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Babalon and Chronozon

Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 08:07:54 No.16896147 View Reply Report Delete

Quoted By: >>16896325 >>16899703 >>16902067 >>16902235 >>16902331

Is it possible to have a discussion about this?

I had only read Jack Parson's stuff before and came upon some of Crowley's last night. How are the two of them and the writings commonly interpreted by OTO people?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:57:08 No.16896316 Report Delete

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Who?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 09:59:33 No.16896325 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>16896367 >>16902235

>>16896147
Babalon is a goddess. Choronzon is the Thelemic equivalent to the devil, but not exactly the same.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:22:41 No.16896367 Report Delete

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>>16896325
Whats the difference between Choronzon and the classic devil?

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 10:46:45 No.16896401 Report Delete

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>>16896367
Chronzon is a bit more of a sinister figure rather a tester and trickster.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:12:12 No.16898609 Report Delete

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>>16896367
Chronozon guards the gateway to the abyss or Daath. The classic devil term in my opinion hiders one from understanding what Set/Satan can be and is/is not. As for the Scarlet lady though OP I find her very interesting especially in her phase as Nuit. Whats pretty wild is Nuit is very similar to the norse giantess Gulliveg, and Kali. though Kali and Gulliveg are culturally different. If the abyss is the gate way to the underworld the the norse Goddess Hella is also synonymous with Daath. Seeing as she is the daughter of Gulliveg ( in the aspect of Angrboda) and Loki, cast from the heavens by the Asier and placed in the abyss. Her realm is also guarded by a spirit named Garm who would be similar to chronozon.

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:14:12 No.16898621 Report Delete

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>>16898609
edit ( gulliveg could be similar to Binah, and Loki to chokma thus their daughter hlla would be daath

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Anonymous Tue 27 Oct 2015 22:18:19 No.16898642 Report Delete

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>>16898609
Interesting. So also Annwn and Gwyn ap Nudd would be comparisons too.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:23:57 No.16899703 Report Delete

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>>16896147
> she learned a tragic lesson that day: even the purest can be corrupted when the heart's emotions are twisted.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 01:36:59 No.16899768 Report Delete

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I found an astral palace in babylon. It was made of marble and had ivory carvings of mythological creatures and beings. Perhaps the prettiest architecture I have ever laid eyes upon.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 07:17:36 No.16900937 Report Delete

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remove choronzon

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:01:33 No.16900997 Report Delete

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333

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:09:57 No.16901007 Report Delete

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ITT: Lies and roleplay

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:24:53 No.16901025 Report Delete

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>>16901007
> crowley was roleplaying
well yeah

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:30:01 No.16901030 Report Delete

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is this her number?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:30:17 No.16901031 Report Delete

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>>16901007
It's not even the fun kind. It's the kind that really just doesn't live up to the name "roleplay" at all.

Just to be sure, what isn't roleplay to you?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:36:16 No.16901039 Report Delete

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>>16901031

When I see results that are observable

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:37:49 No.16901040 Report Delete

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>>16901039
Are you an atheist then?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:41:19 No.16901044 Report Delete

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>>16901040

No

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:43:23 No.16901045 Report Delete

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>>16901044
Well that's interesting, but I don't know how you can believe in anything. You just said you have to observe results, but that would make you an atheist. Have you seen results from belief in a god or gods?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:44:44 No.16901046 Report Delete

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>>16901045
>Have you seen results

Yes.

No point in arguing as I am not a miracle enabled boy or a wizard.

I've seen sexual things that are impossible.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:47:04 No.16901049 Report Delete

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>>16901046
You're honest, which is good. Though I think you dismiss people's experiences too easily. Try to avoid doing that, but while keeping your wits about you. Believe nothing, but don't reject anything out of hand. I've seen some cool occult shit.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 08:48:15 No.16901051 Report Delete

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>>16901046
> all this roleplaying
> complains about others roleplaying

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 09:54:09 No.16901147 Report Delete

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>>16901051

And this is why there's no point in arguing and the reason why I don't make threads, so as to not be accused of falsehoods.

You can't prove it then shut the trap

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 10:33:31 No.16901212 Report Delete

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>>16901045
I belive in science.
God is there for those who look for him.

The universe is a neural network.
There is information runing on the background of reality.
Whe change the quantum world only whit our attention.

thoose were the proofs I found to teach me that God exist, search for yours and you will found it, even in a cookbook if you know what are you searching for.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 11:41:34 No.16901368 Report Delete

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How in the world is this role play? We are discussing concepts and deities here. For fuck sake it's not like OP made a AMA thread claiming to be either one of them. He even said the word discussion in his post. The only role player here is the roll of shit poster

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:11:06 No.16901436 Report Delete

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>>16901368
You and I feel the same way then. That's good. I hate it when people throw the words "role play" and "roleplayer" without any real reason to. It's like they just want to stifle free expression of ideas or discussion of them. No clue why, but that's just how it seems.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 12:19:28 No.16901453 Report Delete

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>>16901436
They call stuff they don't want here roleplay to try and get it removed, yet insist this board should be nothing but creepy pasta, which is roleplay if anything is.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 15:26:59 No.16901910 Report Delete

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>>16901453
>which is roleplay if anything is.
Or maybe not, but whatever.

Which of the two did Crowley revere more?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:12:08 No.16902066 Report Delete

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>>16901910
Of Babalon and chronozon ? I would say Babalon due to the sheer amount of ritual devised around her. Also since she is an aspect of nuit she's pretty much supreme. I'll be completely honest I'm more of a Kennith Grant fan and slowly wading my way through night side of Eden, so I'm not sure. However seeing as chronozon is the gatekeeper of the abyss its function is incredibly important also.

Reality

Reality Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:12:51 No.16902067 Report Delete

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>>16896147
They are commonly interpreted as doesn't real.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:19:03 No.16902097 Report Delete

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>>16902066
>However seeing as chronozon is the gatekeeper of the abyss its function is incredibly important also.
Think i read something in Parsons' stuff about there being a choice between them for that role. Parsons seemed to be going with Babalon.

Or i could have that wrong.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:19:06 No.16902098 Report Delete

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>>16901453
For real. A majority of the time it's people with little to know knowledge on the subject who dismiss it because they can't wrap their heads around the material. It's one thing to have knowledge of the subject and say some ones wrong, then you can have a discussion. It's total /b/ tier to go hue hue you faggots are roleplaying!!! utterly out of context. My favorite is when they follow up with "I believe in science" like that's the be all end all I can look down my nose at you now answer.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:23:05 No.16902117 Report Delete

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>>16902067
Lol so the darkness of space that birthed the cosmos isn't real ? The unconscious mind isn't real ? Your feelings of lust and female menstration aren't real ? If you are referring to the more acosmic aspects of these things where percoevable reality is an illusion then you are slightly correct. But I highly doubt that's what you meant seeing as you don't understand the depth of these symbols.

Reality

Reality Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:24:46 No.16902125 Report Delete

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>>16902117
>Commonly interpreted.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:28:57 No.16902139 Report Delete

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>>16902125
So you don't have an argument ?your just spouting what the masses who don't understand what these things represent say? Good for you.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:33:22 No.16902159 Report Delete

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>>16902097
That's my favorite aspect about nuit, daath, babalon, and chronozon. You know those Jedi hendrix posters where it's him with all those other aspects branching off from his body,like Krishna from the Bahamas Gita ? That's how I'd imagine them to be. Different..but same same.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:33:45 No.16902161 Report Delete

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>>16901910
I don't think he reveres choronzon exactly, it's more of a powerful spooky trickster demon that makes it harder to pass the abyss

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:34:34 No.16902164 Report Delete

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>>16902159
Lol Bahamas. Bagavad Gita * damn auto correct.

Reality

Reality Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:37:25 No.16902177 Report Delete

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>>16902139
And in 2010 on /x/, crowley was a hack and that one sigil chart everyone called fake and gay was toootally legit guise. Just like how succubus threads turned into tulpa threads. Sorry mang, give it another few years and you'll be the crazy one among crazy ones again.

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:42:23 No.16902203 Report Delete

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>>16902177
Except Crowley has been around since the beginning the 20th century. The Sigil chart your referring to I can only guess is the goetic demons. Yeah that's been around for a very long time, with a thousand plus years of ceremonial tradition. I don't give a shit about its relevancy to /x/ because a majority of the time it's the blind leading the blind.people can't even successfully create an imaginary friend here.So once again your displaying your lack of knowledge on the subject. Wanna pass me that rock again so I can slam dunk on your ass or are you done ?

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Reality Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:43:42 No.16902206 Report Delete

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>>16902203
yeah hang on, it's in the other thread.
>>16901098

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:47:25 No.16902221 Report Delete

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>>16902206
Your coming at me with crystals? Crystals. We are here discussing aspects of the unconciousmind and your bringing carbon rocks to the table.

Reality

Reality Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:49:22 No.16902224 Report Delete

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>>16902221
You asked for a rock, and I am literally here to be sarcastic and give obvious answers. I don't know what you were expecting. It was either that or start a crystals thread with a picture of The Rock. Seriously, how do you not catch on to this?

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:50:58 No.16902227 Report Delete

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>>16902224
LOL alright alright that was pretty funny

The Ape of !Th0tH..7io

The Ape of !Th0tH..7io Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:53:11 No.16902235 Report Delete

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>>16896147
Generally speaking, though this isn't a rule of totality, people recognize that something was off about Parsons' ritual structure, at least while he was working with Hubbard. I've rarely if ever encountered anyone in the OTO that bought Parsons' transmissions without question.

>>16896325
I get more connotations of Leviathan and Abrasax out of Choronzon than Satan.

>>16901030
156

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 16:55:56 No.16902243 Report Delete

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>>16902235
Only trip I've ever appreciated

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:02:53 No.16902258 Report Delete

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>>16902243
Absolutely

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:29:54 No.16902331 Report Delete

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>>16896147
Act of treason turns games

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Anonymous Wed 28 Oct 2015 17:40:27 No.16902352 Report Delete

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>>16899703
>>16902331
It just came up on an image search for Babalon and i grabbed it. All the associations are interesting.

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