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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:35:37 No.16905013 View Reply Report Delete

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If God exist, why do certain people suffer and others don't?

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:36:36 No.16905015 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Everyone suffers

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:37:54 No.16905018 Report Delete

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because he created us on a mortal plane

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 05:39:40 No.16905022 Report Delete

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_%28Calvinism%29

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:13:46 No.16905083 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Because God doesn't care? Who's to say that God should care about his creation? We don't know anything about God, for all we know, if God truly is good, God might be doing what's good, even if it means that some of us suffer for it. But we wouldn't possibly be able to understand his motives for doing so.

Discussing God is like a group of ants trying to understand humans. It just isn't going to happen, is it. Ants couldn't even begin to comprehend what language is, or what clothes are, let alone try to understand the complexities of our minds. Hell, even us humans have no idea what's going on up there. This is why discussing God is stupid, we're ants, probably even less than that, compared to Him.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:21:29 No.16905096 Report Delete

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>>16905083
Assuming there is a god, implying that such a contrived concept manufactured by mankind is valid. "God" is incredibly vague and not real.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:21:29 No.16905097 Report Delete

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>>16905083
>We don't know anything about God
then what's the purpose in claiming that god exists

>Discussing God is like a group of ants trying to understand humans. It just isn't going to happen
with that attitude you might as well be an atheist

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:22:31 No.16905099 Report Delete

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>>16905097
This

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:22:53 No.16905100 Report Delete

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>>16905096
what

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:27:56 No.16905110 Report Delete

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>>16905097
Tell me then, for certain, what do you know about God

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:29:26 No.16905113 Report Delete

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>>16905110
don't know anything about god
I don't even knowwhat you are referring to when you say "god"

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:34:05 No.16905125 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Go away and think about your question.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 06:34:35 No.16905128 Report Delete

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>>16905083
This. I totally believe in God and his Son. Why? I follow these beliefs because I know that the benefit of being a believer through lifestyle choices and afterlife scenario is the best case. It brings brotherhood to communities and pushes many out of their comfort zones in order to benefit their neighbors. Being a Christian is one of the best things I have ever assumed the role of. Edge lords, spare me the flame.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:12:58 No.16905177 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Epistemic distance

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:21:56 No.16905192 Report Delete

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Dumbest question I've heard all week. We were given free will. And with that cause limited interference. Because if we were correct everytime we made a bad decision it obviously wouldn't be free will wed just listen to what we are told. But instead we are given the chance to prove ourselves. Unfortunately there's many out there that impede this goal.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 07:32:48 No.16905204 Report Delete

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>>16905192

IMPEDE... OR TEST YOU? ABOOGABOOGA

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:26:39 No.16905275 Report Delete

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I'm seriously thinking God is very unjust

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:31:44 No.16905287 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Because God doesn't give a shit, he created this world to fuck jewish bitches, and he got bored of that 2000 years ago.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:32:52 No.16905289 Report Delete

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>>16905275

fuckin white people think everything is unfair

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:34:48 No.16905294 Report Delete

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>>16905289

You don't know shit.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:37:11 No.16905299 Report Delete

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>>16905289

And when you don't know shit, you don't know shit for real.

I've seen murderers, torturers and swindlers go unpunished, and attempts at doing what is right go punished because "oh, you got my name wrong".

VERY unjust

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:37:21 No.16905300 Report Delete

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>>16905294

It sounds like your life is hard as fuck anon sit down and tell me about it

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:38:22 No.16905301 Report Delete

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>>16905299

Let's RP an RP about hard boiled detectives

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 08:42:29 No.16905307 Report Delete

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>>16905301

Nah, not in the mood, I was talking about shit I've seen from a religious perspective actually, you know, I kind of wanted to play rpgs sometime ago, but man, the few friends I still have don't want to have anything to do with it.

Besides, detectives suck, unless cthulhu is involved.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:08:49 No.16905346 Report Delete

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>>16905096
Humanity and everything in existence has incredible design that a humans couldn't even replicate, guy says God is incredibly vague and not real, lol. Oh that's right, we evolved from a turd sitting in a puddle of water with the correct amount of sunlight, and just spontaneously developed a complex nervous system, immune system, and self awareness.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:10:18 No.16905347 Report Delete

Quoted By: >>16905378 >>16905532 >>16905689

because other people make people suffer. stop blaming god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:28:15 No.16905378 Report Delete

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>>16905347

This.

Also life and morals and existance is more complicated than just black and white.
There cant be any light without dark, everything between is up to us and that each indvidual desire and cherish. And there is also constant battle of people trying to reach closer to light and people draging other people down to the dark. There is not only one solution to all problems. What you can do yourself is to embrace the light within you and choose yourself to the side of goodness. People in the dark side gets plesure from revenge and inflicting pain on others, but they will never find happiness and salvation as long as you are stuck in the dark. Also the human is very complicated and can sense all type of emotion good and bad. But it is your choices that matters knowing what is the right choose and bad choose.

Reality

Reality Thu 29 Oct 2015 09:41:33 No.16905412 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Because a lot of us bring it on ourselves. I personally couldn't care less if God is real or not, but random chance and people being twats are the sources of most of the suffering in the world in my opinion.

Anonymous

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Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:37:35 No.16905524 Report Delete

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Everything has it's Rhythm(day and night, the cycle of seasons, the rise and fall of civilizations and even your mental states) it will be your choice if you want to suffer, it just shows how little mastery you have with your own mind. With regards to God/Creator, it really bothers me how we're all brainwashed to think of him as a wish granting genie/superhero and give him human characteristics/standards, he already gave us a conscious mind and this beautiful world, it is up to us how to use it effectively. God is not equal to religion, the latter is man made, I can see that the idea behind it is quite good but most of the time the humans behind it can be selfish greedy bastards. Oh well...

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:42:27 No.16905532 Report Delete

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>>16905347
so "other people" make deformed children who live lives of pain until they die because their tiny bodies can't handle the stress? and the million other sources of suffering that people have no control over one way or the other? i guess a little bit of cognitive dissonance is necessary if you believe in an all-knowing and loving god.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 10:44:52 No.16905537 Report Delete

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>>16905532
God doesn't exist anymore as a whole, he is all of us. Everything. We choose to make our own mistakes, make ourselves suffer, and make other people suffer.

Not everything is perfect, and God wanted us to see that.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:00:32 No.16905573 Report Delete

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>>16905289
>dindus never stop bitching about things being "unfair"
>then bitch that others think things are unfair

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 11:47:21 No.16905689 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Assuming that a creator (AKA god) exists:
>God is created the universe/Earth/humans but is a rather selfish and sadist asshole and enjoys watching people suffering. We not so distant to be able to do so with a machine ourselves, so it not so crazy to think that.
>God created the universe/Earth/humans, but he doesn't care/he lost interest and moved on. Maybe he simple creates stuff for fun or because that is his purpose.
>Again, God created the universe, but the Earth and humans were just a collateral effect, he didn't wanted to create us or he doesn't care.

>>16905347
>>16905378
If he created it that way specifically, then God is a sadist fuck. He could make everyone happy without need of strive, and since he is God, that would be OK, no need for suffering and stress.

If he needs suffering to make things more interesting, he's an asshole.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:01:28 No.16905718 Report Delete

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>>16905378
>right choose and bad choose.
lol'd

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:07:25 No.16905739 Report Delete

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>>16905013
Because God acts in mysterious ways.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:08:46 No.16905743 Report Delete

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>>16905537
>We choose to make our own mistakes, make ourselves suffer, and make other people suffer.
again, i repeat, a child who is born with painful or deadly defects is not doing any of those things you suggest. unless you suggest that a baby should be able to transcend physical pain in a spiritual way.

>Not everything is perfect, and God wanted us to see that.
so you're saying these babies who are born in pain, suffer, and die are put here as a lesson to you? well good for you but you're discounting the suffering of another of god's creatures. why does that child have to suffer to teach you a lesson? you've ignored the question from OP.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:22:18 No.16905778 Report Delete

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life isn't fair. no much how it should be. people die everyday over nothing. so cover your butts.and try to be happy.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:27:34 No.16905797 Report Delete

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>>16905778
and try to help someone.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 12:43:04 No.16905840 Report Delete

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>>16905013
next time when you ask theology 101 question, ask google instead, so you actually get a correct answer in less than 10 seconds instead of wasting your time speaking with fedora tippers or or uneducated folk on /x/

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[email protected] !onkND1ru3. Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:10:26 No.16905919 Report Delete

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>>16905013
because reincarnation is also real, and the suffering and good we can do in the world is gods way of letting us make up for our past mistakes and/or achieve higher ability

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:15:04 No.16905930 Report Delete

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>>16905840
>get a correct answer
if you think there's a "correct answer" to questions like this that you can find with a 10 second google search, you are unbelievably silly.

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:16:12 No.16905932 Report Delete

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>>16905930
whatever champ

Anonymous

Anonymous Thu 29 Oct 2015 13:26:08 No.16905962 Report Delete

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>>16905013
why do you ask that question?

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