaiden (part of it) and its amazing.
>>2742182
Thunder Force IV is my favorite probably imo magnum opus of Vertical shooters. Its so good.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 22:43:37 No.2742241 Report Delete

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>>2742201
I think you meant to say horizontal. I get what you mean though, Music is top tier, its challenging and very fast paced, the weapons are all great. I love in the last level when a bunch of allied ships appear and help you out, then equip you to look like the ship in the intro sequence. That shit was fucking cool.

I think it earns a place in my triforce of perfect hori shooters: Gradius Gaiden, R-Type Delta, Thunder Force 4.

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Anonymous Fri 16 Oct 2015 22:45:17 No.2742245 Report Delete

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>>2742241
I confuse them still to this day!
and I haven't beaten it i made it as far as stage 7....Its such a amazing game.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 01:59:49 No.2742558 Report Delete

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I cleared Crimzon Clover Boost for the first time.

Still fucked up the scoring, though...

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 02:07:54 No.2742578 Report Delete

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>>2741730
Have you looked in /vg/, ya know, where the general threads are?

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 04:07:03 No.2742698 Report Delete

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Just 1cced Satazius on Insane finally. Yesterday I almost 1LCed it but totally lost my nerves on the endboss and still managed to lose all my lives to it.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 04:07:23 No.2742701 Report Delete

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>>2742578
We've had shmup generals on /vr/ for a long time because the subject matter is way too niche for it to work on /vg/. The amount of posts in these are so slow that a single thread can last upwards to 40+ days sometimes.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 04:51:34 No.2742740 Report Delete

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>>2741940
>War of Aero
Was this also made by Irem? I can't find much info about it but it says some chinese company published it.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 05:15:21 No.2742760 Report Delete

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>>2741940
>Rare instances of verticals having level design!
kill yourself retard

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 05:17:54 No.2742762 Report Delete

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>>2742760
He is right though. The lack of environmental hazards in verties is a bit embarrasing to say the least.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 05:29:45 No.2742772 Report Delete

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>>2742762
Environmental hazards aren't the only thing that make up level design.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:05:47 No.2742806 Report Delete

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>>2742772
No, but it's a very important aspect of it

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:14:18 No.2742815 Report Delete

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>>2742806
>like a minute of staying still and shooting near the end of stage 1
Some may say it's just one shitty example but it captures just how lazy and full of padding the "level design" in horizontal scrollers was

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:20:40 No.2742823 Report Delete

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>>2742806
It depends on the game. You may as well claim Streets of Rage 2 has no level design as well because more than half the game has hardly any environmental hazards.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:22:48 No.2742824 Report Delete

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>>2742815
Still better than vertie design philosophy
>hurr let's just spam the whole screen with bullets
>the player has bombs so it's all still balanced

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:24:19 No.2742825 Report Delete

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>>2742823
I was talking about STGs of course... Of course not every genre needs this, but for STGs it's very important imo

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:29:01 No.2742829 Report Delete

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>>2742824
How about you try killing the enemies before they fill the screen with bullets next time. Or do you not like the fact that the games don't let you take frequent naps like horizontal scrollers do?

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:47:20 No.2742841 Report Delete

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>>2742806
It's not important for games which never supposed to have them. And saying that those games have no level design because of it is really stupid.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 06:48:54 No.2742843 Report Delete

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>>2742698
>Just 1cced Satazius on Insane finally. Yesterday I almost 1LCed it but totally lost my nerves on the endboss and still managed to lose all my lives to it.
It's a fucking great game isn't it? I'm in the same boat btw keep choking the 1lc to the stage 5 boss rush which is a shit ton harder than the games final boss. Strategy for final boss is all aggression first form = point blank the top and bottom blue pods with laser and missiles it kills the first form before it does anything, 2nd form point blank centre core then move back and up and down to avoid those homing things leaving charge bomb to remove 3rd form without doing anything and then the final form which is basically just up and down. My only gripe against this awesome game is not having online leaderboards on steam.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 07:03:09 No.2742870 Report Delete

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>>2742843
The game is definitely one of my favorite shmups. But I find the weapons are kinda unbalanced. The blue shot which goes up- and down-wards and seeks enemies is basically a must-have, since it's just too effective. The rocket shot which shoots multiple rockets forward is also pretty OP since it does a shitton of damage and still almost covers the whole screen when upgraded. And the special shot from R-Type is also OP since you just can kill almost every enemy in one shot with it. Add to this that you get a bunch of weapon only later on without being able to upgrade them earlier and you always only end up with one and the same weapons.

But yea, the final boss is not that hard once you have the patterns down. I find the hardest enemy in the game is the 4th boss of stage 5. The one which shoots rockets from above and below and the same time shoots lasers from the front. It's alwys a pain to dodge the rockets especially since they can kill you with one hit even if you have the shield. I find the best tactic against him is to use the rocket shot and trying to destroy the enemy's rockets with it, but it's quite difficult.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 07:11:43 No.2742875 Report Delete

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>>2742870
Also, the Laser is also a must-have for later levels.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 07:34:21 No.2742901 Report Delete

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>>2742829

Some people enjoy when the devs actually make an attempt at level design before assuming players are satisfied just sliding a hitbox around a screen while dodging teh epic bullet spirals of doom.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 07:35:34 No.2742904 Report Delete

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>>2742870
>I find the best tactic against him is to use the rocket shot and trying to destroy the enemy's rockets with it, but it's quite difficult.
Agreed, i've found the best method is to use the missile/rockets and start at the top of the screen this way it destroys a bunch off screen before they come down, it's still a bitch though. Level 2 onwards i use laser always and homing shot+ missiles for the secondary.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 07:42:49 No.2742908 Report Delete

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>>2742904
Do you mean the homing shot from Thunder Force? The blue ball laser? I also liked to use this instead of the missiles, since I thought it could be quite effective against boss enemies, since you always can directly aim at the core of the boss, but I find even there the missiles are just better.

For stages (not boss fights) I find the enemy seeking laser which shoots up and downwards is the best. It's pretty effective against small enemies from front and behind, and even covers everything above and below you.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 07:45:03 No.2742914 Report Delete

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>>2742901
You could just play a bullet hell centered around bullet cancels if you don't want to dodge bullets, dude.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 07:47:56 No.2742919 Report Delete

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>>2742901
mechanically you're always sliding around a hitbox to avoid other hitboxes.

the sequence and patterns of teh epic spirals of doom is essentially the level design, i mean to really simplify things they're the equivalent of the hori corridors but they look like bullets rather than rocks or metal walls

i think part of the problem people have is that a hail of bullets sometimes has less character -and might seem lower effort- than the nicely made environment graphics of hori shooters

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 10:33:09 No.2743114 Report Delete

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http://puu<.>sh/jG88A/541dcabaff.webm
I should really strive towards that 2-ALL, but every time I start playing, I get disencouraged by single death in first loop and lay off the game for a while.
Maybe I should try to clear 2nd loop first from savestate in one go?

>>2742901
Play better games. You can abstract anything into "move a defined zone that triggers "lose game" state if intersected by another zone defined as harmful". It's not about bullets, it's not about how many walls there are. What matters is that the sort of challenges you throw at player are fun and distinct.
I don't personally like horis. Maybe it's because I really don't like Gradius or R-Type...

Personally DOJ 2-5 is my favourite shmup stage of all time.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 10:57:49 No.2743141 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2743163

>>2743114
Starting from the 2nd loop is the best idea, until you can get it down semi-consistently. Only then should you start going for full runs.

>that webm
It's funny because I made a video of a 1 miss Hibachi just now. If that's you playing in that webm, I sure hope you're never planning on following that route.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 11:02:00 No.2743147 Report Delete

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>>2742908
No i meant the enemy seeking laser that you mention in the latter, that and straight missiles is all i use.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 11:10:25 No.2743163 Report Delete

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>>2743141
I suppose so. 1st loop is pretty boring, anyway. Otherwise I am pretty comfortable with most of game's challenges. Only some things need bit of practice like:
> 2-5 boss forms before Hibachi
> Fucking 2-4 cartridges
Is there any tricks to the cartridges?
Won't arse with scoring.

But yeah, both webms are mine.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 11:21:27 No.2743178 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2745584

>>2743163
There aren't any tricks to the cartridges. They spawn at random places and move towards random directions. Memorize the spawn points of the enemies and get used to the amount of damage that the cartridges take before they explode.

>Won't arse with scoring.
But scoring is the fun part! Seriously though, if you're bored of going through the 1st loop, then trying to full-chain a couple stages will definitely make it more interesting for you.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 13:32:28 No.2743346 Report Delete

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>>2743147
Yea, that's also all I use. It's sad cause they make all the other weapons kinda redundant.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 13:53:45 No.2743371 Report Delete

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>>2743346
Well i mean very few multi weapon shooters have much balance tbh just look at the Gradiuses.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 13:55:14 No.2743375 Report Delete

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>>2743346
I guess it's worth mentioning btw that the only 1lc on youtube actually uses the spread shot, seems nice in stages but the bosses take longer.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 14:05:35 No.2743391 Report Delete

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>>2743371
That's true, but I find the earlier Gradius games still quite balanced actually. Gradius V too.

>>2743375
I also already saw replays where people took different weapons and did amazingly well, but their game also looked much more difficult than mine due to them using shitty weapons.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 14:13:45 No.2743397 Report Delete

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>>2741730
Too niche of a genre.

That, or people who actually post in the generals are too busy trying to improve.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 16:37:20 No.2743610 Report Delete

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>>2741894
I found Grind Stormer in a thrift store and I'm having a blast with it.
>>2741865
I found this thread after I was done playing it for the day, small world

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 19:29:57 No.2743845 Report Delete

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>>2743371
I don't think Gradius is the best example. I've only played 1, 3 and Gaiden though (and only as Vic Viper and Lord British in Gaiden). Both the double shot and laser are effective at different parts of the game and are nicely balanced if you use them accordingly.

However with Lord British, once you've gotten the level 2 disruptor beam, there isn't much reason to go back to the wave.

R-type might be a better example, since only the red power-up utilizes your bits. It would be cool if the bits improved your blue and yellow power ups.

>>2743610 Grind Stormer is great. I've only played a little bit but I enjoyed the power ups and being able to change how the side cannons are aimed. I think Sol-Deace had a similar feature with being able to aim the "arms" of the ship.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 19:56:24 No.2743905 Report Delete

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Easiest shmups to 1CC?

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 20:09:36 No.2743937 Report Delete

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>>2743905
Raiga - Strato Fighter was pretty easy for me, but still cool game with harder second loop.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 20:11:12 No.2743941 Report Delete

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>>2743905
2hou

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 20:43:01 No.2744002 Report Delete

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>>2743905
KAMUI on normal mode as long as you practice the final boss.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 20:44:43 No.2744008 Report Delete

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 20:59:00 No.2744031 Report Delete

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>>2742017
thats agape

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 22:51:30 No.2744142 Report Delete

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>>2742919
I can't empathize with a cloud of dots but a cave wall represents a place, and if you're in a place then the game has a world. That's what people mean by level design, ludofags.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 23:03:35 No.2744153 Report Delete

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>>2744142
I also prefer environmental hazards from time to time, but if you are sitting in a space ship, then it somehow makes sense that you are not always flying through caves.

I think both styles are great but verties seem a bit lazy sometimes. They often have really detailed background graphics therefor though.

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Anonymous Sat 17 Oct 2015 23:23:27 No.2744183 Report Delete

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>>2743905
thunder force 3

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 01:43:42 No.2744349 Report Delete

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>>2744142
You can make stages that have a presence to them without any environmental hazards. Layer Section feels more like a believable journey than almost all horizontal scrollers I've played, yet it has almost no environmental hazards to speak of. It has more to do with the art direction and how the enemies move in the world than a bunch of big floating hitboxes.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 09:30:46 No.2744739 Report Delete

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>>2744349
Layer Section crossed my mind earlier. Little things like how the enemies move in the background, the seamless level transitions and the way you go from space to the atmosphere come together to show a vertical shooter can also place you in a world. I think it takes greater care by the developers not to ignore these details in a vertical shooter than in a horizontal one. It also helps when the bullets are sparse enough they can plausibly be some kind of energy weapon and not just shmup bullet curtains.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:09:57 No.2745141 Report Delete

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>>2744739
It's hard to name arcade releases that DON'T have detailed backgrounds of real places with enemies coming out of the environments, flying on a lower plane or just moving on the ground. CAVE games have that, Raizing games have that, Psikyo games have that, Toaplan games have that, Takumi games have that, It's only a problem in SOME indie games like Touhou and ones it inspired. Even then there's plenty of indie bullet hell games with lovingly crafted environments like Jamestown, Crimzon Clover and the Alltynex games.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:39:51 No.2745189 Report Delete

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>>2745141
Obviously we're not talking about the handful of 90s arcade games you like to jerk your dick to. Every fucking thread you assholes act like Takumi and Raizing are the only shmups. Also I don't think you understand what's being discussed here or you wouldn't cite CAVE games, the complete antithesis of having a gameworld.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:42:36 No.2745194 Report Delete

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>>2745189
one day we will find a method to power all households in the world with the butthurt Cave elicits from fucks like you

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:44:26 No.2745196 Report Delete

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>>2745189
>CAVE games
>complete anthithesis of having a gameworld
lmao are you for real? Guwange even had walls you couldn't move through

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:47:43 No.2745202 Report Delete

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>>2745196
Yeah Guwange was CAVE doing it right. Even the bullets were obviously supposed to represent arrows or TNT barrels and so on.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:57:35 No.2745218 Report Delete

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>>2745189
So what are we talking about, then? No budget, low effort indie games that nobody plays?

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 15:58:36 No.2745221 Report Delete

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Can we at least agree Touhou was a mistake?

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 16:18:13 No.2745251 Report Delete

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>>2745196
There's no space penis shaft with collidable walls, so autismo's suspension of disbelief is completely ruined.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 18:32:43 No.2745471 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2745486 >>2745552

Does anyone here dislike RayStorm? I always thought it was cool, but booting it up again it plays like shit. Slow ship speed is fighting against trying to lock on things. Bullet colors is orange in stage 1, but a dull purple in stage 2 that blends in with the water, almost everything is a ramming type enemy, lock on reticle is so far away that I can't hit enemies down the screen. I still don't know what the pick ups do other than knowing that there are green, red, blue crystals. It's a messy game unless you actually know this game already.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 18:51:37 No.2745486 Report Delete

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>>2745471
Not me. The ship's speed isn't the fastest but I found that with the way enemy waves come out it feels very natural to lock onto them. At least once you figure out a good order to do so. It feels smoother than it was in RayForce at times. No idea what you mean when you say that most of the enemies are ramming-type, that's not true. Most of them don't even come close to you if you stay near the bottom of the screen. They just shoot and fuck off. Also the pick ups power up your different shot types.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 19:30:56 No.2745552 Report Delete

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>>2745471
Green gives you another lock on laser, red improves your regular attack, yellow I think does both and blue maxes you out. Raystorm has its flaws, but overall its a pretty solid game, my major gripe is that you're confined to a certain area, but since the camera pitches around it sometimes shows you areas (pretty much always in the top left or right corners) that are inaccessible. When you try to get to the top right or left of the screen, your ship slows down as you approach the edges and stops before you can reach the corner.

It's not a big deal once you get used to it, but its easy to forget about it in the moment if you've been playing other shmups, and it really fucks you up when you're trying to dodge projectiles. Also the projectiles aren't coloured well to stand out from the background most of the time.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 19:34:35 No.2745563 Report Delete

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>2743178
>There aren't any tricks to the cartridges
Absolute truth, I always fuck up the chain here or whenever I try to get the secret extend.

>trying to full-chain a couple stages
Definitely this, getting full chains is the way to go on Daioujou, al least try full chaining the first two stages.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 19:35:00 No.2745565 Report Delete

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>since the camera pitches around it sometimes shows you areas (pretty much always in the top left or right corners) that are inaccessible
Because this is a 2.5D game, when you move to the sides, there are some peripheral areas (invisible walls) that you can't move past, and along with it, your shots are angled instead of going straight. So while this is indeed how perspective works, as a game mechanic it's really shit and frustrating when your angled shot won't align with that pesky popcorn enemy by an inch. It's a good point I forgot to mention.

>Also the projectiles aren't coloured well to stand out from the background most of the time.
This is one of the biggest issues. There's no color consistency in enemy bullets and they aren't colored very well.

>Green gives you another lock on laser, red improves your regular attack, yellow I think does both
Thanks.

Fucking Raystorm.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 19:50:39 No.2745584 Report Delete

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2-2 is giving me strange amounts of asspain. 2-3 is easy to no-miss, 2-4 is another difficult one and 2-5 I have trained too much.
Goddamn. At least I could no-miss to the cartridges today.

>>2743178
What I am saying that for 2nd loop I am using just safe routes. I haven't paid too much attention to scoring because as much as I love DOJBL I don't like the scoring system that much. It is ok, but I don't feel obliged to learn stage 3/4 full chains.

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Anonymous Sun 18 Oct 2015 19:51:44 No.2745586 Report Delete

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>>2745565
The perspective and player boundaries can be even worse when you're doing 2 player. Since the camera scrolls left and right as well, if the two players are on either side of the screen and either of them needs to move further outwards, say to dodge a bullet, then they're fucked. The screen stays where it is because the other player is anchoring it, and it won't zoom out because they didn't code it that way.

Despite these flaws, I really do like it. Music is fantastic, its a bright and colourful game (though fuck the bullets), and memorizing how to get the most lock on kills in each level provides a great challenge. Hell, its a vert with actual level design.

My mate has a physical copy that we play every now and then. I secretly practice in retroarch so that I may one day carry him through a 2p game.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 11:56:37 No.2746589 Report Delete

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I was playing the PSN version of Shienryu on my PS3 but got stuck when the level 6 boss didn't spawn. My ship just kept flying endlessly in space. Is this a known glitch?

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 13:00:47 No.2746686 Report Delete

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>>2746589
>Shienryu
This game looks good. Shame I can't play it on mame somehow.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 13:28:50 No.2746724 Report Delete

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>>2746686
>Shame I can't play it on mame somehow.

It's on Sega Saturn equivalent arcade hardware (ST-V), and Mame can't emulate that for shit.

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 18:16:01 No.2747280 Report Delete

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>>2746724
>and Mame can't emulate that for shit.
It depends on the game but yeah most of the shmups on the hardware have issues in mame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 18:26:37 No.2747293 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2747589 >>2750485 >>2752563

Any ketsui fans? I haven't played anything else for months, shit is so god damn good.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 19:47:11 No.2747432 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2747458

Been playing this a lot lately. Such an amazing soundtrack spoiled by high pitched beam noises.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 19:59:39 No.2747458 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2747432
That feel when the best entry in the series has the least interesting artwork.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 21:42:26 No.2747589 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2747591 >>2748350 >>2748492

>>2747293
Yes, I've been playing ketsui lately since I just instaled shmupmame v4.2. Have been playing it for a month and I'm trying to play for score on the first loop, I actually got to 1-all it with a somewhat decent score, still i have to improve some things for the second loop.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 19 Oct 2015 21:44:57 No.2747591 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2747589
cool

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 01:21:01 No.2747972 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2748174

Y'all niggers need waifu pilots

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 01:24:10 No.2747976 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2746686
>>2746724
I use an older version of Mame for the ST-V games (0.148), and most of them, including Shienryu, run fine. They will load in the current version of Mame, but run very slowly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 02:34:28 No.2748119 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2748138

I just finished G-Darius with a completely random route, love this fucking game to death. I just wish I could find a good stick for the PS1/2 that wasn't utter garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 02:43:55 No.2748138 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2748119
Darius is at its best when you're just doing random exploring. Sticking to a route isn't much fun even if your odds at survival are a lot better.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 03:05:31 No.2748174 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2748398

>>2747972

GUH. 2hu truly is the eastern equivalent to MLP with how often sperglords like shoving that shit in places it just doesn't belong.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 05:35:40 No.2748350 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2748760

>>2747589
Good to see someone else playing Ketsui. I've been learning to score on the 1st loop as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 07:00:55 No.2748397 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Deltazeal got recently released on Steam. Game looks good. Go and get you fagets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 07:03:55 No.2748398 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2748174
you're not updated I see. kancolle is the new 2hu.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 09:07:34 No.2748492 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2748760

>>2747589
That's crazy good score/progression for one month my man, good work. I'm ironing out alot of first loop also with 150/160 being around peak for the clear with my current strats without to many mistakes and 2-3 being current best survival wise. Ketsui just feels right though I can't see myself getting bored of it for ages if ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 20 Oct 2015 13:16:29 No.2748760 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750149 >>2750161

>>2748350
That's cool, Ketsui just feels so damn good. Once anyone gets the drill of scoring is just so inevitable to stop playing for score.

>>2748492
Thank you sir, Ketsui definitely a game that has always called my attention. I also was practicing a lot to get, al least, more than 120M on the first loop. This run wasn't meant to unlock Omote, I seriously don't know how to score that shit and always get to fail when it comes to macrododge suicide bullets. If I want to 2-ALL, I have to relearn the first loop in order to not miss so many times and also learn to use my bombs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 04:41:57 No.2750149 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750161

>>2748760
>If I want to 2-ALL, I have to relearn the first loop in order to not miss so many times and also learn to use my bombs.
How i learnt after devising a route for the first loop is force yourself to never bomb, that way i don't have to keep mental track of bombs+lives and it made me much more attentive and confident to going for everything as opposed to having clouded thinking and dropping a panic bomb. I dunno it works for me as like yourself i plan to go for the 2 all and probably keep pushing score after that also. 1st loop danger spots now are 80% stage 5 and the rest are 3/4 boss + midboss being occasionally random assholes.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 04:50:16 No.2750151 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750161

How do you guys manage your hypers in DOJ? I mostly just let them fall off the screen.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 04:57:53 No.2750161 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750208

>>2748760
>>2750149
That makes 3 of us going for a 2-ALL. Good luck, guys!

>>2750151
I plan all of them.

To get the most out of your hypers survival-wise, use 1 at a time. This way rank won't increase at a dramatic rate while still allowing you to make use of the increased fire-power. What you can also do is just keep 1 hyper on your ship constantly and use it as if it were a bomb. This can save you form rough spots. Though if you're still scared of using them, you can just let them fall off. Personally, I feel that the benefits of using a hyper far outweigh the detriments.

If you're looking to earn some bonus-points, it's still a good idea to save 5 hypers for the final stretch of stage 2.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 05:28:52 No.2750208 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2751746

>>2750161
>That makes 3 of us going for a 2-ALL. Good luck, guys!
Thanks man, tbh it's nice to see actual players in these threads for a change.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 10:30:28 No.2750485 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750828

>>2747293
I 1-ALL'd for the first time with a 111M score recently.

Haven't played since. I want to score better and try the second loop at some point, but the requirements seem pretty harsh even for Omote.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 10:55:36 No.2750506 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750507 >>2750530 >>2751373 >>2751403

I finally got a copy of Radiant Silvergun for my Saturn collection. N-now what?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 10:57:34 No.2750507 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750530 >>2750831

>>2750506
throw it in the garbage, Treasure a shit

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 11:13:01 No.2750530 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2750506

Burn various CD-R backups for you, and sell it to dumb collectors.

>>2750507
fantastic meme, one of my favorites form the shmup community (favorite meme is actually the "touhou is good" one)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 11:19:53 No.2750540 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2750734

What does missile even do in Gradius? My bullets look the same

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 13:15:16 No.2750734 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2751247

>>2750540
You have to press the second button, shoots downward middle at an angle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 14:00:45 No.2750828 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2750485
>I 1-ALL'd for the first time with a 111M score recently.
>Haven't played since. I want to score better and try the second loop at some point, but the requirements seem pretty harsh even for Omote.

Well i 1 alled it like 2 years ago and felt the same as you but then i came back and forced myself to play no bombs whatever happens and found it forced me to learn the game to a much better level, it really reveals it's awesomeness when you start going for the loop and learning routes in the stages instead of relying on bombs for a cheese 1-all... Go for it!.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 14:02:00 No.2750831 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2750507

kill urself my man

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 17:21:50 No.2751247 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2751323 >>2751413 >>2756650

>>2750734
>You have to press the second button
just map both to one button tbh it's not like you need to use one exclusively at any point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 18:04:28 No.2751323 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2751247
The version I'm playing has all shot options mapped to one key as well, so it's fun to know that's not the case everywhere.

Right now I'm learning how best to dodge the Moai-head fire and do a no-miss run through stage 3, which is tough but I'm getting closer. At first I was playing a variant of Sharp's X68k port closer to the arcade, but now I'm using the floppy original (faster resetting helps) and rank is quicker to increase based on how many options you activate, only needing two before enemies and projectiles quicken. Maybe I'll jump back into this game at some point using MAME, I suppose, as I'm finishing up Final Crisis and eager to be done with Zanac.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 18:35:50 No.2751373 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2750506
Get a life.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 18:51:29 No.2751403 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2750506
Play it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 18:55:26 No.2751413 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2751247
It's often important to time the bombs right, and when you need your primary shot at that moment, then that would awkward.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 21 Oct 2015 21:48:22 No.2751746 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2750208
It feels really good to have that sense of hype about clearing a game once again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 05:51:32 No.2752484 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2752532 >>2752552 >>2753110 >>2753119 >>2756528

Alright niggers. Post your Top 5 Favorite Shmups.

>Raiden II
>Kolibri
>Elemental Master
>MUSHA
>Jamestown (I know it's not retro, but it's a great shmup regardless)

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 05:56:52 No.2752492 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2752497 >>2752534 >>2753150

I got the run!

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 06:06:25 No.2752497 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752492
Great job, anon

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 06:55:20 No.2752532 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752484
Well your taste is certainly "interesting"... Mine are in no particular order

>Ketsui
>Gradius iv
>Mushi futari
>Satazius
>Guwange blue

Ibara,Garegga,psyvariar revision and a couple others might appear on that list at a different time though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 06:56:56 No.2752534 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752492
That's no easy task right there, congrats fellow shmupian.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 07:34:19 No.2752552 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752484

1. All arcade Darius games
2. R-Type Delta
3. RayForce
4. Gley Lancer
5. Mystic Square

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 07:52:31 No.2752563 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2752571 >>2752598

>>2747293
Been playing it on and off for the better half od this year and I'm having a hard time scoring, by the time I hit 4th stage on the first loop I can only normally reach 45mil, anything you think I'm doing wrong? I'm also getting really close to wrapping up my first loop clear while I'm at it.
But holy shit, I know I'm definitely gonna be playing this for many years to come.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:02:48 No.2752571 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752563
You need to be pointblanking enemies with your lock-on shot to kill them fast enough - it deals more damage at close range, and the options lock onto enemies faster when you're close which also increases the damage a lot. It's scary, but without it you really fall behind with the enemy kills especially on the later stages. Being close in the first place also makes it easier to start a chain.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 08:29:17 No.2752598 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752563
One thing to bare in mind is short clean chains are just as valuable so don't panic and get familiar with enemy placement enough so you can build a clear idea of generally where you will start and finish chains, also think about that gaining 5s with the wide shot solely builds the second multiplier which will be cashed out on big enemies using the lockon, often this is more profitable than always accumulating 5s with the lock on chain so i'd suggest studying some youtube plays and practicing with save states to see how much you can adapt what you're seeing to your current ability. I'll suggest bananamatics replay as he has solid decent scoring routes that don't delve to far into the more nuance ridden confusing strats that superplayers like sps use. Ketsui is like scenario after scenario that you plan what you're going to do for so don't be afraid to do some save state grinding to find what works for you and really program that routine in as it is very easy (i still do now occasionally) forget something small and end up in a panic danger situation that could of been easily avoided.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBdLuFMW9s8

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 15:34:02 No.2753110 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752484
>Ikaruga
>Ikaruga
>Ikaruga
>Ikaruga
>Ikaruga

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 15:36:50 No.2753119 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752484

Gradius III
Salamander
Thunder Force III/IV
Dettana Twin Bee
Radiant Silvergun

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 15:53:41 No.2753150 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2752492
Hey, I was watching your stream.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 16:26:28 No.2753203 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2753231 >>2753423

What's the best input device for verties? I just use the d-pad, I've seen some people use a fight stick but I'm not sure if they're just being le retro gamur

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 16:52:04 No.2753231 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2753203
>What's the best input device for verties?
The best is literally whatever you feel comfortable with, I played with a stick for 4 years after i first got into it and now I use an ascii ps1 pad and have found it perfect for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:50:15 No.2753317 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2753319

I just got a Saturn and a Rhea. What are the best shmups? Also is there a preferred Saturn stick I should purchase, or is there only one model/brand?

P.S. I am a little shmup baby who wants to be decimated, give me a game that will make me cry.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 17:51:22 No.2753319 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2753317

thunder force V

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:09:46 No.2753423 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2753526 >>2753547

>>2753203
>fight stick
out

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 19:58:17 No.2753526 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2753547

>>2753423
Sorry, is that a controversial controller scheme for shmups? I just assumed that I would want one since most of the shmups I played in Japan used a stick.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 20:06:16 No.2753547 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2753665

>>2753526
>>2753423 just has autism.
Either he hates stick controllers or he had an autismal reaction that you called it "fight stick" when it clearly works for SHMUPS just as well, and he'd prefer you to write just "arcade stick".

Honestly it's hard to know with crystal children.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 22 Oct 2015 21:17:45 No.2753665 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2753547
Thanks for clearing that up. I've been hanging out with people who play Third Strike and Melee too much - they refer to them as fight sticks, but I would agree that's incorrect.

The Hori stick seems to get what I am after, or maybe one of those HS110 ones or whatever it is called.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 17:33:01 No.2755259 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2755772 >>2756157 >>2756234

http://store.steampowered.com/app/377860

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 23 Oct 2015 22:20:19 No.2755772 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756130

>>2755259
The only reason I may consider buying this, would be to get the bitter delay on PC.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:39:04 No.2756130 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756238

>>2755772
More importantly getting to play the superior 1.5 version of the game. Mfw all the retards who piss and whinge about the lack of slowdown and input lag on mame get this and are still total shit so find something new to bitch about.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 03:47:36 No.2756139 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756170

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:10:38 No.2756157 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756160

>>2755259
>All the bullets are the same colour
I probably shouldn't be bothered by something this minor but it really makes the game look unappealing

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:12:59 No.2756160 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756178 >>2756221

>>2756157
If you're more obsessed with aesthetics over the actual game you're probably a pleb who should stick to rpgs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:19:19 No.2756170 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756139
I shouldn't have chuckled.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:25:40 No.2756178 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756190

>>2756160
Yeah you're right. Fuck shoot em ups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:37:41 No.2756190 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756178
Yeah it's not for you son and let's face it even with your best efforts you were only ever going to occupy the bottom 5% of the scoreboard. Don't be angry though the modern casual gaming world offers a broad horizon for dumb dumbs like yourself who require a more abacus tier challenge.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 04:40:49 No.2756195 Report Delete

Quoted By:

shh no elitism
only bug girls now

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:07:23 No.2756221 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756226 >>2756227 >>2756328 >>2759608

>>2756160
>aesthetics don't matter
If you're such le gameplay nazi true gamer you probably should stick to reddit,

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:13:08 No.2756226 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756221
Aw man, that showed him.
:^)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:15:19 No.2756227 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756229 >>2756230 >>2756243 >>2759608

>>2756221
And if you think ogling graphics is more important than the depths of gameplay in this genre then you shouldn't be here at all and are part of the problem. Sure aesthetics matter but no where near as much as the game itself. So which shmups do you play to a decent level? im curious... any at all?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:20:45 No.2756229 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756227
I can beat touhou on easy (using continues)

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:21:20 No.2756230 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756241

>>2756227
>ogling
>depths of buzzword
>aesthetics isn't the game itself
>...
typical reddit gamer

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:22:22 No.2756234 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756238 >>2756240 >>2756241

>>2755259
How's the game itself? In the brief gameplay I saw the bullet patterns looked more like Espgaluda than the vomit gargles of DDP/Ketsui.

Who am I kidding, I'll be buying it anyway, but the visual vibe doesn't have me hyped.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:25:54 No.2756238 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756241 >>2756252

>>2756234
I was going to shill the fuck out of this but I hate to say >>2756130 is right. They are basically selling a broken beta test for $20 and the actual game in the form of 1.5 as dlc for another $20. I still think it's a great game and novice mode is an excellent starting point for beginners, but they kinda just went full evil jew on this dlc scheme.
I'm not angry, just disappointed. I'd recommend waiting until they release Futari unless you really want to support CAVE on Steam or whatever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:27:42 No.2756240 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756234
And I think mushihime is more vomit gargling than Ketsui? Your hitbox in ultra mode is the same size as ketsui's at least.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:27:57 No.2756241 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756281 >>2756335

>>2756230
You really think the shmup community is there because of how these games look? Dat american gamer mentality. You're just a grown up version of kids who get excited over christmas lights at this stage.

>>2756234
>but the visual vibe doesn't have me hyped.
Here come the plebs..

>>2756234
>How's the game itself?
It's all about 1.5 imo but in regards to the original ummm original mode is basically toaplan style and very easy well for anybody who actually tries which excludes 99% of the western fanbase. Maniac and ultra have some crazy tapping for scoring techniques that i don't like at all but again that probably won't concern 99% who will think getting past stage 2 is an achievement.

>>2756234
>I saw the bullet patterns looked more like Espgaluda than the vomit gargles of DDP/Ketsui.
No they don't and vomit gargles? You aren't playing those games right.

>>2756238
>They are basically selling a broken beta test for $20 and the actual game in the form of 1.5 as dlc for another $20.
Is this confirmed? If so fuck that Cave can suck a fat one I'm busy with ketsui anyway but 1.5 at a non retard price would of been nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:28:59 No.2756243 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756249

>>2756227
Who the fuck wants to spend over 50 hours repeating the same 30 minutes if those 30 minutes look and sound like shit? If there's a genre where aesthetics are very important, it's shoot em ups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:31:31 No.2756249 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756243
>50 hours
Lmfao pleb confirmed. There isn't a single cave game that looks or sounds particularly bad though so it's a moot point and the figures speak for themselves just go look at any shmup scoreboard anywhere and you'l see the ratio of people who try to any kind of semi decent level is 2% tops.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:36:00 No.2756252 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756265 >>2756269

>>2756238
$40 seems like fair price, wasn't it more expensive on X360?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:49:16 No.2756265 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756285 >>2756298

>>2756252
>$40 seems like fair price,
In what reality? Crimson clover is god tier and cost a 1/4 of the price. Honestly cave fans are some of the biggest cucks around Cave treated the west with ignorance and like shit for years then they show up 6 years to late on the very platform everyone was begging for solely because the company is in financial difficulty and tries to pull some crazy price shit? By all means it's your money but holy fuck that is not a "fair price".

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:51:05 No.2756269 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756272 >>2756274

>>2756252
That's a terrible price, and if that's the pricing situation then Cave can suck my dick, I'll just play it on Mame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:54:23 No.2756272 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756278

>>2756269
>I'll just play it on Mame.
I agree about the price but 1.5 was never dumped so you won't.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:54:36 No.2756274 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756269
It's not. 1.5 DLC price hasn't been announced.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 05:56:35 No.2756278 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756284

>>2756272
Well in that case I'd just play something that I already have. Maybe that would give me the motivation to play for score.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:02:21 No.2756281 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756284

>>2756241
I like vomit gargles, Ketsui's aimed shit and suicide bullets certainly fit that label.

From what I saw of Mushihimesama, the zakos fire straight lines of bullets (lasers) and there seemed to be a lot of radials from big enemies like in Espgaluda. Those don't look as nice.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:06:04 No.2756284 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756278
>Maybe that would give me the motivation to play for score.
If you haven't found something you like enough by now given the massive amount of top tier stuff that's emulated then i can't see you developing that desire now. To many people get sucked into "muh new experience" so they buy/download some new shit play it for 3 days and want the next new accumulation rush you gotta get out of that bullshit and stick with something.

>>2756281
>I like vomit gargles, Ketsui's aimed shit and suicide bullets certainly fit that label.
Ok i wasn't seeing the visual analogy as you were so fair enough.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:10:02 No.2756285 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756287 >>2756290

>>2756265
Why are you comparing it to doujin game, retard?
> treated the west with ignorance and like shit for years then they show up 6 years to late on the very platform everyone was begging
I can't decipher this fedora stream of consciousness, sorry.
>crazy price shit
Again, their games and other STGs always had this or more expensive prices. Why it should be cheaper on Steam?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:13:38 No.2756287 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756304

>>2756285
>Why it should be cheaper on Steam?
Because every single worthwhile game on steam costs less than half of what they're asking. Even big names like Ikaruga.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:14:49 No.2756290 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756304

>>2756285
>Why are you comparing it to doujin game, retard?
Really? Because that doujin was of the same quality if not better than most "professionally" developed shmups and it was developed by one of the greatest players in the world.

>>2756285
>I can't decipher
Yeah but you get that a lot don't you?

>>2756285
>Again, their games and other STGs always had this or more expensive prices. Why it should be cheaper on Steam?
Because it's a fucking download and a quick look at the market on this format clearly shows no other shmup cost anywhere near as much even Raiden 4 was half the price you fucking nappy sniffing sperg cunt. I bet you're one of those tragic cunts that owns every cave release 3 times just to show support aren't you? stay cuck you sad sack of shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:23:41 No.2756298 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756265
tbh it's not like it was cave's job to put their games on steam, that's up to the publishers.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:27:46 No.2756304 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756306 >>2756309

>>2756287
Ikaruga cost the same on Xbox Live, the fact that Steam has shit selection of games and Treasure's and MOSS business models don't oblige other companies to sell their product for peanuts
>>2756290
Doujin games are made of enthusiasm, and don't require to return investments you thick cunt
>Because it's a fucking download
So is MGSV.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:33:02 No.2756306 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756308

>>2756304
>Doujin games are made of enthusiasm, and don't require to return investments you thick cunt
And a product is worth what a consumer is willing to pay for it and as stated a quick look at the market shows this price is unlikely desirable for most people and Caves need for return investments is only currently so high because the company is fucked as previously stated and it's their own fault for not embracing steam earlier when they could of set the standard for pricing before the competitive options showed up, so fuck off back to snorting coke off your reco fuck pillow in your snoopy pants fucking dickhead.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:38:15 No.2756308 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756306
>is only currently so high
Are you pretending to be retarded? That's what their games always cost. It's their right to not giving a fuck about ideology of doing a big favor of support by paying $15 on the start or waiting for sale.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 06:38:51 No.2756309 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756304
Crimzon Clover had an arcade release on Taito Nesica boards, bro. The Steam release is based on that version.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:03:17 No.2756328 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756331 >>2756337

>>2756221
You're arguing against a community that thinks a game with buttugly pre-rendered CGI graphics is the height of arcade video gaming, m8. It's a lost cause, shmup fans have sacrificed all of their judgement and thinking process for autistic scoring. They're nothing more than soulless machines that exist solely to 1CC slightly above average video games.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:09:18 No.2756331 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756328
kek
cgi looks ok for machines and insects though

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:10:46 No.2756335 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756337 >>2756339 >>2756342

>>2756241
>You really think the shmup community is there because of how these games look?
The Japanese community doesn't disregard aesthetics and keeps them on par with the actual gameplay. Yet more reason why nipps are superior to braindead gaijin.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:12:47 No.2756337 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756346

>>2756328
Another dumb pleb cunt who can't think beyond aesthetics. Your mind is literally shaped by the western gaming media and it's fucking sad. You're the type of moron who thinks the same game running on slightly higher graphical settings with his gtx is instantly a better game.

>>2756335
>The Japanese community doesn't disregard aesthetics and keeps them on par with the actual gameplay

Indeed but no player quits a great game because they don't like a stage theme or how an enemy looks. Just like i didn't stop playing espgaluda even though i dislike the poor tier trance and tranny fairy characters.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:15:30 No.2756339 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756342

>>2756335
Chorensha came out in 1995. Different demographics back then.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:18:40 No.2756342 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756343

>>2756339
>>2756335
Raizing were the last devs to put out games with great gameplay and aesthetics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:21:50 No.2756343 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756347 >>2756350 >>2756387

>>2756342
You mean Battle Garegga? You can't have good aesthetics in a vertical shitmup. That's stupid, just draw slight variations the same tiny ship sprite and pink dildo bullets.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:23:38 No.2756346 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756356

>>2756337
>i didn't stop playing espgaluda even though i dislike the poor tier trance and tranny fairy characters
Sure, but you probably prefered other games over it with better aesthetics, although the gameplay was not much better.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:28:09 No.2756347 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756349

>>2756343
>You mean Battle Garegga?
Dimahoo, 1944 and Brave Blade were the last shmups they developed before converting to making mobile phone games & Bleach fighters.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:29:44 No.2756349 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756351 >>2756358

>>2756347
brave blade looks like total ass for the time it came out (2000 on ps1 hardware, same year when the dreamcast and naomi boards were at their peak)

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:30:44 No.2756350 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756361

>>2756343
>You can't have good aesthetics in a vertical shitmup
This thread is getting more and more retarded...

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:32:21 No.2756351 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756349
It's more than fine for what it is, which is a PS1-based manic shooter.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:40:44 No.2756356 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756379

>>2756346
>Sure, but you probably prefered other games over it with better aesthetics, although the gameplay was not much better.
Well espgaluda has pretty original gameplay that although not my favorite is great in it's own right. I still stuck with espgaluda until i got a clear with a decent score as it's still a great game behind the things i don't like (aesthetically it is my least fav cave ever) and that's the most important thing... the core. Unfortunately it's almost impossible to communicate this to most people because they simply aren't prepared to invest effort and refused to be convinced by those of us that do of how fun it actually is when you start actually playing to get better, you literally see so much more of a game.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:42:08 No.2756358 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756362 >>2756367

>>2756349
It's ugly as shit but plays really well and has a great scoring system, the looks really don't detract from it's fun at all.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:43:38 No.2756361 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756387

>>2756350
Vert shitmups all look the same, deal with it.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:43:55 No.2756362 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756367 >>2756370

>>2756358
The graphics are okay. Much better than something like Thunder Force V in fact.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:46:01 No.2756367 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756358
>>2756362
It's also 30 fps

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:46:48 No.2756370 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756362
Yeah sure and like i said it doesn't detract from the game at all that said i haven't seen it running on a proper crt and only in mame so maybe it's not so bad irl.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 07:54:19 No.2756379 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756356
I agree with you that gameplay is definitely the most important, but I find aesthetics also very important.

The awesome soundtracks and cool art styles are one of the main things which draw me to this genre. They are much better imo, than having to listen to rap music or looking at faggy muscle packed heroes and slutty whores in skimpy clothes like in fighting games for example.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:07:29 No.2756387 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756397

>>2756343
>>2756361
Oh, you're still here, can you pretend that you're spaceship and contain your autism, please?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:12:23 No.2756397 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756402

>>2756387
kek at the image
But that's a hori shooter, no wonder it looks that good. Horis are just better suited for displaying good presentation values and no amount of memeing from your part is gonna change that.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:14:38 No.2756402 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756404

>>2756397
>Horis are just better suited for displaying good presentation values
speaking of memeing

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:16:03 No.2756404 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756402
Let's just agree to disagree, I respect your bad opinions.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:17:34 No.2756405 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756515 >>2757496

What's the difference with Mushihime ver1.5? I want to know what all the fuzz is about.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 08:55:38 No.2756443 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756454 >>2756954 >>2760421

Mushihimesama is coming to Steam on November 5th!

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:14:08 No.2756454 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756457 >>2756464 >>2756468 >>2756490

>>2756443
Noone cares. Deltazeal is a much better game and it is already on Steam.

Reason why danmaku is not so great: Good gameplay has a good mix out of precisely shooting enemies and precisely dodging things, but the precision in danmaku is all just about dodging bullets, which means you will most of the time just spend looking at your ship to dodge better, while the rest of the screen is just filled with bullets anyway.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:16:09 No.2756457 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756454
Fact: only aspergers use the word danmaku in mid-conversation unironically.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:27:51 No.2756464 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756470

>>2756454
>Good gameplay has a good mix out of precisely shooting enemies and precisely dodging things
Any source on that?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:30:22 No.2756468 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756454
>Deltazeal
>a remake of G-Stream G2020
Nice, didn't even know it existed.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:33:06 No.2756470 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756471

>>2756464
It's just common sense. Also being able to observe the stage is much more interesting. But when the whole screen is just full of bullets, then there isn't much space to observe the stages. You have your eyes at your ship the whole time and move slowly milimetre for milimetre, while the rest of the screen is just full of bullets.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:34:15 No.2756471 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756480

>>2756470
But that's because you're using shitty spread types, silly. Stop using training wheels.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:36:46 No.2756475 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2742740
Defunct developer Allumer made that shmup, and only their second one after Rezon.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:39:40 No.2756480 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756484 >>2756487 >>2756503

>>2756471
Even when you don't use spread types, your eyes will still be mainly on your ship mostly. You just move more often from left to right then (in verties). Because even the straight shots are very powerful in these games, to the point where you hardly have to aim.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:44:10 No.2756484 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756493 >>2759172

>>2756480
I disagree though, if you kill big enemies in mushihime they cancel out all the bullets.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:45:38 No.2756487 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756493

>>2756480
What you saying mostly applies to bosses, but really you're dead set on hating the subgenre there's nothing I can say to change your mind.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:45:59 No.2756490 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756454
The hell are you talking about?

Mushihimesama specifically has a lot of enemies that cancel bullets when killed that need to be shot down correctly. Just about every CAVE game is centered around shooting enemies and maneuvering around them more than dodging their bullets.

The only bullet hell games I can think of that have less emphasis on shooting are Touhous, which have grazing mechanics instead. But even many of those involve quite a bit of shooting, just not on the bosses.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:50:10 No.2756493 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756495 >>2756515

>>2756484
Sure, but it doesn't nearly take as much precision to do this, than the aiming precision you need in games like Gradius for example, since your shot is much thinner there and the core of the enemies are harder to hit.

>>2756487
I don't hate the genre, I just don't prefer it. The only exception would be games like Ikaruga or Radiant Silvergun. This is danmaku done right (if you can still call this danmaku actually).

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:53:30 No.2756495 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756493
Also games like Battle Garegga are cool, but Cave style is not really my case.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 09:55:49 No.2756497 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756505 >>2757892

Neat gameplay vid of an unreleased arcade STG based on N64 hardware.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6vG6Id908Y

The N64 didn't have much STG's now that you look back at it. There's Vanishing Earth, and that's it I think?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:00:01 No.2756503 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756480
>your eyes will still be mainly on your ship mostly
No they won't. The ship is the last place you want to be looking at. And if you can get away with just moving horizontally and playing passively, you really need to play some actually difficult bullet hell games.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:01:58 No.2756505 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756497
Nice find. Looks better than Star Soldier: Vanishing Earth.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:10:43 No.2756515 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756524

>>2756493
>Sure, but it doesn't nearly take as much precision to do this, than the aiming precision you need in games like Gradius for example, since your shot is much thinner there and the core of the enemies are harder to hit.
You'll absolutely love playing for score then. You won't be able to spam randomly when you try going for a high-score.

>>2756405
That's the joke. People here are fuckheads that only want to play the game because it's not currently available. They don't care about the actual gameplay and will likely not even be able to get a basic 1cc.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:16:47 No.2756524 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756527

>>2756515
>You won't be able to spam randomly when you try going for a high-score.
There is no other way than to randomly spam in games like Crimzon Clover. Just look at the size of your shot... It almost covers the whole screen in break mode.

Not all danmaku are like this though. Mainly only cave style games have this. Games like Ikaruga or Battle garegga are awesome, but Cave is rather meh imo.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:18:41 No.2756527 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756532

>>2756524
But did you get a high-score playing Crimzon Clover? Did you get a high-score playing Cave games?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:18:56 No.2756528 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Look, I probably made this up in my fuzzy memory, so don't bother thinking too hard, but is there an horizontal shmup for either Genesis or SNES where most of the stages are giant motherships?
I could be confusing it with memories from Gleylancer or Phalanx's mothership stages.

>>2752484
R-Type Delta
R-Type Final
R-Type 3
Bio-Hazard Battle
SC92: Recca

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:21:59 No.2756532 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756541 >>2756542 >>2756853

>>2756527
What do you mean by "high-score"? Being in the top five rankings?
I 1cced Crimzon Clover on normal. It's cool, but I prefer other games more.

Currently I'm playing a Ikaruga, which takes a shitton more precision than this and is much much better game.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:26:29 No.2756541 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756549

>>2756532
Have you tried scoring Dodonpachi? And by high-score I mean the highest possible score you can get as an individual. The kind of score that makes you go: "This is the very best I could possibly do'

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:27:37 No.2756542 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756609 >>2756637

>>2756532
A game where you hardly even need to shoot or dodge takes more precision than Crimzon Clover?

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:32:52 No.2756549 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756560

>>2756541
>Have you tried scoring Dodonpachi?
No, I am not that much interested in cave games, that's why I didn't play them much yet. I don't have to spend hundrets of hours playing to get to know a game though.

>The kind of score that makes you go: "This is the very best I could possibly do'
This doesn't exist for me. Good players never stop getting better. There is always room for improvement, no matter how good you are, if not, then the game you play is too simple and easy.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:40:37 No.2756560 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756573

>>2756549
>No, I am not that much interested in cave games, that's why I didn't play them much yet.
If you're not interested, how would you know before you try them out seriously?

>This doesn't exist for me. Good players never stop getting better. There is always room for improvement, no matter how good you are, if not, then the game you play is too simple and easy.
Bullshit, it's the exact opposite. If you're a skilled player, you know exactly where your limits lie. It sounds like you haven't failed enough yet, or you would know this.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 10:47:02 No.2756573 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756560
>how would you know before you try them out seriously?
Again, I don't have to play a game for hundrets of hours to get to know them. Go and suck a dick retard.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 11:13:03 No.2756609 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756542
>he only plays as dot eater
Stop being a scrub and play for score

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 11:30:11 No.2756637 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756542
>A game where you hardly even need to shoot or dodge

Sounds like you're talking about Crimzon "Just Double Break Everything" Clover here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 11:34:37 No.2756650 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756798

>>2751247
Obviously never played on a high loop with suicide bullets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:05:32 No.2756702 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761774

"Verts were a mistake" -people who aren't Cave drones or touhoutards

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:14:18 No.2756715 Report Delete

Quoted By:

the only horizontal game worth playing is Boogie Wings

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 12:53:26 No.2756798 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756650
I have looped them all but not got upto the kind of loops where that matters and nor has who i was talking to so what i said still stands.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:19:23 No.2756853 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756858 >>2758062

>>2756532
>Currently I'm playing a Ikaruga, which takes a shitton more precision than this and is much much better game.
Bullshit, at a high level all these games require a high level of precision in one way or another and for crimzon that is in timing and enemy placements to attain max breaks achievable. Ikaruga just spells it out a bit more for you and is gash to boot.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:24:48 No.2756858 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756919

>>2756853
I was talking about aiming precision. In Crimzon Clover your shot is very big. In Ikaruga you often have to sniper single enemies with a very thin shot.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 13:56:08 No.2756919 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2756929

>>2756858
Also often with a single burst because your first bullet is narrower than the stream and because you don't want to kill the enemy behind the one you're shooting. Precise as fuck.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:00:12 No.2756929 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756919
That's exactly what I was talking about.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 14:10:44 No.2756954 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756443
>mfw
Aw yeah, motherfucker.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 15:25:42 No.2757083 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2757180

Fuck off with your waifu pilot kiddie gay shit fagets. Real shmups are HARD to the CORE!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAoI1m5CC9Y&list=PLirSddeMOYZ5cbYufElHsAneoOnKIkb-Q&index=6

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 16:06:51 No.2757180 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2757083
That looks like a penis.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:29:31 No.2757474 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2757547 >>2757850 >>2764541 >>2764545

What's your fav non-japanese shmup?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbaA1qIx-C4

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 18:40:43 No.2757496 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756405
Extra enemies everywhere
Remixed music
Notches on boss lifebars to indicate ends of phases
You can't speed kill the TLB's 2nd form anymore
Original Mode now has a shitty scoring system where you sit at the top of the screen and point blank for the entire game
The stage 5 boss has completely different patterns in Original Mode
The addition of max power mode, which lets you start the game with full power and autobomb, but you only get one bomb per life and enemies are more aggressive
Original-max has a rank system based on your counter, similar to futari original. At over 10000 bullets get faster and glow green, over 50000 they get even faster and glow red

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 19:01:36 No.2757547 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2757474
Darius

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:24:33 No.2757850 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2758050 >>2758171

>>2757474
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbaA1qIx-C4
how can a human play this

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:41:10 No.2757887 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2757892 >>2758161 >>2758913

What arcade shmups do you recommend for beginners? I'm in Tokyo, so there should be something available somewhere.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 20:42:54 No.2757892 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2757976

>>2757887
go to the Mikado game center and play
>>2756497

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 21:30:26 No.2757976 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2757892
Hmm, didn't know about that place, thanks.

It'll be quite a trip for me, but it seems interesting enough to visit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 21:44:06 No.2758003 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Thoughts on this game?

Best weapon? Best formation?

Seems that Fire and Water are the most useful since they neutralize enemy bullets.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:05:20 No.2758050 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2757850
The player is literally invincible 90% of the time but no Ikaruga requires no dodging hurf durf durr

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:10:25 No.2758062 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2758091

>>2756853
What the hell is gash?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:25:32 No.2758091 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2758062
Ask your mother.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 22:56:16 No.2758161 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2757887
There is no shmup for beginners.

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Anonymous Sat 24 Oct 2015 23:00:17 No.2758171 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2757850
There's a special field surrounding you. Each time you dodge a bullet at hair lengths of distance, as long as the bullet enters the field, it builds you a meter. When you build up the meter you get a single second of invulnerability. Dodging multiple bullets at hair lengths of distance makes you invincible as long as you don't fuck up and skip a dodge or hit a bullet while in your vulnerable state.

Korea has really out-autism'd Japan here.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 09:17:39 No.2758913 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2758989

>>2757887
Ikaruga you don't have to shoot or dodge.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:07:10 No.2758989 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759000

>>2758913
How does that work?

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:08:08 No.2758990 Report Delete

Quoted By:

They realized shmups are gook chinko shit and not really videogames

Just mindless pattern memorization and you're done.

Too easy...

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:11:50 No.2759000 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759002 >>2759013

>>2758989
You watch memexac's pro review of Ikaruga then go onto 4chan and say stupid shit about a game you've never played seriously while deflecting criticism of CAVE games with 'it gets good 1000 hours in'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:13:14 No.2759002 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759006

>>2759000
>criticism of CAVE games
based on memexac reviews?

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:14:56 No.2759006 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759009

>>2759002
Where's your high score bro? You can't say you don't like Dodonpachi if you haven't even broken the world record.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:17:03 No.2759009 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759006
Then just don't
>say stupid shit about a game you've never played seriously

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:18:43 No.2759013 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759027 >>2759031

>>2759000
The funny thing pretty much all the best ikaruga players state how unfun it is at a high level which unsurprisingly is beyond what you ign opinion mirroring twats have ever actually done in the game. Ikaruga is fucking shit when you actually play it properly so go away.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:23:43 No.2759027 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759013
>implying Ikaruga autists are worth listening to any more than CAVE autists

Missed the point.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:24:58 No.2759031 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759013
Is anything fun at high level, tho? At that point it's pretty much become your second job.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:27:24 No.2759036 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759041

I see you autists are still arguing over inane shit. keep it up.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:29:06 No.2759041 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759105

>>2759036

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:56:56 No.2759105 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759113

>>2759041
Maybe you nerds should let go of petty arguments and work on getting a life.

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 10:59:27 No.2759113 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759105

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 11:44:16 No.2759172 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756484
>I disagree though, if you kill big enemies in mushihime they cancel out all the bullets.
Are you fucking stupid ir something? That's because how the GPS works on Ultra/God and Maniac Mode, you cancel bullets to get higher score not to just clear the screen. Fucking shills need to play before coming here to talk shit.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 13:34:46 No.2759371 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759498 >>2759507

>Elitists shit up another thread.
Then you sad fucks wonder why the community is drying up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:36:58 No.2759498 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759510 >>2759569

>>2759371
I don't think elitism has anything to do with shmup communities dying. They're just not what players like these days, and haven't caught on with the retro hipster audience where other genres have found extends.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:41:04 No.2759507 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759371
The community is dying because people are dumb and rather play Undertale or some other kiddie crap. Only waifu pilots can save shmups now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:42:34 No.2759510 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759515

>>2759498
elitism is exactly what makes the "shmup" community shit

that, and calling them "shmups"

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 14:44:33 No.2759515 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759716

>>2759510
Every community is shit. Just look at the FGC... yet people still play the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:13:38 No.2759569 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759606 >>2759837 >>2760564

>>2759498
Elitism is exactly why the community is ded, just not in the way you think. It's not the bantz, it's the mindset that causes developers to make every shmup conform to arcade conventions even though it's 2015 and figuratively nobody wants to play a game with autoscroll, limited lives and point scoring. Smart money would be to bring that quality they've been refining for 20 years to a new idea like a pixeljunk shooter-esque game but they're Japanese so of course getting slightly experimental means it has to go on mobile shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:26:15 No.2759606 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759569
I like those characteristics of the genre. The austistic spergs who drive off potential newcomers and brag about their scores and 1cc's are the part that annoys me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:27:17 No.2759608 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759641 >>2760421

>>2756227
>>2756221
I despise Muchi Muchi Pork's fat girl fetishism but fuck me if the gameplay isn't some of Cave's finest. I still wouldn't put the game in my top 10 because of the pig girl fetishism though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:38:04 No.2759641 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759662

>>2759608
They're not that fat fam.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:43:33 No.2759662 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759641
They're still pigs mane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 15:52:51 No.2759685 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Gunbird Special Edition won't run on my PS2SMB ;_;

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:00:10 No.2759716 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2759785

>>2759515
the FGC is far more welcoming and far less elitist than the "shmup" community lol

source: I am a member of both communities

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:25:01 No.2759785 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Dodonpachi is fun. Although I'd rather be playing DOJ that game is way above me.

>>2759716
I felt like it was the opposite, way more trashtalking in the FGC, calling out scrubs and that kinda stuff too. I feel like there are people playing shooters that would legit tear up if they saw some kids wanting to get into the genre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 16:45:47 No.2759837 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760921 >>2765534

>>2759569
>nobody wants to play a game with autoscroll, limited lives and point scoring
Why are you even here if you don't like these things? Go back to your faggy fighting games if you think the genre is so shitty.

The reason why STGs are very niche is simply because people have shit taste and are way too casual for them.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 21:45:27 No.2760421 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760427 >>2760524 >>2760570 >>2760575 >>2761519

Finally fucking learning the cartridges, Jesus Christ.

>>2756443
I just hope Mushi sells ok so we can get some more ports.
I am dreaming that they would release a new port of Ibara since the PS2 port is not very good. Not likely, but man can hope. I just love that game.

>>2759608
I know the feeling. I personally hate sort of fanservice-characters ( despite wrapping my lips around Ibara's mighty shaft earlier. That's why I have been feeling like pushed away from DFK and SDOJ. I don't understand the fascination with those sort of characters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 21:50:35 No.2760427 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760449

>>2760421
I'm not fond of fanservice laden games either. It feels patronizing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 22:09:37 No.2760449 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2760427
At this point the genre's pretty much dead outside of indie shit, and pandering to otaku scum was a last-ditch attempt to boost sales

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:05:14 No.2760524 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2760421
Holy shit, that chain drop doe. Just kidding those cartridges are really fucking brutal, stage 2-4 is brutal in general, I can't even reach it with survival strats, nice webm keep it up.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:31:13 No.2760564 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765520

>>2759569
So to save the genre you want to make it unappealing to people who actually give a shit about it right now? Fuck off. I'd rather have it stay dead in that case.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:34:55 No.2760570 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760584

>>2760421
> DFK and SDOJ.
There's no fanservice whatsoever in those games outside of bikini wallpapers and robot girls transforming into mechas.
Saidaioujou has an Xbox 360 mode that is super easy and the full of cringeworth pandering, but you shouldn't be playing that unless you understand Japanese anyway.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:39:03 No.2760575 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761427

>>2760421
This sprite right here is about as pandering as it gets. I mean, really, just overlook it as goofy Japanese stuff, it's no more ridiculous than giant robot killer bees.

Anonymous

Anonymous Sun 25 Oct 2015 23:44:05 No.2760584 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2760570

xbox 360 mode is pretty fun though, it's got a neat sort of manual rank control system that lets you balance between playing safe and high score by using your shot types as gas and brake pedals.

Also the 360 mode has multiple difficulties. The default is more or less novice, but it also includes arcade and expert which are as tough as the rest of the modes in the game.

Source: I own SDOJ (and think that if it didn't have brutal input lag on the port, it would be regarded as one of the better Cave titles).

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 07:52:28 No.2760921 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760927 >>2760983

>>2759837
>The reason why STGs are very niche is simply because people have shit taste and are way too casual for them.
Although true the community is still mostly utter shit, actually most of the decent players are cool but there's this under current of your typical fat shit at everything else nerd cunt that needs some "hardcore" hobby to obsess over and spew opinions about with an aire of arrogance to detract from the fact they are shit at everything else in life.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 08:01:43 No.2760927 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760930

>>2760921
>being this offended when someone is better at video games than zir.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 08:06:25 No.2760930 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760934 >>2761534

>>2760927
Apparently you can't read because i said the good players are actually the most helpful (mostly). It's your middle tiers and collector types that suck and also your sad man baby that gets shmup tattoos and shit, it's fucking embarrassing. All the people that are annoying as shit generally have been below my skill level not that i give a shit about it because i have other interests that get far more attention.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 08:10:33 No.2760934 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2760937

>>2760930
>Apparently you can't read
No it's just I have other interests that get far more attention

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 08:14:16 No.2760937 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2760934
Like browsing forums without exercising the most basic necessity of reading? That's quite the niche you found yourself sir. Have a game related tattoo is it friend? Please tell us more about your insecurity and identity issues.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:02:26 No.2760983 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761089 >>2761093

>>2760921
Why do you even care about the community of a single player genre? Can't you play games otherwise if you can't circle jerk about them anymore?

I think every community is mostly full of retards. Either they are dumb or arrogant. It's everywhere like this. I think shmups are a very misanthropic genre anyway, so it's no wonder that you will find many unfriendly people there.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:19:32 No.2761001 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761039

The two biggest factors which prevent me from being good at shmups are bad vision and absentmindedness.

The first one I can fix, but how do I deal with the second /stg/?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 09:54:39 No.2761039 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2761001
Meditation anon. Meditation.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:40:24 No.2761089 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761092

>>2760983
>I think shmups are a very misanthropic
Elaborate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:41:21 No.2761090 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761138

Does 1ccing a game with two loops like R-Type count as a 1cc, or do I have to 1cc both playthroughs?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:44:13 No.2761092 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2761089
Well, at least for me that's the case. It's a very introspective genre, it's mainly single player and you controll space ships instead of people mostly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:45:28 No.2761093 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761105

>>2760983
It was more an observation than anything and yeah i still play and love the genre. A nice community of reasonable human beings would be a bonus though but alas we are stuck with shmups farm and it's autistic cattle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:50:43 No.2761105 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761123

>>2761093
Introspective, sure. But calling them misanthropic is weird. We don't even kill people

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 10:59:40 No.2761123 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2761105
Well, at least for me that's the case. It's also one of the reasons why I prefer controlling space ships instead characters. Just like I prefer sci-fi shooters over WW2 shooters. I feel more connected to a space ship than to a humanoid character or realistic vehicle.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 11:14:18 No.2761138 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761230 >>2761635

>>2761090
1CCing both loops would be a 2-ALL then, right?
But does beating only the first loop still count as a 1CC then or not?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 12:19:19 No.2761230 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2761138
That's a 1 all.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 13:02:04 No.2761318 Report Delete

Quoted By:

I think I would enjoy euroshmups a lot more if they were easier to emulate.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 14:28:31 No.2761427 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2760575
One is a mechanized bee design, the other is literally a giant school girl. How could you say they're the same thing?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 15:16:48 No.2761519 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761635

>>2760421
>that stuttering
why

But good job, anyway. Post more shmup webms.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 15:22:57 No.2761534 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2760930
This happens because the genuinely good players have played a bunch of different games and have an appreciation for various types of shmups. So they can give useful advice and also don't feel insecure about what they've played so they don't mind mentioning it.

However they're far less common than the ones who have only put the time into getting good at one or two. Those people are often the assholes. The game they put time into must be the best one out there or else they wasted their time, so a lot of effort goes into talking up the one they like and shitting on anything else.

In any given group of people you'll get some who have decided to master different games and then you get into the horiz vs verts, Ikaruga is garbage/perfect and all that crap.

Various genres have this problem, fighters and roguelikes suffer from it pretty badly as well.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 16:25:44 No.2761635 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761887

>>2761519
My general recording settings are not that great, plus I think my computer's finally starting to die. Despite it, game runs smoothly during recording, though.
Which is bad since I kinda don't have money to replace it.

>>2761138
Yeah, usually people count one loop clear as 1cc, although for two-looped games, people usually consider 2-ALLing being the significant clear.
On infinitely looping shmups no one cares about later loops unless there is TLB or something.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 17:54:59 No.2761774 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2756702
xD

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 18:48:20 No.2761887 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761931

>>2761635
>Max hit 967
What the fuck? Why is your chain so low? That's what I get approximately on 1-1. Still you got a really decent/good score. How much did you get on the first loop?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:02:41 No.2761931 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2761943

>>2761887
I tend to use 2p when playing out of habit. There's bug that messes up with the max chain count for that side.

That is my older score though, can't remember specifics. It was mostly survival-orientated run ( which got me to Hibachi )
I think I could beat it if I did serious run since I have learned some chains in second loop ( safe 2-1 whole chain, half-way of 2-5 chain etc. )
Getting a half-decent run is difficult though for me.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 19:07:43 No.2761943 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2761931
For being a survival run, I must say that is a pretty amazing score. Also, I didn't know about the 2p side glitch since I don't really play on 2p side on most of my games. Is it any better or the rank keeps the same?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:26:41 No.2762070 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762125 >>2762131

Why is dodoopeepee and cave so overrated?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:57:48 No.2762120 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762123

Every now and then I fire up MAME and play some Raiden 1, Aero Fighers 1, and Insector X. Can't go wrong with classics.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 20:59:21 No.2762123 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762126

>>2762120
Raiden II works on MAME now, right?

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:00:31 No.2762125 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2762070
i think it's ok. 6/10

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:01:11 No.2762126 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762136 >>2762797

>>2762123
yup

speaking of which why does no one talk about Raiden more foten? Raiden is like the Joy Division of the STG genre

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:03:26 No.2762131 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2762070
Because you are bad at the games.

Anonymous

Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:06:00 No.2762136 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2762126
>foten
*often

Anonymous

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Anonymous Mon 26 Oct 2015 21:47:17 No.2762230 Report Delete

Quoted By:

post 'em

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 04:26:21 No.2762797 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762852

>>2762126
>Raiden
Honestly i think it's the most overated game in the genre I just find them boring as shit in every way and so many games have done that formula so much better.... take fire shark/samesamesame for example.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:32:31 No.2762852 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762853 >>2762856 >>2764512

>>2762797
Raiden used to be THE quintessential game for STG, much like how Joy Division is the quintessential band for post-punk. I'm saying "used" because Ikaruga and Touhou have since stolen that title.

Obv all these games and bands are overrated to anyone who's deep into the genre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:33:38 No.2762853 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2762852
>Ikaruga and Touhou
Also Dodonpachi.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:33:56 No.2762856 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762861

>>2762852
>Raiden used to be THE quintessential game for STG
I'm pretty sure this was only in America though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:39:49 No.2762861 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2762870

>>2762856
In my europoor country too.

Anonymous

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 05:48:47 No.2762870 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2762861
Interesting was it big in the uk as well? All i remember growing up was salamander really and then a few years later metal slug taking all the attention.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 03:38:05 No.2764482 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>tfw you go from barely making it to the stage 2 boss on one credit last night to making it to stage five on one life tonight in Strikers 1945

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:21:18 No.2764512 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764517 >>2764752

>>2762852
DoDonPachi is the modern quintessential STG. Anything Touhou related would be a satirical answer. Ikaruga is just a game that people name drop for its novelty.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:24:35 No.2764514 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764520 >>2764523 >>2764717

Anyone hype?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:28:26 No.2764517 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764512
ikurrga and 2hoes are easy low q bait to get you autists triggered and derail the thread.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:29:28 No.2764520 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764514
Didn't even know about that. Cool.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:34:38 No.2764523 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764530

>>2764514
>Xbox One
no not really

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:41:00 No.2764530 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764532 >>2765693

>>2764523
Why does Microsoft keep getting the shmups?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 04:42:55 No.2764532 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764530
Sony hates 2D. They used to force SNK and Capcom to bundle up their fighting series because they refused to publish individual games in America.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:03:25 No.2764541 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764749

>>2757474
Apidya. It's basically a bug-themed Gradius.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:06:55 No.2764545 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764546 >>2764550

>>2757474
Undertale.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:09:26 No.2764546 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764545
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 05:18:21 No.2764550 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764545
*high paw*

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:21:59 No.2764717 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764514
No, fuck xbone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:58:18 No.2764747 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764987 >>2765031

Not exactly /vr/ but what do you guys think of Blue Revolver thus far?

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:02:13 No.2764749 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765050

>>2764541

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:04:23 No.2764750 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764754

Has there ever been an STG where the ship moves at a Gain Ground-level speed (read: really really slow), has a weak and non-automatic attack, and is based heavily based around level memorization?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:07:44 No.2764752 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2764996 >>2765001

>>2764512
Actually many people think that danmaku and Cave ruined the genre.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:14:09 No.2764754 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764750
Games by Irem (R-Type, Last Resort, Pulstar, etc) are usually very slowly scrolling and based on meorization. Not sure what you mean by "weak non-automatic attack" though.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:12:21 No.2764987 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764747
It's nice, but I don't really like it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:16:23 No.2764996 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2764752
Those are hipsters.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:21:35 No.2765001 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765409

>>2764752
Those are faggots.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:44:14 No.2765031 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768312

>>2764747
You mean Revolver 360? I think it's pretty cool, but the way the camera moves looks often retarded. As if you are flying siteways the whole time...

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 13:54:05 No.2765050 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765067 >>2765159

>>2764749
They ruined it by tacking on that badly drawn story. I wanted to be a bee going on bee-based adventures in the garden of pissed off insects, not some retard anime guy trying to find some shit for his sick wife. They tried waaay to hard to Japanese the game up when they already had a great game. Still, it's mere cosmetics ontop of a fine game. Also dat godly Chris Huelsbeck soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyXo-9eKQ4U

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:05:59 No.2765067 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765050
Well to me those deviant art tier storyboards are the best part, they are so bad it's great.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 14:59:03 No.2765159 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765350

>>2765050
Who pays attention to the story in shmups? Just mash past it and get to the game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:00:56 No.2765350 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765159
This guy gets it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:44:14 No.2765409 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765419 >>2765450

>>2765001

Cave did singlehandedly spawn a bunch of homogeneous bullet hells. We definitely aren't getting games like Gradius 5 or R-Type Delta again for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:51:21 No.2765419 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765450 >>2765536 >>2765540

>>2765409
This, CAVE games all play the same.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 18:21:13 No.2765450 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765528 >>2765540

>>2765409
>>2765419

Why do people here have such a hate-boner for CAVE?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:08:11 No.2765520 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2760564
If you absolutely have to have those things you're not a shmup fan.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:19:43 No.2765528 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765450

Because CAVE carved out a huge niche among shmup fans based around elaborate scoring mechanics and technical play. As the STG market started to shrink, more traditional games got squeezed out, and bullet hell titles modeled on CAVE-style gameplay systems became the only part of the subgenre with regular releases.

If you happen to really love Psikyo style games, or cinematic horis like Einhander or R-Type, you are SOL because no one other than a few tiny developers are making them anymore.

For a shitty analogy, compare it to something like growing up playing arena style shooters such as UT or Q3, but your only options today are COD and games that play exactly like COD.

(Disclaimer: I really love CAVE games tho. Even SDOJ.)

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:23:07 No.2765532 Report Delete

Quoted By:

Mushihimesama's iOS port is free for today. It's under the title 'Bug Princess'.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:23:20 No.2765534 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2759837
Why am I here? Why are you here bro you wouldn't play a shmup without getting to write your initials next to a number so just skip the middle man and go to the initial writing general.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:23:43 No.2765536 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765546

>>2765419
Do people hate id Tech, Build engine and Goldsource games for all playing the same?

Just a matter of perspective.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:25:29 No.2765540 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765542 >>2765546 >>2765613

>>2765419
>CAVE games all play the same.
Only extremely low level players would ever think this to be true. How in the fuck can you suggest dangun plays anything like progear or guwange like mushi futari? it's beyond stupid.

>>2765450
>Why do people here have such a hate-boner for CAVE?
It's just the shit players and old cunts who hate the fact that cave games stomp their shit mean whilst those of us that really love and actually play these games manage to appreciate every style within the genre old and new.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:27:35 No.2765542 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765598

>>2765540
Dangun Feveron was CAVE when they were still trying new things /memexac

>>2765540
I double dog dare you to appreciate checkpoints.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 19:29:22 No.2765546 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765536
>>2765540
you guys will argue over anything

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:00:53 No.2765598 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765542
>I double dog dare you to appreciate checkpoints.
Well before Ketsui I was a Gradius fanatic and never had a problem with checkpoints tbh.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:07:09 No.2765613 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765629 >>2765630 >>2765702

>>2765540

R-Type stomps my shit but I love it because it's not the same tired concept of raining down spirals of bullets on you in place of proper level design. It's not so much that CAVE or bullet hell games are bad, but such games are too overabundant nowadays, making shmups seem more stagnant than ever.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:23:05 No.2765629 Report Delete

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>>2765613
So what else is new? Every single thread you post the same opinion

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:24:07 No.2765630 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765653 >>2765685

>>2765613
Next you will whine about how the hitboxes on ddp being too small is "unrealistic"

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:40:40 No.2765653 Report Delete

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>>2765630
Now I want a shmup where you play as Diamond Dallas Page.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:58:29 No.2765683 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765696 >>2766292

I got 1ALL on ketsui, yay. I haven't played this for a while.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 20:59:31 No.2765685 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765691

>>2765630
Butthurt defensive faggot now you're making up complaints to complain about. Go tate yourself.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:01:57 No.2765691 Report Delete

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>>2765685
Y'all nigga I'm yoko orientation because I only paly horis, now fuck off.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:02:28 No.2765693 Report Delete

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>>2764530
For Xbox 360, it's because Sony initially told arcade ports to fuck right off. It wasn't until much later when Sony changed their mind, and got Raiden IV Overkill and other STG (barely any). I'd like to think Raiden V is on Xbox One because of how well Xbox 360 did with STG.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:03:12 No.2765696 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765703

>>2765683
Noice. Did you get the Ura loop?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:08:28 No.2765702 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765705 >>2765710 >>2765719

>>2765613
But those bullets are a part of proper level design. You think they just randomly throw all those bullets on screen hoping to god that it will work instead of carefully planning on the placement of them in order to ensure that it is in fact possible to make it through alive without dying? There's also shit like scoring systems which heavily play into things like enemy and item placements, you may not be dealing with as many environmental hazards as games like R-Type but to claim that there's no proper level design is fucking insane.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:08:37 No.2765703 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765717

>>2765696
Look at my lifes and bombs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:12:23 No.2765705 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765702
>You think they just randomly throw all those bullets on screen hoping to god that it will work instead of carefully planning on the placement of them in order to ensure that it is in fact possible to make it through alive without dying?
I know for a fact they do which is why smartbombs are so prevalent in bullet hell. You hate it when it's a euroshmup and it's a healthbar letting you live through impossible bullet barf but it's OK when CAVE does it!

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:14:01 No.2765710 Report Delete

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>>2765702
Enemy and bullet design are not level design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:16:14 No.2765717 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765728

>>2765703
Yep, I'm a retardt.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:17:16 No.2765719 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765721

>>2765702
Don't waste your time, dude, just trolls be trolling.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:19:05 No.2765721 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765731

>>2765719
>us shmup guys who know that bullets = level design gotta watch out for those trolls with dissenting opinions

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:20:25 No.2765728 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765769

>>2765717
Not your fault, I can't even unlock Omote. I don't even know how to use bombs until I get to evaccaneer.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:20:51 No.2765731 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765735 >>2765736

>>2765721
>things in the level that heavily influence how the player goes through it are not a part of level design

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:23:17 No.2765735 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765731

Those slaughter maps in Doom must be the pinnacle of level design now.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:23:19 No.2765736 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765754 >>2765758

>>2765731
>a part

So your games have one part of level design. Hence the preference some people have for games with all the parts of level design.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:36:58 No.2765754 Report Delete

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>>2765736
let's be honest nobody normal prefers any of this autismal crap. if you're playing shmups -oh I'm sorry STGs- if you're playing STDs it's a clear sign you must have been severely abused as a kid

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:38:38 No.2765758 Report Delete

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>>2765736
They have the level hazards except they forgot about the decent enemy design, decent pacing and bosses that aren't garbage.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:42:56 No.2765769 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765780

>>2765728
Hey while googling URA Loop I just found out there are alternate boss routes in Ketsui.

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:48:02 No.2765778 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765783

>2765769
>alternate boss routes in Ketsui
What do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:49:02 No.2765780 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765783

>>2765769
>alternate boss routes in Ketsui.
What do you mean?

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:50:56 No.2765783 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765791

>>2765780
>>2765778
Nevermind, I was actually reading a daifukkatsu dlc thread.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:54:54 No.2765791 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2765795

>>2765783

Anonymous

Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 21:57:23 No.2765795 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2765791
kek

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:15:10 No.2766270 Report Delete

Quoted By:

This thread inspired me to finally check out Layer Section and I'm a fan.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 03:45:12 No.2766292 Report Delete

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>>2765683
Good work man, i got to the 2-3 boss last night (omote) that guy is a colossal douche for the tiger. Always force yourself in the first loop to use no bombs it'l make you learn the game much better and if you are going long term will become the norm plus essential for accessing ura aswell as training you to make omote regularly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:37:16 No.2767353 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767361 >>2767367 >>2767374

Why don't you have a youtube channel with all your 1ccs and 2-ALLs yet?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:42:25 No.2767361 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767370

>>2767353
Because I believe it's not worth it for others to watch my replays. Also I'm not that much of a great player.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:45:19 No.2767367 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2767353
>Why don't you have a youtube channel with all your 1ccs and 2-ALLs yet?
My pc is to ass to record and render good enough, i have a folder of inps though. That said i'd never upload 1ccs just for the sake of it unless they're decent scoring runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:45:55 No.2767370 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767496

>>2767361
It doesn't have to be the best clear. I always enjoy watching decent clears from the games I like. It's interesting to see other peoples playstyles.

I think making own vids also could encourage you to play better and more often.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:46:27 No.2767374 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767376 >>2767391

>>2767353
Watching full runs of other people play shmups would be boring. If you do something crazy and want to show that part sure, but not the whole thing.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:48:06 No.2767376 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767381 >>2767391

>>2767374
What?! Do you never watch playthroughs from other people? I do this all the time with shmups.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:51:34 No.2767381 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2767376
Maybe boring isn't the right word.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:57:25 No.2767391 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767395 >>2767405

>>2767374
Anybody with any real interest in these games watches runs. Good luck developing strategies and improving without them.

>>2767376
>What?! Do you never watch playthroughs from other people? I do this all the time with shmups.
I do to espeically runs like hfds daioujou wr, sps live performance of ketsui and Kamuis garegga runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 19:59:01 No.2767395 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767412 >>2768149

>>2767391

might as well not play at all, just watch

it's like playing a puzzle game with the solution on a guide

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:05:08 No.2767405 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767418 >>2768152

>>2767391
Yeah but there's watching the part you want to steal a strategy from and then there's sitting down and watching 45 minutes of shmupping.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:07:11 No.2767412 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768152

>>2767395
You also can watch replays without using them as guides.
I constantly watch replays but don't really use them as guides. I just watch them for fun and then mostly also forget about them again.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:09:12 No.2767418 Report Delete

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>>2767405
What's wrong with watching 45 minutes of shmupping? If there are any playthroughs worth watching then it's good shmup runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 20:59:31 No.2767496 Report Delete

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>>2767370
I would love to upload some shit, but I don't have equipment to do it so.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:42:37 No.2767879 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2767918

http://steamcommunity.com/app/377860/discussions/0/490123938435235238/#c496879865898549538

Mushihimesama will be $20.
Ver1.5 will be $5.
The OST will be $5.

There will be a launch week discount of 25% on both the base game and Ver1.5; in addition, the OST will be free with the base game during that period.

(That's $18.75, for those of you too lazy to do the math)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 01:59:08 No.2767918 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2767879
Not retro.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:48:34 No.2768149 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2767395
>might as well not play at all, just watch
>it's like playing a puzzle game with the solution on a guide
This is exactly the opinion you expect from someone who just doesn't have a clue or doesn't have enough play experience. You can watch any top player until you are blue in the face now go and try mimicing what you see and you'l find you can't do shit as the execution and play time experience of those guys is so high, runs give you ideas and then you can start adapting parts of those strategies into your own more manageable versions, even at the top level everyone does things a little bit differently. You're forgetting about the skill it takes to play these games and it's like saying watching someone else beat larsa in futari ultra iis the same as beating her yourself or even further telling an aspiring gymnast they might aswell just watch as what they're doing has already been done. Personal achievement is the other aspect you are missing out on massively, it feels great to get that personal best run no matter how that fares against others as you are testing yourself and what you can do but hey if you wanna spend your life always being a spectator then go for it.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 05:51:47 No.2768152 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2767405
>>2767412
I watch Kamuis garegga runs with no intention of copying anything but just to be in awe of how far someone has managed to push the strats and technique in that game, its crazy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 06:28:01 No.2768176 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768232 >>2768234

Guy with a YT channel here, I've actually thought about starting up a channel for other people. I have the equipment and the time to make videos so why not do it for other people? Anyone interested?

Though it goes without saying that I won't be uploading every little thing you do. Preferably just cool stuff like 2-ALLs, lunatic 1ccs and high-scoring runs.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 08:03:35 No.2768232 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768325

>>2768176
It's a good idea that i'd defo bare in mind assuming you're happy to take inps?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 08:04:18 No.2768234 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768325

>>2768176
Give me two years to actually get a decent 2ALL on any game.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 10:02:55 No.2768312 Report Delete

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>>2765031
No but that is a cool game.

I meant this one: http://woofycakes.itch.io/blue-revolver-v05

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 10:18:58 No.2768325 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768452 >>2768661

>>2768232
Yeah, I can't think of any other way but to record .inp and .rpy files.

>>2768234
It doesn't have to be a 2-ALL, just put a big amount of effort into your run and the end result should be worth uploading.

Now I have to think of a channel name, but I suck at naming things.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:13:14 No.2768452 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768465

>>2768325
What if I want to upload a ketsui run, what would your standard? Do you mind about scoring or what would you keep in mind for uploading replays?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:21:24 No.2768463 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768542 >>2768690 >>2768782

Any good shoot em up games for NES?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 12:21:46 No.2768465 Report Delete

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>>2768452
In the case of Ketsui I would say have a 100m score at minimum and it has to at least be a 1-ALL. In most cases having a certain score and 1cc is appreciated.

Exceptions can still be made if the run is really good, like getting 150m+ while game-overing on 1-5, I think that'd still be worth uploading.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 13:17:21 No.2768542 Report Delete

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>>2768463
Gradius 1 (not 2)

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:18:11 No.2768661 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768668

>>2768325
What about /vr/'s STG? Lol I know is bad but whatever, I'm really suck at names as well.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:19:35 No.2768668 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768674

>>2768661
don't associate with this place, you'll just get accused of shilling

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:22:48 No.2768674 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768687

>>2768668
What about "STGeneral"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:27:44 No.2768680 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768681 >>2768694

What about "try hard channel"?

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:28:21 No.2768681 Report Delete

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>>2768680
Perfect.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:31:41 No.2768687 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>2768694

You guys are too slow, I already created an account:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp2e9X5tR9BLdSlIGjzftDA

>>2768674
I like this one but it's too late already!

Anyways, send me shit: [email protected]

You can either upload an .inp or .rpy to an online whatever or you can send me the file as an attachment.

Tell me:
Game name, rom name, MAME version
What the YT description should be, what the tags should be and other cool stuff like that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:34:40 No.2768690 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2768463

Star Force

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 14:35:29 No.2768694 Report Delete

Quoted By:

>>2768680
Never thought about this, it's just so suitable.

>>2768687
Anyways I believe you can change the youtube channel name, also get a background. I'll see if I can record something good whenever I have time.

Anonymous

Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 15:47:40 No.2768782 Report Delete

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>>2768463
(Summer Carnival '92) Recca
Crisis Force
LifeForce

Anonymous

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Anonymous Fri 30 Oct 2015 16:23:11 No.2768824 Report Delete

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Man, still haven't found a shmup more fun than Batrider. I miss Raizing.

Also, OP of the past STGenerals here, haven't been using 4chan much anymore, my apologies.

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